2UP.io | No-KYC Crypto Casino & BTC Sportsbook | Fast Withdrawals + 200% Bonus

[khaled0111]

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I guess we all agree that almost all casinos that advertise themselves to be anti-KYC will, at some point, ask you to verify your identity, especially if you are suspected of breaching their terms or cheating. But what is really interesting here is that after taking a look at the scam accusation topics against 2up.io (many of which have been resolved, btw), none of the accusers has ever mentioned being asked to verify their identity or undergo kyc!

[lionheart78]

From the title I read, does 2UP really not require "KYC"?

I'm looking for a new casino to play at and I value my privacy very much.

So far, the casino claims that they don't require KYC on a regular basis.  They implemented this system, and it was proven by members of the forum who are able to withdraw without any KYC proceedings.

Always be prepared to submit KYC at any time in this site and most other ones frankly speaking.

Absolutely.
I learned this the hard way when I first started. I was shocked that, that particular casino was asking for kyc document the second time I was attempting to withdraw my winning. I thought they were looking for a way to withhold my winnings and not give me. Well, it took me some days to get the documents.

It wasn't until after then that I read that KYC can be requested at anytime and yes, it can also be more than once it they have any suspicion.

Some casinos implement a withdrawal limit before the KYC requirement is triggered. Probably, you hit the threshold, and the system of that casino requires you to undergo a KYC procedure.  2up.io does not have such withdrawal limit for the KYC to kick in.

Hi，we do not have withdrawal limits. You will be required to turnover 1x on the deposit (this feature will be implemented early next month).

Thanks

For withdrawals, there's a 1x wagering requirement from the total deposit. I just want to make sure how it's calculated. Because I feel like I've already wagered the amount equal to my total deposit, but when I tried to withdraw the progress still wasn't at 100%.

Casinos usually calculate this automatically, and 1x is not very high, but it would be good if a representative could clarify this.

According to the representative:

All the rules are here in the help centre.

5x basic rollover is required on your deposit IF you want to withdraw money from no deposit bonus out AND you have NEVER EVER made a deposit before.

https://help.2up.org/en/articles/12264449-no-deposit-bonus-no-deposit-free-spins-withdrawal-rules

So for example, under a promotion you get 20$, you played or you didn't play (depending on if there is rollover for the bonus) and lets say you now have 30$. You want to withdraw this 30$ freebie. You need to deposit 30$ and that 30$ needs to go through 5x basic rollover.

It is essentially depositing money and clearing 5x on 4% which is 20% edge to get back more of your money to demonstrate that you are a real player and willing to deposit.

This 5x can easily be abused because out of 100 players that get no deposit bonuses there will inevitable be some that have money left after playing eg 50 players, suppose these 50 players all have 20$ each, they will deposit 20$ and be required to wager 100$ to be able to withdraw. Simple calculation 100$ x 4% (edge) = 4$ theoretical loss, but the player can withdraw 36$ theoretically. So it is like paying 20$ to extract out 36$. There is of course risk, you could lose it all or win more but we are talking theoretical long term things. For casino this is negative value but its a promo. If we don't set these rules then we will not be able to offer anything to real players because we just get super abused. When we put limits in place we hope that these 20$ no deposit bonuses arrive at real players hands to experience the site, simple as that. Its a good deal to deposit the same amount and rollover 5x. Under normal FTD welcome bonus on stake shuffle rainbet or any other site including 2UP, you can expect 35x to 40x rollover on deposit + bonus with a plethora of restrictions.

So if you required to wager 5x for a deposit to extract a no deposit bonus this is really good risk and good deal to take. We allow the abuse because it is limited and controlled and not open to everyone but if you don't like the 5x rollover to get your no deposit bonus out then simply don't deposit and play with your bonus money for fun, imagine you make it to 1K, would you deposit 1K and wager 5x to be able to withdraw? It is up to you.


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On the other hand:

If you make a NORMAL deposit using crypto, the basic rollover is 1x on 4% edge. The rules are here:

https://help.2up.org/en/articles/12707779-basic-rollover

So for example, you deposit 20$, you spin a 4% slots, you need to wager 20$ before you can withdraw. If you wager on a 1% original game you need to wager 80$ before you can withdraw.

If you deposit Fiat you can check the fiat multipliers because fiat is very expensive and problematic (usually don't apply to people here)

https://help.2up.org/en/articles/11462493-supported-fiat-currencies

[memehunter]

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[gunhell16]

That is why everyone trusts the casino sites on this forum, especially those sites with very active and positive discussions. And to take advantage of these things, new casino sites are constantly coming to this forum and promoting themselves. I have not gambled on any site outside this forum so far. Because I cannot trust those sites that are not on this forum and those sites that do not have positive discussions on Ann. The positive discussions here are not just feedback, they are a great asset for casino sites.

