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August 22, 2025, 07:09:23 PM
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I would guess PSG will not be as good as last year neither, they have shown their strength but teams now know their system very well and they are going to be ready, which means they are not going to shock anyone with their talent or strategy anymore and everyone will be ready.

Even Chelsea managed to win the finals against them, and even Spurs almost had their number. So it's clear to me that PSG is not as good as last year, or even if we assume they are just as good, they are the same team, same quality, same tactics, everything the same so the other teams are more ready for them. This is why I can see them winning ligue 1, but not going to win UCL, that will be a difficult thing for them to handle and won't happen.

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August 22, 2025, 07:22:51 PM
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Chelsea is a very good team. Chelsea is in very good form at the moment. If we compare Chelsea with other teams, we may see that many big teams are in very bad form and playing very badly compared to Chelsea. But this is not how it should be. If a team has to do well like Chelsea this season, they will have to work very hard and they cannot be allowed to have any kind of weakness. They have to prepare themselves very hard. Currently, very small teams are adding many big players to their teams and they are trying to get to a very good level.

Even as good as Chelsea, they can still be predictable at times, as they were fortunate to have won the World Cup. This was partly due to PSG's fault, and predicting Chelsea to win the Champions League doesn't seem right to me. And we know that Chelsea is doing great, but at some point, a lot of big teams are not doing very well, and if not for that, people would not have even imagined that Chelsea would go that far, and when it is now like that, then they will take advantage of other clubs so this is why i don't even think it is valid but Chelsea winning the champions league i don't think that is even correct i doubt.

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August 22, 2025, 08:54:05 PM
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The odds currently for the CL winner:

PSG : 6.00

Liverpool : 7.00

Real Madrid : 8.00

Barcelona : 8.00

Am I surprised with the balance of the odds? Not at all... It's normal to expect PSG to go for a back-to-back. You've all seen how they crushed everyone in the CL previously after league phase ended.

The biggest obstacle has been English teams... I see Liverpool as a bigger threat now. I'm not sure about Real Madrid yet. We need to watch Xabi Alonso's system more. Barcelona can once again try their luck with Hansi Flick's great game plan.  Smiley

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August 22, 2025, 09:50:17 PM
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I am sure that nothing will change if they have one additional player who can score. It's not just about one player, but about the team itself and their tactics. What's the point of having a goal scorer if they can't pass the ball well to him so that he has minimal problems on his way to the goal? That's why they need more in-depth work than just a player at the forefront, which they already have.
Change ought to be constant in a team because it varies every season and also the players. The formidable ones coming to peak and also losing form and stands. Who doesn't love football? It's epic and world-class, there's actually more we've watch and enjoyed in this football space. A goal is always seen as the most important feature of most players specifically pointing to the direction of the attackers. Of what use are they if they don't have the capability to enchance their foot and bang goals? More like a woman that can't give birth to a baby, a barren lady, exactly the scenario applied to attacker.

What kind of comparisons are these? What do women and entertainment have to do with it? I'm talking about using tactics, that they need to change their style of play, and then they'll be able to attack sharply and score goals. The last match clearly showed that this is where they have gaps. Buying new players is an integral part, but not always necessary if there is an option to change something so that the tactics work again.
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August 23, 2025, 02:42:41 AM
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I don't think so either. I think there are other teams that are much stronger. My favorites are still the EPL teams like Arsenal, Liverpool, Man City, and then in Spain, Madrid and Barcelona. But I think anything can still happen. There’s always a new surprise in the Champions League. But the dominance of the teams seems to remain the same, with no major changes. Currently, there are still seven more teams competing to qualify for the UCL. I see some new teams I’ve rarely heard of, and perhaps Pafos and Kairat have a chance to make history by qualifying for the UCL.
This means that the race for the Champions League title will be very difficult for Chelsea this season, although surprises can sometimes occur. But looking at the current Premier League representatives, I agree that Liverpool and Manchester City are much more convincing because they are both much better. Conversely, the Spanish representatives, Real Madrid and Barcelona, are always the mainstays because they are always strong candidates. Some teams fighting to qualify for the Champions League can indeed surprise, but they only make it to the knockout stages because when facing tough opponents, they lose mentally in many ways.

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August 23, 2025, 10:21:09 AM
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You do know that the Premier League has started right?
And that Chelsea only drew at home while Liverpool, Arsenal, and City all won their matches, right?
So, what are those teams that are playing very badly?  Grin
Barcelona? Madrid? Oh, wait!

