Maidsafe

[2Kool4Skewl]

This is like a bad joke.

[crimealone]

1.2 million in BTC for vaporware given to a charity with no legal comebacks......I really need to run an IPO.
Anyone want some EvilCoin?

Clueless as usual.

How so?  Maid Safe has been 8 years in development and it'll likely never release.  Everyone just gave these guys over a $1 million, that'll likely pay the six figure salaries for the developers for years to come.

Have you read the papers?

Have you looked at the code in GitHub?

Have you met David Irvine?

So you really are unqualified to make that judgement on whether $1 million (actually $2.5 million in BTC) was worth it.   Reality check,  VCs spend tens of millions on companies that go nowhere every day. 

These folks seem to have a system where resources contributed to the network add to the value of the network.  Unlike BTC, where mining just usually goes to waste energy.

Anyway,  I'm an investor here.  So if it pops like Ripple, then we are talking here of about a 10x gain at least.

I heard from others that dev use crowd sale mastercoins to buy safecoins. I saw the mastercoin's block and found that there were about 20000 mastercoins were transfered out then in. Did ripple guys do dirty things like this?

[hashtag101]

Amazing, truly amazing

[BADecker]

I am waiting to see my Safecoins in my Mastercoin protocol. It was a gamble, and it isn't over yet.

Thanks ;-) we are processing the BTC manually now with the help of the Master Protocol team, it was a rush for sure. We had and are having a few issues with omiwallet and I think the master exchanges are having some sync issues (if you used MSC to buy in). We have everything recoded though and the blockchain does to. Pretty leading edge for sure but it's secure. That's our main priority. I hope by end of today we have all the transactions done. Omiwallet needs to sync with a system that's under stress at the moment, it will hopefully resolve soon. Anyhow we are processing the inputs and the guys should have an on line spreadsheet showing the manual orders being processed as they are done. I do know they said it was painful, I am heading to the office to see if I can help now (3am, tired staff need coffee).  This is where though the blockchain is great, we can audit everything and make sure nobody loses out.

Thanks again

Is the crowd funder over now? I might throw in a bitcoin or two, but would like to know if I can still purchase some Safecoins. The website still has the address posted, I don't know if the cap has been reached.

From http://www.safecoin.io/:

If your funds are returned to you it is either because you have sent currency to the wrong exodus address, e.g. mastercoin to the bitcoin address, or all coins have been sold and the sale has ended.

...

Have you read the papers?

Have you looked at the code in GitHub?

Have you met David Irvine?

So you really are unqualified to make that judgement on whether $1 million (actually $2.5 million in BTC) was worth it.   Reality check,  VCs spend tens of millions on companies that go nowhere every day.  

These folks seem to have a system where resources contributed to the network add to the value of the network.  Unlike BTC, where mining just usually goes to waste energy.

Anyway,  I'm an investor here.  So if it pops like Ripple, then we are talking here of about a 10x gain at least.

Here are some folks who have done somewhat of an in-depth research on this:

http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/153829-2014-04-13-launching-pad-is-set-for-maidsafe-and-safecoin-april-22nd.htm

[Swordsoffreedom]

How come nobody's talking about this? http://maidsafe.net
Looks like one of the most innovative uses of
the blockchain concept since bitcoin itself. After
all it's it just about the money ;-)

People were talking about it the IPO pretty much is nearly sold out
Or I guess not really an IPO crowdfunding project
It is interesting stuff

[prophetx]

1.2 million in BTC for vaporware given to a charity with no legal comebacks......I really need to run an IPO.
Anyone want some EvilCoin?

Clueless as usual.

How so?  Maid Safe has been 8 years in development and it'll likely never release.  Everyone just gave these guys over a $1 million, that'll likely pay the six figure salaries for the developers for years to come.

Have you read the papers?

Have you looked at the code in GitHub?

Have you met David Irvine?

So you really are unqualified to make that judgement on whether $1 million (actually $2.5 million in BTC) was worth it.   Reality check,  VCs spend tens of millions on companies that go nowhere every day. 

These folks seem to have a system where resources contributed to the network add to the value of the network.  Unlike BTC, where mining just usually goes to waste energy.

Anyway,  I'm an investor here.  So if it pops like Ripple, then we are talking here of about a 10x gain at least.

I heard from others that dev use crowd sale mastercoins to buy safecoins. I saw the mastercoin's block and found that there were about 20000 mastercoins were transfered out then in. Did ripple guys do dirty things like this?

this tx was for the people that sent in 5000+ btc to get converted into maidsafecoin

[jabo38]

The website says, "To balance this, we decided to purchase all remaining MSAFE coins to ensure that backers who sent their bitcoins would have their orders fulfilled. This does mean that we can still accept bitcoin orders until the cut-off point at ~6000BTC." And they are at 5698 at the time of writing this.  Pretty amazing IPO.  https://blockchain.info/address/1KHfLixa2idRnZXMUfEisBati1vpywaH6E?offset=0&filter=0

Lots of people screaming scam, but I was impressed enough to send in some bitcoin. :-)

[FrictionlessCoin]

For the people that don't understand, it is very likely to be a scam :

The idea of paying for a decentralized peer-to-peer Internet is totally contradictory. If you get money to run nodes, then you'll inevitably end up with centralised nodes !

The fact that this copy of freenet omit to quote freenet and claim to be a new idea is the proof that MaidSafe is highly dodgy.

It could also be a manipulation to pump the price of MasterCoin up as the price per MSC is fixed.

The whole point of safecoin is that when you contribute a node, the P2P is enhanced.

Similar to Bitcoin in the sense that when you mine the coin, the P2P network becomes more secure.

Different from Bitcoin is that your node does contribute real value in terms of storage (and possibly other resources in the future).