There are more forums and casino communities but this Bitcoin forum is like a biggest hub for online casino advertisement through signature campaigns. There are many types of marketing but if talking about signature campaigns, this forum is a best choice for cryptocurrency casinos.

This forum has been built up and operated by very well-minded people as the forum founders, head admins for a long time. With its decentralized trust and feedback system, the forum has good decentralized contributions from forum community to detect and fight against scammers. In other words, this forum gives online cryptocurrency casinos great opportunities to shill their brands here but these companies must be very professional as their brands can be affected if their operations are not good. Users and community members will figure out it soon and bad companies will have their reputation damaged here.

It's true that this site is really different from other casino related forums, so I kind of agree with what you're saying, dude. You can truly sense the presence of seasoned gamblers
who have been in this business for a long time; you can learn from their experiences and, as a gambler, you can acquire important things whether you are losing all the time or others
are winning large.

Additionally, casinos that participate in this forum give other members of the community possibilities, particularly through the campaigns they run,
which are managed by our esteemed managers, to be honest.

[mirakal]

It's true that this site is really different from other casino related forums, so I kind of agree with what you're saying, dude.

It’s very different, because what we’re talking about here is not just gambling in general, it’s specifically crypto gambling. And when it comes to that, the best forum is still Bitcointalk, since it was founded by Satoshi Nakamoto, the same person who created Bitcoin in the first place.

So in a way, crypto exists because of him, and it just feels right that we’re still here, posting and discussing in the home he built.

[avp2306]

It's true that this site is really different from other casino related forums, so I kind of agree with what you're saying, dude.

It’s very different, because what we’re talking about here is not just gambling in general, it’s specifically crypto gambling. And when it comes to that, the best forum is still Bitcointalk, since it was founded by Satoshi Nakamoto, the same person who created Bitcoin in the first place.

So in a way, crypto exists because of him, and it just feels right that we’re still here, posting and discussing in the home he built.

The difference is there are lots of people visiting in this forum, while other crypto or gambling related forum only get less traffics. This is the reason why majority of casino owners choose to market their casino because they provably know that they can able to get lots of legitimate crypto gamblers here in this platform.

Many casino owner take advantage on the popularity of this place that's why this is prime destination to go if they want to launch their business. If they remain consistent for running those promotion the same with well establish crypto gambling sites here there's big chance that they can replicate their popularity here.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

The difference is there are lots of people visiting in this forum, while other crypto or gambling related forum only get less traffics. This is the reason why majority of casino owners choose to market their casino because they provably know that they can able to get lots of legitimate crypto gamblers here in this platform.

Many casino owner take advantage on the popularity of this place that's why this is prime destination to go if they want to launch their business. If they remain consistent for running those promotion the same with well establish crypto gambling sites here there's big chance that they can replicate their popularity here.

There are several reasons, as the forum is very big in traffic and it's Bitcoin, cryptocurrency friendly that matches very well with modern online casinos. This is time for online casinos to accept Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies for their business operations, attraction with gamblers, and for the covenience as well as benefits of users. So if an online casino want some kind of marketing online, this forum is one of their most favorite places.

If they want to do advertisements in forum channel, this forum is surely their best choice among many options with different other forums. Bitcoin forum is a biggest one for cryptocurrency community and it's a best place for online casinos doing their advertisement through signature campaigns.

[pusaka]

It's true that this site is really different from other casino related forums, so I kind of agree with what you're saying, dude.

It’s very different, because what we’re talking about here is not just gambling in general, it’s specifically crypto gambling. And when it comes to that, the best forum is still Bitcointalk, since it was founded by Satoshi Nakamoto, the same person who created Bitcoin in the first place.

So in a way, crypto exists because of him, and it just feels right that we’re still here, posting and discussing in the home he built.

The difference is there are lots of people visiting in this forum, while other crypto or gambling related forum only get less traffics. This is the reason why majority of casino owners choose to market their casino because they provably know that they can able to get lots of legitimate crypto gamblers here in this platform.

Many casino owner take advantage on the popularity of this place that's why this is prime destination to go if they want to launch their business. If they remain consistent for running those promotion the same with well establish crypto gambling sites here there's big chance that they can replicate their popularity here.

Other than that any casino that comes to this forum will get the same treatment, we will say and judge objectively about our experience when playing at a casino that comes here. We will also say whether the casino is a scam or not and even if the casino continues to run campaigns on this forum, but when the casino is proven to be scamming many users, it will not be accepted and even campaign participants will get a red mark for promoting scam casinos.

From the user's perspective, we can be comfortable because we can know which casinos to visit and which ones not to. From the casino's side, it should also be good because they get an objective assessment.

