🔸 SageSwap.io - Fast Crypto Swap 🔸 Escrow $3000 🔸 NO KYC/AML!

[Trêvoid]

Read more: https://trevoid.com/threads/sageswap-private-monero-bitcoin-exchange-no-javascript-no-kyc.29/post-51

Best regards,
— Trêvoid

It is good to see that you are expanding the scope of your services.
But are the conditions here the same as in your similar deals?
This $1k is a guarantee only for swap orders that go through you as an intermediary?

Our active intermediary is the same for all services that provided security deposits.

[SageSwap]

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SageSwap - Development Update
Date: 13/06/2026
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Hey,

We're back with another update and a couple of improvements we've been working on recently!

Fixed Rate is finally here:

One of the most requested features has now been added to SageSwap.

You no longer need to worry about market fluctuations affecting your rate while your transaction is being processed.

Our Fixed Rate option offers a fair and competitive rate for users who want extra protection against volatility and more certainty during swaps.

Performance improvements:
- We've made several optimizations to our transaction system and exchange rates.
- Swaps should now process a bit smoother, while providing better overall performance across the platform.

Bug fixes & changes:

Fixed issues related to the affiliate system
Resolved multiple smaller bugs reported by users
Various backend and stability improvements
General cleanup and quality of life changes

More coins coming soon:

Several new coins and networks will be added to SageSwap later next week.

Stay tuned for the next update!

That's all for now!

Thank you for using SageSwap.
We really appreciate your support and hope to see you back soon!

[cLoazyL]

Read more: https://trevoid.com/threads/sageswap-private-monero-bitcoin-exchange-no-javascript-no-kyc.29/post-51

Best regards,
— Trêvoid

It is good to see that you are expanding the scope of your services.
But are the conditions here the same as in your similar deals?
This $1k is a guarantee only for swap orders that go through you as an intermediary?

Our active intermediary is the same for all services that provided security deposits.

you wanna do mini forum from this trevoid com or what?

[SamReomo]

More coins coming soon:

Several new coins and networks will be added to SageSwap later next week.

Good to hear that many members of the forum want to see more coins at SageSwap and in a week they'll see many of the coins that they like to have on an exchange like SageSwap. I hear someone who asked for ADA a few weeks ago can be expect a coin like ADA Cardano to be added to a platform like SageSwap in future updates. To be honest, we already have many coins available at the platform but it'll be helpful for the ones who want to swap to such coins.

[ovcijisir]

Yesterday I made a few small exchanges and did AML check on them after the exchange. Unfortunately I got some BTC with pretty bad AML score. We discussed before that Sageswap returns clean coins with AML score risk not greater than 30% if I remember correctly.

But yesterday I got two pretty risky returns. One was with coins that has 5% of the coins from dark markets, and other ones that has 9% of coins from mixer services. I'm afraod that those funds would be probably locked if I send them to CEX.

I had pretty good experiences with this service before, so I was surprised to get back coins with so high AML risk.

Edit. I got response from customer support on Telegram with much bettet grade of AML risk. Thank you for fast response on TG!

Btw. I am still surprised how different services can have so vastly different AML score for the same coins.

[hugeblack]

But yesterday I got two pretty risky returns. One was with coins that has 5% of the coins from dark markets, and other ones that has 9% of coins from mixer services. I'm afraod that those funds would be probably locked if I send them to CEX.

5% and 9% aren't a problem, but these platforms can freeze your coins even if they're 100% clean, so there's no guarantee here.

Generally, try to avoid depositing Bitcoin (to CEXes) and deposit USDT or another pair instead, as the probability of such tokens being frozen is low.

[internetional]

Btw. I am still surprised how different services can have so vastly different AML score for the same coins.

I believe we should simply stop paying attention to AML. There are services that openly state they do not participate in this cryptocurrency seizure scheme. Send traceable crypto only to them, and ignore the rest. Then you won't have to worry about scores being low in one AML checker and high in another.

[examplens]

Yesterday I made a few small exchanges and did AML check on them after the exchange. Unfortunately I got some BTC with pretty bad AML score. We discussed before that Sageswap returns clean coins with AML score risk not greater than 30% if I remember correctly.

