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[BABY SHOES]

Tonight the Premier League and Serie A play almost at the same time... Let's do a parlay bet from the previous 2UP contest prize.

Parlays are challenging, we're here looking for luck again. Lol if you win we are happy, if you lose just forget it don't get sad... this is considered free money.

[gunhell16]

But if they playing gambling very often and don't want to have trouble, reading TOS is necessary. They must makes sure knowing the rules before depositing.

If someone really plans to make a large deposit at a casino they have just seen and have finished creating an account, it is indeed important to read the terms and conditions thoroughly. But most gamblers make small deposits to try out a casino they have just become familiar with, trying out the games and some features first. If it feels safe, the gambler can increase the deposit to play with larger amounts. When everything goes smoothly, that is what makes gamblers neglect reading the full terms and conditions set by the casino.

Some gamblers who want to try a new casino may overlook the most important part such as reading the terms and conditions. They tend to make small deposits to try out the casino atmosphere and games, and if they feel comfortable, they may increase their deposit amount to play with bigger bets. Personally, I would not miss this important point, the terms and conditions need to be read thoroughly because I think it is very important to understand the rules of the game, how to get bonuses (if available), betting limits and withdrawals as set.

You're definitely right on this one, dude. Some players really start by depositing small amounts first. Once they’ve explored the site and feel comfortable with it, that’s when they decide to make a much larger deposit.

Though there are still gamblers who prefer to stick to a fixed budget. But before making that big move on the second deposit, I guess that’s the time they finally bother to read the Terms of Service (TOS) of the casino they’re exploring.

[coolcoinz]

But honestly, even if you do read the TOS, there are still rules where your interpretation can be different from the casino’s.
And in the end, their interpretation is what matters.

That's true but by reading you can ask for customer support about terms you are unclear. It's still very better than don't know about any terms, the vague terms and take very high risk for your account and money.

It sounds much simpler than it really is. Say you have x number of pages of ToS to go through. You're not going to make a lost of points you're uncertain about. Nobody does that because most people even if they read ToS just scan the text, go through it as fast as they can and proceed to the site. If they really want to interpret things their own way they can. A great example of this is the situation where a casino wrote in their ToS that they can reject KYC application if they find it unsuitable, which eventually gave them the right to steal player's money. They'd simply ask for KYC when players won and wanted to withdraw. When they sent their documents the casino would claim the documents don't look genuine, or that the picture quality isn't good enough.

[Davidvictorson]

That's true but by reading you can ask for customer support about terms you are unclear. It's still very better than don't know about any terms, the vague terms and take very high risk for your account and money.

I agree. I think that gamblers have more resources now than ever before. I mean these resources are available to them to exploit in asking or seeking clarification for some casino TOS section. Aside the customer support which is great by the way, there are online forums for gamblers where they can also explain and we now how artificial intelligence systems that with the proper prompt the vague terms will be broken down to its tiniest form for understanding.

[stadus]

That's true but by reading you can ask for customer support about terms you are unclear. It's still very better than don't know about any terms, the vague terms and take very high risk for your account and money.

I agree. I think that gamblers have more resources now than ever before. I mean these resources are available to them to exploit in asking or seeking clarification for some casino TOS section. Aside the customer support which is great by the way, there are online forums for gamblers where they can also explain and we now how artificial intelligence systems that with the proper prompt the vague terms will be broken down to its tiniest form for understanding.

Do all casinos actually have active online support?
Because if you’re gambling on a site where support takes hours to reply, that’s just frustrating, especially when it’s something important.

I really think proper live support should be standard. Issues need quick answers. If a casino doesn’t have real support or just relies on AI replies, that doesn’t really help when you’re trying to get a clear answer fast.

[Davidvictorson]

Do all casinos actually have active online support?
Because if you’re gambling on a site where support takes hours to reply, that’s just frustrating, especially when it’s something important.

I really think proper live support should be standard. Issues need quick answers. If a casino doesn’t have real support or just relies on AI replies, that doesn’t really help when you’re trying to get a clear answer fast.

