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Today at 07:45:42 AM
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But I don't understand how they expressed such an attitude at that time even though they knew the rules.  there is no way for debate that Argentina played badly in the final. And if FIFA had given them an extra advantage, they would have tried to make them win the final as well, but they didn't play well in the final and even received a red card.

Let's say that from the behavior of President Infantino and from some things noticed during Argentina's matches in the last World Cup, i think it is also natural that a bit of suspicion could arise among everyone, which in fact it did. And i don't think this is anyone's fault, also because in the end Argentina exited the World Cup.
I don't understand what kind of behavior the president you are talking about. But the decisions of the matches that have been controversial were all within the FIFA rules and regulations. But the problem arises when such steps have not been taken before or have not been seen in any previous matches. And because of this, the audience may have understood that FIFA was giving Argentina extra privileges. But the proof that this did not actually happen was found in the final. Argentina did not play well, so they lost in the final. And they are in the final on their own performance . Argentina won the final on their good performance in the 2022 final. And when organizing such a big event, there may be some mistakes and criticism, it is normal. However, people understand the right thing with time.

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Today at 09:51:43 AM
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I think the feeling was mutual, and worldwide everyone wanted Spain to win. Judging by Argentina's performance, many weren't convinced by their play and what happened. To avoid a fuss, it was assumed there was foul play, and that's what made many people angry.

Spain is and was superior in that match, but Argentinians have other theories: that they were told to go out and lose because the time they beat England they used a Falkland Islands flag. Supposedly, that was the whole story.

This would mean saying that Spain simply won because Argentina didn't give their all, which is really sad, because i think Argentina played to their potential and didn't manage to do more than they did, while Spain absolutely played the right football to deserve the victory.

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Today at 10:18:08 AM
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Spain dominated the last World Cup in the same way from the beginning. They dominated every match. When France became unstoppable, Spain said we are here. France's dynamic attacking stars could not show any dominance against Spain. But I think it would have been better if Portugal had won this World Cup instead of Spain. This year's World Cup was the last World Cup for Ronaldo, Neymar, Messi and other legendary players. While all the other players have had many achievements and failures in their history, football fans will never forget Ronaldo's failure. If Ronaldo had won the World Cup, no team's fans would have regretted it. It would have been a traditional witness in football history. It would have been the perfect achievement of a player's life. But above all, reality always moves at its own pace. Spain performed consistently from the beginning to the end of the World Cup, and they were the ones who deserved the trophy.

Spain, with De la Fuente, demonstrated the classic Spanish game works.
A game of ball possession and continuous tiki taka, with continuous movement of the ball to make the opponents tire, but with a more aggressive and controlled offensive phase than a few years ago, in addition to the talent of young champions.

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Today at 10:27:43 AM
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The both teams tried during the game I must say. Argentina also played a defensive game against Spain and that was really massive on there side. It's just that we can not forecast the exact team that will win the match even before the game starts.
The next season will be very hot betweens this two teams when they meet the next football season. Spain deserves the cup just like Argentina will not take it very easy in the coming season

Both teams tried, but Spain was more superior and attacked a lot.
It will always be a good challenge between Spain and Argentina, they have many champions and i can win both.
We'll see what happens when they meet again what will happen and who will come out on top.
They are two very strong teams.

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Today at 12:19:40 PM
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The both teams tried during the game I must say. Argentina also played a defensive game against Spain and that was really massive on there side. It's just that we can not forecast the exact team that will win the match even before the game starts.
The next season will be very hot betweens this two teams when they meet the next football season. Spain deserves the cup just like Argentina will not take it very easy in the coming season

Both teams tried, but Spain was more superior and attacked a lot.
It will always be a good challenge between Spain and Argentina, they have many champions and i can win both.
We'll see what happens when they meet again what will happen and who will come out on top.
They are two very strong teams.
According to the final match, Argentina was not considered a strong team with Spain. They could not show any performance of their own in the final match. None of their strategies worked against Spain. Spain found Argentina as the weakest team in the entire World Cup in the final. Here I will say that Argentina's plan was wrong. They lost badly to Spain because of planning according to the way they had played past matches. Spain did not only beat Argentina, they kept ball in control most of the time. This reduced Argentina's confidence a lot. And Argentina could not attack because they did not create chance . If Argentina could shoot the ball at the goal like Spain, then it would be understood that both teams are quite strong. But unfortunately, it is true that Argentina's playing style was much worse than Spain's performance. their luck was good so Argentina did not have to concede many goals. And the main reason for this was because of Argentina's goalkeeper.

