[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[luigi1111]

Not exactly - I would route botnet hash through a proxy... otherwise I would DDoS the pool off the net by accident. Regardless, a pool isn't going to shut down income.

Route through a proxy ? Easy, once AVs detect it, its trivial to shut down.
There are ways other than IP addresses to detect a botnet, maybe thousands of miners all hashing at a different speed ?

*sigh*

If I run it through a proxy, it looks like one machine with varying hashrate, first of all. I meant similar to a Stratum proxy.
Secondly, not that trivial, as I would crypt the binary - AVs detect it, a new crypt often solves the issue. If they try to do it by connection, I can use a randomly selected proxy from multiple ones.

You sound like you are on drugs AGAIN. We can continue discussion when it wears off...

You sound like you just ran out of intelligent arguments! 

yeah, and isn't there an open source freely available miner proxy, which for all in tents and porpoises (there yah go luigi), was probably specifically made for bonnets?

That sentence was full of english wonder / inside jokes.

And your monero dash equivalence re: distribution might be valid if all botnets were operated by monero core team developers, and you'd think if that were the case they would have developed a GUI to make monero moon ASAP (and subsequently die because, yah know, the original bytecoin code needed much love, according to me, who has a proof of developer certificate (thats a bold faced lie (these are nested parentheses))), unless of course they did that on purpose because they're in for the long con, and they just dump hours and real money into the con to create better code and a cryptocurrency infrastructure (DNS checkpoints, etc) so all in all, I still give botnets a 4 on a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being harmful and 10 being useful.

anyhoo. How's the test fork in testnet? Hope its going well!!!
  

The bad phrase is "all intensive purposes", you muppet.

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[XMRChina]

I think there is an issue with the built in windows unzipper utility for files over 4 GB or so. I had an issue with downloading/unzipping a bootstrap for huntercoin, and it was due to trying to use windows unzipper. If the file is bigger than 4 GB, try using 7zip or something else to extract.

Are you using 0.9 beta build? There is no blockchain for it to download. You should sync from scratch (~3.5 hours for me).

Hmm...
I think its in RAM the problem. Its on 100% of usage when wants to read/loading blockchain(reaching in some time) and then when starts to update I get that error for "height", file is 4.2GB.
My RAM size is 3x2GB.
No, I've 886.

Thanks!

If you are on 0.8.8.6 you probably have insufficient RAM, the current binaries are quite old and slow. Basically everyone is waiting for the new binaries, which only use around 100 MB of RAM after syncing. Which OS are you on? And are you able to compile yourself?

The new binaries will allow many people to use Monero who did not have enough RAM for 0.8.8.6

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[primer-]

Not exactly - I would route botnet hash through a proxy... otherwise I would DDoS the pool off the net by accident. Regardless, a pool isn't going to shut down income.

Route through a proxy ? Easy, once AVs detect it, its trivial to shut down.
There are ways other than IP addresses to detect a botnet, maybe thousands of miners all hashing at a different speed ?

*sigh*

If I run it through a proxy, it looks like one machine with varying hashrate, first of all. I meant similar to a Stratum proxy.
Secondly, not that trivial, as I would crypt the binary - AVs detect it, a new crypt often solves the issue. If they try to do it by connection, I can use a randomly selected proxy from multiple ones.

You sound like you are on drugs AGAIN. We can continue discussion when it wears off...

You sound like you just ran out of intelligent arguments! 

If you tunnel a botnet through a proxy it's still easy to tell a botnet is behind it - thousands of miners mining at different speeds.
Crypting the miner and updating the binary on XX,XXX servers is harder than you think. You'd also need to crypt the downloader that is used for updating.
Randomly selecting proxies is not going to work, you'd need 100% stable proxies, private, not public. One costs around $3. You'd need thousands to hide the botnet...

My point is, pool owners can stop the botnets easy, make them use their private pools which we can then shut down with the help of AV and law enforcement...

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make them use their private pools which we can then shut down with the help of AV and law enforcement...

Go right ahead then. Most of the hash rate is not on identified pools, at least according to the minexmr chart. Maybe there is a better chart, I don't really know.

[primer-]

make them use their private pools which we can then shut down with the help of AV and law enforcement...

