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[DabsPoorVersion]

Anything relates to betting, and winning can possibly be related to withdrawal of your money later. It of course depends on the marketing program and its rules but even withdrawal is allowed, there are many conditions to be eligible for them. The fact is most gamblers lose all because they can withdraw money from any marketing and bonus programs.

It's risky but you can not prohibit anyone to hope that they can win big, withdraw big fund by participating in any marketing program. Even just funding your account, and betting is already risky without any guarantee to withdraw fund from big wins.

Probably what he means by that is you should not normally chase the wagering requirement even if there is a bonus promotion. Well, it can be considered if the amount of bonus is worth it. Which you will need to determine the possible amount to wager just to complete the wagering requirement. At least by doing this, you can estimate the amount you might win/lose during the completion of the bonus requirement.

[angrybirdy]

Anything relates to betting, and winning can possibly be related to withdrawal of your money later. It of course depends on the marketing program and its rules but even withdrawal is allowed, there are many conditions to be eligible for them. The fact is most gamblers lose all because they can withdraw money from any marketing and bonus programs.

It's risky but you can not prohibit anyone to hope that they can win big, withdraw big fund by participating in any marketing program. Even just funding your account, and betting is already risky without any guarantee to withdraw fund from big wins.

Probably what he means by that is you should not normally chase the wagering requirement even if there is a bonus promotion. Well, it can be considered if the amount of bonus is worth it. Which you will need to determine the possible amount to wager just to complete the wagering requirement. At least by doing this, you can estimate the amount you might win/lose during the completion of the bonus requirement.

Yes, that’s exactly what I meant in my previous reply. you are correct that the wagering requirement shouldn’t automatically be treated as something worth chasing just because theres bonus attached to it. The important thing is to look at the value of that bonus then compare to the amount you’ll actually need to wager. so by estimating the total wagering requirement and the possible amount you could gain or lose while completing it, you will get a better idea whether the promotion is genuinely worthy.. In other scenarios, A bonus can provide enough value to justify the requirement, but if the expected coss or risk is too high compared with the value of your bonus, then its better to skip it. The key is evaluating the numbers rather than assuming the bonus given to you

[blockman]

I am not taking them seriously because it's an addition, not really to take them and we have choice to get them or not. We can opt to take them or not and that's the good thing about them. We've got freedom and choice and I guess those who don't get them usually have an idea why others don't also like taking them when there are requirements that they think they won't be able to meet. And that's a good point you've said, it's not only about the wager but also the time that we have to dedicate in following it.

With this an a few users that have lamented here, on how the wagering conditions are too high, I believe that you all can all see the reason why I don't pay attention to bonus offers. It's not just about luckiest crypto casino, but it's a uniform character or behavior from almost all crypto casino, and before you know it, you will gamble more than you ought to, and that is an act that can lead to addiction if you don't have self control.

As you have said already, it's not a must that you must accept it, it's for you to decide if you can cope with it or not, but if you cannot cope with the conditions, then it's better to ignore it than to accept it and start lamenting here as if it's by force.

We have an idea on how it goes, and that's why when we've tried it a couple of times before we've seen the factors why we don't want to push over it anymore. And casinos like luckiest and the others are not even forcing each of their user to take it. We have freedom if we want to participate or not, there's no forcing to it and if someone tries to comply for it and then failed for some reasons, that's not the casino's fault.

[Finebone]

We have an idea on how it goes, and that's why when we've tried it a couple of times before we've seen the factors why we don't want to push over it anymore. And casinos like luckiest and the others are not even forcing each of their user to take it. We have freedom if we want to participate or not, there's no forcing to it and if someone tries to comply for it and then failed for some reasons, that's not the casino's fault.

It's truly not the casino's fault, but what is surprising me the most is how most users place much importance to it as if it's the primary reason they start gambling or if casino gets to remove anything that get to do with bonuses in their platform, they will because of that stop to gamble.

Personally i see bonuses that comes with a wagering requirement as trap that may not end well if you take it too serious, that's why I don't pay much attention to it, but it most times pissed me off when user start complaining about it terms as if it was forced on them.

[mitchr4]

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It's truly not the casino's fault, but what is surprising me the most is how most users place much importance to it as if it's the primary reason they start gambling or if casino gets to remove anything that get to do with bonuses in their platform, they will because of that stop to gamble.

Personally i see bonuses that comes with a wagering requirement as trap that may not end well if you take it too serious, that's why I don't pay much attention to it, but it most times pissed me off when user start complaining about it terms as if it was forced on them.

I think if a player already read the bonus terms from the start, most likely they will not see it as a trap. Like it was mentioned before, some promos have wagering requirements some do not, it depends on each casino rules, and from the start it was already made optional not forced. So it comes back to the player being careful to read first before claiming, so there is no disappointment later from feeling "trapped", when everything was already explained clearly since the beginning.

