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ok I am in for 1 reserve payment sent, PM sent. Sit back and relax. Hopefully we can get those 35 or more units needed to make the $4495 price, that would be o so sweet!
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April 20, 2014, 12:53:12 AM |
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bob, keep us posted and pics if allowed would be awesome.
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April 20, 2014, 05:57:23 AM |
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while im tempted, i cant ignore the aggressive push for sales and the defensive nature of some of the responses to legitimate concerns.
along with the august delivery date, 'promises' of ROI & the classic, 'do your own research because we wont be held accountable for delays' etc make it quite the scary propsition.
edgar, you did notice huh? well i am in, but it does make me ponder when you go the site and you $12k for the same machine you might get for under $5k, sounds too good to be true I know....I went for it anyway....gulp.
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while im tempted, i cant ignore the aggressive push for sales and the defensive nature of some of the responses to legitimate concerns.
along with the august delivery date, 'promises' of ROI & the classic, 'do your own research because we wont be held accountable for delays' etc make it quite the scary propsition.
edgar, you did notice huh? well i am in, but it does make me ponder when you go the site and you $12k for the same machine you might get for under $5k, sounds too good to be true I know....I went for it anyway....gulp. 12K is the list price for single units but it is clear they are discounting it well below that. For example, their qty 3 discount is only $7k, plus some free hosting. Probably they don't really want to deal with a lot of qty 1 orders from the public.
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April 20, 2014, 08:08:28 AM |
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while im tempted, i cant ignore the aggressive push for sales and the defensive nature of some of the responses to legitimate concerns.
along with the august delivery date, 'promises' of ROI & the classic, 'do your own research because we wont be held accountable for delays' etc make it quite the scary propsition.
"The aggressive push for sales" was explained at some length, for example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=521520.msg6293879#msg6293879We're directing wandering customers to the group buy: http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/news/13780541-special-easter-passover-discount-on-sp30-group-purchaseWe don't guarantee or promise ROI. We do believe it's a terrific deal with very good chance for an excellent ROI. We can't predict the hash-rate. We can't predict BTC value. We never said that we won't be accountable for delays. We did say that we'll deliver on time and on spec. We wouldn't have taken pre-orders if we had any doubts about our ability to deliver. We won't take pre-orders for our 3rd gen which is an higher risk.
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April 20, 2014, 08:14:14 AM |
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We can do 3,000$ pre-payment, the rest before shipping.
I was asking about trying the 40-60 split, but it is well enough to use the 3,000 pre payment. Guy told me to post it here or tell Roadstress. Please update the thread. Thank you.
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April 20, 2014, 08:23:14 AM |
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From the OP: Waiting for your Neptune refund? Secure your place now by sending the reservation fee and pay only 3000$ per unit when required and pay the rest after you get your refund. You will need to have proof of asking refund. That will be mandatory!
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April 20, 2014, 08:34:13 AM |
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We never said that we won't be accountable for delays. According to your terms of sale, you won't be accountable for delays We did say that we'll deliver on time and on spec. We wouldn't have taken pre-orders if we had any doubts about our ability to deliver. Your terms of sale instruct us not to rely on these statements. Delivery dates communicated or acknowledged by Spondoolies in the Order Confirmation are approximate only, and are dependent upon supply chain interruptions and stoppages, development delays, and other factors. Therefore, Purchaser shall not rely upon, and Spondoolies shall not be liable under whatsoever circumstances for any other estimation statement of expectation when delivery will occur. link
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April 20, 2014, 09:14:48 AM |
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Not sure this was asked and answered and my apologies in advance if it was... what if the people pledging do not pay spondoolies for the units? Fore example if 255 units are pledged before the deadline but only 240 are actually paid for do we all still get the 250 unit volume pricing?
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April 20, 2014, 09:40:31 AM |
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Not sure this was asked and answered and my apologies in advance if it was... what if the people pledging do not pay spondoolies for the units? Fore example if 255 units are pledged before the deadline but only 240 are actually paid for do we all still get the 250 unit volume pricing?
+1 I also think like you and Spondoolies can give some if...else for this situation asap.