Go right ahead then. Most of the hash rate is not on identified pools, at least according to the minexmr chart. Maybe there is a better chart, I don't really know.

I've reported several huge botnets, all have been shut down. This is the reason i am asking for configuration files included in trojans...

[nioc]

make them use their private pools which we can then shut down with the help of AV and law enforcement...

Go right ahead then. Most of the hash rate is not on identified pools, at least according to the minexmr chart. Maybe there is a better chart, I don't really know.

https://monerohash.com/#network

minexmr currently shows only 2 pools + small + unknown at 61%
while monerohash shows 8 pools + small + unknown at 34%

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Not sure if this was ever linked in this thread but here is a full paper on Daniel J Burnstein's Curve25519 in depth http://cr.yp.to/ecdh/curve25519-20060209.pdf

[dEBRUYNE]

make them use their private pools which we can then shut down with the help of AV and law enforcement...

Go right ahead then. Most of the hash rate is not on identified pools, at least according to the minexmr chart. Maybe there is a better chart, I don't really know.

https://monerohash.com/#network

minexmr currently shows only 2 pools + small + unknown at 61%
while monerohash shows 8 pools + small + unknown at 34%

It's quite peculiar that monero.net shows n/a there, while a few months ago it had 2-3 MH/s of hashrate. Perhaps it went private, who knows.

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make them use their private pools which we can then shut down with the help of AV and law enforcement...

Go right ahead then. Most of the hash rate is not on identified pools, at least according to the minexmr chart. Maybe there is a better chart, I don't really know.

https://monerohash.com/#network

minexmr currently shows only 2 pools + small + unknown at 61%
while monerohash shows 8 pools + small + unknown at 34%

Thanks for the pointer, I wasn't aware of the monerohash chart. It indeed shows more pools, but still right now (the numbers vary over time) shows 48.4% unknown.

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Not sure if this was ever linked in this thread but here is a full paper on Daniel J Burnstein's Curve25519 in depth http://cr.yp.to/ecdh/curve25519-20060209.pdf

I really love this stuff. BUT, am not there yet. I pretty much need to keep my mind busy all the time or else damage ensues. Have some understanding of cryptography, or more like cryptographic algorithms, but does anyone have any resources that might slow down the math behind cryptographic algorithms at a pace I can step through. I dont mind looking up and learning some math along the way, or perhaps a lot of math. But understanding the effects of a cryptographic algorithm, and undestanding how it does what it does are two very different levels of understanding, and I would very much appreciate if someone could point me in a direction that would bridge that gap a bit.

[othe]

Not sure if this was ever linked in this thread but here is a full paper on Daniel J Burnstein's Curve25519 in depth http://cr.yp.to/ecdh/curve25519-20060209.pdf

I really love this stuff. BUT, am not there yet. I pretty much need to keep my mind busy all the time or else damage ensues. Have some understanding of cryptography, or more like cryptographic algorithms, but does anyone have any resources that might slow down the math behind cryptographic algorithms at a pace I can step through. I dont mind looking up and learning some math along the way, or perhaps a lot of math. But understanding the effects of a cryptographic algorithm, and undestanding how it does what it does are two very different levels of understanding, and I would very much appreciate if someone could point me in a direction that would bridge that gap a bit.

Heres a good introduction to ECC math from DJB and Tanja Lange: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6jTFxQaUJA

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Heres a good introduction to ECC math from DJB and Tanja Lange: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6jTFxQaUJA

Perfect. Thank you very much.

[florida.haunted]

It's quite peculiar that monero.net shows n/a there, while a few months ago it had 2-3 MH/s of hashrate. Perhaps it went private, who knows.

I confirm this. Look at their site - monero.net is NOT appear like a monero pool even! But it WAS.

I heard a rumor that monero.net was 100% core devs payout fee.

Can anybody say what does happen with monero.net? Things seem suspicious...

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I heard a rumor that monero.net was 100% core devs payout fee.

Can anybody say what does happen with monero.net? Things seem suspicious...

I'm not sure what you mean by 100% core devs payout fee. Donations maybe?

As far as I know no core team member has been directly involved with any pool.

I don't know what happened to monero.net.

