List of users promoting the BetPanda.io scam casino

[haircombint]

Betpanda.io is a confirmed scam. Their main angle is stealing your deposits, and when you ask for them back, the customer service will say that you broke their "policies" while not even elaborating on which policies you broke (as if breaking policy entitles them to your deposits to begin with).

Betpanda prides and markets itself on being anonymous, yet repeatedly accuses it's own users of making secondary accounts (go figure on that one), and then cites the creation of a second account as a reason to steal your deposit. how do you as a user prove that you didn't make a second account on an anonymous exchange? you can't.

How does betpanda know the same user is making an account on their platform if it's an anonymous casino? Answer: it doesn't matter, because they're going to take your money whether it's an anonymous exchange or not.

They take weeks to reply to users and usually just end up asking for KYC if you do end up getting in contact with them. So much for anonymity...

Here is the list of bitcointalk users that I can find that are currently paid to shill for this scam and may even own the scam themselves:

1. logfiles
2. Ultegra134
3. Wiwo
4. memehunter
5. Reynaldo
6. _BlackStar
7. khaled0111
8. DYING_S0UL

(they like to claim they don't support betpanda but clearly have an incentive to. they must be held accountable for what they are advertising)

here is a list of threads people have made about being scammed over the years by betpanda:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5549226.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5541685.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5537696.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5548753.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5526543.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5541706.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5538597.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5532461.0

users outside of bitcointalk have also been scammed, you can read about it here:
https://www.askgamblers.com/online-casinos/reviews/betpanda-io-casino
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/betpanda.io

stay safe guys

[lostbigtime]

Indeed it is a scam operation.

Coming up with their bs terms and conditions and their service provider related ''suspicious'' betting activity inorder to block your account and confiscate even your initial deposit is a blatant scam.

They don't even care being labeled as a scam website as they provide ''0'' evidence on their decisions of blocking people and confiscating funds.

I hope this topic comes up more frequent on google so no one deposits even 1 cent to that scam centre.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Well I can only speak for myself and in around 6 months or so I always got my money, while being in profit and not in loss, so there is that. And I also used the sports book, aside from the casino.
Obviously it's bad to encounter a problem, I have been there myself on other sites. Especially when the odds provider is involved and the site just follows their lead it's super annoying.

Blaming some accounts in this forum to promote a site is nonsense on the other hand.

[nutildah]

OP is mad that logfiles pointed out inconsistencies about his project over 5 years ago, LOL.

I can never understand why someone who want to use stock images and make people believe that it's how the team member looks like?
It's faking Identity or Identity theft and such a person or project can never be trusted. What's the problem with leaving out the team part if they want to stay anonymous?

If they can fake identity, there they are definitely faking more things about them and their project.

Then he came back to bump the thread after 5 years and this happened:

It's crazy to think this one piece of misinfo kept so many people from discovering the biggest breakthrough in recent crypto history

What biggest break through?  
Using fake team images or spreading malware?

In fact, thanks for letting us know you have other alt accounts. They should get negative tags too for dishonest practices that you are your team seem to be good at

I'm not sure if the malware detections are legit or false positives but I wouldn't run this software. OP started concentrating his attacks on logfiles rather than explain the situation in a calm and rational manner, which means it most likely is malware:

can we make a list of all the people advertising this scam and hold them accountable? there are countless threads about how betpanda is a scam on bitcointalk alone (not counting the other stories across the web). i will start

1. logfiles

So yeah, this is a personal grudge and doesn't really have anything to do with BetPanda.

[haircombint]

Indeed it is a scam operation.

Coming up with their bs terms and conditions and their service provider related ''suspicious'' betting activity inorder to block your account and confiscate even your initial deposit is a blatant scam.

They don't even care being labeled as a scam website as they provide ''0'' evidence on their decisions of blocking people and confiscating funds.

I hope this topic comes up more frequent on google so no one deposits even 1 cent to that scam centre.

yep

Well I can only speak for myself and in around 6 months or so I always got my money, while being in profit and not in loss, so there is that. And I also used the sports book, aside from the casino.
Obviously it's bad to encounter a problem, I have been there myself on other sites. Especially when the odds provider is involved and the site just follows their lead it's super annoying.

Blaming some accounts in this forum to promote a site is nonsense on the other hand.

it's a selective scam. they give you the smaller wins so they can fleece you later for the bigger transactions later

OP is mad that logfiles pointed out inconsistencies about his project over 5 years ago, LOL.

I can never understand why someone who want to use stock images and make people believe that it's how the team member looks like?
It's faking Identity or Identity theft and such a person or project can never be trusted. What's the problem with leaving out the team part if they want to stay anonymous?

If they can fake identity, there they are definitely faking more things about them and their project.