[Cryptmuster]

Personally, I mean my personal decisions are to avoid all forms of bonuses for now, unless those bonuses come at the time when I want to spend some time at the casino, but anything other than playing to have fun, I don't see taking bonuses as a good way to go as a gambler.

First, bonus conditions you to act in the way the casino has conditioned you to, and for that you must take your own steps to stay ahead.

Since the casino is giving you bonuses out of its own money, it’s understandable that they will dictate the terms of play. If the bonuses are free, they will usually require high wagering requirements so that you spend as much time as possible in their casino and get used to playing frequently and for long periods.

But I still stand by my opinion that any bonus with a high wagering requirement demands too much effort to clear. So if there’s no option to wager bonus in betting  just 1x, then for me all the other bonuses are practically uninteresting.

[Itz-prisigold]

Since the casino is giving you bonuses out of its own money, it’s understandable that they will dictate the terms of play. If the bonuses are free, they will usually require high wagering requirements so that you spend as much time as possible in their casino and get used to playing frequently and for long periods.

In my opinion, bonuses with high wagering requirements are traps set to keep players longer in the platform than they originally intended to. In the process of wagering just to meet the requirements, the first few bets might be going very well.  You could be winning at the early stage, and that can give you some kind of confidence thinking meeting the requirements might not be that difficult.

But that is where I think people need to be very careful because those early wins is just a trap.  You might eventually starting losing and could even lose everything, and not every gambler is strong enough to accept a loss and walk away. They may end up using their own money hoping to just recover what they've already lost. At this point a bonus that looked attractive at the beginning, end up costing you much more than you actually expected.

[masulum]

In my opinion, bonuses with high wagering requirements are traps set to keep players longer in the platform than they originally intended to. In the process of wagering just to meet the requirements, the first few bets might be going very well.  You could be winning at the early stage, and that can give you some kind of confidence thinking meeting the requirements might not be that difficult.

no business wants to lose their customers, many bonus promotion held by casino always with a goal to get new customer or to keep their users stay for a long time with them. I agree if high wagering requirements one of the reason for players to stay longer, but I don't think that the only reason casinos use them. High wagering requirements can be a way to filter users, to make sure the bonus is not exploited by cheaters. As we know, cheaters can create a lot of account to get the bonus, and after the bonus claimed they can go with the winning if the bonus has lower wagering requirement. but if the bonus given with high requirements, only those prepared to use the service for long term will claim the bonus, because they are ready with any wagering requirements.

[Wiwo]

Personally, I mean my personal decisions are to avoid all forms of bonuses for now, unless those bonuses come at the time when I want to spend some time at the casino, but anything other than playing to have fun, I don't see taking bonuses as a good way to go as a gambler.

First, bonus conditions you to act in the way the casino has conditioned you to, and for that you must take your own steps to stay ahead.

Since the casino is giving you bonuses out of its own money, it’s understandable that they will dictate the terms of play. If the bonuses are free, they will usually require high wagering requirements so that you spend as much time as possible in their casino and get used to playing frequently and for long periods.

But I still stand by my opinion that any bonus with a high wagering requirement demands too much effort to clear. So if there’s no option to wager the bonus in betting just 1x, then for me all the other bonuses are practically uninteresting.

Sure, anything that makes a gambler opt in for a bonus, he should be ready to put up with whatever bonus rules that come along the way.

Casinos treat bonus offers as free money for the gambler, even though their male sure there is no tangible physical money coming out of bonuses.

Just that, as a gamble, sometimes you get fun playing on the house, but in such times, you don't need to expect money but get fun playing endlessly just to meet the bonus conditions.

[SilverCryptoBullet]

Sure, anything that makes a gambler opt in for a bonus, he should be ready to put up with whatever bonus rules that come along the way.

Casinos treat bonus offers as free money for the gambler, even though their male sure there is no tangible physical money coming out of bonuses.

Just that, as a gamble, sometimes you get fun playing on the house, but in such times, you don't need to expect money but get fun playing endlessly just to meet the bonus conditions.

If there are conditions to be eligible for bonus and claiming bonus, then conditions to use bonus later for be able to withdraw fund, it's not free money at all. Sometimes conditions are not easy, and even too hard for winning and withdrawing money if you won from bonuses.

If it is only for playing, enjoying games and bets without concerns about what will end later, some gamblers can claim bonus and use it comfortably. Because they were eligible from their genuine bets, with or without bonus they bet similarly, and they continue betting like they usually do after claiming bonus.

However, it's hard to find such gamblers as they are affected by bonus programs, try to be eligible, try to win big and withdraw funds so usually casinos have many terms to tight gamblers with the casino, bonus programs and after that.