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April 20, 2014, 10:00:40 AM |
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***SPECIAL OFFER*** An additional 10% reduction for those who can prove that they have a previous order with any Bitcoin ASIC company!!! That means that if we get over 250 units and you have a previous order with anyone you will only have to pay $4495 per SP30. 0.832$/GHWaiting for your Neptune refund?Secure your place now by sending the reservation fee and pay only 3000$ per unit when required and pay the rest after you get your refund. You will need to have proof of asking refund. That will be mandatory! Maximum number of units is 10001100! Spondoolies Tech doesn't want to sell more units that they can produce.(unlike some other companies) In order to commit and reserve your place, please send 0.1 BTC for every unit that you plan to purchase to the wallet address below: 14m3894jgMydahgzAHvvFWYdWUGYKjg2df(Add 0.0001 miners fee, to ensure the transaction arrives in time). Example: If you want 10 SP30 miners then send 1 BTC, if you want 17 SP30 miners then send 1.7 BTC. PM me with the followings: - transaction ID; - your e-mail; - your preffered payment method(Bitcoins, Dollars or Euros); - applying for 10% discount or not Remember that the 10% discount is offered only for people who have a previous order with any other Bitcoin ASIC manufacturer The list will be forwarded to Spoondolies Tech so that you can arrange payment afterwards. Payment Terms: - Buy sending 0.1 BTC, you're committing to send us full payment per the above, 4 days after reaching the 250 mark, or 4 days from Friday 25 if the group sale only reached the 50 mark
In case we don't reach the minimum of 50 reservations, I will refund everyone involved. I value my integrity more than 5 BTC. Please note that the prices are in addition to the 0.1 BTC! The collected bitcoins will be spread as following: 70% will go to Sean's Outpost, 10% will go to ckolivas(for supporting cgminer), 10% will go to etotheipi/Armory Developers and 10% will go to me(for my trouble). The units include free shipping or one month of free hosting. The units will be shipped to you directly from Spondoolies-Tech. We have only until Friday the 25th at 12:00pm CET to get the required amount. After that the offer will expire. Together we can get this awesome deal. This is a great opportunity since this is by far the best $/GH available right now and the best W/Gh. Edit: Added Payment Terms! Edit2: Add preferred payment method in the PM. Edit3: Updated the list that you will have to PM me. Edit4: Updated the maximum number of reservations in case of non-payment customers. Also added $/GH for the 10% Special Offer Edit5: Special Easter Egg: Added Neptune refunds terms. Maybe paypal or wire option? I'm in fiat.
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April 20, 2014, 10:10:51 AM |
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Not sure this was asked and answered and my apologies in advance if it was... what if the people pledging do not pay spondoolies for the units? Fore example if 255 units are pledged before the deadline but only 240 are actually paid for do we all still get the 250 unit volume pricing?
+1 I also think like you and Spondoolies can give some if...else for this situation asap. Good one. We trust the people will honour their pledge. We'll start collecting after reaching the 250 mark. We'll start collecting according to the deal RoadStress negotiated, e.g. the discounted pricing. If people won't honour the pledge, we won't ask for the higher price. However ,we will be disappointed. You trust us with your pre-order. We want to trust you to honour the deal.
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April 20, 2014, 10:13:36 AM |
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Maybe paypal or wire option? I'm in fiat.
Are you referring to 0.1 BTC participation token ? If this is the case, we'll submit 0.1 BTC on your behalf. You'll need to pay additional 0.1 BTC value when we'll collect the payment. If you're referring to the payment itself, it can be with wire transfer. Please close the details with RoadStress through the PM.
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April 20, 2014, 10:17:31 AM |
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We never said that we won't be accountable for delays. According to your terms of sale, you won't be accountable for delays We did say that we'll deliver on time and on spec. We wouldn't have taken pre-orders if we had any doubts about our ability to deliver. Your terms of sale instruct us not to rely on these statements. Delivery dates communicated or acknowledged by Spondoolies in the Order Confirmation are approximate only, and are dependent upon supply chain interruptions and stoppages, development delays, and other factors. Therefore, Purchaser shall not rely upon, and Spondoolies shall not be liable under whatsoever circumstances for any other estimation statement of expectation when delivery will occur. link Already discussed, repeatedly, in our thread.
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April 20, 2014, 10:28:30 AM |
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Not sure this was asked and answered and my apologies in advance if it was... what if the people pledging do not pay spondoolies for the units? Fore example if 255 units are pledged before the deadline but only 240 are actually paid for do we all still get the 250 unit volume pricing?
+1 I also think like you and Spondoolies can give some if...else for this situation asap. Good one. We trust the people will honour their pledge. We'll start collecting after reaching the 250 mark. We'll start collecting according to the deal RoadStress negotiated, e.g. the discounted pricing. If people won't honour the pledge, we won't ask for the higher price. However ,we will be disappointed. You trust us with your pre-order. We want to trust you to honour the deal. spoondoolies, as someone pointed out earlier, I love the honeymoon phase, its always the best. Promises to the moon, thank you! And I don't think you'll have a prob. with payments, hell I've been pondering units 2 and 3.