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Today at 12:49:00 PM
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If there are 4 teams that are big contenders for the World Cup in this World Cup, one of them is Argentina. Argentina has been in great form throughout the World Cup season and they have proven in every match why they are the biggest contenders to win the World Cup. We have seen how strong and aggressive the Argentina team is and how they can take control of the entire match at the last minute. Looking at Argentina's performance throughout the season, no one can ever believe and it is still hard to believe that Argentina played the final match like this. But yes, now we are hearing a lot of things and a lot of news is being spread, but to me this news seems somewhat credible. Because the team that can win at the last minute will play so badly in the final match.

Yes, Argentina absolutely has the potential to do very well. It is a united, compact team, strong in a World Cup already won, which has a captain who is admired by the whole team and who plays for the whole team. So Argentina is a team not to be underestimated for their game...

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Today at 02:14:45 PM
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According to the final match, Argentina was not considered a strong team with Spain. They could not show any performance of their own in the final match. None of their strategies worked against Spain. Spain found Argentina as the weakest team in the entire World Cup in the final. Here I will say that Argentina's plan was wrong. They lost badly to Spain because of planning according to the way they had played past matches. Spain did not only beat Argentina, they kept ball in control most of the time. This reduced Argentina's confidence a lot. And Argentina could not attack because they did not create chance . If Argentina could shoot the ball at the goal like Spain, then it would be understood that both teams are quite strong. But unfortunately, it is true that Argentina's playing style was much worse than Spain's performance. their luck was good so Argentina did not have to concede many goals. And the main reason for this was because of Argentina's goalkeeper.
In my opinion, it would be unfair to say that none of Argentina's tactics worked against Spain. I accept that they played very badly in the final, even though Spain had the ball most of the time. But don't forget that Argentina kept Spain from scoring for 105 minutes. If none of their tactics had worked, Spain could have scored a goal much earlier. Spain certainly showed control and Argentina's problem was not being able to play attacking football. Spain's big strengths were ball control, passing and consistency in attack. But Argentina's strengths were team balance, defense and ability to hold the match even under pressure.

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Today at 02:21:19 PM
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In my opinion, it would be unfair to say that none of Argentina's tactics worked against Spain. I accept that they played very badly in the final, even though Spain had the ball most of the time. But don't forget that Argentina kept Spain from scoring for 105 minutes. If none of their tactics had worked, Spain could have scored a goal much earlier. Spain certainly showed control and Argentina's problem was not being able to play attacking football. Spain's big strengths were ball control, passing and consistency in attack. But Argentina's strengths were team balance, defense and ability to hold the match even under pressure.

On the other side, despite not allowing Spain to score for 105 minutes, Argentine were not able to score themselves. Spain ball possession was longer. For me that tells that Argentinas tactics wasnt working at all. They must have changed it after first half, however both teams continued to play same game they were playing. If original tactics was to get to penalty shots, then imo that is a bad tactics, as penalties can be compared to luck and random. 

 
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Today at 02:33:37 PM
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However, Argentina can still perform well in the next world cup because nothing will change much in the players that played the 2026 world cup. Apart from Lionel Messi and Nicolás Otamendi, the rest players will play again in the 2030 World Cup so there is still hopes for Argentina.

It is true that Messi is certainly a formidable player and has also made the difference in this World Cup for Argentina and for Argentina's arrival in the final, given his assists and goals.
But we must also remember that he is a player who missed two fundamental penalties.
So Argentina is Argentina because it is a team that produces talent and not for a single individual.

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Today at 03:12:24 PM
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And I think Messi has a considerable influence behind the changes that Argentina makes and their strategy changes during the game. His years of experience and the ability to take the team forward himself will be beneficial for the Argentina team in the future if he is in a position to decide the team's policy. Or there is a considerable possibility of seeing Messi as Argentina's coach in the future.

Let's say that anyone hopes that Ronaldo and Messi continue to be part of the world of football, and i believe that it is also inevitable, because they are both inextricably linked to this sport.
I think it would be nice to see the two train their respective national teams one day to continue this competition.

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Today at 03:34:24 PM
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However, Argentina can still perform well in the next world cup because nothing will change much in the players that played the 2026 world cup. Apart from Lionel Messi and Nicolás Otamendi, the rest players will play again in the 2030 World Cup so there is still hopes for Argentina.

It is true that Messi is certainly a formidable player and has also made the difference in this World Cup for Argentina and for Argentina's arrival in the final, given his assists and goals.
But we must also remember that he is a player who missed two fundamental penalties.
So Argentina is Argentina because it is a team that produces talent and not for a single individual.

