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September 16, 2014, 07:33:30 PM
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Terk has gotten back to me.  He had originally limited the hashrate that was mining on NLG to a 4th of the total hashrate of the pool.  He has decreased that to an 8th of the total hashrate.  He asked that we monitor the chain and let him know how it looks.

While he hasn't agreed to stop mining NLG, he did agree to work with us to get things running smoothly.

-Fuse

Just to correct things. We put less than 8th of our pool hashrate to NLG.

CleverMining always had an algorithm to limit amount of hashrate pointed at any coin depending on coin difficulty, to don't pump the coin difficulty too much. It works great with DigiShield coins and works well with most KGW coins. I'm not sure why NLG is different here. Maybe KGW doesn't work well with longer times between blocks (most coins these days have 60-second blocks)?

What I did is limited amount of hashpower pointed to NLG to 1/8th of what we point at any other coin with the same difficulty. This isn't related to our total pool hashrate, it's related only to coin difficulty and expected time to find a block. We adjust our maximum allowed hashrate to coin difficulty to don't find blocks too fast. NLG has 8x handicap here from now on. This means we allow 8x less hashpower pointed to NLG than to other coins at the same difficulty.

NLG difficulty already dropped after this change and remains steady. Times between blocks started being more regular. I hope this will help regular pools to also find good blocks and will prevent high difficulty jumps and long times between blocks.

We don't want to withdraw away completely from NLG as we have responsibilities to our users. We promised them to maximize their profits and to mine coins which are profitable. But we also don't want to harm coins and this is why I wanted to find some middle ground between CleverMining users interests and Guldencoin community interests. I hope I found the right balance. I will keep this 8x handicap until Sep 26th when I heard you plan to launch the new difficulty readjustment algorithm.

Thanks for stepping up and making the change, it helps us all in the long run!


Thank you! Just Amazing !
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September 17, 2014, 03:31:12 AM
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First off, I'd like to reiterate the appreciation others have directed to Fuse for reaching out to Terk, and to Terk for adjusting clevermining's algorithms.  It's nice to see changes were made with both cleverminng's and Guldencoin's best interests in mind.  Hopefully no more 4+ hour gaps in the blockchain.

I ran a few queries against the Abe database to see what % of newly created NLG blocks were being mined by Gf7wGA.  The results are cut and paste below.  I found them interesting so figured I'd share.  Disclaimer: I'm not a developer and still figuring out Abe's schema, so take these results with a few grains of salt.  I did manually check the Sept 17 results against explorer.guldencoin.com and the numbers matched up. --Mark

Code:
+------------------------------------------+
|            NLG blocks per day            |
+---------+---------+----------------------+
|   date  | total # |  Gf7wGA # | Gf7wGA % |
+---------+---------+-----------+----------+
|  Aug 15 |   582   |    0      |  0%      |
|  Aug 16 |   571   |    0      |  0%      |
|  Aug 17 |   596   |    107    |  17.95%  |
|  Aug 18 |   567   |    350    |  61.73%  |
|  Aug 19 |   578   |    385    |  66.61%  |
|  Aug 20 |   583   |    320    |  54.89%  |
|  Aug 21 |   598   |    312    |  52.17%  |
|  Aug 22 |   569   |    380    |  66.78%  |
|  Aug 23 |   577   |    398    |  68.98%  |
|  Aug 24 |   557   |    362    |  64.99%  |
|  Aug 25 |   585   |    387    |  66.15%  |
|  Aug 26 |   568   |    371    |  65.32%  |
|  Aug 27 |   576   |    356    |  61.81%  |
|  Aug 28 |   582   |    369    |  63.40%  |
|  Aug 29 |   570   |    367    |  64.39%  |
|  Aug 30 |   577   |    366    |  63.43%  |
|  Aug 31 |   581   |    367    |  63.17%  |
+---------+---------+-----------+----------+
| Sept 01 |   573   |    333    |  58.12%  |
| Sept 02 |   616   |    429    |  69.64%  |
| Sept 03 |   604   |    448    |  74.17%  |
| Sept 04 |   577   |    503    |  87.18%  |
| Sept 05 |   595   |    517    |  86.89%  |
| Sept 06 |   526   |    473    |  89.92%  |
| Sept 07 |   593   |    518    |  87.35%  |
| Sept 08 |   572   |    485    |  84.79%  |
| Sept 09 |   574   |    443    |  77.18%  |
| Sept 10 |   597   |    536    |  89.78%  |
| Sept 11 |   552   |    444    |  80.43%  |
| Sept 12 |   596   |    480    |  80.54%  |
| Sept 13 |   524   |    450    |  85.88%  |
| Sept 14 |   603   |    511    |  84.74%  |
| Sept 15 |   589   |    555    |  94.23%  |
| Sept 16 |   572   |    542    |  94.76%  |
| Sept 17 |   63    |    55     |  87.30%  |
+---------+---------+-----------+----------+