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April 20, 2014, 10:40:24 AM |
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Not sure this was asked and answered and my apologies in advance if it was... what if the people pledging do not pay spondoolies for the units? Fore example if 255 units are pledged before the deadline but only 240 are actually paid for do we all still get the 250 unit volume pricing?
+1 I also think like you and Spondoolies can give some if...else for this situation asap. Good one. We trust the people will honour their pledge. We'll start collecting after reaching the 250 mark. We'll start collecting according to the deal RoadStress negotiated, e.g. the discounted pricing. If people won't honour the pledge, we won't ask for the higher price. However ,we will be disappointed. You trust us with your pre-order. We want to trust you to honour the deal. spoondoolies, as someone pointed out earlier, I love the honeymoon phase, its always the best. Promises to the moon, thank you! And I don't think you'll have a prob. with payments, hell I've been pondering units 2 and 3. Thanks for the quick reply. I will bring that to the attention of the Freicoin miners / pools group I am working with on this and we are hoping to get 4 x SP30s pledged and money collected.
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April 20, 2014, 10:59:57 AM |
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Not sure this was asked and answered and my apologies in advance if it was... what if the people pledging do not pay spondoolies for the units? Fore example if 255 units are pledged before the deadline but only 240 are actually paid for do we all still get the 250 unit volume pricing?
+1 I also think like you and Spondoolies can give some if...else for this situation asap. Good one. We trust the people will honour their pledge. We'll start collecting after reaching the 250 mark. We'll start collecting according to the deal RoadStress negotiated, e.g. the discounted pricing. If people won't honour the pledge, we won't ask for the higher price. However ,we will be disappointed. You trust us with your pre-order. We want to trust you to honour the deal. spoondoolies, as someone pointed out earlier, I love the honeymoon phase, its always the best. Promises to the moon, thank you! And I don't think you'll have a prob. with payments, hell I've been pondering units 2 and 3. Thanks for the quick reply. I will bring that to the attention of the Freicoin miners / pools group I am working with on this and we are hoping to get 4 x SP30s pledged and money collected. 'Just when I thought I was out....they pull me back in' I keep saying this cause I am tired of the ASIC rat race, but in the end I am a rat!
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April 20, 2014, 11:36:01 AM |
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im in the same mind-frame. its like we're being told two different things by the same people. this for me makes it worse. while im tempted, i cant ignore the aggressive push for sales and the defensive nature of some of the responses to legitimate concerns.
along with the august delivery date, 'promises' of ROI & the classic, 'do your own research because we wont be held accountable for delays' etc make it quite the scary propsition.
"The aggressive push for sales" was explained at some length, for example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=521520.msg6293879#msg6293879We're directing wandering customers to the group buy: http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/news/13780541-special-easter-passover-discount-on-sp30-group-purchaseWe don't guarantee or promise ROI. We do believe it's a terrific deal with very good chance for an excellent ROI. We can't predict the hash-rate. We can't predict BTC value. We never said that we won't be accountable for delays. We did say that we'll deliver on time and on spec.We wouldn't have taken pre-orders if we had any doubts about our ability to deliver. We won't take pre-orders for our 3rd gen which is an higher risk. And what recourse do we have if you do not deliver on time/spec? NONE according to your own ToS. is it just myself & Smooth that seem to be baffled by the double speak here??
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April 20, 2014, 11:43:48 AM |
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im in the same mind-frame. its like we're being told two different things by the same people. this for me makes it worse. while im tempted, i cant ignore the aggressive push for sales and the defensive nature of some of the responses to legitimate concerns.
along with the august delivery date, 'promises' of ROI & the classic, 'do your own research because we wont be held accountable for delays' etc make it quite the scary propsition.
"The aggressive push for sales" was explained at some length, for example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=521520.msg6293879#msg6293879We're directing wandering customers to the group buy: http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/news/13780541-special-easter-passover-discount-on-sp30-group-purchaseWe don't guarantee or promise ROI. We do believe it's a terrific deal with very good chance for an excellent ROI. We can't predict the hash-rate. We can't predict BTC value. We never said that we won't be accountable for delays. We did say that we'll deliver on time and on spec.We wouldn't have taken pre-orders if we had any doubts about our ability to deliver. We won't take pre-orders for our 3rd gen which is an higher risk. And what recourse do we have if you do not deliver on time/spec? NONE according to your own ToS. is it just myself & Smooth that seem to be baffled by the double speak here?? edgar, my 2 cents and we'll let spondoolies answer when he can. I think I read somewhere that the chips are being made now and will be delivered in july in time for assembly and shipping I am guessing mid to late August. I think spondoolies is saying they will do what they can but should some unforeseen event occur well then we will be S.O.L (unforeseen event = war, mother nature, catastrophe etc etc).
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