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Nice find from iCEBREAKER:

Cherry on top: that tweet was Liked by @NickSzabo4.  

I did not notice that he liked my Tweet (Peter Todd quote regarding bitcoin, shapeshift and monero) until just now. It somewhat surprised me since he does not yet follow me on Twitter. I would love to get a quote from him about his views on Monero and CryptoNote. I messaged Peter Todd in advance of the Tweet to ask for permission to use it. Similarly I wont do much to publicize the "like" from Szabo unless he says something more.

[americanpegasus]

I would love to get a quote from him about his views on Monero and CryptoNote.

 
  
Seriously?  
  
Am I the only one who just assumed he was already active in the community under a pseudonym?  Of course someone like Szabo either a.) helped create Cryptonote/Monero or b.) learned about it pretty quickly after launch and got interested in it.  Again, this isn't Nyancoin here - this is the most legitimate project since the original Bitcoin. 
  
The only catch is that his name carries a lot of weight (and possibly a lot of unwanted attention at this stage) and so it might be best that he admires "from afar" for now.  
  
This is similar to the fact that you can bet your sweet ass that people like the head of JP Morgan and Bank of America own a personal store of Bitcoins though they would never be caught dead admitting it.  
  
Good news for people like me is that though quiet brilliance like Szabo and Turing moves and alters entire civilizations, it doesn't necessarily sell on stage.    So as long as there are flesh monkeys to persuade, loud and motivational arrogance like me still has a role to play in this game.

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I would love to get a quote from him about his views on Monero and CryptoNote.

 
  
The only catch is that his name carries a lot of weight (and possibly a lot of unwanted attention at this stage) and so it might be best that he admires "from afar" for now.  
  
This is similar to the fact that you can bet your sweet ass that people like the head of JP Morgan and Bank of America own a personal store of Bitcoins though they would never be caught dead admitting it.  

It is clear that many people are observing Monero development with interest. In addition to the creator(s) of CryptoNote, much credit is owed to the Monero development team for overhauling the codebase to make it more efficient and easier to understand. Monero Research Labs deserves a lot of credit for vetting our ideas for future improvements in both privacy and usability.

As Monero evolves I expect more and more brilliant minds will take notice and become visibly involved.  We are still at a very early stage.

[MoneroMooo]

New git updates since last time:

- blockchain_export can now create files compatible with NoodleDoodle's fast sync code
- speedup for the one-time database rescan to initialize hard fork into
- database dump utility, intended to detect differences between the several blockchain formats
- a new status command in the daemon, giving more user oriented information
- and random other fixes for DB potential issues, some RPC commands not working properly

Git updates since last time:

- simplewallet can be set to use a different default mixin than 4 (eg, set default-mixin
- more hardfork voting changes: first hard fork will not be voted on, due to complicated issues with alt chains
- block time change from 1 minute to 2 minutes (to take effect at the next fork)
- new show_transfers simplewallet command, to show in/out transactions in a more user friendly way
- more daemon commands now work again on the development branch, using 0MQ

[nioc]

//offtopic. I'll delete it if against the rules.

We are raising donations for this campaign. There are already 351$ and 0.0403 BTC in donations for Bojia:
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You could watch a short video about her case here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqmGkti9uUQ.
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Code:

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This may be the first non-governmental organization accepting Monero donations for its campaigns. We added OpenAlias xmr address to promena.org. It seems that the domain registrar is not adding TXT DNS records correctly with their GUI. They are adding "invisible spaces" like the space in the Monero address in bitcointalk (you could see the spaces here - type promena.org and select TXT record: http://manytools.org/network/query-dns-records-online). The result is that you can't add a valid OpenAlias address (or any valid long words TXT record). How many domain registrars are out there which are doing the same?

The domain registrar fixed their bug and the OpenAlias address promena.org is now working for the "Bojia" campaign. My contribution is 20 XMR. I'll make sure the total sum of Monero donations is cited at the end of the campaign and I'm pretty sure a successful campaign will catch some media attention (Bulgarian media are already following the "Bojia" case).

OpenAlias Monero address added to promena.org for the "Bojia" campaign. You could now send XMR to promena.org - there are 107 XMR in donations till now.

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