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September 17, 2014, 06:36:01 AM
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First off, I'd like to reiterate the appreciation others have directed to Fuse for reaching out to Terk, and to Terk for adjusting clevermining's algorithms.  It's nice to see changes were made with both cleverminng's and Guldencoin's best interests in mind.  Hopefully no more 4+ hour gaps in the blockchain.

I ran a few queries against the Abe database to see what % of newly created NLG blocks were being mined by Gf7wGA.  The results are cut and paste below.  I found them interesting so figured I'd share.  Disclaimer: I'm not a developer and still figuring out Abe's schema, so take these results with a few grains of salt.  I did manually check the Sept 17 results against explorer.guldencoin.com and the numbers matched up. --Mark

Code:
+------------------------------------------+
|            NLG blocks per day            |
+---------+---------+----------------------+
|   date  | total # |  Gf7wGA # | Gf7wGA % |
+---------+---------+-----------+----------+
|  Aug 15 |   582   |    0      |  0%      |
|  Aug 16 |   571   |    0      |  0%      |
|  Aug 17 |   596   |    107    |  17.95%  |
|  Aug 18 |   567   |    350    |  61.73%  |
|  Aug 19 |   578   |    385    |  66.61%  |
|  Aug 20 |   583   |    320    |  54.89%  |
|  Aug 21 |   598   |    312    |  52.17%  |
|  Aug 22 |   569   |    380    |  66.78%  |
|  Aug 23 |   577   |    398    |  68.98%  |
|  Aug 24 |   557   |    362    |  64.99%  |
|  Aug 25 |   585   |    387    |  66.15%  |
|  Aug 26 |   568   |    371    |  65.32%  |
|  Aug 27 |   576   |    356    |  61.81%  |
|  Aug 28 |   582   |    369    |  63.40%  |
|  Aug 29 |   570   |    367    |  64.39%  |
|  Aug 30 |   577   |    366    |  63.43%  |
|  Aug 31 |   581   |    367    |  63.17%  |
+---------+---------+-----------+----------+
| Sept 01 |   573   |    333    |  58.12%  |
| Sept 02 |   616   |    429    |  69.64%  |
| Sept 03 |   604   |    448    |  74.17%  |
| Sept 04 |   577   |    503    |  87.18%  |
| Sept 05 |   595   |    517    |  86.89%  |
| Sept 06 |   526   |    473    |  89.92%  |
| Sept 07 |   593   |    518    |  87.35%  |
| Sept 08 |   572   |    485    |  84.79%  |
| Sept 09 |   574   |    443    |  77.18%  |
| Sept 10 |   597   |    536    |  89.78%  |
| Sept 11 |   552   |    444    |  80.43%  |
| Sept 12 |   596   |    480    |  80.54%  |
| Sept 13 |   524   |    450    |  85.88%  |
| Sept 14 |   603   |    511    |  84.74%  |
| Sept 15 |   589   |    555    |  94.23%  |
| Sept 16 |   572   |    542    |  94.76%  |
| Sept 17 |   63    |    55     |  87.30%  |
+---------+---------+-----------+----------+
Nice. See no mistake here.
My results were about the same in the post on September 08, 2014, 11:22:02 AM. I screen scraped the data from the chainexplorer with timezone +2.00 and calculated the % against the average found blocks per day. You took the actual found blocks to calculate the %. That's more accurate.

