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January 07, 2016, 01:46:30 PM
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I like to mine with wallet.
1) Run the daemon (bitmonerod) and wait it to fully sync.
2) Run the wallet with --trusted-daemon:
Code:
simplewallet --wallet wallet.bin --trusted-daemon
3) In simplewallet enter:
Code:
start_mining 2
*The number (2) is for number of threads. In general for best results you should use CPU_Cache/2MB for the number, so if your CPU cash is 6MB use 3 and if it's 8MB use 4.
*You'll get better hash rate if you enable huge pages in your OS and restart.
*You could exit the wallet after you started mining (mining is in the daemon). In the daemon type show_hr to see the hash rate or hide_hr to hide it.

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January 07, 2016, 09:49:07 PM
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I like to mine with wallet.
1) Run the daemon (bitmonerod) and wait it to fully sync.
2) Run the wallet with --trusted-daemon:
Code:
simplewallet --wallet wallet.bin --trusted-daemon
3) In simplewallet enter:
Code:
start_mining 2
*The number (2) is for number of threads. In general for best results you should use CPU_Cache/2MB for the number, so if your CPU cash is 6MB use 3 and if it's 8MB use 4.
*You'll get better hash rate if you enable huge pages in your OS and restart.
*You could exit the wallet after you started mining (mining is in the daemon). In the daemon type show_hr to see the hash rate or hide_hr to hide it.

Where on the roadmap is OCL mining integration?  Is that part of the SmartMining wallet?

Nodes should be able to use the GPU without all the fuss of setting up a local pool front-end.

Doesn't it makes sense to put all the great AMD/nvidia code we paid Wolf0 to write in the standard distribution?


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January 07, 2016, 10:01:13 PM
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I like to mine with wallet.
1) Run the daemon (bitmonerod) and wait it to fully sync.
2) Run the wallet with --trusted-daemon:
Code:
simplewallet --wallet wallet.bin --trusted-daemon
3) In simplewallet enter:
Code:
start_mining 2
*The number (2) is for number of threads. In general for best results you should use CPU_Cache/2MB for the number, so if your CPU cash is 6MB use 3 and if it's 8MB use 4.
*You'll get better hash rate if you enable huge pages in your OS and restart.
*You could exit the wallet after you started mining (mining is in the daemon). In the daemon type show_hr to see the hash rate or hide_hr to hide it.

Where on the roadmap is OCL mining integration?  Is that part of the SmartMining wallet?

Nodes should be able to use the GPU without all the fuss of setting up a local pool front-end.

Doesn't it makes sense to put all the great AMD/nvidia code we paid Wolf0 to write in the standard distribution?

I agree, but Wolf0 has yet to fully tackle the solo mining component, and funding seems to have dried up for that effort because the optimize funds got fux0rd

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January 07, 2016, 10:04:20 PM
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I like to mine with wallet.
1) Run the daemon (bitmonerod) and wait it to fully sync.
2) Run the wallet with --trusted-daemon:
Code:
simplewallet --wallet wallet.bin --trusted-daemon
3) In simplewallet enter:
Code:
start_mining 2
*The number (2) is for number of threads. In general for best results you should use CPU_Cache/2MB for the number, so if your CPU cash is 6MB use 3 and if it's 8MB use 4.
*You'll get better hash rate if you enable huge pages in your OS and restart.
*You could exit the wallet after you started mining (mining is in the daemon). In the daemon type show_hr to see the hash rate or hide_hr to hide it.

Where on the roadmap is OCL mining integration?  Is that part of the SmartMining wallet?

Nodes should be able to use the GPU without all the fuss of setting up a local pool front-end.

Doesn't it makes sense to put all the great AMD/nvidia code we paid Wolf0 to write in the standard distribution?

