AI has come to make people become lazy

[Etranger]

There are many incentives and issues with the current world that are making correct and healthy behaviors difficult. The main reason people are fat does not necessarily lie on personal responsibility, sure they are mentally very weak but even if such people were given an environment where no junk food was present at all, no snacks, no added sugar to every single possible thing many of them would probably stay fit. I argue here that these AI tools are yet another example of something that will push more people in the wrong direction than the number of people it will push into the right direction, thus making it a net negative for humanity.

I think it is simply impossible, I mean, to create conditions in which a person will be completely restricted from what you have listed. Yes, within a family, one can set such rules for a child, but there is no certainty even that both parents will follow them unconditionally, let alone other family members who want to spoil the little one. And the older the child gets, the more they are influenced by the environment and the cultural industry.

Even if they don't see this in the family, they will find out about it in kindergarten, or at the very best, at school. Even if we imagine, which is highly unlikely, that they end up in a group of children whose parents share the same categorical principles, they will still find out about such things from TV, social networks, or simply by seeing the product in a store. Therefore, there is no point in discussing total bans and conditions that are impossible to create. It is better to think about developing strong willpower and a conscious understanding of certain limitations.

[Satofan44]

There are many incentives and issues with the current world that are making correct and healthy behaviors difficult. The main reason people are fat does not necessarily lie on personal responsibility, sure they are mentally very weak but even if such people were given an environment where no junk food was present at all, no snacks, no added sugar to every single possible thing many of them would probably stay fit. I argue here that these AI tools are yet another example of something that will push more people in the wrong direction than the number of people it will push into the right direction, thus making it a net negative for humanity.

I think it is simply impossible, I mean, to create conditions in which a person will be completely restricted from what you have listed. Yes, within a family, one can set such rules for a child, but there is no certainty even that both parents will follow them unconditionally, let alone other family members who want to spoil the little one. And the older the child gets, the more they are influenced by the environment and the cultural industry.

Even if they don't see this in the family, they will find out about it in kindergarten, or at the very best, at school. Even if we imagine, which is highly unlikely, that they end up in a group of children whose parents share the same categorical principles, they will still find out about such things from TV, social networks, or simply by seeing the product in a store. Therefore, there is no point in discussing total bans and conditions that are impossible to create. It is better to think about developing strong willpower and a conscious understanding of certain limitations.

You are talking about a bottom-up approach and from that perspective you are correct, but I was talking about a top-down approach which is why I used plural. I am referring to society, the governments and the world in general. If shit food was outlawed or heavily taxed, then the environment would be there in which people could thrive (in respect to food-choices and fitness). Unless you want to believe that large numbers of people would try to smuggle and risk prison over a few candy bars? Some idiots would, that is for sure but who cares about those.

What I am writing about is that we have collectively made a terrible environment for the sake of profit, whereas we could have easily taken the other way. Snacks and sodas are a great example. We could have set a maximum sugar content at 1/2 of the current contents easily, it would have been no challenge at all because the food and drinks would still be fucking sweet. Instead we let companies do mostly whatever, most of that food is as addictive as substances that are age-restricted or illegal. Do we have more people addicted to drugs or to sugary foods? It is actually to sugary foods. Actually it is not even too late now, it could be done in steps for example reduce the maximum sugar added by 10% every 5 years. This would induce a gradual adjustment of palette and sugar-addiction and over decades until we reach the desired maximum, most people would not objective because it is so gradual that it would not be noticed. But there is simply no interest in this, they want to do things that maximize profit regardless of the harm.

Similarly with AI we have the opportunity to take a balanced approach, where it would not be provided as fast as possible to as many people as possible all for the sake of profit. This is how you would take a reasonable approach and create an environment in which many people would succeed. Instead, we are going the wrong way and creating a dangerous environment in which many people will suffer negative consequences from these. As I said already early studies indicate that humans are massively losing skills in various spheres due to these tools, and this is even with restrictions on doing these studies. Often when there is a desire to lead us in one direction, you will have a hard time getting funding to show that we should not do that. We did the same with social media, studies were suppressed or their effects minimized even if you could tell from the earliest days that the damage it causes is extreme and obvious. Only recently have they started letting this into the mainstream because they want to abuse this situation to introduce digital IDs.

[Zorellian]

Normally, if you give me a computer device to do graphic design I wont be able to perform it better but with AI it was success. Since AI can give me good graphic design, I dont think it will have that urge to go learn graphic design.  I think AI already have the result of what people are supposed to do with their hands. There wont be reason to learn or to work because AI can give people what they want without stress.