I do agree with your statement that. Messi is one of the greatest player among all the the Argentina's heroes that have been contributed greatly to the success of Argentina. But you know football is a continuous process and Argentina may produces a better player, that's more tallented than Messi in the future, though even Messi alone can do it, it has to be with the help of defenders and the Midfielder's contributions. Messi can actually win you in a match, but it's the whole club that would survive the moment, and that alone make Argentina more difficult to understand at times, well credit cannot be given to Messi alone neither the whole Argentina tram. Same goes to Christiano Ronaldo. So both of them has done well, now we are heading to next 2030 FIFA world cup tournament, let's see any other key players many countries can produce before then.

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Today at 04:44:23 PM
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But what was the end result of Scaloni's strategy? This strategy is very risky in football, a team can never be kept like a wall for 120 minutes, because the wall weakens at some point, and that's what happened with Argentina. They were a strong wall, but Enzo Fernandez got a red card in the 93rd minute, their wall weakened, and then Spain scored in the 106th minute. I have never seen a final match where a team played completely defensively the whole match and had 0 shots on target the whole match. It was the worst final match for Argentina. And because of this wrong strategy, they lost the World Cup.

Let's say that facing a World Cup final should be an honor for both teams. So seeing a team that does nothing but defend is a bit humiliating, because it almost seems like they don't want to play openly.
Honestly i think that a team in a final like that must go all out and not play timidly like Argentina did.

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Today at 05:29:21 PM
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I was supporting Spain in this World Cup and I wanted Spain to win. However, everyone was happy with Spain's performance in the final match, and why should not they be happy? The way Spain played in the final match, Argentina really couldn't beat them for 90 minutes. I was surprised that a player like Messi couldn't do anything in this game, but, from the beginning, based on Spain's performance against every team, you could say that Spain deserved to be the champion of this World Cup and they won.

I think its still right, beyond everything, because Spain comes from a very complicated path in the group stage and deservedly managed to reach the final.
Argentina had a simpler schedule and reached the final so scared that they were unable to get a shot on goal in a full ninety minutes.

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Today at 05:41:24 PM
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Let's say that facing a World Cup final should be an honor for both teams. So seeing a team that does nothing but defend is a bit humiliating, because it almost seems like they don't want to play openly.
Honestly i think that a team in a final like that must go all out and not play timidly like Argentina did.
Isnt it weird to have seen a team not able to get a single shot om goal though they have been very good in the tournament rather unbeaten, i think something political have to do with Argentina’s performance like that because no matter how strong an opposition is you cant sit with 0 shots



I think it has somewhat to do with this flag, and if argentine had won they would’ve faced a ban gor 10 years so they preferred losing a WC rather than not being able to play for 10 years. That’s just my theory and what i think. What do you guys think abt that

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Today at 05:59:31 PM
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Argentina has proven how bad they are in this game. You will see that they have not been able to treat the opposition well in most of their matches. They were even worse against Spain. I am not sure if Argentina actually received help from FIFA President Infantino. But the way the referee supported Argentina during the game against Egypt made me think that FIFA probably helped Argentina a lot. But I saw in a report that FIFA President Infantino said that they did not help Argentina in any way. Even according to him, if someone helped the referee or someone outside the field in any way, that is a different matter.

It is not known what is behind the scenes to be able to give the certainty that Argentina tried to be clever, but one thing is for sure, i am not entirely convinced that they deserved the final, and this is because Spain created much more and deserved to win, Argentina did not even hit the target for 90 minutes so Spain proved to be superior.

If there are 4 teams that are big contenders for the World Cup in this World Cup, one of them is Argentina. Argentina has been in great form throughout the World Cup season and they have proven in every match why they are the biggest contenders to win the World Cup. We have seen how strong and aggressive the Argentina team is and how they can take control of the entire match at the last minute. Looking at Argentina's performance throughout the season, no one can ever believe and it is still hard to believe that Argentina played the final match like this. But yes, now we are hearing a lot of things and a lot of news is being spread, but to me this news seems somewhat credible. Because the team that can win at the last minute will play so badly in the final match.
But I am not really sure how far Argentina will go in the next World Cup, I think it will take time for Argentina to reach the final again, since Argentina's captain Messi will not be in the next World Cup, so the team will definitely play the next World Cup with some emptiness.
The teams that Argentina played in this World Cup and reached the final were actually lucky for them, because compared to other teams, Argentina's opponents were relatively easy, whom they easily defeated to reach the final, and that is why they thought that they would be able to easily defeat Spain in the final like in the rest of the matches, but then they faced the real reality and because of that they had no attack in the entire final match.
Anyway, let's see how Argentina's position is in the next World Cup, there is still a long time left, so a lot can change in this.











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