But yesterday I got two pretty risky returns. One was with coins that has 5% of the coins from dark markets, and other ones that has 9% of coins from mixer services. I'm afraod that those funds would be probably locked if I send them to CEX.

If you think in the other direction, you will see that it is impossible to get super AML clean coins from a no-KYC exchange like Sageswap. The coins you received with high AML were sent by another user to that exchange (and he was not obliged to pass KYC). Small exchanges like Sageswap (especially those without KYC) do not have as much power as large CEXs, to produce 'clean' coins with a low AML score.

[SageSwap]

Yesterday I made a few small exchanges and did AML check on them after the exchange. Unfortunately I got some BTC with pretty bad AML score. We discussed before that Sageswap returns clean coins with AML score risk not greater than 30% if I remember correctly.

But yesterday I got two pretty risky returns. One was with coins that has 5% of the coins from dark markets, and other ones that has 9% of coins from mixer services. I'm afraod that those funds would be probably locked if I send them to CEX.

If you think in the other direction, you will see that it is impossible to get super AML clean coins from a no-KYC exchange like Sageswap. The coins you received with high AML were sent by another user to that exchange (and he was not obliged to pass KYC). Small exchanges like Sageswap (especially those without KYC) do not have as much power as large CEXs, to produce 'clean' coins with a low AML score.

I disagree with that, it depends on what you mean by “super clean"? You’ll never get coins from us that won’t go through anywhere, every order we’ve processed through SageSwap has never been held up on any exchange like Binance, MXC, or anything else.

The customer ALWAYS receives coins that they can deposit wherever they want, if someone received coins with high AML score due to a system error, they’ll get their coins swap without any additional fees.

Coins that we accept with high AML score in our special mode NEVER enter the main pool and are never sent to our customers.

[bitmover]

Coins that we accept with high AML score in our special mode NEVER enter the main pool and are never sent to our customers.

This is great to know. I though they would be mixed with others and returned back to customers.

Btw. I am still surprised how different services can have so vastly different AML score for the same coins.

I believe we should simply stop paying attention to AML. There are services that openly state they do not participate in this cryptocurrency seizure scheme. Send traceable crypto only to them, and ignore the rest. Then you won't have to worry about scores being low in one AML checker and high in another.

It is unfortunate to see that bitcoin fungibility became a thing of the past, but these are the days we are living on.

Even tough you are using services which claim they won't check the AML score, you can never be 100% sure the service won't check  your coins and even refuse them.
I have send coins which were accepted in the past, but a few weeks/months later they were refused and refunded back to me (fortunately).

It is always a good practice to check the AML of your coins before sending to anyone.

[internetional]

It is unfortunate to see that bitcoin fungibility became a thing of the past, but these are the days we are living on.

Even tough you are using services which claim they won't check the AML score, you can never be 100% sure the service won't check  your coins and even refuse them.
I have send coins which were accepted in the past, but a few weeks/months later they were refused and refunded back to me (fortunately).

It is always a good practice to check the AML of your coins before sending to anyone.

No way. I operate Bitcoin via the Lightning Network, and here every single satoshi is equal to any other satoshi and, what's more, indistinguishable. Even CEXs can't claim that the bitcoins I deposit via Lightning are somehow tainted or "wrong." And besides Lightning, there are also Bark and Tacit (though CEXs don't accept them, to be fair). So everyone can choose which reality to live in. I choose the one where bitcoins are fungible. Even on-chain, I can send them to non-AML swap services if I ever need stablecoins or something else for some reason. And once I get bitcoin back from them, I will immediately move it into a Lightning payment channel or a Bark pool, avoiding any issues with AML abuse.

[bitmover]

It is unfortunate to see that bitcoin fungibility became a thing of the past, but these are the days we are living on.

Even tough you are using services which claim they won't check the AML score, you can never be 100% sure the service won't check  your coins and even refuse them.
I have send coins which were accepted in the past, but a few weeks/months later they were refused and refunded back to me (fortunately).

It is always a good practice to check the AML of your coins before sending to anyone.