I like to have a site like https://blockchain.info/pools.
And ... a charts with the longest time between blocks per day. I'm willing to donate to the one that finds that block.
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September 17, 2014, 08:21:50 AM
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First off, I'd like to reiterate the appreciation others have directed to Fuse for reaching out to Terk, and to Terk for adjusting clevermining's algorithms.  It's nice to see changes were made with both cleverminng's and Guldencoin's best interests in mind.  Hopefully no more 4+ hour gaps in the blockchain.

I ran a few queries against the Abe database to see what % of newly created NLG blocks were being mined by Gf7wGA.  The results are cut and paste below.  I found them interesting so figured I'd share.  Disclaimer: I'm not a developer and still figuring out Abe's schema, so take these results with a few grains of salt.  I did manually check the Sept 17 results against explorer.guldencoin.com and the numbers matched up. --Mark

Code:
+------------------------------------------+
|            NLG blocks per day            |
+---------+---------+----------------------+
|   date  | total # |  Gf7wGA # | Gf7wGA % |
+---------+---------+-----------+----------+
|  Aug 15 |   582   |    0      |  0%      |
|  Aug 16 |   571   |    0      |  0%      |
|  Aug 17 |   596   |    107    |  17.95%  |
|  Aug 18 |   567   |    350    |  61.73%  |
|  Aug 19 |   578   |    385    |  66.61%  |
|  Aug 20 |   583   |    320    |  54.89%  |
|  Aug 21 |   598   |    312    |  52.17%  |
|  Aug 22 |   569   |    380    |  66.78%  |
|  Aug 23 |   577   |    398    |  68.98%  |
|  Aug 24 |   557   |    362    |  64.99%  |
|  Aug 25 |   585   |    387    |  66.15%  |
|  Aug 26 |   568   |    371    |  65.32%  |
|  Aug 27 |   576   |    356    |  61.81%  |
|  Aug 28 |   582   |    369    |  63.40%  |
|  Aug 29 |   570   |    367    |  64.39%  |
|  Aug 30 |   577   |    366    |  63.43%  |
|  Aug 31 |   581   |    367    |  63.17%  |
+---------+---------+-----------+----------+
| Sept 01 |   573   |    333    |  58.12%  |
| Sept 02 |   616   |    429    |  69.64%  |
| Sept 03 |   604   |    448    |  74.17%  |
| Sept 04 |   577   |    503    |  87.18%  |
| Sept 05 |   595   |    517    |  86.89%  |
| Sept 06 |   526   |    473    |  89.92%  |
| Sept 07 |   593   |    518    |  87.35%  |
| Sept 08 |   572   |    485    |  84.79%  |
| Sept 09 |   574   |    443    |  77.18%  |
| Sept 10 |   597   |    536    |  89.78%  |
| Sept 11 |   552   |    444    |  80.43%  |
| Sept 12 |   596   |    480    |  80.54%  |
| Sept 13 |   524   |    450    |  85.88%  |
| Sept 14 |   603   |    511    |  84.74%  |
| Sept 15 |   589   |    555    |  94.23%  |
| Sept 16 |   572   |    542    |  94.76%  |
| Sept 17 |   63    |    55     |  87.30%  |
+---------+---------+-----------+----------+
Nice. See no mistake here.
My results were about the same in the post on September 08, 2014, 11:22:02 AM. I screen scraped the data from the chainexplorer with timezone +2.00 and calculated the % against the average found blocks per day. You took the actual found blocks to calculate the %. That's more accurate.

I like to have a site like https://blockchain.info/pools.
And ... a charts with the longest time between blocks per day. I'm willing to donate to the one that finds that block.

Hey CIG,

For any new additions to the block explorer, you can enter the above suggestion into the forum topic below. Smiley

https://forum.guldencoin.com/index.php?topic=496.0


https://developer.gulden.com/blog/ - For the latest Gulden development updates
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September 17, 2014, 10:22:37 AM
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I take it while the team is focused on updating to Digishield there is a good possibility we won't see any new merchants for Guldencoin this month.
Another option is getting onto coinpayments as I posted 10 days ago.