Be careful - don't en-furry-ate Wolf0



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January 07, 2016, 10:05:11 PM
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I like to mine with wallet.
1) Run the daemon (bitmonerod) and wait it to fully sync.
2) Run the wallet with --trusted-daemon:
Code:
simplewallet --wallet wallet.bin --trusted-daemon
3) In simplewallet enter:
Code:
start_mining 2
*The number (2) is for number of threads. In general for best results you should use CPU_Cache/2MB for the number, so if your CPU cash is 6MB use 3 and if it's 8MB use 4.
*You'll get better hash rate if you enable huge pages in your OS and restart.
*You could exit the wallet after you started mining (mining is in the daemon). In the daemon type show_hr to see the hash rate or hide_hr to hide it.

Where on the roadmap is OCL mining integration?  Is that part of the SmartMining wallet?

Nodes should be able to use the GPU without all the fuss of setting up a local pool front-end.

Doesn't it makes sense to put all the great AMD/nvidia code we paid Wolf0 to write in the standard distribution?

Good pull requests are always accepted Smiley

BTW, if I'm not mistaken BBR has some degree of GPU mining support in the standard daemon so it isn't unprecedented at all.
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January 07, 2016, 10:16:13 PM
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I like to mine with wallet.
1) Run the daemon (bitmonerod) and wait it to fully sync.
2) Run the wallet with --trusted-daemon:
Code:
simplewallet --wallet wallet.bin --trusted-daemon
3) In simplewallet enter:
Code:
start_mining 2
*The number (2) is for number of threads. In general for best results you should use CPU_Cache/2MB for the number, so if your CPU cash is 6MB use 3 and if it's 8MB use 4.
*You'll get better hash rate if you enable huge pages in your OS and restart.
*You could exit the wallet after you started mining (mining is in the daemon). In the daemon type show_hr to see the hash rate or hide_hr to hide it.

Where on the roadmap is OCL mining integration?  Is that part of the SmartMining wallet?

Nodes should be able to use the GPU without all the fuss of setting up a local pool front-end.

Doesn't it makes sense to put all the great AMD/nvidia code we paid Wolf0 to write in the standard distribution?

Good pull requests are always accepted Smiley


A pull request isn't "good" if it conflicts with the roadmap and risks/entails later duplication of effort.   Wink

Is the IntelliHashing SmartWallet intended to be CPU only or not?   Huh

How close or far is Wolf0's OCL project from being ready for solo mining?

Since the pool code is done, would it make sense to include that as a (kludgey) middleware layer to enable solo GPU mining out-of-the-box?


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whether we have a dictatorship or a real democracy." 
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Last edit: January 07, 2016, 10:31:11 PM by smooth
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I like to mine with wallet.
1) Run the daemon (bitmonerod) and wait it to fully sync.
2) Run the wallet with --trusted-daemon:
Code:
simplewallet --wallet wallet.bin --trusted-daemon
3) In simplewallet enter:
Code:
start_mining 2
*The number (2) is for number of threads. In general for best results you should use CPU_Cache/2MB for the number, so if your CPU cash is 6MB use 3 and if it's 8MB use 4.
*You'll get better hash rate if you enable huge pages in your OS and restart.
*You could exit the wallet after you started mining (mining is in the daemon). In the daemon type show_hr to see the hash rate or hide_hr to hide it.

Where on the roadmap is OCL mining integration?  Is that part of the SmartMining wallet?

Nodes should be able to use the GPU without all the fuss of setting up a local pool front-end.

Doesn't it makes sense to put all the great AMD/nvidia code we paid Wolf0 to write in the standard distribution?

Good pull requests are always accepted Smiley


A pull request isn't "good" if it conflicts with the roadmap and risks/entails later duplication of effort.   Wink

Is the IntelliHashing SmartWallet intended to be CPU only or not?   Huh

How close or far is Wolf0's OCL project from being ready for solo mining?

Since the pool code is done, would it make sense to include that as a (kludgey) middleware layer to enable solo GPU mining out-of-the-box?

Nobody is working on it afaik so there is no duplication of effort. FFS on "integrate GPU mining with daemon" is another option; the discussion there would likely flush out any potential duplication.

There is no official policy on smartmining being CPU only. It just depends what code there is.
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January 07, 2016, 10:35:07 PM
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FFS on "integrate GPU mining with daemon" is another option; the discussion there would likely flush out any potential duplication.

"FFS?"

Forum Funding System?