Then he came back to bump the thread after 5 years and this happened:

It's crazy to think this one piece of misinfo kept so many people from discovering the biggest breakthrough in recent crypto history

What biggest break through?  
Using fake team images or spreading malware?

In fact, thanks for letting us know you have other alt accounts. They should get negative tags too for dishonest practices that you are your team seem to be good at

I'm not sure if the malware detections are legit or false positives but I wouldn't run this software. OP started concentrating his attacks on logfiles rather than explain the situation in a calm and rational manner, which means it most likely is malware:

can we make a list of all the people advertising this scam and hold them accountable? there are countless threads about how betpanda is a scam on bitcointalk alone (not counting the other stories across the web). i will start

1. logfiles

So yeah, this is a personal grudge and doesn't really have anything to do with BetPanda.

logfiles called the open source project i was following a scam so i looked into the closed source casino he was being paid to shill and it brought me to this nightmare casino that people have been being fleeced from for awhile now. is that a crime? no

[haircombint]

Blaming some accounts in this forum to promote a site is nonsense on the other hand.

amazing how the guy being paid to promote a gambling site has a problem with holding people accountable LOL

I'm not sure if the malware detections are legit or false positives but I wouldn't run this software. OP started concentrating his attacks on logfiles rather than explain the situation in a calm and rational manner, which means it most likely is malware:

of course the detections are false positives. why on earth would it be open source if it were malware?

here's a better question: is the casino you're paid to shill open source? maybe i should look into betfury next

[nutildah]

logfiles called the open source project i was following a scam

Bro that was over 5 years ago! And he had good reason, what with the website using fake team images & the sketchy virustotal results.

so i looked into the closed source casino he was being paid to shill and it brought me to this nightmare casino that people have been being fleeced from for awhile now. is that a crime? no

Is logfiles "shilling" the casino? No. Is he advertising it in his signature space? Yes. Is it weird to ask yourself questions that nobody else was going to ask? Yes.

of course the detections are false positives. why on earth would it be open source if it were malware?

Given that MarkM has used the software and likes the project, my confidence in it has been a bit restored.

here's a better question: is the casino you're paid to shill open source?

Of course casinos aren't "open source". They are websites. Sometimes the games inside them are open source, or "provably fair" as is more often said, but at the end of the day faith is required that the games operate as advertised and the casino pays out what they're supposed to.

maybe i should look into betfury next

Stop talking about it and do it.

[haircombint]

logfiles called the open source project i was following a scam

Bro that was over 5 years ago! And he had good reason, what with the website using fake team images & the sketchy virustotal results.

so i looked into the closed source casino he was being paid to shill and it brought me to this nightmare casino that people have been being fleeced from for awhile now. is that a crime? no

Is logfiles "shilling" the casino? No. Is he advertising it in his signature space? Yes. Is it weird to ask yourself questions that nobody else was going to ask? Yes.

of course the detections are false positives. why on earth would it be open source if it were malware?

Given that MarkM has used the software and likes the project, my confidence in it has been a bit restored.

here's a better question: is the casino you're paid to shill open source?

Of course casinos aren't "open source". They are websites. Sometimes the games inside them are open source, or "provably fair" as is more often said, but at the end of the day faith is required that the games operate as advertised and the casino pays out what they're supposed to.

maybe i should look into betfury next

Stop talking about it and do it.

advertising in my eyes is a commercial for laundry detergent or something. it becomes shilling when you strip your social media of any profile picture or identity and replace it with a shady casino designed to feed into people's addictions and ruin peoples lives. it makes sense you have a problem with me calling it shilling because you're guilty of the same thing lol

at least youre smarter than logfiles and can do a bit of research before calling something a scam. let me reframe the question about betfury:
are the games on betfury open source? if the answer is no, why aren't they? how much are you being paid to shill them? it will help with the thread i possibly make

[Cointxz]

So you are questioning the anonymous feature of the casino on why they bust multiple account when cheating?

Betpanda has license to operate which means they can ask KYC anytime despite its not a mandatory requirements. In addition, they can detect similar IP and device login to determine multiple account especially if both account showing similar activity.

[haircombint]

So you are questioning the anonymous feature of the casino on why they bust multiple account when cheating?

Betpanda has license to operate which means they can ask KYC anytime despite its not a mandatory requirements. In addition, they can detect similar IP and device login to determine multiple account especially if both account showing similar activity.

so then it isn't anonymous and they should stop shilling as such.

can we get someone here who is NOT a casino shill btw because this is exhausting

[nutildah]

I don't really care about your personal definitions of "advertisement" and "shilling," and neither does anybody else. Not everybody who gambles is an addict, just like not everybody who drinks is an alcoholic. Both casinos are no more "shady" than your project.