They include the top 3 - 5 coins.

I won't put a vote in until I hear peoples responses to this and if they would use any of the merchants on here.

Coinpayment vote has started. I have purchased twice from 2 different stores with dogecoin before and since I am US based I would use / spend NLG there, they only take in cryptos and store owners can decide to keep them or sell them for btc on the exchanges. There is no conversion to US or Euro after when the order has been placed. I will put in a vote later, also don't try voting more then once unless you coming from a different IP, using a different and valid email and sending coins from a different wallet address. They have good checks in place.

https://www.coinpayments.net/vote
https://www.coinpayments.net/vote-results
https://www.coinpayments.net/help-charity-vote
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September 17, 2014, 10:50:34 AM
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I take it while the team is focused on updating to Digishield there is a good possibility we won't see any new merchants for Guldencoin this month.
Another option is getting onto coinpayments as I posted 10 days ago.

They include the top 3 - 5 coins.

I won't put a vote in until I hear peoples responses to this and if they would use any of the merchants on here.

Coinpayment vote has started. I have purchased twice from 2 different stores with dogecoin before and since I am US based I would use / spend NLG there, they only take in cryptos and store owners can decide to keep them or sell them for btc on the exchanges. There is no conversion to US or Euro after when the order has been placed. I will put in a vote later, also don't try voting more then once unless you coming from a different IP, using a different and valid email and sending coins from a different wallet address. They have good checks in place.

https://www.coinpayments.net/vote
https://www.coinpayments.net/vote-results
https://www.coinpayments.net/help-charity-vote

Getting onto Coinpayments will not increase the value of NLG but will give users more options to spend coins. I think I did mention before that NLGs current merchants are 10 times better then the ones listed on coinpayments but you never know if they might bag a few big merchants in the future and we miss out.
However if I was coinpayments though I wouldn't be using a voting system to get coins listed because they end up adding the shit coins trying to create false value.

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September 17, 2014, 11:43:48 AM
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I take it while the team is focused on updating to Digishield there is a good possibility we won't see any new merchants for Guldencoin this month.
Another option is getting onto coinpayments as I posted 10 days ago.

They include the top 3 - 5 coins.

I won't put a vote in until I hear peoples responses to this and if they would use any of the merchants on here.

Coinpayment vote has started. I have purchased twice from 2 different stores with dogecoin before and since I am US based I would use / spend NLG there, they only take in cryptos and store owners can decide to keep them or sell them for btc on the exchanges. There is no conversion to US or Euro after when the order has been placed. I will put in a vote later, also don't try voting more then once unless you coming from a different IP, using a different and valid email and sending coins from a different wallet address. They have good checks in place.

https://www.coinpayments.net/vote
https://www.coinpayments.net/vote-results
https://www.coinpayments.net/help-charity-vote

Getting onto Coinpayments will not increase the value of NLG but will give users more options to spend coins. I think I did mention before that NLGs current merchants are 10 times better then the ones listed on coinpayments but you never know if they might bag a few big merchants in the future and we miss out.
However if I was coinpayments though I wouldn't be using a voting system to get coins listed because they end up adding the shit coins trying to create false value.



I think it's not much benefit for us in the Netherlands but I will put in a vote for people that want to use NLG to buy goods from them. Keep us posted if we going to vote.

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September 17, 2014, 01:30:59 PM
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Posted a message about the petition on the dutch altcoin section:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=783291.0
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September 17, 2014, 01:34:45 PM
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Posted a message about the petition on the dutch altcoin section:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=783291.0

Nice! I do feel the community is generally slacking a bit at this front. Is there something unclear to how you can get a friend or family member to sign, or do you guys mostly don't want to?
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September 17, 2014, 02:04:25 PM
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Posted a message about the petition on the dutch altcoin section:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=783291.0

Nice! I do feel the community is generally slacking a bit at this front. Is there something unclear to how you can get a friend or family member to sign, or do you guys mostly don't want to?

