[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[Taxidermista]

Does anybody know how to get rid of 3.15 XMR that I mined at Moneropool.com? I've tried send it to Poloniex in batches of 1.5, 1, 0.5, 0.2... nothings works. Sending over 1.5 does not work, "transaction too big" error. Smallest amounts seems to work at first but minutes later the coins come back to my wallet. I've never seen a piece of shit like this. 

Are you using the 0.8.8 wallet? With latest wallet you pay a fee, but should be able to convert your small change to coin. There is a point where the dust is worthless, but mining pools should not issue that dust in the first place. Don't join a pool where your share of the hash is microscopic.

Yes, I'm using the 0.8.8 wallet. I've tried to send 0.5 or 0.2 coins to Poloniex and the transfer went fine at first, no errors, but a couple of minutes later the coins were back in my wallet 

I mined with 250 H/s, nothing too high or low, and the pool has 30% of the network hashrate at that moment.

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[florida.haunted]

Hi!

I am becoming a fan of monero due to its fundamental conceptualily. I have just read this news, may be Monero 100% complys the conditions:

GlobalSign gives free class 'A' SSL certificates to open source projects.

Link:

https://www.globalsign.com/ssl/ssl-open-source/

[Keyboard-Mash]

http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=java

Does this explain why people dont like Java? (Besides other valid reasons.)

I don't know about Anoncoin but Java is a serious vector for online malware and is one of the most vulnerable software out there, a c++ router would be much more safer.

Thanks, these both help a lot! The point I'm trying to make is that to anyone who has never been to this thread or heard of Monero before, this can and will look like a lot of useless coding when there's already a working implementation. (example - I continue to use windows although its a massive attack vector .. but it gives me AutoCAD so I use it instead of ubuntu on my main computer)

As Anoncoin was first in the implementation, it will be an absolute necessity that I2P with Monero is marketed otherwise it's just going to cause a lot of confusion. I promise that will be the result if this isn't made clear. I figured two weeks would be a good time frame before I started pushing for a discussion.

What other valid reasons can you think of dewdeded? Also, lol at the link that's a lot of problems!

Please keep in mind I'm not looking to bash Anoncoin, but instead I'm trying to find a marketable definition of why that wasn't good enough.

How much safer would you think it would be Nekomata? What kind of safety issues outside of malware vectors are there, if any?

I'm not a security specialist, but its not hard to find reasons why Java allows plenty of malware:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_security#Potential_sources_of_security_vulnerabilities_in_Java_applications

Hm, I'll look around for more material .. maybe people will link a few more things as well?

Something I'm trying to get at -- looking at the massive list that dewdeded linked, you can get a good idea on exactly what kind of extent people are willing to put up with for platforms like Citrix, Oracle and I've seen a few Java CMMS systems .. and I know there's more.

Businesses and people using these systems deal with these vulnerabilities (either directly or indirectly) every day because of the perceived gains they get despite them. The software is still widely used .. and isn't going away just because someone made a c++ version of it.

Back to the point -- how can we "market" the idea that a c++ I2P router is something to be thrilled over (rather than a Java one) to people who are not security specialists. Getting one person with the technical depth to understand is trivial, but getting tens of thousands (who very likely may not have even heard of Java or c++ before) to feel like they understand is a suitable challenge.

Using the vulnerabilities is a pretty good starting point .. but it's kind of bland and washed out when it comes to trying to drive your point home. Everybody elses ideas are always bad when yours is good. Rather than focus on what a Java router can't do correctly .. what can a c++ one do that a Java one couldn't? Apart from their main goal of acting as I2P routers is there any apparent gains, besides attack/vulnerability surfaces?

Not everyone using Monero will be a computer security specialist .. actually I would hope security specialists to be a greatly enjoyed minority rather than the entire community of monero When I use the term "market" I mean literally "remove confusion from" .. not "turn this into a market pump" which sadly seems to be the general connotation of the term..

[polecrab]

Does anybody know how to get rid of 3.15 XMR that I mined at Moneropool.com? I've tried send it to Poloniex in batches of 1.5, 1, 0.5, 0.2... nothings works. Sending over 1.5 does not work, "transaction too big" error. Smallest amounts seems to work at first but minutes later the coins come back to my wallet. I've never seen a piece of shit like this. 

Are you using the 0.8.8 wallet? With latest wallet you pay a fee, but should be able to convert your small change to coin. There is a point where the dust is worthless, but mining pools should not issue that dust in the first place. Don't join a pool where your share of the hash is microscopic.