Live support for casinos is a must. Some of them have an email option and some others even utilize a forum feature on their website but this is becoming very rare. I also know that the newer ones have discord, Telegram, X, and other social media channels. So a player has multiple options to get through to them. Only an uncompetitive casino that doesn’t care for their players will delay or completely ignore a player’s inquiries.

[Strongkored]

Do all casinos actually have active online support?
Because if you’re gambling on a site where support takes hours to reply, that’s just frustrating, especially when it’s something important.

I really think proper live support should be standard. Issues need quick answers. If a casino doesn’t have real support or just relies on AI replies, that doesn’t really help when you’re trying to get a clear answer fast.

Live support for casinos is a must. Some of them have an email option and some others even utilize a forum feature on their website but this is becoming very rare. I also know that the newer ones have discord, Telegram, X, and other social media channels. So a player has multiple options to get through to them. Only an uncompetitive casino that doesn’t care for their players will delay or completely ignore a player’s inquiries.

Yes, casinos that believe their users must be served quickly will have many options for their users to reach them when facing issues or important questions.
I prefer chatting directly with their live agent rather than reaching out on social media because usually solutions or answers can be obtained more quickly there.
However, sometimes not all questions can be answered by the live agent, which can make players uncomfortable, for example, regarding withdrawals, as usually there is a specific department that will handle them.

[Mandoy]

Do all casinos actually have active online support?
Because if you’re gambling on a site where support takes hours to reply, that’s just frustrating, especially when it’s something important.

I really think proper live support should be standard. Issues need quick answers. If a casino doesn’t have real support or just relies on AI replies, that doesn’t really help when you’re trying to get a clear answer fast.

Live support for casinos is a must. Some of them have an email option and some others even utilize a forum feature on their website but this is becoming very rare. I also know that the newer ones have discord, Telegram, X, and other social media channels. So a player has multiple options to get through to them. Only an uncompetitive casino that doesn’t care for their players will delay or completely ignore a player’s inquiries.

Totally agree, stadus. Live customer care is required, particularly with withdrawals, deposits or bonus distributions. It is extremely irritating to wait hours or even days to reply to email. This is being enhanced by casinos such as 2UP.io using various platforms such as Discord, Telegram and social media where players have fast means of receiving assistance. Email and forums are permissible, but not the only ones. Any casino that takes unfathomable amounts of time to respond or act on enquiries is not taking players seriously.

[gaynellehalsey]

Guys if you want to deposit at 2up.io, then definitely read their terms and conditions carefully and make the deposit.

I made a deposit here a few months ago because I saw that KYC is not required here. After seeing many of their posts about KYC, I thought that since they have relaxed the KYC requirements according to the user in the forum, maybe I can gamble here peacefully. Thinking of this, I made a deposit and kept playing. But today, when I made a withdrawal, I saw that the withdrawal was not happening; it was pending for some time, and then it was canceled

Later, after reading the terms and conditions, I realized that if you make a deposit, this deposit requires x5 rollover before withdrawal is allowed. If I talk about other casinos, I play at Rainbet. There is no such rollover rule here; you can make a hassle free deposit and withdraw, no rollover is required.

Regards,
Duke

Guys if you want to deposit at 2up.io, then definitely read their terms and conditions carefully and make the deposit.

I made a deposit here a few months ago because I saw that KYC is not required here. After seeing many of their posts about KYC, I thought that since they have relaxed the KYC requirements according to the user in the forum, maybe I can gamble here peacefully. Thinking of this, I made a deposit and kept playing. But today, when I made a withdrawal, I saw that the withdrawal was not happening; it was pending for some time, and then it was canceled

Later, after reading the terms and conditions, I realized that if you make a deposit, this deposit requires x5 rollover before withdrawal is allowed. If I talk about other casinos, I play at Rainbet. There is no such rollover rule here; you can make a hassle free deposit and withdraw, no rollover is required.

Regards,
Duke

I haven't experienced withdrawing from 2UP yet because, honestly, I usually end up losing when I play there lately. Other players might not be aware that there’s a 5x times rollover requirement before they can actually complete a withdrawal transaction.

For high rollers, reaching that limit is easy, but for casual players like me, it's quite a challenge. Since I only play occasionally and have a limited budget, a 5× rollover is still a significant amount to clear.

All the rules are here in the help centre.