Maybe the title should be: "Steun Guldencoin!" and after that Guldencoin/Coinbase. People strange to crypto don't know what Coinbase is and if they don't know Guldencoin yet, they see 2 strange names at once.
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September 17, 2014, 02:14:33 PM
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Just voted dev team.
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September 17, 2014, 02:18:44 PM
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Posted a message about the petition on the dutch altcoin section:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=783291.0

Nice! I do feel the community is generally slacking a bit at this front. Is there something unclear to how you can get a friend or family member to sign, or do you guys mostly don't want to?

The one thing with petitions is generally only +-10% of the people bother to sign them no matter how hard you try, then in the crypto sphere people want to keep there true identity a secret even though NLG does not advocate secrecy, it is amazing that close to 200 signatures have already been signed and only into the 2nd day.
Just something else to mention is that about 5% or less are using the forums/ann etc that actually own NLG. The last count of DUTCH people claiming was over 1200 about a month ago. This is Dutch citizens ONLY. It also excludes all the non Dutch folks like myself that also support this coin.

You would be close to 2000 signatures already if you could reach out those people that already have NLG.
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September 17, 2014, 02:20:56 PM
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I take it while the team is focused on updating to Digishield there is a good possibility we won't see any new merchants for Guldencoin this month.
Another option is getting onto coinpayments as I posted 10 days ago.

They include the top 3 - 5 coins.

I won't put a vote in until I hear peoples responses to this and if they would use any of the merchants on here.

Coinpayment vote has started. I have purchased twice from 2 different stores with dogecoin before and since I am US based I would use / spend NLG there, they only take in cryptos and store owners can decide to keep them or sell them for btc on the exchanges. There is no conversion to US or Euro after when the order has been placed. I will put in a vote later, also don't try voting more then once unless you coming from a different IP, using a different and valid email and sending coins from a different wallet address. They have good checks in place.

https://www.coinpayments.net/vote
https://www.coinpayments.net/vote-results
https://www.coinpayments.net/help-charity-vote

Getting onto Coinpayments will not increase the value of NLG but will give users more options to spend coins. I think I did mention before that NLGs current merchants are 10 times better then the ones listed on coinpayments but you never know if they might bag a few big merchants in the future and we miss out.
However if I was coinpayments though I wouldn't be using a voting system to get coins listed because they end up adding the shit coins trying to create false value.



I think it's not much benefit for us in the Netherlands but I will put in a vote for people that want to use NLG to buy goods from them. Keep us posted if we going to vote.

I'll say this about coinpayments-

While it may be beneficial to have another payment processor for those services already using it, or looking to use it, it isn't that big of an advantage to us to get on there right now.  The reason being that getting NLG accepted to coinpayments doesn't mean we start getting accepted by the companies listed there(a lot of which are broken storefronts/dead links).  The merchants get to chose which coins they accept.  A lot of them just use it for BTC/LTC/DOGE.  So you would still need to get these merchants to agree to accept NLG.  However, it would give merchants the choice of how to accept NLG.

I say make the push if the community absolutely wants it, but at this time there are greater priorities to think about.

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September 17, 2014, 02:29:29 PM
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Just voted dev team.

+1 Welcome! Also welcome on:

https://forum.guldencoin.com/

There is a dutch and english section.
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September 17, 2014, 02:38:09 PM
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Posted a message about the petition on the dutch altcoin section:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=783291.0

Nice! I do feel the community is generally slacking a bit at this front. Is there something unclear to how you can get a friend or family member to sign, or do you guys mostly don't want to?

The one thing with petitions is generally only +-10% of the people bother to sign them no matter how hard you try, then in the crypto sphere people want to keep there true identity a secret even though NLG does not advocate secrecy, it is amazing that close to 200 signatures have already been signed and only into the 2nd day.
Just something else to mention is that about 5% or less are using the forums/ann etc that actually own NLG. The last count of DUTCH people claiming was over 1200 about a month ago. This is Dutch citizens ONLY. It also excludes all the non Dutch folks like myself that also support this coin.

You would be close to 2000 signatures already if you could reach out those people that already have NLG.