[Wiwo]

If there are conditions to be eligible for bonus and claiming bonus, then conditions to use bonus later for be able to withdraw fund, it's not free money at all. Sometimes conditions are not easy, and even too hard for winning and withdrawing money if you won from bonuses.

If it is only for playing, enjoying games and bets without concerns about what will end later, some gamblers can claim bonus and use it comfortably. Because they were eligible from their genuine bets, with or without bonus they bet similarly, and they continue betting like they usually do after claiming bonus.

However, it's hard to find such gamblers as they are affected by bonus programs, try to be eligible, try to win big and withdraw funds so usually casinos have many terms to tight gamblers with the casino, bonus programs and after that.

That is the point, bonuses puts you under pressure although with less impact on your balance since you will be playing from the bonuse balance without worrying about your own deposits.

Bonuses are not free money to gamblers since we have to work to earn and at the same time meet requirements to own it, so you see it a double hustle for us as gamblers since the bonuses comes with their own unique requirements unlike your own deposited money.

[SilverCryptoBullet]

That is the point, bonuses puts you under pressure although with less impact on your balance since you will be playing from the bonuse balance without worrying about your own deposits.

Bonuses are not free money to gamblers since we have to work to earn and at the same time meet requirements to own it, so you see it a double hustle for us as gamblers since the bonuses comes with their own unique requirements unlike your own deposited money.

It can create pressure on you or not, depends on how you accepted those bonus programs and join them. It's like dependence on how you prepare yourself before betting, before joining a marketing program with conditions to fulfill. Gamblers who are knowledgeable about risk, careful with their preparation and actual practice later, will do bets responsibly either with bonuses or not.

In contrast, people who don't have these things lack of one of these important traits, will very likely have bad betting practice, and they will possibly bet irresponsibly. Bonuses and marketing programs with extra terms only trigger irresponsible gamblers making their bets more irresponsibly.

[Wiwo]

It can create pressure on you or not, depends on how you accepted those bonus programs and join them. It's like dependence on how you prepare yourself before betting, before joining a marketing program with conditions to fulfill. Gamblers who are knowledgeable about risk, careful with their preparation and actual practice later, will do bets responsibly either with bonuses or not.

In contrast, people who don't have these things lack of one of these important traits will very likely have bad betting practice, and they will possibly bet irresponsibly. Bonuses and marketing programs with extra terms only trigger irresponsible gamblers to make their bets more irresponsibly.

Our betting pattern determines the outcome of our gambling experience, no doubt about that. I also agree with the other aspects that the way we plan our betting or gambling process should be the same, whether we are gambling with bonuses or our own deposited funds.

But the key difference we can note down is the requirements that come with bonuses; this puts an extra demand on the gambler, unknowingly or knowingly, and by rules.

This creates a bit of difference in the demand that the gambler faces in the end.

[Ruttoshi]

Our betting pattern determines the outcome of our gambling experience, no doubt about that. I also agree with the other aspects that the way we plan our betting or gambling process should be the same, whether we are gambling with bonuses or our own deposited funds.

But the key difference we can note down is the requirements that come with bonuses; this puts an extra demand on the gambler, unknowingly or knowingly, and by rules.

This creates a bit of difference in the demand that the gambler faces in the end.

Yea, some bonus requirements can make you gamble with higher amount of money just to make sure that you're able to meet up with it. If it's a small amount of bonus, you can threat it like it's the funds that you deposited but when it's a big bonus, it will definitely, make you gamble differently from when you deposited because of the extra demand it puts one you. I do avoid bonus with high wager requirements.

[Finebone]

 I would like to ask the luckiest crypto casino representative here @luckiest if their is any future plans of adding sport book to the casino?
Because the footballing seasons has kicked off in the whole of europe, so sport gamers will want to start start their gambling activities back, especially those that gamble on only sport, so it would be more better if gamers can equally bet on sport while using luckiest crypto casino to gamble, so @luckiest am just curious to know if their is any future plans about that, or things will remain as it is forever.

[SilverCryptoBullet]

I would like to ask the luckiest crypto casino representative here @luckiest if their is any future plans of adding sport book to the casino?

They have plan for adding a sportsbook but not sure when, and if you're curious about that, you can wait for their newest reply about this.

A post in July about sportsbook in their product development plan but I see it is only a roadmap, while there is no detailed plan for that yet.
https://bitlist.co/search?content=sportsbook&topic_id=5588606&limit=20

Yes, we have plans to add a sportsbook, but we're a casino first business and we want to get this right before adding the complexities (and costs) of having a sportsbook. When we can add a sportsbook or prediction markets product depend on how good a job we do on the casino side first.

[Luckiest]

I’ve been catching up on the discission around bonuses and thought I’d jump in with a little context from the Luckiest side.

First, I understand why some players don’t like high wagering requirements. If a bonus doesn’t represent good value to you, don’t take it. 