As for Bodo, Sturm, like seriously, a team wiped with a 5-1 by the first real team they met, and the other that managed to save face in the last tournament just because they made it without a round of qualification and the only serious team they encounted beat them 5-0, seriously, both are here just to make the numbers.
While just one game doesn't matter, I do agree that Chelsea isn't good enough to win neither UCL nor EPL, they are good enough to win FA cup if they put their workload into that, but I am pretty sure they won't focus on that. It is going to be tough and it is going to be a difficult path for them.

I am sure that they are going to end up with fourth place at the very best case and that is why I am sure that they are going to end up with not the thing people hope for. CWC win screwed up with peoples minds, and that is why they are handling this wrong, it is not that great and people expect too much from them. UCL is filled with amazing teams, they are not going to face some Brazilian team or something, they will face the biggest clubs there.

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August 23, 2025, 10:57:09 AM
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How do you know that Benfica will win in front of their fans? The second legs are always more interesting, but they're always played cautiously. Fenerbahce always knows how to perform in important matches, so i think it won't be easy for Benfica to beat them.
Unfortunately, we can't guarantee that Benfica will be able to achieve what they promise to do, but having the fans behind them certainly helps.
I've seen matches where fans cheered until the end, pumping up the team who then turned the result around in a few minutes.
You can't guarantee a win for any team ever. That is not really possible, and that is why we do not know the answer to this game. However, we can make speculations which is the entire betting industry relies on, we do not know the answer and we just try to make a guess. This is the same, we are going to see how this could change, and how we could see better results.

If we can do that, then we are going to end up with Benfica winning, because that is what we speculate, and if you look at the odds, then Benfica is heavily favourited to win at their home ground as well. The only downside is that, they are going to have to win a single game, it's not a league thing, they either win, or they go to Europa, so it's very much an unknown game.

European matches are always different. Take Red Star – Pafos as an example. Red Star were the favorites, the odds for Pafos were 5.70, yet in the end Pafos won. What i mean is that odds are just numbers regardless of the fact that Benfica is the stronger team, in these kinds of matches anything is possible.

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August 23, 2025, 03:15:50 PM
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Am I surprised with the balance of the odds? Not at all... It's normal to expect PSG to go for a back-to-back. You've all seen how they crushed everyone in the CL previously after league phase ended.

The biggest obstacle has been English teams... I see Liverpool as a bigger threat now. I'm not sure about Real Madrid yet. We need to watch Xabi Alonso's system more. Barcelona can once again try their luck with Hansi Flick's great game plan.  Smiley
The beauty of those lines is that, if you bet on Liverpool, PSG, Real Madrid, Barcelona all at once, lets say 100 dollars each, you spend 400 dollars, and even the lowest odds PSG would get you 600 back, making you a profit.

So a team outside of these four needs to win to make you lose. Which is of course possible and that is why it's gambling, but it is also a low chance, there are other teams which you may end up adding and still make it at least break even, let's say you add 2 more teams and still break even if PSG wins the whole thing. So it is definitely worth a shot, seems like a good bet, doesn't guarantee a win, but the downside looks very low so the risk is minimal and I love those kinds of bets when it comes to it.

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Anything can happen. Even a team you did not expect to win or even perform well will surprise you. That is how football works, and for that, even Chelsea can win the UCL.
Football cannot be predicted every time successfully, we ha e to try our best, because these players and their respective teams are also trying all their best to ensure that they emerged for the best and to the last, the UEFA Champions League title is what every team has been aiming, same also, we can't tell who may win for this new season, until we see how far they all can go in it.
One reason I believe is making many think one team will win over the other is mostly because they have seen that these teams may be doing well in their various domestic leagues and probably have fantastic squad but even with all of that, it will be best to wait till the season kicks off then we for sure are going to see who has better potential at the champions league trophy over the others, the champions league will start weeks ahead and so predictions now may just be based on assertions.

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While just one game doesn't matter, I do agree that Chelsea isn't good enough to win neither UCL nor EPL, they are good enough to win FA cup if they put their workload into that, but I am pretty sure they won't focus on that. It is going to be tough and it is going to be a difficult path for them.

To be honest, after Inter reached the semi-finals despite being an inconsistent team that just managed to tiem their matches right, I don't doubt nay of the big 4 from the top leagues could eventually reach it also, maybe not from the Bundesliga as there is only Bayern and maybe Dortmund, but the rest yeah, for sure they can.