5x basic rollover is required on your deposit IF you want to withdraw money from no deposit bonus out AND you have NEVER EVER made a deposit before.

https://help.2up.org/en/articles/12264449-no-deposit-bonus-no-deposit-free-spins-withdrawal-rules

So for example, under a promotion you get 20$, you played or you didn't play (depending on if there is rollover for the bonus) and lets say you now have 30$. You want to withdraw this 30$ freebie. You need to deposit 30$ and that 30$ needs to go through 5x basic rollover.

It is essentially depositing money and clearing 5x on 4% which is 20% edge to get back more of your money to demonstrate that you are a real player and willing to deposit.

This 5x can easily be abused because out of 100 players that get no deposit bonuses there will inevitable be some that have money left after playing eg 50 players, suppose these 50 players all have 20$ each, they will deposit 20$ and be required to wager 100$ to be able to withdraw. Simple calculation 100$ x 4% (edge) = 4$ theoretical loss, but the player can withdraw 36$ theoretically. So it is like paying 20$ to extract out 36$. There is of course risk, you could lose it all or win more but we are talking theoretical long term things. For casino this is negative value but its a promo. If we don't set these rules then we will not be able to offer anything to real players because we just get super abused. When we put limits in place we hope that these 20$ no deposit bonuses arrive at real players hands to experience the site, simple as that. Its a good deal to deposit the same amount and rollover 5x. Under normal FTD welcome bonus on stake shuffle rainbet or any other site including 2UP, you can expect 35x to 40x rollover on deposit + bonus with a plethora of restrictions.

So if you required to wager 5x for a deposit to extract a no deposit bonus this is really good risk and good deal to take. We allow the abuse because it is limited and controlled and not open to everyone but if you don't like the 5x rollover to get your no deposit bonus out then simply don't deposit and play with your bonus money for fun, imagine you make it to 1K, would you deposit 1K and wager 5x to be able to withdraw? It is up to you.


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On the other hand:

If you make a NORMAL deposit using crypto, the basic rollover is 1x on 4% edge. The rules are here:

https://help.2up.org/en/articles/12707779-basic-rollover

So for example, you deposit 20$, you spin a 4% slots, you need to wager 20$ before you can withdraw. If you wager on a 1% original game you need to wager 80$ before you can withdraw.

If you deposit Fiat you can check the fiat multipliers because fiat is very expensive and problematic (usually don't apply to people here)

https://help.2up.org/en/articles/11462493-supported-fiat-currencies

Are you deliberately not reading my messages?

[maydna]

~snip~

You mentioned this before, but am I understanding it right that you’re only treating it as advice and not something you actually do yourself?
No offense meant, I’d honestly salute you if you really read the TOS, because in reality, probably 90% of gamblers, at least based on my own guess, don’t read it at all.

You can see that as advice and something you do yourself, you decide it. I read the TOS but sometimes I am too lazy to read it. I am just human and not read the TOS from all casinos is common. At least, I know what I should do

That depends on themselves. But I agree that 90% of gamblers don't read it at all so you can choose by yourself.

~snip~

Hmm… so have you actually read the full TOS of any casino you’re playing on? 

Not any but some. But I have laziness that comes to me anytime. If that so, I might not read all of the TOS but only search for the important thing based on me.

~snip~

Your thinking is very realistic and responsible, especially not depositing more money than you can afford. This is the most important thing in online casinos or any kind of financial transaction when you don't want to read the TOS due to laziness, you can follow this method to protect yourself, which can save you from big problems in the future by spending a little time reading the TOS. If you deposit 100 taka and get a bonus, it is written here money you have to play before withdrawing it. Also if you play with a small amount even if you lose it will not affect your daily life which is the key to responsible gaming.

You should know what is good for you and not spends too much money.

You read TOS to understand the rules and to avoid mistakes. But you can protects yourself by limiting the money and discipline on that so you will not just waste the money.

You only want to have fun in gambling and using the money you can afford to lose so you don't thinking much if you are losing money.

[gunhell16]

Do all casinos actually have active online support?
Because if you’re gambling on a site where support takes hours to reply, that’s just frustrating, especially when it’s something important.