We’re currently testing different variations of Deposit & Get and No Deposit promotions across different channels because we’re trying to figure out what works for players and what doesn’t.

When we’re giving away $5 or 20 freespins with no deposit, there are naturally going to be conditions attached. The purpose of a No Deposit bonus isn’t to hand out free cash to someone who have no intention of ever playing or depositing. It’s a marketing tool that give someone a low-risk way to try Luckiest, play some games, decide whether they like the experience enough to make a real deposit. Our min deposit is only $10 when using crypto.

We’re not trying to present that every bonus will suit every player. Some love bonuses, some prefer cashback, some prefer tournaments and some would rather just deposit and play with no bonus attached.

There’s no one size fits all when it comes to wagering requirements or win caps. You’ll find casinos with lower requirements, higher requirements, no win caps, low win caps, etc.. A 35x requirements isn’t going to be attractive to everyone, but it’s also no unusual.

It’s intentional that some of you have received different offers with different requirements. We’re trying to find the balance between making promotions attractive enough that genuine players want to use them, while also protecting ourselves being exploited by bonus abusers.

What might be interesting for some of this community, we’re still small enough to be flexible. We’re not at the stage where every player needs to fit into one of our five automated bonus categories. If you’re a genuine player who already plays at other casinos and you’re thinking of giving Luckiest a try, send me a PM, tell me what you actually likes;

- Cashback
- Free Spins
- Deposit Matches
- Low Wagering
- Live Casino offers
- Races
- Tournaments
- Something completely different perhaps

We can look at putting together a bespoke offer based on the type of player you are, rather than sending you standard promotions.

You don’t need to be depositing $5,000 a week. We’re interested in regular players too.

A few people in this thread have given us some really useful feedback, particularly around tournament and races in private conversations. That’s exactly the kinds of feedback we’re looking for.

We’re getting close to launching tournaments and races, but we’d rather launch them properly with a community of players who actually want to participate than put something like that nobody uses.

If our standard offers aren’t you thing, let’s talk and see if we can offer something that is.


Re: Sportsbook, we don't have an ETA on this yet. I doubt it will be this year. We still have a lot to achieve on the casino side before adding sportsbetting.

[masulum]

First, I understand why some players don’t like high wagering requirements. If a bonus doesn’t represent good value to you, don’t take it. 

this is the points, most people just complaining about high wager requirements for no deposit bonus. they are just thinking about get free money with easy conditions from casino. I personally will ignore any no-deposit bonus if I don't intend to use the casino after using that promotion. for me, there is no reason to claiming it if I won't use the services. Even if I claiming it, and in the end not able to withdraw the winning from bonus because not met the wager requirement, nothing to lose for me because that winning not from deposit.

[Wiwo]

First, I understand why some players don’t like high wagering requirements. If a bonus doesn’t represent good value to you, don’t take it. 

this is the points, most people just complaining about high wager requirements for no deposit bonus. they are just thinking about get free money with easy conditions from casino. I personally will ignore any no-deposit bonus if I don't intend to use the casino after using that promotion. for me, there is no reason to claiming it if I won't use the services. Even if I claiming it, and in the end not able to withdraw the winning from bonus because not met the wager requirement, nothing to lose for me because that winning not from deposit.

Exactly me too, i most times overlook bonuses, unless when I am ready to accept whatever bonuse rules that comes along with that bonuse.

But for my normal gambling, I do prefer to play with my own money, since with that, I have less conditions to deal with with in general.

[Z_MBFM]

First, I understand why some players don’t like high wagering requirements. If a bonus doesn’t represent good value to you, don’t take it. 

this is the points, most people just complaining about high wager requirements for no deposit bonus. they are just thinking about get free money with easy conditions from casino. I personally will ignore any no-deposit bonus if I don't intend to use the casino after using that promotion. for me, there is no reason to claiming it if I won't use the services. Even if I claiming it, and in the end not able to withdraw the winning from bonus because not met the wager requirement, nothing to lose for me because that winning not from deposit.

Exactly me too, i most times overlook bonuses, unless when I am ready to accept whatever bonuse rules that comes along with that bonuse.

But for my normal gambling, I do prefer to play with my own money, since with that, I have less conditions to deal with with in general.

I also follow this strategy. I definitely claim bonuses and enjoy them, but I don't claim any deposit bonuses because there are many conditions to claim a deposit bonus, which are very difficult to meet and complete and withdraw money. I claimed deposit bonuses a few times and I couldn't get my money back.

But Monthly Bonus Weekly Bonus These bonuses do not have much requirement due to which I always claim them. Recently I got my birthday bonus although it was very small but from here I won a smart amount and withdrew it. And you enjoy this type of bonus very much. And when I normally gamble then I deposit my own money that is my preference