[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[blaaaaacksuit]

"Massive" buy wall at 280 of 30 BTC... nice to see 

It's gone again, and it never got filled, just some fake out.  Then somebody throws up a 27BTC sell wall.

[Spekulatius]

lol 27 BTC sell wall on 0.0031, 12 BTC BUY wall at 0.0018  PING PONG TIME!

[blaaaaacksuit]

lol 27 BTC sell wall on 0.0031, 12 BTC BUY wall at 0.0018  PING PONG TIME!

It's all sells now.  Sometimes I think this is just DRK whales.

[coine_smithe]

Hey guys, is there any way for investors to see what point you are at on the emission curve? The PoW is killing the price and there's no point from an investor's point of view to buy this coin right now. I like the technology though.

[smooth]

i am not in the irc chat - is there something fundamentally broken or other fud? or is this just market madness?

There is FUD at the moment going on about Bytecoin, that CryptoNote based coins have a backdoor.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=512747.msg7018325#msg7018325

Personally I think this is a load of rubbish, many people here have read the entire codebase [1] of Monero (that is mostly the original CryptoNote implementation) and there seems to be no evidence of these special keys.

[1] I am sure I heard that some of the Monero developers have been over the code. I wouldn't mind this being confirmed again.

Seriously? Do not believe anything that comes from a troll box. And this one doesn't even come from the trollbox, it comes from someone claiming to have seen it in a troll box. What a joke.

[blaaaaacksuit]

i am not in the irc chat - is there something fundamentally broken or other fud? or is this just market madness?

There is FUD at the moment going on about Bytecoin, that CryptoNote based coins have a backdoor.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=512747.msg7018325#msg7018325

Personally I think this is a load of rubbish, many people here have read the entire codebase [1] of Monero (that is mostly the original CryptoNote implementation) and there seems to be no evidence of these special keys.

[1] I am sure I heard that some of the Monero developers have been over the code. I wouldn't mind this being confirmed again.

Seriously? Do not believe anything that comes from a troll box. And this one doesn't even come from the trollbox, it comes from someone claiming to have seen it in a troll box. What a joke.

People actually dumped coins over this? LOL

[Keyboard-Mash]

Seriously? Do not believe anything that comes from a troll box. And this one doesn't even come from the trollbox, it comes from someone claiming to have seen it in a troll box. What a joke.

People actually dumped coins over this? LOL

Yeah, shows up in troll box, and then someone shows up who claims to have mined only 500 million in an entire year. Then basically says he hasn't done anything with them because "he checked and they're still there", but there are services he can't share that he probably uses all the time.

Troll box pump attempt for sure! They're getting creative now though, usually they stay contained in the box but now they're all over the place.


edit: Also, that site ... there's no pgp keys to verify the author of the site. Don't know what's up but that's a flag for me.

[darlidada]

I get this error while trying to use the latest x64 binaries:

2014-May-31 07:21:07.329516 bitmonero v0.8.8.1(0.1-g328a52a)
2014-May-31 07:21:07.331516 Module folder: C:\Users\Bali\Downloads\monero.win.x64.latest(2)\bitmonerod.exe
2014-May-31 07:21:07.337516 Initializing p2p server...
2014-May-31 07:21:07.340516 ERROR c:\temp\monero\git-experimental\bitmonero-0.8.8update-x64\src\p2p\net_node.inl:82 Exception at [node_server::init_config], what=invalid signature
2014-May-31 07:21:07.347517 ERROR c:\temp\monero\git-experimental\bitmonero-0.8.8update-x64\src\p2p\net_node.inl:204 Failed to init config.
2014-May-31 07:21:07.352517 ERROR ..\..\src\daemon\daemon.cpp:148 Failed to initialize p2p server.
2014-May-31 07:21:07.356517 Mining has been stopped, 0 finished

Am i the only one?

[tukernun]

When i trying transfer moneros on poloniex, there is an error: transfer is too big. 8 or 6 or 4 or 3 monero- it does not matter- always error. what i am doing wrong for this time?
Smth like this:

Error: transaction <def7135a464822e763be5ca8764b228acc1f33fb8a07bf0670a939ed71dad266> is too big. Transaction size: 84683 bytes, transaction size limit: 24400 bytes

[Keyboard-Mash]

When i trying transfer moneros on poloniex, there is an error: transfer is too big. 8 or 6 or 4 or 3 monero- it does not matter- always error. what i am doing wrong for this time?

Have you tried really small amounts? The transfer being too big is cause by many small inputs coming together. Like in effect, if someone sent you 3 moneros and then sent those same 3 to someone else, then the transfer would be relatively small in size (bytes). But, if someone sent you .01 moneros 300 times, to make 3 moneros then your transfer would be really big in size (bytes). It's just how the protocol works for now. There's usually nothing you're doing wrong. Have you tried sending extremely small transaction sizes? like .1 MRO? Also, are you trying to send to or from poloniex?