We live in a time of technological sophistication and people will undoubtedly seek ways to make their work easier and the presence of AI is being utilized well by some to assist them. Laziness may have nothing to do with AI because even though AI is quite sophisticated, many people still don't do manual work. AI should be able to assist someone in their work, although it has its own weaknesses that need to be considered. AI can handle almost all human tasks, but not all of them can be done correctly. AI is a sophisticated technology and when someone can utilize it well, I don't think it constitutes laziness.

It we Nigerias that see the laziness that AI will bring to us but I don’t think it will effect us that much, I know that he has is own disadvantage in but life now is not like old days that people must work so hard, this generation now is all about genze and making things easier for each other. I didn’t see any problem that they bring AI into the world and making things easier for the people.
And you can still look at it by not spending so much if you have AI that will do things for you and not disturbing people or trying to pay them when you’ve AI already.

[iamsange]

Technology is like that. If you use technology to make yourself lazy, it will help you far too much and you will literally turn into a koala  But if you use technology to make your life easier and to enhance your life's adventure, then you will truly see its real benefit.

This still depends on each individual, because if you are inherently lazy, then without using anything, you will eventually become lazy. Everyone already knows that technology is there to make work easier and also to help complete more tasks that are considered difficult by everyone. However, users of technology themselves should not be lazy, because any technology must be operated correctly if we want to see maximum results from our work. So, whatever the object or tool, no one should become lazy just because of a tool like technology.

[OgNasty]

Technology has a way of making people lazy I guess...  I can't help but think that all these kids riding around on electric bikes are hurting themselves so much in the long run.  I peddled or walked everywhere as a kid.  Several miles a day for sure.

It is no wonder aliens (greys anyway) are always these skinny big eyed looking weak creatures.  That's probably how we'll end up if everyone keep staring at their phones and having robots do everything for them.

[STT]

I still have massive leg muscles from all the cycling I did as a kid, it had a influence over the rest of my life and never skip leg day is the best advice meme there ever was.
  So electric bikes are dangerous in multiple ways I agree and not all tech will be positives in health etc. ; even while electric motor development will be very useful going forward.

  The point overall is the changing world has already altered kids outlook from their earliest years, by default all the kids in my family think every screen is a touch screen now because their very first interaction with a computer was always via touch.  This influence I dont doubt will extend across their life now and has altered the perspective of a generation.  In more complex ways this will also be true, its already underway as a change that we will see occur.

  As I understand it via teachers experience, children use AI to learn and quickly digest information so again the alteration AI has had generational, probably forever is already here and wont be undone.   Its important to make that technology as positive as possible rather then opposing or believing it will go away.   I routinely use AI to absorb 10 pages of contract terms, stuff I would never read myself and find how will I will lose money if I had missed some point.

  So maybe the best AI applied is where we are already losing from skipping required work, the amount of mistakes people make that can be avoided is quite massive.   Just simple alterations could change society greatly far more then all the headline going to Mars or whatever dreamy nonsense people think of AI; Im thinking basic mistakes and routine that we had let pass for decades from already existing habitual 'laziness'.

[SUPERSAIAN]

Technology has a way of making people lazy I guess...  I can't help but think that all these kids riding around on electric bikes are hurting themselves so much in the long run.  I peddled or walked everywhere as a kid.  Several miles a day for sure.

It is no wonder aliens (greys anyway) are always these skinny big eyed looking weak creatures.  That's probably how we'll end up if everyone keep staring at their phones and having robots do everything for them.

The other day, when I saw children riding electric bikes in the street, I had the same thought. I was a little sad, but at the same time I thought, at least they're outside and at least they're trying to stay still on that thing, even though it's not like riding a bicycle or walking. Technology is making people physically and mentally lazy, so how we use technology and how we let our children use it is very important.

[Satofan44]

Technology has a way of making people lazy I guess...  I can't help but think that all these kids riding around on electric bikes are hurting themselves so much in the long run.  I peddled or walked everywhere as a kid.  Several miles a day for sure.

It is no wonder aliens (greys anyway) are always these skinny big eyed looking weak creatures.  That's probably how we'll end up if everyone keep staring at their phones and having robots do everything for them.

The other day, when I saw children riding electric bikes in the street, I had the same thought. I was a little sad, but at the same time I thought, at least they're outside and at least they're trying to stay still on that thing, even though it's not like riding a bicycle or walking. Technology is making people physically and mentally lazy, so how we use technology and how we let our children use it is very important.