I really think proper live support should be standard. Issues need quick answers. If a casino doesn’t have real support or just relies on AI replies, that doesn’t really help when you’re trying to get a clear answer fast.

Live support for casinos is a must. Some of them have an email option and some others even utilize a forum feature on their website but this is becoming very rare. I also know that the newer ones have discord, Telegram, X, and other social media channels. So a player has multiple options to get through to them. Only an uncompetitive casino that doesn’t care for their players will delay or completely ignore a player’s inquiries.

Totally agree, stadus. Live customer care is required, particularly with withdrawals, deposits or bonus distributions. It is extremely irritating to wait hours or even days to reply to email. This is being enhanced by casinos such as 2UP.io using various platforms such as Discord, Telegram and social media where players have fast means of receiving assistance. Email and forums are permissible, but not the only ones. Any casino that takes unfathomable amounts of time to respond or act on enquiries is not taking players seriously.

All casinos should ideally have several official channels so that users in the crypto gambling business know exactly where to find them. This is why I completely agree with your point.

I don't think 2up will overlook this, especially since we know they are still relatively fresh on this forum platform. We can already see their efforts to improve their casino within the crypto industry. I just hope the gambling community doesn't become over-judgmental during this stage.

[hd49728]

All casinos should ideally have several official channels so that users in the crypto gambling business know exactly where to find them. This is why I completely agree with your point.

I don't think 2up will overlook this, especially since we know they are still relatively fresh on this forum platform. We can already see their efforts to improve their casino within the crypto industry. I just hope the gambling community doesn't become over-judgmental during this stage.

They can advertise their business at different media channels which are wider than where they provide customer support for their users. It's different tasks from marketing, brand exposure, customer expansion to customer support.

With any company, the official and main customer support channel is at their website, that can be from a support ticket, chat, email and so on, starting from their websites. Other channels for customer support should be considered as additional channels, not main ones.

Some companies have support in Discord, Telegram and others but it's more like a middle customer support channels which will forward customer's support request to their website, open a support ticket, and the support team will handle it.

[Questat]

Some companies have support in Discord, Telegram and others but it's more like a middle customer support channels which will forward customer's support request to their website, open a support ticket, and the support team will handle it.

I could probably use this too, even though I’m already aware of these apps since I have Telegram myself. I just don’t really use it much for communication.

If I need to contact support, I’d still prefer doing it directly from their website. At least there, I know I’m talking to official support. And if needed, I can always share the concern in the forum, especially if their reply is meant to be an official statement.

It’s fine to have multiple channels, but the main ones should really be the focus.

[lionheart78]

Do all casinos actually have active online support?
Because if you’re gambling on a site where support takes hours to reply, that’s just frustrating, especially when it’s something important.

Not all casinos have active online support, some of them even let a Bot manage the inquiries and issues. They just give us an FAQ and a support ticket.  And yes, it is very frustrating, especially if we have the need for an immediate answer.  So I highly appreciate casinos with 24/7 active person custmer support.

I really think proper live support should be standard. Issues need quick answers. If a casino doesn’t have real support or just relies on AI replies, that doesn’t really help when you’re trying to get a clear answer fast.

I am with you, online casinos should invest on live support people.  This will not only give satisfaction for the player, it is also one of the reasons why players stay on the platform.  With live support, people might feel the warmth of the Casino's sincere care to their players.

[Sanitough]

Not all casinos have active online support, some of them even let a Bot manage the inquiries and issues. They just give us an FAQ and a support ticket.  And yes, it is very frustrating, especially if we have the need for an immediate answer.  So I highly appreciate casinos with 24/7 active person custmer support.

That’s right, it really feels disrespectful, especially when the replies are clearly coming from AI with canned, formatted answers. It gets frustrating when the issue needs an immediate fix, but instead you feel like you’re answering some quiz from an AI bot. I don’t think AI should be used for serious issues like this. It’s fine for FAQs, but real problems should be handled by real support. Casinos should understand that keeping gamblers satisfied matters, repeat players are where they actually make their money.

[khaled0111]

I am with you, online casinos should invest on live support people.  This will not only give satisfaction for the player, it is also one of the reasons why players stay on the platform.  With live support, people might feel the warmth of the Casino's sincere care to their players.