No way. I operate Bitcoin via the Lightning Network, and here every single satoshi is equal to any other satoshi and, what's more, indistinguishable. Even CEXs can't claim that the bitcoins I deposit via Lightning are somehow tainted or "wrong." And besides Lightning, there are also Bark and Tacit (though CEXs don't accept them, to be fair). So everyone can choose which reality to live in. I choose the one where bitcoins are fungible. Even on-chain, I can send them to non-AML swap services if I ever need stablecoins or something else for some reason. And once I get bitcoin back from them, I will immediately move it into a Lightning payment channel or a Bark pool, avoiding any issues with AML abuse.

Interesting, so you can send high AML score coins to your lightning channel and then send those coins to binance, for example?

Do you have your own lightning channel?
I think the problem would be to set up a channel with sufficient outbound and inbound capacity.

Unless you are talking about selling just a few bucks, like $100, this will certainly become a problem. Operate large amounts (such as 0.5 btc for example) in a lightning network channel would be complicated.

[internetional]

Inbound channel liquidity is not needed for this, and you create outbound liquidity with the channel opening transaction. In wallets like Blixt and Phoenix, such a channel opens automatically for every coin arriving on-chain.

Yes, from such channels, I safely send Bitcoins anywhere. I think SageSwap can also confirm that even if they conduct an exchange in Standard Swap mode, they cannot determine the AML risk score for Bitcoins received via the Lightning Network because their history is untraceable.

Currently, I don't have my own payment channels. I used to have them, but they were all eventually force-closed due to technical glitches. That's why I now prefer to transfer the received Bitcoins to Bark and send them anywhere from there via Lightning.

Operate large amounts (such as 0.5 btc for example) in a lightning network channel would be complicated.

I completely agree with you. My experience shows that sending even 0.1 BTC via Lightning can be very problematic.

[SageSwap]

Inbound channel liquidity is not needed for this, and you create outbound liquidity with the channel opening transaction. In wallets like Blixt and Phoenix, such a channel opens automatically for every coin arriving on-chain.

Yes, from such channels, I safely send Bitcoins anywhere. I think SageSwap can also confirm that even if they conduct an exchange in Standard Swap mode, they cannot determine the AML risk score for Bitcoins received via the Lightning Network because their history is untraceable.

Yes, that's true, we don't conduct AML checks on Lightning network, but it's a mistake to think that you'll disappear. If analytics companies do a good job, have a bit of luck, and the person who cares about anonymity messes up a bit, it's still possible to link address A to address B.

[SFR10]

Another month has passed, so here's the breakdown of the remaining escrow funds under my control:
^{- The dedicated address of SageSwap can be found on this "signed message".}

• 1% or a minimum of 0.0005BTC standard fee + a 1% storage fee for each additional month (0.0002365796 x 5 months)
  0.0005 + 0.001182898 = 0.001682898BTC ^{[escrow fee]}
  
  Total amount of 0.02365796 - escrow fee of 0.001682898 = 0.021975062BTC ^{[remaining funds in escrow (without rounding it off)]}

[Forsyth Jones]

Yesterday I made a few small exchanges and did AML check on them after the exchange. Unfortunately I got some BTC with pretty bad AML score. We discussed before that Sageswap returns clean coins with AML score risk not greater than 30% if I remember correctly.

But yesterday I got two pretty risky returns. One was with coins that has 5% of the coins from dark markets, and other ones that has 9% of coins from mixer services. I'm afraod that those funds would be probably locked if I send them to CEX.

I had pretty good experiences with this service before, so I was surprised to get back coins with so high AML risk.

Edit. I got response from customer support on Telegram with much bettet grade of AML risk. Thank you for fast response on TG!

Btw. I am still surprised how different services can have so vastly different AML score for the same coins.

I'm haven't been looking at the AML score of my coins lately, as I normally don't send BTC directly to CEXs anymore, I use services like SageSwap, swap BTC to stablecoins and have never had any problems with coins being refusal or blocking. Typically stablecoins suffer less from this.

[SamReomo]

I'm haven't been looking at the AML score of my coins lately, as I normally don't send BTC directly to CEXs anymore, I use services like SageSwap, swap BTC to stablecoins and have never had any problems with coins being refusal or blocking. Typically stablecoins suffer less from this.

That's true, stable coins and alt coins won't have AML score issue in most cases because those are mostly clean coins and no one uses those coins in any negative way. Even after using SageSwap one should first receive the swapped coins to their own personal wallets before sending those coins to exchange's wallets because that way one will never have any issue with centralized exchanges.