[tukernun]

When i trying transfer moneros on poloniex, there is an error: transfer is too big. 8 or 6 or 4 or 3 monero- it does not matter- always error. what i am doing wrong for this time?

Have you tried really small amounts? The transfer being too big is cause by many small inputs coming together. Like in effect, if someone sent you 3 moneros and then sent those same 3 to someone else, then the transfer would be relatively small in size (bytes). But, if someone sent you .01 moneros 300 times, to make 3 moneros then your transfer would be really big in size (bytes). It's just how the protocol works for now. There's usually nothing you're doing wrong. Have you tried sending extremely small transaction sizes? like .1 MRO? Also, are you trying to send to or from poloniex?

It was to poloniex. Ty a lot- 3 moneros too big, 2 moneros and less was send succesfully.  

But if transfer fee are always 0.05- it is not good, that monero use that fee  every time when i send 0.1 and 0.2 moneros because of wallet feature  

[Keyboard-Mash]

It was to poloniex. Ty for your support- 3 moneros too big, 2 moneros and less was send succesfully.  

But if transfer fee are always 0.05- it is not good, that monero use that fee  every time when i send 0.1 and 0.2 moneros because of wallet feature  

I agree with you, were you mining to that wallet from a pool? I think a good way to find a middle ground in the situation is to have pools use a minimum payout per address (like 1 MRO maybe?). It could, if done correctly, take care of blockchain bloat and keep you from having to pay unnecessary transaction fees by having to send multiple payments, now that the block size limit is decreased. I don't think that the pools currently support a minimum payout yet, so maybe someone else has ideas about this?

Also, I thought the fee was .0005? Am I wrong?

[tukernun]

It was to poloniex. Ty for your support- 3 moneros too big, 2 moneros and less was send succesfully.  

But if transfer fee are always 0.05- it is not good, that monero use that fee  every time when i send 0.1 and 0.2 moneros because of wallet feature  

I agree with you, were you mining to that wallet from a pool? I think a good way to find a middle ground in the situation is to have pools use a minimum payout per address (like 1 MRO maybe?). It could, if done correctly, take care of blockchain bloat and keep you from having to pay unnecessary transaction fees by having to send multiple payments, now that the block size limit is decreased. I don't think that the pools currently support a minimum payout yet, so maybe someone else has ideas about this?

Yeah, i thought that http://moneropool.com/ is the best choice because of very high hash rate, i was mistaken   Hope, that pool owners will read your post and  will set minimum payouts- it will be useful for miners  

Error: not enough money to transfer, available only 0.907273924654, transaction amount 0.912273924654 = 0.907273924654 + 0.005000000000 (fee)

[polecrab]

It was to poloniex. Ty for your support- 3 moneros too big, 2 moneros and less was send succesfully.  

But if transfer fee are always 0.05- it is not good, that monero use that fee  every time when i send 0.1 and 0.2 moneros because of wallet feature  

I agree with you, were you mining to that wallet from a pool? I think a good way to find a middle ground in the situation is to have pools use a minimum payout per address (like 1 MRO maybe?). It could, if done correctly, take care of blockchain bloat and keep you from having to pay unnecessary transaction fees by having to send multiple payments, now that the block size limit is decreased. I don't think that the pools currently support a minimum payout yet, so maybe someone else has ideas about this?

Yeah, i thought that http://moneropool.com/ is the best choice because of very high hash rate, i was mistaken   Hope, that pool owners will read your post and  will set minimum payouts- it will be useful for miners  

Error: not enough money to transfer, available only 0.907273924654, transaction amount 0.912273924654 = 0.907273924654 + 0.005000000000 (fee)

Minimum payout with direct to wallet address pools based on node-cryptonote-pool would require some development of node-cryptonote-pool by the author, not config by the pool owners.

[Febo]

When i trying transfer moneros on poloniex, there is an error: transfer is too big. 8 or 6 or 4 or 3 monero- it does not matter- always error. what i am doing wrong for this time?

Have you tried really small amounts? The transfer being too big is cause by many small inputs coming together. Like in effect, if someone sent you 3 moneros and then sent those same 3 to someone else, then the transfer would be relatively small in size (bytes). But, if someone sent you .01 moneros 300 times, to make 3 moneros then your transfer would be really big in size (bytes). It's just how the protocol works for now. There's usually nothing you're doing wrong. Have you tried sending extremely small transaction sizes? like .1 MRO? Also, are you trying to send to or from poloniex?

It was to poloniex. Ty a lot- 3 moneros too big, 2 moneros and less was send succesfully.  

But if transfer fee are always 0.05- it is not good, that monero use that fee  every time when i send 0.1 and 0.2 moneros because of wallet feature  

I think, well as i read, people use second wallet, they transfer in 1 or 2 Moneros batch there, from their mining wallet. That will allow you to transfer from that second wallet in higher numbers. But i might read it wrong, i am way from there yet. 

[ellen.yan]

lol 27 BTC sell wall on 0.0031, 12 BTC BUY wall at 0.0018  PING PONG TIME!

when occur??