This is a coping mechanism that is inappropriate. "At least they're outside" is meaningless if they are doing wrong activities and engaging in unhealthy behavior. Riding electric bikes is basically not needed under any circumstance for children, and instead they should be peddling or walking every day all the time as the user has written. If you keep going this road of coping when things are getting wrong, soon we will be in this situation: Well, they are wearing VR headsets all the time but at least they are exploring nature with it!!  

Do not do that, do not minimize the issue at hand with details and instead push children to make the right decisions. Depending on where you look 1/3 to 1/2 of all children right now are overweight and most are dumb as rocks, they are much worse in every skill from literacy to math compared to peers of decades ago at the same ages. Clearly things are "working" out just fine as some luddites pretending to be innovators in this thread are claiming. AI, social media and many of those things should be made 21+. The problem comes from the situation that we have already made these things ubiquitous, the only way to effectively implement any kind of restrictions on mass scale is through totalitarian-like methods. This is a consequence of when humans do something wrong collectively, the solution then tends to be terrible.

In another similar thread, some idiot was justifying that users do not even know the basics of security or their devices. Draconian measures are coming as solutions to the consequences of letting every idiot access the internet and technology without knowing anything about it at all.

[L E G E N D A R Y]

The other day, when I saw children riding electric bikes in the street, I had the same thought. I was a little sad, but at the same time I thought, at least they're outside and at least they're trying to stay still on that thing, even though it's not like riding a bicycle or walking. Technology is making people physically and mentally lazy, so how we use technology and how we let our children use it is very important.

When we ride bicycles or walk, it’s not just about locomotion or moving from one place to another, it’s more about the bodily exercise that you subject your body to while doing those activities, so it’s literally like doing two things at a time, but riding an electric bike may seem to have made things a lot more easier for people but what it’s actually done is to remove some of the benefits attached to cycling.

[Satofan44]

The other day, when I saw children riding electric bikes in the street, I had the same thought. I was a little sad, but at the same time I thought, at least they're outside and at least they're trying to stay still on that thing, even though it's not like riding a bicycle or walking. Technology is making people physically and mentally lazy, so how we use technology and how we let our children use it is very important.

When we ride bicycles or walk, it’s not just about locomotion or moving from one place to another, it’s more about the bodily exercise that you subject your body to while doing those activities, so it’s literally like doing two things at a time, but riding an electric bike may seem to have made things a lot more easier for people but what it’s actually done is to remove some of the benefits attached to cycling.

Using electric bikes for non-specific and targeted replacement of vehicles and as a replacement of normal bicycles is like eating food without nutrition and calories, completely stupid and dumb. If someone wants to replace their car ride with an electric bicycle for going to work and something, that is a good trade-off as it will probably save money without losing time depending on the usual traffic conditions. Cases like that present an example of how you utilize something new in a smart way. Replacing all walks with cars and all cycling with electric bicycles is idiotic, and we can see it with the results.

Don't worry about it though, soon most of the fools of this world will listen to their AI as their God and will want even their pen to have an AI. Just give it some more time. As if a large number of people already weren't retarded with 80 IQs especially in 3rd world countries, giving apes an AI will surely materialize in great outcomes!   On the scale of countries, only the US and China are competing in AI. Everyone else, especially the EU shithole is left in the dust.

[Crakryptvest]

We live in an era where technological advancements has made a lot of things easier for us and before we talk about the demerits let's also consider the fact that Ai has made a lot of things we do now much lighter and efficient but you have a point, people are no longer seeing the need to engage in certain things because there's an easier way to get the work done. perhaps it's not laziness, people are just taking advantage ot tech.

It can be literally called laziness, when humans don't find it necessary to think by themselves anymore because they have a machine that they can give command to perform the task for them, just as I know, Ai is now work made easy, there are things that was difficult for humans in the past but Ai has come to make those things so soft and fast, but we know humans, we can over do things, people now resort to using Ai to do the unimaginable even where humans are asked to do some job by themselves, they will want to use Ai to do it and I think that's where it is been as a technology that encourages laziness in humans.

[Synchronice]

I was using one of the AI tools to do some graphic design and it came out so beautiful as a result. I was very happy with the result I got through AI because creating it, it wasn't stressful and the result was productive.

 Normally, if you give me a computer device to do graphic design I wont be able to perform it better but with AI it was success. Since AI can give me good graphic design, I dont think it will have that urge to go learn graphic design.  I think AI already have the result of what people are supposed to do with their hands. There wont be reason to learn or to work because AI can give people what they want without stress.