What I was against was labeling other teams as being bad starters and out of form, lise serious, which one?

The beauty of those lines is that, if you bet on Liverpool, PSG, Real Madrid, Barcelona all at once, lets say 100 dollars each, you spend 400 dollars, and even the lowest odds PSG would get you 600 back, making you a profit.

So what happens if Arsenal, Bayern, City or Chelsea win?  Grin
This is a perfect example of trying to get insurance by betting on multiple teams, ignoring that there are still plenty you haven't taken care of!

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August 23, 2025, 04:34:35 PM
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One reason I believe is making many think one team will win over the other is mostly because they have seen that these teams may be doing well in their various domestic leagues and probably have fantastic squad but even with all of that, it will be best to wait till the season kicks off then we for sure are going to see who has better potential at the champions league trophy over the others, the champions league will start weeks ahead and so predictions now may just be based on assertions.

The assertions also serve as support for the favored team, or indeed, look at the performance in the preseason and the early matches of the newly started league. To play it out more, we can indeed assess the strength of each team once the competition has begun. A team with a fantastic squad is not necessarily going to play well in the Champions League. They could be unlucky to face a strong team.

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August 23, 2025, 04:53:43 PM
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The odds currently for the CL winner:

PSG : 6.00

Liverpool : 7.00

Real Madrid : 8.00

Barcelona : 8.00

Am I surprised with the balance of the odds? Not at all... It's normal to expect PSG to go for a back-to-back. You've all seen how they crushed everyone in the CL previously after league phase ended.

The biggest obstacle has been English teams... I see Liverpool as a bigger threat now. I'm not sure about Real Madrid yet. We need to watch Xabi Alonso's system more. Barcelona can once again try their luck with Hansi Flick's great game plan.  Smiley
Look, the most dangerous threat this year can really only be Barcelona, ??who if they get into gear can really go on to win everything. I exclude Real Madrid a priori, but I would also include some Italian teams who, as always, are underestimated but always reserve big surprises for us.

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August 23, 2025, 05:27:03 PM
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but I would also include some Italian teams who, as always, are underestimated but always reserve big surprises for us.
I think it makes sense that their odds for winning the UCL are lower, considering no one actually managed to win the cup in the last few years or so. You can't really argue that their squad quality is similar or better than those teams with low odds anyway. But as always, football isn't a game played on a spreadsheet, so we can only see how it goes. Besides, if they truly managed to win the UCL, it means bigger wins for those who support them. CMIIW.

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August 23, 2025, 06:14:37 PM
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I would guess PSG will not be as good as last year neither, they have shown their strength but teams now know their system very well and they are going to be ready, which means they are not going to shock anyone with their talent or strategy anymore and everyone will be ready.

Even Chelsea managed to win the finals against them, and even Spurs almost had their number. So it's clear to me that PSG is not as good as last year, or even if we assume they are just as good, they are the same team, same quality, same tactics, everything the same so the other teams are more ready for them. This is why I can see them winning ligue 1, but not going to win UCL, that will be a difficult thing for them to handle and won't happen.
To tell the truth, last year they were saved by Donnarumma who made a series of saves that allowed the team to stay in the competition. This year I don't know if they'll be as lucky. They should have been eliminated much earlier in the Champions League and should never have reached the final.

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but I would also include some Italian teams who, as always, are underestimated but always reserve big surprises for us.
No room for underestimating zones here. Italian teams have been underrated over the years and we can remember vividly how Inter Milan knocked out almighty formed Barcelona out of the UEFA Champions League and we had to see the competitive strength of this particular club. Surprises will always come either from Seria A teams, La Liga teams or the EPL. These clubs put in much more efforts to accumulate a win and they will always come for the big win.

 
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but I would also include some Italian teams who, as always, are underestimated but always reserve big surprises for us.
No room for underestimating zones here. Italian teams have been underrated over the years and we can remember vividly how Inter Milan knocked out almighty formed Barcelona out of the UEFA Champions League and we had to see the competitive strength of this particular club. Surprises will always come either from Seria A teams, La Liga teams or the EPL. These clubs put in much more efforts to accumulate a win and they will always come for the big win.
Yes, I think the teams competing in the Champions League, regardless of their origins, certainly cannot be underestimated. Because basically, the teams that make it to the Champions League are all extraordinary teams. So with that in mind, there should be no such thing as underestimating teams in the Champions League, especially when it comes to teams from the Italian League or Serie A. Because in my opinion, the Serie A teams that make it to the Champions League are truly great teams.