Yes, I'm using the 0.8.8 wallet. I've tried to send 0.5 or 0.2 coins to Poloniex and the transfer went fine at first, no errors, but a couple of minutes later the coins were back in my wallet 

I mined with 250 H/s, nothing too high or low, and the pool has 30% of the network hashrate at that moment.

I presume your transactions are rejected because they are a waste of space in the blockchain. I didn't join that pool for the same reason as your problem, even though it means I have to put up with orphans.  That pool has too high a share of the global hash - miners should move away from it for the health of the coin. Every block they find you get a tiny fraction sent to you. If you have such a hash rate, join a direct pay pool that has about 2% or less of the global hash or join a pool that requires registration and accumulates your shares for you. You have to trust them either way.

[followtheboss]

QCN got his GUI wallet on MacOS 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600658.msg7196776#msg7196776

cheers

[Keyboard-Mash]

QCN got his GUI wallet on MacOS  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600658.msg7196776#msg7196776

cheers

Awesome for him! I think everyone that wants to use/mine QCN on a mac will benefit greatly!

[Keyboard-Mash]

Does anybody know how to get rid of 3.15 XMR that I mined at Moneropool.com? I've tried send it to Poloniex in batches of 1.5, 1, 0.5, 0.2... nothings works. Sending over 1.5 does not work, "transaction too big" error. Smallest amounts seems to work at first but minutes later the coins come back to my wallet. I've never seen a piece of shit like this. 

Are you using the 0.8.8 wallet? With latest wallet you pay a fee, but should be able to convert your small change to coin. There is a point where the dust is worthless, but mining pools should not issue that dust in the first place. Don't join a pool where your share of the hash is microscopic.

Yes, I'm using the 0.8.8 wallet. I've tried to send 0.5 or 0.2 coins to Poloniex and the transfer went fine at first, no errors, but a couple of minutes later the coins were back in my wallet 

I mined with 250 H/s, nothing too high or low, and the pool has 30% of the network hashrate at that moment.

I presume your transactions are rejected because they are a waste of space in the blockchain. I didn't join that pool for the same reason as your problem, even though it means I have to put up with orphans.  That pool has too high a share of the global hash - miners should move away from it for the health of the coin. Every block they find you get a tiny fraction sent to you. If you have such a hash rate, join a direct pay pool that has about 2% or less of the global hash or join a pool that requires registration and accumulates your shares for you. You have to trust them either way.

Oh, I see it now. Let's take the net hash for the last week to be 3.5 million.

30% of that is 1.05 million hashes/sec. They will get 30% of the blocks per day which is 432 blocks / day. This means any wallet you have mining there will get at least 432 payments per day.

Your hashes are 250. You would get ~.103 blocks / day which is about 2-3 days to get the amount in your wallet right now.

Your little amount is composed of probably over 1000 transactions. That's absolutely insane, because for you to send even half a monero would max an entire block and decrease the block reward by as much as 9% .

This is an insane amount and why it's highly recommended you mine at a pool that doesn't do this to you. If you don't have a problem with closed source, minergate won't do this to you. Your other option is to mine at a pool with a lower hashrate, increasing the amount of payments. Your other option is to not mine at these pools, as it would be insane to sit there and send to yourself over and over again for 20 minutes every few days. Lastly, you can bear with the pool and just send yourself the small payments to "consolidate" so that you can bear with them until the software is better matched to this protocol.

[Taxidermista]

Does anybody know how to get rid of 3.15 XMR that I mined at Moneropool.com? I've tried send it to Poloniex in batches of 1.5, 1, 0.5, 0.2... nothings works. Sending over 1.5 does not work, "transaction too big" error. Smallest amounts seems to work at first but minutes later the coins come back to my wallet. I've never seen a piece of shit like this.  

Are you using the 0.8.8 wallet? With latest wallet you pay a fee, but should be able to convert your small change to coin. There is a point where the dust is worthless, but mining pools should not issue that dust in the first place. Don't join a pool where your share of the hash is microscopic.

Yes, I'm using the 0.8.8 wallet. I've tried to send 0.5 or 0.2 coins to Poloniex and the transfer went fine at first, no errors, but a couple of minutes later the coins were back in my wallet  

I mined with 250 H/s, nothing too high or low, and the pool has 30% of the network hashrate at that moment.

