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September 16, 2014, 09:57:21 AM |
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I just spoke with GJ, it's not an attack. Apparently the algo that calculates the nethash is finally recognizing the hash a lot better lol. This is mostly Clevermining, but contact was made with the multipool and they've agreed to slow down the NLG mining until Digishield has been implemented. So no worries, as GJ said to me.
Are we able to confirm where the spike in hash rate came from now? Digishield will need to be implemented ASAP, I think the coin has gotten a lot more attention this last week and you will find other multipools have joined the party besides Clevermining. It's good the devs recognised the need for this change and working on a solution but if this same spike has to occur each time difficulty drops then digishield will need to be implemented within the next few days. The next block resolve could be as much as 15 hours by my estimations. Also Doge and Litecoin have now got merge mining making multipools switch to other scrypt coins more aggressively.
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veertje
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September 16, 2014, 10:52:12 AM |
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Also Doge and Litecoin have now got merge mining making multipools switch to other scrypt coins more aggressively.
How does this work?
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September 16, 2014, 11:32:32 AM |
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I just spoke with GJ, it's not an attack. Apparently the algo that calculates the nethash is finally recognizing the hash a lot better lol. This is mostly Clevermining, but contact was made with the multipool and they've agreed to slow down the NLG mining until Digishield has been implemented. So no worries, as GJ said to me.
Are we able to confirm where the spike in hash rate came from now? Digishield will need to be implemented ASAP, I think the coin has gotten a lot more attention this last week and you will find other multipools have joined the party besides Clevermining. It's good the devs recognised the need for this change and working on a solution but if this same spike has to occur each time difficulty drops then digishield will need to be implemented within the next few days. The next block resolve could be as much as 15 hours by my estimations.Also Doge and Litecoin have now got merge mining making multipools switch to other scrypt coins more aggressively. I think the team will need to put all there resources into getting this update completed and postpone any other projects they actively working on. The coin will lose miners this way and block resolves might even take 1 week if left like this for another month, lets hope this major spike was a once off.
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September 16, 2014, 11:53:24 AM |
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This is a multipool, just calm down and let's not rush things. Sure this isn't ideal right now, but it's a phase we have to go through. Best thing to do is ride out the wave and add hashes anywhere we can to stabilize the network. Do not panic. GJ and other programmers are looking into what's best to implement and remember, Guldencoin is built for the long-term. So we have to overcome these short-term profit takers as well. Yes this sucks for now, let's get through this. And don't forget to sign and help your friends and family sign the petition to get Guldencoin on Coinbase http://guldenpetitie.nl
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September 16, 2014, 11:55:51 AM |
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This is a multipool, just calm down and let's not rush things. Sure this isn't ideal right now, but it's a phase we have to go through. Best thing to do is ride out the wave and add hashes anywhere we can to stabilize the network. Do not panic. GJ and other programmers are looking into what's best to implement and remember, Guldencoin is built for the long-term. So we have to overcome these short-term profit takers as well. Yes this sucks for now, let's get through this. And don't forget to sign and help your friends and family sign the petition to get Guldencoin on Coinbase http://guldenpetitie.nl You are correct, I am just saying all resources must be put on this and go with the best solution for the coin. I will sign the petition now.
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September 16, 2014, 12:01:21 PM |
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Why not block multipools? And only mine for the one intrested in the coin not the make a quick few bucks? This is where most coins collapse.
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September 16, 2014, 12:09:33 PM |
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Why not block multipools? And only mine for the one intrested in the coin not the make a quick few bucks? This is where most coins collapse.
This must be done as matter of urgency, if multipool complain you tell them you will unblock IPs when digishield implemented and explain what happen now, if miners want to mine this coin they must use normal pool in OP list. Pools in OP list care for coin not these profit taking pools that don't give a shit.
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September 16, 2014, 12:10:52 PM |
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I just spoke with GJ, it's not an attack. Apparently the algo that calculates the nethash is finally recognizing the hash a lot better lol. This is mostly Clevermining, but contact was made with the multipool and they've agreed to slow down the NLG mining until Digishield has been implemented. So no worries, as GJ said to me.
Are we able to confirm where the spike in hash rate came from now? Digishield will need to be implemented ASAP, I think the coin has gotten a lot more attention this last week and you will find other multipools have joined the party besides Clevermining. It's good the devs recognised the need for this change and working on a solution but if this same spike has to occur each time difficulty drops then digishield will need to be implemented within the next few days. The next block resolve could be as much as 15 hours by my estimations. Also Doge and Litecoin have now got merge mining making multipools switch to other scrypt coins more aggressively. Your calculations are wrong, it might be over 30 hours for next block to resolve unless we get very lucky!
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September 16, 2014, 12:14:04 PM |
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Why not block multipools? And only mine for the one intrested in the coin not the make a quick few bucks? This is where most coins collapse.
This must be done as matter of urgency, if multipool complain you tell them you will unblock IPs when digishield implemented and explain what happen now, if miners want to mine this coin they must use normal pool in OP list. Pools in OP list care for coin not these profit taking pools that don't give a shit. Banning a multipool with this much power will surely result in DDOS somewhere else or a bypass on the IP-ban and therefor bad blood.