AI already has the result of what people are supposed to do? No, not really. At the moment, AI can't replace anyone but it can make things easier and faster and lessen the need on Junior and Middle professionals. For Seniors, AI is not a replacement, it's a tool that will help them to boost their productivity. It doesn't mean that they'll become lazy, no, it means that everything will significantly speed up. There are people who will become lazy but there are also people who will actually get motivated to do even more with the given capability in their hands. Did car made people lazy to move from one point to another? No, it made them lazy to walk but actually 100 times boosted the time they needed to move from one point to another.

[Etranger]

AI already has the result of what people are supposed to do? No, not really. At the moment, AI can't replace anyone but it can make things easier and faster and lessen the need on Junior and Middle professionals. For Seniors, AI is not a replacement, it's a tool that will help them to boost their productivity. It doesn't mean that they'll become lazy, no, it means that everything will significantly speed up. There are people who will become lazy but there are also people who will actually get motivated to do even more with the given capability in their hands. Did car made people lazy to move from one point to another? No, it made them lazy to walk but actually 100 times boosted the time they needed to move from one point to another.

Yes, AI can replace low-level specialists, but far from in every sphere, and besides, then the question will arise: who will become the new seniors? After all, the current seniors do not stand still, they are also aimed at career growth, and for this, there must be a replacement that grows under their leadership. If a new senior does not grow out of a junior or a middle, then the current senior will simply get stuck forever where he is now, despite the fact that he will have long outgrown his position.

[Obari]

I was using one of the AI tools to do some graphic design and it came out so beautiful as a result. I was very happy with the result I got through AI because creating it, it wasn't stressful and the result was productive.

 Normally, if you give me a computer device to do graphic design I wont be able to perform it better but with AI it was success. Since AI can give me good graphic design, I dont think it will have that urge to go learn graphic design.  I think AI already have the result of what people are supposed to do with their hands. There wont be reason to learn or to work because AI can give people what they want without stress.

AI wasn't  intended to make people lazy but to help improve lives but it's quiet unfortunate that people are perceiving a negative narrative of it but the truth is that, everything that has merits also has its demerits and AI isn't exempted but I think we should focus more on the good aspects and try to fit into it because the world is already evolving rapidly and Ai is one of these evolutions and rather than being left out, we should as well try to see how we can alway use it to our advantages.

[Yeesha]

I was using one of the AI tools to do some graphic design and it came out so beautiful as a result. I was very happy with the result I got through AI because creating it, it wasn't stressful and the result was productive.

 Normally, if you give me a computer device to do graphic design I wont be able to perform it better but with AI it was success. Since AI can give me good graphic design, I dont think it will have that urge to go learn graphic design.  I think AI already have the result of what people are supposed to do with their hands. There wont be reason to learn or to work because AI can give people what they want without stress.

AI wasn't  intended to make people lazy but to help improve lives but it's quiet unfortunate that people are perceiving a negative narrative of it but the truth is that, everything that has merits also has its demerits and AI isn't exempted but I think we should focus more on the good aspects and try to fit into it because the world is already evolving rapidly and Ai is one of these evolutions and rather than being left out, we should as well try to see how we can alway use it to our advantages.

Exactly, the aim is to improve the lives of individuals both physically and academically, but some people are using that opportunity to cheat the nature, instead of them to use it and build their own lives and freedom their are doing otherwise. AI has a lot of advantages but it seems like people tend to focus more on the disadvantages than the advantages. AI is one of the biggest and one of the significant technological advancements that is ever made in human history, but some people are abusing and misusing it. It supposed to be a way of creating new things and getting new ideas on how to promote our lives and also the growth and development of our societies.

[Halifat]

The other day, when I saw children riding electric bikes in the street, I had the same thought. I was a little sad, but at the same time I thought, at least they're outside and at least they're trying to stay still on that thing, even though it's not like riding a bicycle or walking. Technology is making people physically and mentally lazy, so how we use technology and how we let our children use it is very important.

When we ride bicycles or walk, it’s not just about locomotion or moving from one place to another, it’s more about the bodily exercise that you subject your body to while doing those activities, so it’s literally like doing two things at a time, but riding an electric bike may seem to have made things a lot more easier for people but what it’s actually done is to remove some of the benefits attached to cycling.

I understand your point here just as you bring the example of a bicycle, it also go the same way with a car, you know we have two types of cars then, we have Auto engine and we have manual engine, before now we were saying that auto engine make us lazy because we cannot move our body compared to manual engine while driving, but now with the electric cars that are coming up now I will even say that auto is also stressful because of how electric cars have been designed.