I presume your transactions are rejected because they are a waste of space in the blockchain. I didn't join that pool for the same reason as your problem, even though it means I have to put up with orphans.  That pool has too high a share of the global hash - miners should move away from it for the health of the coin. Every block they find you get a tiny fraction sent to you. If you have such a hash rate, join a direct pay pool that has about 2% or less of the global hash or join a pool that requires registration and accumulates your shares for you. You have to trust them either way.

Thank you for your answer. I guess botnets have no problem at all transfering its fucking coins. C'est la vie...

This is an insane amount and why it's highly recommended you mine at a pool that doesn't do this to you. If you don't have a problem with closed source, minergate won't do this to you. Your other option is to mine at a pool with a lower hashrate, increasing the amount of payments. Your other option is to not mine at these pools, as it would be insane to sit there and send to yourself over and over again for 20 minutes every few days. Lastly, you can bear with the pool and just send yourself the small payments to "consolidate" so that you can bear with them until the software is better matched to this protocol.

Yes, Minergate seems to be the only option available for a variance-intolerant like me. The problem is that Minergate withdrawals are a nightmare too. 

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Does anybody know how to get rid of 3.15 XMR that I mined at Moneropool.com? I've tried send it to Poloniex in batches of 1.5, 1, 0.5, 0.2... nothings works. Sending over 1.5 does not work, "transaction too big" error. Smallest amounts seems to work at first but minutes later the coins come back to my wallet. I've never seen a piece of shit like this. 

Are you using the 0.8.8 wallet? With latest wallet you pay a fee, but should be able to convert your small change to coin. There is a point where the dust is worthless, but mining pools should not issue that dust in the first place. Don't join a pool where your share of the hash is microscopic.

Yes, I'm using the 0.8.8 wallet. I've tried to send 0.5 or 0.2 coins to Poloniex and the transfer went fine at first, no errors, but a couple of minutes later the coins were back in my wallet 

I mined with 250 H/s, nothing too high or low, and the pool has 30% of the network hashrate at that moment.

I presume your transactions are rejected because they are a waste of space in the blockchain. I didn't join that pool for the same reason as your problem, even though it means I have to put up with orphans.  That pool has too high a share of the global hash - miners should move away from it for the health of the coin. Every block they find you get a tiny fraction sent to you. If you have such a hash rate, join a direct pay pool that has about 2% or less of the global hash or join a pool that requires registration and accumulates your shares for you. You have to trust them either way.

Oh, I see it now. Let's take the net hash for the last week to be 3.5 million.

30% of that is 1.05 million hashes/sec. They will get 30% of the blocks per day which is 432 blocks / day. This means any wallet you have mining there will get at least 432 payments per day.

Your hashes are 250. You would get ~.103 blocks / day which is about 2-3 days to get the amount in your wallet right now.

Your little amount is composed of probably over 1000 transactions. That's absolutely insane, because for you to send even half a monero would max an entire block and decrease the block reward by as much as 9% .

This is an insane amount and why it's highly recommended you mine at a pool that doesn't do this to you. If you don't have a problem with closed source, minergate won't do this to you. Your other option is to mine at a pool with a lower hashrate, increasing the amount of payments. Your other option is to not mine at these pools, as it would be insane to sit there and send to yourself over and over again for 20 minutes every few days. Lastly, you can bear with the pool and just send yourself the small payments to "consolidate" so that you can bear with them until the software is better matched to this protocol.

If I am not mistaken, moneropool.com does not pay out every block but in larger batches instead.

[Keyboard-Mash]

If I am not mistaken, moneropool.com does not pay out every block but in larger batches instead.

But they did that in what .. last week or few days?

Does it matter if they don't pay out every single block if whatever they did still doesn't work? The fella still can't even send .2 MRO without risking destroying 1.5 MRO every single time a consolidation transaction is made.

Assuming .2 is max he can send he's going to risk permanently eliminating an entire blocks worth of MRO just to spend 3.15 MRO ... lol.

[wxyzups]

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[dreamspark]

Not sure if its been mentioned here yet but Monero is on the Mintpal voting list so get voting!

https://www.mintpal.com/voting

[GreekBitcoin]

Not sure if its been mentioned here yet but Monero is on the Mintpal voting list so get voting!

https://www.mintpal.com/voting

I was about to post it Thats good news!