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September 16, 2014, 12:14:40 PM |
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Why not block multipools? And only mine for the one intrested in the coin not the make a quick few bucks? This is where most coins collapse.
This must be done as matter of urgency, if multipool complain you tell them you will unblock IPs when digishield implemented and explain what happen now, if miners want to mine this coin they must use normal pool in OP list. Pools in OP list care for coin not these profit taking pools that don't give a shit. Yes thats exactly what i ment with blocking multipools. If you let multipool mine NLG this coin aint worth shit after a while. Look what happends with all the other coins. Make a selection off pools that mine for the coin and not for the quick bucks? If you don't block the multipools the pump and dump will start shortly..
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September 16, 2014, 12:18:43 PM |
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Hit these people in their wallets and they will surely fight back. Don't forget that.
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September 16, 2014, 12:19:31 PM |
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Hit these people in their wallets and they will surely fight back. Don't forget that.
Better fight for the community other then the people who's pockets get filled behind all peoples back..
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KenChanYu
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September 16, 2014, 12:20:54 PM |
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Why not block multipools? And only mine for the one intrested in the coin not the make a quick few bucks? This is where most coins collapse.
This must be done as matter of urgency, if multipool complain you tell them you will unblock IPs when digishield implemented and explain what happen now, if miners want to mine this coin they must use normal pool in OP list. Pools in OP list care for coin not these profit taking pools that don't give a shit. Banning a multipool with this much power will surely result in DDOS somewhere else or a bypass on the IP-ban and therefor bad blood. It does not seem like multipool listen to your dev and increase hash rate and increase hash time at high rate. You have 2 choices. 1. Piss off Multipools 2. Piss off Dedicated pool miners.
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September 16, 2014, 12:24:43 PM |
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Hit these people in their wallets and they will surely fight back. Don't forget that.
Better fight for the community other then the people who's pockets get filled behind all peoples back.. You are right, like I said in the other post. This is far from ideal. Banning them will surely bring a ton of shit, just my 2 cents here. Let's see what suggestion the devs come up with. I'm sure they're discussing this heavily and thoroughly.
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September 16, 2014, 12:27:29 PM |
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Hit these people in their wallets and they will surely fight back. Don't forget that.
Better fight for the community other then the people who's pockets get filled behind all peoples back.. What about only letting in the IPs from our current pools in the OP list instead of trying to block IPs until they update the coin with the new changes? Do pools only use 1 IP address?
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September 16, 2014, 12:48:18 PM |
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I think it is not Cleverming multipool. I test the mining there right now and a lot of new blocks are found.
So they are not on NLG atm.
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September 16, 2014, 12:50:17 PM |
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I agree the multipools are not in the best interests of Guldencoin. These pools have miners whose solely goal is trading the coin, if needed with big pump and dumps. They do not give a sh.. about the future of Guldencoin. They rip it, take their profits and after it breaks down they move on to the next coin.
The goal of Guldencoin is to be(come) an accepted currency used in real-life payments. These multi-pools are a big threat to that goal. You should not be afraid to block them. If they want to bring on a fight, the community is strong enough to win that fight. If you block them, they can only dump coins once, instead of day by day.
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September 16, 2014, 01:00:41 PM |
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I agree the multipools are not in the best interests of Guldencoin. These pools have miners whose solely goal is trading the coin, if needed with big pump and dumps. They do not give a sh.. about the future of Guldencoin. They rip it, take their profits and after it breaks down they move on to the next coin.
The goal of Guldencoin is to be(come) an accepted currency used in real-life payments. These multi-pools are a big threat to that goal. You should not be afraid to block them. If they want to bring on a fight, the community is strong enough to win that fight. If you block them, they can only dump coins once, instead of day by day.
From peoples guesses we have 15-30 hours to make decisions before next block is resolved.
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September 16, 2014, 01:01:06 PM |
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windows wallet sync hangs on 3hrs ago. anyone got the same problem?
Same here, restarted twice, no moving past that hump....
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September 16, 2014, 01:03:07 PM |
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windows wallet sync hangs on 3hrs ago. anyone got the same problem?
Big jump in hashrate again. KGW is a good thing to stabilize, but it is a finetuning cascade. Once out of balance too much it takes a long time to correct. (Maybe a sort of 2 cascades KGW can be implemented? 1 for finetuning and 1 for more big swings? Don't know if that is possible ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ) Last block found is more than 3 hours ago: 118413 3h 36m 54s 2014-09-16 05:22:19 +0200 http://www.guldencointrader.nl/In the hours before a lot of blocks were found fast, so now a period of long blockfinding time is there to compensate to mean blocktime of 2,5 minutes. It happened also 6 hours ago at block 118295: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F2h5qhwl.jpg&t=665&c=CvwLC0ovJ3_Z-Q) DigiShield has been working well to correct this problem and the people behind it are solid. EDIT: I meant to say "for other coins". I realize NLG is not live with it yet.
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