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whether we have a dictatorship or a real democracy." 
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January 08, 2016, 03:45:05 AM
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Confidential Transactions - controversial and difficult in Bitcoin:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3zv7rt/confidential_transactions_might_kill_bitcoin/

I often don't find common ground with Luke-Jr, but his thoughts seem pretty much on the money here:

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I wouldn't worry about it. For better or worse, CT isn't likely to be considered for Bitcoin's main blockchain any time soon. Contrary to recent assertions, it is not softfork-able, and would be controversial to add as a hardfork due to the proof sizes (at least).

TLDR; HODL Monero. It's going to be difficult for Bitcoin to directly integrate privacy features in the near future.

This reminds me of what Luke-Jr said last February, that he "would expect to see ring signatures in Bitcoin within 2-3 years".
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January 08, 2016, 09:44:10 AM
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Hy Guys,
glad to have the DB support now in the official binaries!!!
I am just wondering in terms of the wallet encryption. I read somewhere that simplewallet in 0.9 encrypts the wallet files. Now i am using wallets from the "old" release 0.8.8.6
How can i transfer my old wallets into new encrypted wallets?

Thanks for your response in advance!

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January 08, 2016, 10:33:01 AM
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How can i transfer my old wallets into new encrypted wallets?

You need to exit simplewallet, or type "save" in there. It can read both encrypted and unencrypted wallets, but always writes encrypted ones.

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January 08, 2016, 11:24:48 AM
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Is it true that on poloniex some guy uses QTL trader on monero?
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January 08, 2016, 12:51:35 PM
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I beat Dr. Bookmarks to it (aka Debruyne)!

https://forum.getmonero.org/8/funding-required/2450/ring-ct-c-crypto

A Noether is asking for funding for the ring confidential transaction stuff!!!!

< Track your bitcoins! > < Track them again! > <<< [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1qomqt/what_a_landmark_legal_case_from_mid1700s_scotland/] What is fungibility? >>> 46P88uZ4edEgsk7iKQUGu2FUDYcdHm2HtLFiGLp1inG4e4f9PTb4mbHWYWFZGYUeQidJ8hFym2WUmWc p34X8HHmFS2LXJkf <<< Free subdomains at moneroworld.com!! >>> <<< If you don't want to run your own node, point your wallet to node.moneroworld.com, and get connected to a random node! @@@@ FUCK ALL THE PROFITEERS! PROOF OF WORK OR ITS A SCAM !!! @@@@
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January 08, 2016, 02:39:12 PM
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I beat Dr. Bookmarks to it (aka Debruyne)!

https://forum.getmonero.org/8/funding-required/2450/ring-ct-c-crypto

A Noether is asking for funding for the ring confidential transaction stuff!!!!

:-(

A bit more detailed reply:

Funding required for implementation of Ring Confidential Transactions (CT) (by Shen Noether aka NobleSir), which will also enable the implementation of ring multi-signature!

https://forum.getmonero.org/7/open-tasks/2450/ring-ct-c-crypto

Shen's comment regarding ring multi-signature:

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Yes - there are a couple of ways to go with the multisig - once the MG sigs are there, the method detailed in section 4.4 here https://www.overleaf.com/read/qzgytbyyxvyf is available (probably even without the CT part of, but then you have to be more careful with amounts).

All updates, whitepapers etc. regarding Ring Confidential Transactions (CT) can be found here ->  https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3pw30d/ringct_for_monero_updated_versions/

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January 08, 2016, 04:05:27 PM
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I beat Dr. Bookmarks to it (aka Debruyne)!

https://forum.getmonero.org/8/funding-required/2450/ring-ct-c-crypto

A Noether is asking for funding for the ring confidential transaction stuff!!!!

2375 of 3150 XMR funded in 5 hours. Impressive. I can't use my wallet until Monday, but I'll throw a few XMR into the hat if any are still needed (which looks doubtful with this progress).
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I beat Dr. Bookmarks to it (aka Debruyne)!

https://forum.getmonero.org/8/funding-required/2450/ring-ct-c-crypto

A Noether is asking for funding for the ring confidential transaction stuff!!!!