So we can't say that Serie A teams are underestimated. Because the proof is, as we know, in the previous season, Inter Milan, a Serie A team, managed to reach the final. This is basically clear evidence that teams from the Italian League are also very strong. And this season, the Serie A teams that managed to qualify for the Champions League are Napoli, Inter, Atalanta, and Juventus. I think of those four teams, there's a good chance one or two will be formidable contenders in the Champions League. Personally, I'd probably back Inter again.

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No room for underestimating zones here. Italian teams have been underrated over the years and we can remember vividly how Inter Milan knocked out almighty formed Barcelona out of the UEFA Champions League and we had to see the competitive strength of this particular club. Surprises will always come either from Seria A teams, La Liga teams or the EPL. These clubs put in much more efforts to accumulate a win and they will always come for the big win.
All teams have an equal chance to compete for the title, but looking at the quality of the players in each team reveals the quality of the team's competitiveness. Inter Milan has been quite good at eliminating some strong teams, but they have always failed to reach the championship final. This season, I see the Premier League representatives as having a better chance, although I'm not discounting Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Barcelona, or PSG. Anything can happen, as football sometimes goes unpredictably.

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No room for underestimating zones here. Italian teams have been underrated over the years and we can remember vividly how Inter Milan knocked out almighty formed Barcelona out of the UEFA Champions League and we had to see the competitive strength of this particular club. Surprises will always come either from Seria A teams, La Liga teams or the EPL. These clubs put in much more efforts to accumulate a win and they will always come for the big win.
Every team that is confirmed to qualify for the Champions League always shows a different performance as usual, Serie A teams may look weaker than EPL and La Liga teams especially Real Madrid and Barcelona, ​​but in reality Inter managed to break that assumption even though they lost badly in the final last season. No one can underestimate anyone in the UCL because they will show different performances to become the best in Europe, surprises will always come and every season there will always be a dark horse team ready to stop the steps of the big teams.
Last season, Real Madrid and Manchester City almost qualified for the knockout stages due to their inability to maintain their best performance. This season there may be another surprise that was never expected before.

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No room for underestimating zones here. Italian teams have been underrated over the years and we can remember vividly how Inter Milan knocked out almighty formed Barcelona out of the UEFA Champions League and we had to see the competitive strength of this particular club. Surprises will always come either from Seria A teams, La Liga teams or the EPL. These clubs put in much more efforts to accumulate a win and they will always come for the big win.
Every team that is confirmed to qualify for the Champions League always shows a different performance as usual, Serie A teams may look weaker than EPL and La Liga teams especially Real Madrid and Barcelona, ​​but in reality Inter managed to break that assumption even though they lost badly in the final last season. No one can underestimate anyone in the UCL because they will show different performances to become the best in Europe, surprises will always come and every season there will always be a dark horse team ready to stop the steps of the big teams.
Last season, Real Madrid and Manchester City almost qualified for the knockout stages due to their inability to maintain their best performance. This season there may be another surprise that was never expected before.
If we remember it again carefully, even PSG initially struggled to get past the League Phase, although they ultimately emerged as champions last season. This tells us all that the competitive dynamics of the Champions League produce many surprises, are difficult to predict, and often the surprises come from teams that are completely unfavored.
Aston Villa journey last season can be a perfect example, how they managed to finish in the top eight and automatically qualify for the Round of 16, while at the same time, some elite teams had to fight through the playoff route. I think only a small number of people believed Aston Villa could make it to the quarterfinals. So I agree that in the Champions League, no team can be underestimated, they can perform beyond anyone expectations.

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but I would also include some Italian teams who, as always, are underestimated but always reserve big surprises for us.
No room for underestimating zones here. Italian teams have been underrated over the years and we can remember vividly how Inter Milan knocked out almighty formed Barcelona out of the UEFA Champions League and we had to see the competitive strength of this particular club. Surprises will always come either from Seria A teams, La Liga teams or the EPL. These clubs put in much more efforts to accumulate a win and they will always come for the big win.
Of course, these are the leagues that has been dominating the Champions League for long. It was last season that Ligue 1 lifted up the trophy for the first time in history. Inter was the only strong club that played Barcelona last season and Barcelona couldn't win them. I don't consider Barcelona as one of the favorite team to win the Champions League this season.

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