I agree with this and it applies to all service providers and not just casinos. When a customer uses a service knowing that customer support (and I'm talking about human agents and not bots or ai agents) is available around the clock and ready to help/assist him with his issues or concerns will make him feel safe.
Also, paying customer support agents to work 24/7 costs a lot of money and not all services can afford it or are interested in investing in it. So when you find a company that offers it, you will know that they care about their customers which helps build trust.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Do all casinos actually have active online support?
Because if you’re gambling on a site where support takes hours to reply, that’s just frustrating, especially when it’s something important.

Not all casinos have active online support <...>

That’s right, it really feels disrespectful, especially when the replies are clearly coming from AI with canned, formatted answers. It gets frustrating when the issue needs an immediate fix, but instead you feel like you’re answering some quiz from an AI bot. I don’t think AI should be used for serious issues like this. It’s fine for FAQs, but real problems should be handled by real support. Casinos should understand that keeping gamblers satisfied matters, repeat players are where they actually make their money.

I agree with this and it applies to all service providers and not just casinos. When a customer uses a service knowing that customer support (and I'm talking about human agents and not bots or ai agents) is available around the clock and ready to help/assist him with his issues or concerns will make him feel safe.
Also, paying customer support agents to work 24/7 costs a lot of money and not all services can afford it or are interested in investing in it. So when you find a company that offers it, you will know that they care about their customers which helps build trust.

So, what is this about? 2UP.io has human support that responds instantly, as I have verified myself and mentioned a few pages back.

I understand that in long threads the conversation can derive but continuing a conversation about the lack of human and quick support in casinos, in a thread about a casino that does have that support, seems rather generic conversation that has little to do with the thread, so off topic.

[lionheart78]

So, what is this about? 2UP.io has human support that responds instantly, as I have verified myself and mentioned a few pages back.

I understand that in long threads the conversation can derive but continuing a conversation about the lack of human and quick support in casinos, in a thread about a casino that does have that support, seems rather generic conversation that has little to do with the thread, so off topic.

How can it be to be little to do with the thread? Is it not good to discuss the platform services? And it is a good thing that you confirmed that the platform has human support. We are discussing the importance of it, letting readers know that when they experience issues, they can get easily taken care of by the human support staff deployed by the 2up.io casino.  Never underestimate discussions about the platform services. If the discussion gives positive feedback, this can sway readers who look for this feature to play on the platform.

As you also stated about your confirmation of the human support service has been buried by pages of replies. Isn't it good to re-emphasize this good service offered by 2up.io?

[pawel7777]

A quick bug report - the search option in Sports betting section doesn't seem to be working at all. I tried "Barcelona" initially with nothing found, then I tried multiple other keywords but are still getting nothing for any of them.
You could still search manually for desired events, e.g. in Recommended matches/Popular etc, but those not familiar with the issue could be led to think the event they're looking for is not supported, so it's probably worth to get that fixed.

[gunhell16]

Do all casinos actually have active online support?
Because if you’re gambling on a site where support takes hours to reply, that’s just frustrating, especially when it’s something important.

Not all casinos have active online support, some of them even let a Bot manage the inquiries and issues. They just give us an FAQ and a support ticket.  And yes, it is very frustrating, especially if we have the need for an immediate answer.  So I highly appreciate casinos with 24/7 active person custmer support.

I really think proper live support should be standard. Issues need quick answers. If a casino doesn’t have real support or just relies on AI replies, that doesn’t really help when you’re trying to get a clear answer fast.

I am with you, online casinos should invest on live support people.  This will not only give satisfaction for the player, it is also one of the reasons why players stay on the platform.  With live support, people might feel the warmth of the Casino's sincere care to their players

Honestly speaking, I’ve also noticed that some crypto casinos rely heavily on programmed bots for their support. It’s frustrating because a bot can’t provide the right solutions for the specific issues a user is facing.

So far, I haven't experienced this with 2UP because I haven't had a reason to ask them anything yet; I’m currently just enjoying the games. I agree that casinos shouldn't cut corners or hesitate to spend on quality support; it's essential for boosting and maintaining their reputation.