The thing is, I've arranged 50 people to sign it myself already. It's definitely not that hard to do. I am passionate about this project. Guldencoin is a majorly good idea. We have a forum with over 140 people signed up. If everyone gets 10 people to sign, friends, family, coworkers, classmates. That's 1400 signatures right there. We can't approach the people that requested the coins unfortunately, not by e-mail and not by phone sadly. Legal issues and what not. Privacy and all that. And that's fine, if you don't want to sign because it will give your real name to Coinbase and to me. You can still motivate your friends and family to sign Wink

And most of us in here want NLG to do good and getting the word out to Coinbase and others that we are serious about Guldencoin, that's what matters. Getting on Coinbase is such a small chance, but I was under the impression that we were in this together. Whether you want the coin to be worth a lot so you can get profit, or get it to grow so we can all use it and spend it. Sign it. See where this puppy can go.
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Posted a message about the petition on the dutch altcoin section:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=783291.0

Nice! I do feel the community is generally slacking a bit at this front. Is there something unclear to how you can get a friend or family member to sign, or do you guys mostly don't want to?

The one thing with petitions is generally only +-10% of the people bother to sign them no matter how hard you try, then in the crypto sphere people want to keep there true identity a secret even though NLG does not advocate secrecy, it is amazing that close to 200 signatures have already been signed and only into the 2nd day.
Just something else to mention is that about 5% or less are using the forums/ann etc that actually own NLG. The last count of DUTCH people claiming was over 1200 about a month ago. This is Dutch citizens ONLY. It also excludes all the non Dutch folks like myself that also support this coin.

You would be close to 2000 signatures already if you could reach out those people that already have NLG.

The thing is, I've arranged 50 people to sign it myself already. It's definitely not that hard to do. I am passionate about this project. Guldencoin is a majorly good idea. We have a forum with over 140 people signed up. If everyone gets 10 people to sign, friends, family, coworkers, classmates. That's 1400 signatures right there. We can't approach the people that requested the coins unfortunately, not by e-mail and not by phone sadly. Legal issues and what not. Privacy and all that. And that's fine, if you don't want to sign because it will give your real name to Coinbase and to me. You can still motivate your friends and family to sign Wink

And most of us in here want NLG to do good and getting the word out to Coinbase and others that we are serious about Guldencoin, that's what matters. Getting on Coinbase is such a small chance, but I was under the impression that we were in this together. Whether you want the coin to be worth a lot so you can get profit, or get it to grow so we can all use it and spend it. Sign it. See where this puppy can go.

I would like to point out that not even worldcoin forum membership is as big as Guldencoins and definitely not nearly as active, however there is a reason litecoin and dogecoin haven't petitioned to coinbase as even those coins would battle to get 10 000 signatures.
This is one of the reasons I have backed Guldencoin because you can get a whole nation behind the coin eventually but it needs more time, promoting, marketing etc etc. Do this same petition in 1 year if the coin keeps growing like it has and you will see very positive results.

This is a great initiative like others have said and I would see over 500 signatures as a great achievement at this stage in the coins life. 90% of the alts are lucky to have 30-50 member community.

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Just a reminder on the new page here.

Don't forget to vote here too:
https://forum.guldencoin.com/index.php?topic=521.0

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The response has been good with feedback and 14 people voted so far! Thanks!

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September 17, 2014, 05:06:45 PM
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I bought up some NLG in the 800s, not much only 5k. Should I wait until 600s to buy again... this market is confusing me but I just want to get as much NLG as I can for best price.
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I bought up some NLG in the 800s, not much only 5k. Should I wait until 600s to buy again... this market is confusing me but I just want to get as much NLG as I can for best price.

someone said there won't be any new merchants until October because of digishield and all dev on hold until this happen. So price will go to under 700 but make sure you buy in before digishield come and I think dev and merchants will come again.
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September 17, 2014, 05:15:14 PM
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I bought up some NLG in the 800s, not much only 5k. Should I wait until 600s to buy again... this market is confusing me but I just want to get as much NLG as I can for best price.

There are only a few real sellorders (total 4 BTC) from 815 up to 1020 sat atm. Maybe someone is trying to let people sell cheap by driving the price down?. Most sellorders are in the lowest part.

I don't know what you can do best now, wait or buy..
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