I heard David Irvine speak and he sounds very idealistic and is on a mission.

[crunchynut]

omg! does it mean that when somebody decides to store some child porn in this decentralized dystopia of yours, everybody in the network will have some child porn on his pc?

no wonder that "THEY" are pushing this stuff that much. once established they don't need any secret police as every critic can be legally thrown into jail for child abuse.

[jabo38]

I am a little worried about this issue.  I am all for the rights and freedoms of people to do what they want, but when it comes to hurting children, I don't approve at all nor do I want to indirectly support that kind of thing.  The first thing that came to mind with this project was drugs, porn, sex, terrorism, and gambling.  I don't know if I really want my computer to be supporting that network.  At the same time I am not sure if there is anyway to tell just what my computer is supporting or not supporting as it is all encrypted and chopped in bits.  But enabling a network to do encourage the abuse of children isn't cool at all.  I am all for being able to go to political sites and send messages to my friends without google profiling me for adds and the NSA connecting all the dots of my existence, but at what cost?  For now, I am definitely supporting the maidsafe platform and hope that internally they can find ways to deal with certain distasteful issues. 

[BADecker]

omg! does it mean that when somebody decides to store some child porn in this decentralized dystopia of yours, everybody in the network will have some child porn on his pc?

Yep. It's a distinct possibility. However, if your computer has any porn on it this way, nobody will know it, because it will be encrypted and chunked.

no wonder that "THEY" are pushing this stuff that much. once established they don't need any secret police as every critic can be legally thrown into jail for child abuse.

If you force the issue with them, they have the burden not only of proof, but that you knowingly did it, and that you were actively pursuing illegal activity. Not all computers will necessarily have porn on them. So, they will need to prove yours does.

[BADecker]

I am a little worried about this issue.  I am all for the rights and freedoms of people to do what they want, but when it comes to hurting children, I don't approve at all nor do I want to indirectly support that kind of thing.  The first thing that came to mind with this project was drugs, porn, sex, terrorism, and gambling.  I don't know if I really want my computer to be supporting that network.  At the same time I am not sure if there is anyway to tell just what my computer is supporting or not supporting as it is all encrypted and chopped in bits.  But enabling a network to do encourage the abuse of children isn't cool at all.  I am all for being able to go to political sites and send messages to my friends without google profiling me for adds and the NSA connecting all the dots of my existence, but at what cost?  For now, I am definitely supporting the maidsafe platform and hope that internally they can find ways to deal with certain distasteful issues.  

The advent of MaidSafe in no way requires you to become part of their network. So you do not need to come that close to them. However, if you pay your legal taxes, you are supporting a whole lot of Government Senators and Congressmen who are into child porn right now. Your best bet - if you are not going to actively fight it - is to move to a deserted part of the world, live off the land, shut down all your interaction with society, and hope nobody ever comes for you. Otherwise you are going to be getting your hands dirty, accidentally, a little bit all the time, right now, without MaidSafe.

[crunchynut]

omg! does it mean that when somebody decides to store some child porn in this decentralized dystopia of yours, everybody in the network will have some child porn on his pc?

Yep. It's a distinct possibility. However, if your computer has any porn on it this way, nobody will know it, because it will be encrypted and chunked.

as a normal citizen, my concern already starts with the fact that there could be child porn on my computer and my activities could support child abuse. it does not start with the question whether somebody is able to discover this kind of sick content on my computer.

[TaunSew]

It's a legal issue and an appeal issue.  How many use TOR and how many companies would ditch their servers for a decentralized one?  Never mind the legal and ethical aspects as previously mentioned by another poster

[BADecker]

omg! does it mean that when somebody decides to store some child porn in this decentralized dystopia of yours, everybody in the network will have some child porn on his pc?

Yep. It's a distinct possibility. However, if your computer has any porn on it this way, nobody will know it, because it will be encrypted and chunked.

as a normal citizen, my concern already starts with the fact that there could be child porn on my computer and my activities could support child abuse. it does not start with the question whether somebody is able to discover this kind of sick content on my computer.

See: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=579424.msg6354242#msg6354242.

[BADecker]

The issue is whether or not you are going to live among modern society. ALL fiat currency is involved with distasteful and illegal activity. ALL government is serving and is served by distasteful and illegal activity. While MaidSafe might allow distasteful and illegal activity, it eventually will slow the governments way down, and this will slow the distasteful and illegal activity way down.

If you really hate unethical, immoral and illegal activity, start to do something about it. If you can't stand to even hear about it, you are totally in the wrong forum, the wrong society, and maybe in the wrong life.

Just remember, if there are other people wherever you go, there will ALWAYS be at least a smattering of BAD activity. You can't get away from it.

[crunchynut]

so your only argument is "yes, maidsafe supports all this sick stuff, but the government is hitler!!!" seriously?

[TaunSew]

so your only argument is "yes, maidsafe supports all this sick stuff, but the government is hitler!!!" seriously?

It's a red herring argument.  All this Maidsafe stuff is all about encouraging immoral activity.

[BADecker]

so your only argument is "yes, maidsafe supports all this sick stuff, but the government is hitler!!!" seriously?

Maidsafe works with anyone that works with it. This means that it will be supporting good at times and evil at other times.

Government deceptively brought the debt fiat currency system into being. This money method allows way more corruption and evil than Maidsafe could ever think of doing.

With MaidSafe, people will at least have the privacy so that they can join together and stamp out the evil. But they first have to open their eyes and see what is going on around them.

[paulsonnumismatics]

MaidSafe will have access to your data any time, will be able to sell it and I think they will do as they are greedy as hell.

I know is feeding the troll, but just one hint: The data will be ENCRYPTED. So no selling or accesing. ENCRYPTED.


Jesus.