Also dont forget cryptsy https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/4000277700

[David Latapie]

Not sure if its been mentioned here yet but Monero is on the Mintpal voting list so get voting!

https://www.mintpal.com/voting

More specifically: https://www.mintpal.com/voting#XMR

[devphp]

To Monero devs and enthusiasts.

Do you think there is a reputable and trustworthy individual among you who would be interested to set up an exchange buro of Moneros on the NXT Asset Exchange? I noticed, not many centralized exchanges are willing to create XMR/BTC trading pairs, due to Monero differences in software from Bitcoin forks.

NXT AE allows someone to operate as an exchange buro and profit from setting the price of an asset and charge redemption commissions.

Here is how it works briefly.

Suppose, some NXTers would like to purchase Moneros on the NXT AE. Someone trustworthy in the Monero community can create a Monero asset on the NXT AE, tradeable for NXTs. Hence, a XMR/NXT exchange rate will be discovered. According to the Poloniex last trade it should be in the range of 21-22 NXTs per 1 Monero at this time, and then the free market will decide the rate.

This trustworthy individual will have to redeem the Monero tokens when people on the NXT AE transfer him the asset units they purchased from him, and he will have to send them real Moneros in exchange. He can charge them a 0.5% or so redemption fee, and can set the minimum redemption amount, say, 10 Moneros, and timeframe to process the withdrawal, say, 24 hours time frame.

This step will benefit both communites, as it will help establish a XMR/NXT exchange rate, put Monero on yet another exchange, which I noticed there are not that many of, and create more demand for Monero. The NXT Asset Exchange is decentralized, so Monero can pioneer being the first currency to trade on it. Actually, some Qora users are also interested to set up their exchange buro on the NXT AE as well, the NXT AE can welcome all

[David Latapie]

To Monero devs and enthusiasts.

Do you think there is a reputable and trustworthy individual among you who would be interested to set up an exchange buro of Moneros on the NXT Asset Exchange? I noticed, not many centralized exchanges are willing to create XMR/BTC trading pairs, due to Monero differences in software from Bitcoin forks.

NXT AE allows someone to operate as an exchange buro and profit from setting the price of an asset and charge redemption commissions.

Here is how it works briefly.

Suppose, some NXTers would like to purchase Moneros on the NXT AE. Someone trustworthy in the Monero community can create a Monero asset on the NXT AE, tradeable for NXTs. Hence, a XMR/NXT exchange rate will be discovered. According to the Poloniex last trade it should be in the range of 21-22 NXTs per 1 Monero at this time, and then the free market will decide the rate.

This trustworthy individual will have to redeem the Monero tokens when people on the NXT AE transfer him the asset units they purchased from him, and he will have to send them real Moneros in exchange. He can charge them a 0.5% or so redemption fee, and can set the minimum redemption amount, say, 10 Moneros, and timeframe to process the withdrawal, say, 24 hours time frame.

This step will benefit both communites, as it will help establish a XMR/NXT exchange rate, put Monero on yet another exchange, which I noticed there are not that many of, and create more demand for Monero. The NXT Asset Exchange is decentralized, so Monero can pioneer being the first currency to trade on it. Actually, some Qora users are also interested to set up their exchange buro on the NXT AE as well, the NXT AE can welcome all

Since I really like NXT, this catches my attention. I will consider it.

[David Latapie]

Alright, the CSS is... almost non existant, but at least all the data are there: http://monero.cc/getting-started/
Point people at it.

Edit : 11 votes on mintpal

[TheKoziTwo]

Made a little script for converting wallet keys to a printable string and back: https://cryptonote.exchange.to/paper_wallet.php

maybe someone will find it useful, should work with all cryptonote currencies..

[zechiel]

Hello everybody,

This is my first post here in bitcointalk (but i have been following it for some times now ..).
As I really love monero, i decided to start my involvement in it by setting up a pool.

Fees are 0% !

The pool is hosted on an 8-core dedicated VPS, hosted in France and is available to this address :

http://monero.chickenkiller.com

Thanks to everybody for helping me launching the pool

See ya !

Edit : template and adding pool location

https://i.imgur.com/dWW5iir.png

Can anyone explain this odd discrepancy (my first three hashes submitted to monero.chickenkiller.com:8080)?

[yabit]

I want to use the "data-dir" option (Win7) to locate the blockchain in the same folder as bitmonerod.exe.
Created a bitmonero.conf in the same directory as the deamon with the following text:

data-dir=.\data

It does not work. What may be wrong?