Obviously you've never played at an online casino, and that's fine, but I'm not going to explain how they work to you as I have better things to do. Its clear you made this thread to exact some kind of revenge on logfiles and couldn't care less about the casino. Its a lame maneuver which I've seen scammers pull dozens or even hundreds of times over the last 11 years and it just makes your project look more like a scam than it might actually be.

I'm thoroughly bored now so I'm going to bow out of this discussion.

[haircombint]

I don't really care about your personal definitions of "advertisement" and "shilling," and neither does anybody else. Not everybody who gambles is an addict, just like not everybody who drinks is an alcoholic. Both casinos are no more "shady" than your project.

then why should i care about your definition of the word shilling? nice dodge btw

also the casinos are 100% more shady than "my" project (it's not even mine). the project is open source and improves the bitcoin ecosystem. your project pays you to shill and ruin peoples lives and their games arent open source

[Cointxz]

So you are questioning the anonymous feature of the casino on why they bust multiple account when cheating?

Betpanda has license to operate which means they can ask KYC anytime despite its not a mandatory requirements. In addition, they can detect similar IP and device login to determine multiple account especially if both account showing similar activity.

so then it isn't anonymous and they should stop shilling as such.

can we get someone here who is NOT a casino shill btw because this is exhausting

Point out to me where is the part on my post that I shill a casino?

I just stating a counter fact against your scam accusation on how casino detect multiple account.

If you visit the earlier page of their ANN thread, You will notice that many user already pointed out to them that they are not anonymous casino. They are just using that description for marketing purposes.

You should check always casino ToS because that's always govern.

[haircombint]

So you are questioning the anonymous feature of the casino on why they bust multiple account when cheating?

Betpanda has license to operate which means they can ask KYC anytime despite its not a mandatory requirements. In addition, they can detect similar IP and device login to determine multiple account especially if both account showing similar activity.

so then it isn't anonymous and they should stop shilling as such.

can we get someone here who is NOT a casino shill btw because this is exhausting

Point out to me where is the part on my post that I shill a casino?

I just stating a counter fact against your scam accusation on how casino detect multiple account.

If you visit the earlier page of their ANN thread, You will notice that many user already pointed out to them that they are not anonymous casino. They are just using that description for marketing purposes.

You should check always casino ToS because that's always govern.

your entire ACCOUNT shills a casino.

and thank you for agreeing that the marketing is dishonest

[Ultegra134]

Sooo basically, someone from BetPanda called out your shady service and now you're coming up with names that as you claim "own" the casino, for a personal spite? The terms of service clearly mention that you are not allowed to use multiple accounts, yet, it's extremely likely that you did just that and got caught for it. It's also mentioned in their TOS that they may ask for KYC at any time, which is sensible because they're a licensed casino, you can get away with no-KYC, since it's not mandatory at signup, but you may be subject to it in the future.

[haircombint]

Sooo basically, someone from BetPanda called out your shady service and now you're coming up with names that as you claim "own" the casino, for a personal spite? The terms of service clearly mention that you are not allowed to use multiple accounts, yet, it's extremely likely that you did just that and got caught for it. It's also mentioned in their TOS that they may ask for KYC at any time, which is sensible because they're a licensed casino, you can get away with no-KYC, since it's not mandatory at signup, but you may be subject to it in the future.

what does that say in your signature, betpanda shill? 'anonymous'? hmmm that's weird for a KYC casino.

it's extremely likely i made a second account? lolol i don't even have any account but go ahead and wax poetic for your gambling masters

[T1HGO]

The funny thing with this scam casino is that they ask KYC AFTER they ban people.
So let's use some logic here. If they say we broke broke ToS, and banned us for it, why are they asking for documents? If they say they are already sure we broke it, banning should be enough. But no, they want documents as well. I've never seen practices like this anywhere else. This was one of the points i've raised in my scam accusation thread, that nobody was able to come up with a reason, so will ask it here.

This is a police case if i've ever seen one, and should be investigated. I suspect this site is not just a scam. It goes deeper than a scam.

[haircombint]

The funny thing with this scam casino is that they ask KYC AFTER they ban people.
So let's use some logic here. If they say we broke broke ToS, and banned us for it, why are they asking for documents? If they say they are already sure we broke it, banning should be enough. But no, they want documents as well. I've never seen practices like this anywhere else. This was one of the points i've raised in my scam accusation thread, that nobody was able to come up with a reason, so will ask it here.

This is a police case if i've ever seen one, and should be investigated. I suspect this site is not just a scam. It goes deeper than a scam.

bitcointalk mods allow casino shills to swarm the site so even if these concerns got answered it wouldnt matter because there would just be another scam casino to replace it.

the only thing anonymous about betpanda is their own team lolol

[haircombint]

updated, new users advertisting betscamda:


6. _BlackStar
7. khaled0111
8. DYING_S0UL