2375 of 3150 XMR funded in 5 hours. Impressive. I can't use my wallet until Monday, but I'll throw a few XMR into the hat if any are still needed (which looks doubtful with this progress).
Q

Fully funded already :-)

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January 08, 2016, 07:39:14 PM
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I beat Dr. Bookmarks to it (aka Debruyne)!

https://forum.getmonero.org/8/funding-required/2450/ring-ct-c-crypto

A Noether is asking for funding for the ring confidential transaction stuff!!!!

:-(

A bit more detailed reply:

Funding required for implementation of Ring Confidential Transactions (CT) (by Shen Noether aka NobleSir), which will also enable the implementation of ring multi-signature!

https://forum.getmonero.org/7/open-tasks/2450/ring-ct-c-crypto

Shen's comment regarding ring multi-signature:

Quote
Yes - there are a couple of ways to go with the multisig - once the MG sigs are there, the method detailed in section 4.4 here https://www.overleaf.com/read/qzgytbyyxvyf is available (probably even without the CT part of, but then you have to be more careful with amounts).

All updates, whitepapers etc. regarding Ring Confidential Transactions (CT) can be found here ->  https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3pw30d/ringct_for_monero_updated_versions/

Forgive me, but I think I'm remembering somethings incorrectly... but weren't ring signatures already implemented in Monero before hand?
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January 08, 2016, 08:09:15 PM
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I beat Dr. Bookmarks to it (aka Debruyne)!

https://forum.getmonero.org/8/funding-required/2450/ring-ct-c-crypto

A Noether is asking for funding for the ring confidential transaction stuff!!!!

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A bit more detailed reply:

Funding required for implementation of Ring Confidential Transactions (CT) (by Shen Noether aka NobleSir), which will also enable the implementation of ring multi-signature!

https://forum.getmonero.org/7/open-tasks/2450/ring-ct-c-crypto

Shen's comment regarding ring multi-signature:

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Yes - there are a couple of ways to go with the multisig - once the MG sigs are there, the method detailed in section 4.4 here https://www.overleaf.com/read/qzgytbyyxvyf is available (probably even without the CT part of, but then you have to be more careful with amounts).

All updates, whitepapers etc. regarding Ring Confidential Transactions (CT) can be found here ->  https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3pw30d/ringct_for_monero_updated_versions/

Forgive me, but I think I'm remembering somethings incorrectly... but weren't ring signatures already implemented in Monero before hand?

Ring signatures are inherent to the Monero protocol and achieve untraceability.

Ring Confidential Transactions hides the amounts (amounts are, even though obscured, still visibile on the blockchain and therefore an attack vector) as well, therefore strengthening the anonymity of Monero. CT basically solves a bunch of loose ends of Monero's anonymity.

Ring multi-signature is basically multi-signature (same idea as Bitcoin) for Monero including transactions with ring signatures (all those with mixin > 0). Previously, only multi-signature for transactions with mixin = 0 was possible. If I recall correctly, they will be indistinguishable from "regular" transactions.  

Hope all is clear now.

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January 08, 2016, 10:27:57 PM
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Forgive me, but I think I'm remembering somethings incorrectly... but weren't ring signatures already implemented in Monero before hand?

Ring signatures are inherent to the Monero protocol and achieve untraceability.

Ring Confidential Transactions hides the amounts (amounts are, even though obscured, still visibile on the blockchain and therefore an attack vector) as well, therefore strengthening the anonymity of Monero. CT basically solves a bunch of loose ends of Monero's anonymity.

Ring multi-signature is basically multi-signature (same idea as Bitcoin) for Monero including transactions with ring signatures (all those with mixin > 0). Previously, only multi-signature for transactions with mixin = 0 was possible. If I recall correctly, they will be indistinguishable from "regular" transactions.  

Hope all is clear now.

Oh ok, so it goes like this for the order of development of Monero's anonymity? :

1) Ring Signature  --> 2) CT --> 3) Ring multi-signatures?  I'm assuming 3 combines 1 and 2, plus being able to "sign" messages in a more abstract way?
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