[Synchronice]

AI already has the result of what people are supposed to do? No, not really. At the moment, AI can't replace anyone but it can make things easier and faster and lessen the need on Junior and Middle professionals. For Seniors, AI is not a replacement, it's a tool that will help them to boost their productivity. It doesn't mean that they'll become lazy, no, it means that everything will significantly speed up. There are people who will become lazy but there are also people who will actually get motivated to do even more with the given capability in their hands. Did car made people lazy to move from one point to another? No, it made them lazy to walk but actually 100 times boosted the time they needed to move from one point to another.

Yes, AI can replace low-level specialists, but far from in every sphere, and besides, then the question will arise: who will become the new seniors? After all, the current seniors do not stand still, they are also aimed at career growth, and for this, there must be a replacement that grows under their leadership. If a new senior does not grow out of a junior or a middle, then the current senior will simply get stuck forever where he is now, despite the fact that he will have long outgrown his position.

That's a good question. If we keep in mind that promise of AI companies, there shouldn't be a need of a new Senior but at the same time, I highly doubt that a person without proper knowledge will be able to build good and secure websites, software and so on. In the end, I think that companies will realize that they need to invest into juniors too because seniors will become older and as many tech companies arise, there will be more demand on experienced developers but less availability of them.
Also, honestly, I think that the advancement of AI and less need of junior developers will make market very competitive and those with connections will be able to land Junior positions compared to those who don't have connections.

[Etranger]

AI already has the result of what people are supposed to do? No, not really. At the moment, AI can't replace anyone but it can make things easier and faster and lessen the need on Junior and Middle professionals. For Seniors, AI is not a replacement, it's a tool that will help them to boost their productivity. It doesn't mean that they'll become lazy, no, it means that everything will significantly speed up. There are people who will become lazy but there are also people who will actually get motivated to do even more with the given capability in their hands. Did car made people lazy to move from one point to another? No, it made them lazy to walk but actually 100 times boosted the time they needed to move from one point to another.

Yes, AI can replace low-level specialists, but far from in every sphere, and besides, then the question will arise: who will become the new seniors? After all, the current seniors do not stand still, they are also aimed at career growth, and for this, there must be a replacement that grows under their leadership. If a new senior does not grow out of a junior or a middle, then the current senior will simply get stuck forever where he is now, despite the fact that he will have long outgrown his position.

That's a good question. If we keep in mind that promise of AI companies, there shouldn't be a need of a new Senior but at the same time, I highly doubt that a person without proper knowledge will be able to build good and secure websites, software and so on. In the end, I think that companies will realize that they need to invest into juniors too because seniors will become older and as many tech companies arise, there will be more demand on experienced developers but less availability of them.
Also, honestly, I think that the advancement of AI and less need of junior developers will make market very competitive and those with connections will be able to land Junior positions compared to those who don't have connections.

Of course, it is absolutely necessary to invest in junior specialists, and not only because seniors are aging, but also because technological progress is developing so rapidly that seniors with all their baggage of knowledge can still lag behind new trends. And this is exactly where Juniors are needed, who, yes, are not yet experienced and they lack professional knowledge and skills, but on the other hand, they feel more organically in the modern world. And the difference between generations has long been not 20–25 years, but literally 7–10, because people live in completely different realities. And business needs those who understand these realities best of all.

[Wakate]

The other day, when I saw children riding electric bikes in the street, I had the same thought. I was a little sad, but at the same time I thought, at least they're outside and at least they're trying to stay still on that thing, even though it's not like riding a bicycle or walking. Technology is making people physically and mentally lazy, so how we use technology and how we let our children use it is very important.

When we ride bicycles or walk, it’s not just about locomotion or moving from one place to another, it’s more about the bodily exercise that you subject your body to while doing those activities, so it’s literally like doing two things at a time, but riding an electric bike may seem to have made things a lot more easier for people but what it’s actually done is to remove some of the benefits attached to cycling.

Laziness is of different types and technology can be responsible for some that we all know that we are responsible for.
Bicycle was created as a means exercise and transportation but majority often use it for the two purposes and technology has made everything easier and better to make it not that useful for exercising again. Now the electric bicycle was created not for exercising but for transportation making moving from one place to the next location becomes easy.

[Dreadboost]

I don't think I will call it laziness,  rather I will call it technology advancement.  My question why would anyone want to stress themselves,  when you have an easier way of getting the work, if not even better than what you would have achieved with all the stress you went through. Right now we are in the technological age, where we have access to advanced technologies that can help us achieve most things without going through stress, which AI is one of them. I think what we should do right now is to take advantage of it , rather than thinking that it makes people lazy.