[mirakal]

Many casino owner take advantage on the popularity of this place that's why this is prime destination to go if they want to launch their business. If they remain consistent for running those promotion the same with well establish crypto gambling sites here there's big chance that they can replicate their popularity here.

And those who run signature campaigns here should already have enough budget, because results don’t really show in the short term. Most of the successful casinos have been running campaigns for over a year now, and they understand the value of staying visible. If they suddenly stop, it’s a big risk, because they can easily lose users while newer casinos become popular just by being active here. Popularity really matters in this space, and once you disappear, people move on fast, even if the casino itself has been popular for a long time.

[Davidvictorson]

And those who run signature campaigns here should already have enough budget, because results don’t really show in the short term. Most of the successful casinos have been running campaigns for over a year now, and they understand the value of staying visible. If they suddenly stop, it’s a big risk, because they can easily lose users while newer casinos become popular just by being active here. Popularity really matters in this space, and once you disappear, people move on fast, even if the casino itself has been popular for a long time.

And understand and do agree with you however may I also point out that while it may be the desire of these casinos to stay for longer here other factors are also at play. For example, their marketing budget, their KPIs, and others. If their marketing budget is small due to many reasons, they have no other option than to pull out and if their promotional campaign here isn’t hitting their KPIs they may also have to pull the strings and explore other options. Therefore disappearance here doesn’t mean they are still visible on the other platforms that are meeting their KPIs. I don’t know how this is calculated but this is just my reasoning.

[Woodie]

And those who run signature campaigns here should already have enough budget, because results don’t really show in the short term. Most of the successful casinos have been running campaigns for over a year now, and they understand the value of staying visible. If they suddenly stop, it’s a big risk, because they can easily lose users while newer casinos become popular just by being active here. Popularity really matters in this space, and once you disappear, people move on fast, even if the casino itself has been popular for a long time.

And understand and do agree with you however may I also point out that while it may be the desire of these casinos to stay for longer here other factors are also at play. For example, their marketing budget, their KPIs, and others. If their marketing budget is small due to many reasons, they have no other option than to pull out and if their promotional campaign here isn’t hitting their KPIs they may also have to pull the strings and explore other options. Therefore disappearance here doesn’t mean they are still visible on the other platforms that are meeting their KPIs. I don’t know how this is calculated but this is just my reasoning.

And the Bitcointalk model tends to reward those casinos that stick around longer as they paint a picture of stability and players flock to these long standing platforms as they build trust with this community.. but when the project or company is in a hurry to do things, it might look like the marketing isn't working & pulls out, but truth be told forum marketing does work 💯.

[gunhell16]

The difference is there are lots of people visiting in this forum, while other crypto or gambling related forum only get less traffics. This is the reason why majority of casino owners choose to market their casino because they provably know that they can able to get lots of legitimate crypto gamblers here in this platform.

Many casino owner take advantage on the popularity of this place that's why this is prime destination to go if they want to launch their business. If they remain consistent for running those promotion the same with well establish crypto gambling sites here there's big chance that they can replicate their popularity here.

There are several reasons, as the forum is very big in traffic and it's Bitcoin, cryptocurrency friendly that matches very well with modern online casinos. This is time for online casinos to accept Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies for their business operations, attraction with gamblers, and for the covenience as well as benefits of users. So if an online casino want some kind of marketing online, this forum is one of their most favorite places.

If they want to do advertisements in forum channel, this forum is surely their best choice among many options with different other forums. Bitcoin forum is a biggest one for cryptocurrency community and it's a best place for online casinos doing their advertisement through signature campaigns.

This forum truly stands out from the others, despite the fact that I've visited a lot of them. Almost everything you need to know or find is already here, making it incredibly comprehensive, especially when it comes to Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies.

There's no doubting that the gambling community is also rather sizable. Because of the enormous volume of gambling activity on this platform, which indicates that there is a sizable
audience that truly enjoys playing, so many casinos are drawn to it.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

This forum truly stands out from the others, despite the fact that I've visited a lot of them. Almost everything you need to know or find is already here, making it incredibly comprehensive, especially when it comes to Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies.

There's no doubting that the gambling community is also rather sizable. Because of the enormous volume of gambling activity on this platform, which indicates that there is a sizable
audience that truly enjoys playing, so many casinos are drawn to it.

There are reasons for casinos, online gambling companies to choose this forum as their favorite place for general advertisement in announcement threads, contests and in particular with signature campaigns through bbcode signatures that are like Bitcointalk forum uniqueness. BBcode for signatures are available at other forums as well but I see this forum has best programming and visual of BBcode signatures in signature spaces.

Generally all casinos can take a look at this guide.
How to Advertise Your Casino on BitcoinTalk.org