[equipoise]

^About 17-18 hours ago. Some are playing games so I don't believe in any wall.

[othe]

^About 17-18 hours ago. Some are playing games so I don't believe in any wall.

That wall at 18 was from me, it was the price that was reached earlier that day already so i thought i might be lucky to buy some cheap coins - didnt work.

There was absolutely no "manipulation" involved, that sell wall wasn't from me tho - and we talked about that in irc.

[tukernun]

I think, well as i read, people use second wallet, they transfer in 1 or 2 Moneros batch there, from their mining wallet. That will allow you to transfer from that second wallet in higher numbers. But i might read it wrong, i am way from there yet.  

Nah, that strategy can increase expenses,  because you pay transaction fee  every time sending moneros , so you will pay same amount as before first and then something more- from second wallet ^_^

[billotronic]

ok I have an issue

Last night sent two tx's followed by a third maybe an hour or so later. All the same commands I've been using for weeks to send to polo to my account. First two do not show up in blockchain, third went through like normal. This is with the latest wallet (not sure what # we are on but I pulled and compiled last night for the mandatory upgrade)

This is from my log:

failed # 1

Code:

2014-May-30 20:32:47.984329 transaction <a53bc3fb27a9771d6979111e8bd871fe184f8401cb1c722129c254991d8d55f6> generated ok and sent to daemon, key_images: [<56d43e5a88e31021167800e0463e15eff70b2b65c607ca534e1106b31a7fa27e> <523849f87556af3586333b6e44eaccca204623fbedd3d05a5d576394783228fc> <9549407bc9ffbc5b1fcc83159d58860aa2eedc77a1706e6d9f9adce3e22efb7a> <16085cbfd513d377499c4d19491f58d4d9081bfeddcee6688396d2fb19bb29fa> <60d6c28e994abbcbbcb099342ab08f75b89a822cd28b8ae261693ebacb45168f> <21be58a692906d65e54585628b026adfd18d5a6576cffc9b235077228fd826a3> <f1b0db81297ac0daab0b0af2c18f2f2219804657ba0b871cfa5b11828e086269> <d922e6034e72023feedb712435a0d275247ea71be6d575f5622e80647b3bafb9> <7bc1c63ae4c82f856c1d943e59ab8ccec895a9f4956eb3f351c8a1e3908c8f90> <49a313e94504c5f179814a613a1e5c9f8b6fb87f76cf48c5b12b619a8c36931b> <525edc67bf83ac778c0ecc21d2db53e82534b448d20f4b8922228de2d55375e5> <9a8702cb65e572be876b5b1a0ebe5d3ceea4d790cdd61295584b9f0b46a4f083> <e18a9cc7f4309839ff6ad2ebf8778b29789f17b753b7576b116018b24bab5f20> <44c0498dffcd8f49f5bd27a42ebcc968b6640ff17bd6b0981eff412a96520248> <e50b364c5217b8f772663f31b956fa805402569de10788377aa435ee7f268b77> <b2a12f91cae35ce270643325d9d56b2b36e1b38b07f38749baa015958611d878> <03048bcf35f7d4df8f535136c92721499374bfe091f8356d977c87aaab01850d> <8bb7d260298e7b3f5d89da808c0273bdb6985d8903c5ee05c27e7a3b6ceab604> <c6d4c526adad66eb48672a9e86c0bf5f4707fd836c841505272b3ca4afcda018> ]
2014-May-30 20:32:47.984575 Transaction successfully sent. <<a53bc3fb27a9771d6979111e8bd871fe184f8401cb1c722129c254991d8d55f6>>
Commission: 0.005000886812 (dust: 0.000000886812)
Balance: 12.548259095826
Unlocked: 11.983258209014
Please, wait for confirmation for your balance to be unlocked.
2014-May-30 20:32:47.984652 Money successfully sent, transaction <a53bc3fb27a9771d6979111e8bd871fe184f8401cb1c722129c254991d8d55f6>

fail # 2

Code:

2014-May-30 20:32:53.116238 Read command: transfer 0 47sghzufGhJJDQEbScMCwVBimTuq6L5JiRixD8VeGbpjCTA12noXmi4ZyBZLc99e66NtnKff34fHsGRoyZk3ES1s1V4QVcB 6 99d1012b062c580940d33be5836941f06ad9e7467235438fb6b4c3870a8f11fe
2014-May-30 20:32:53.116619 amount=0.000000686973, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=72, indexes: 1
2014-May-30 20:32:53.116639 amount=0.400000000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=146, indexes: 10887
2014-May-30 20:32:53.116658 amount=0.050000000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=1, indexes: 18114
2014-May-30 20:32:53.116674 amount=0.009000000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=74, indexes: 27645
2014-May-30 20:32:53.116690 amount=0.900000000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=141, indexes: 9657
2014-May-30 20:32:53.116707 amount=0.070000000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=0, indexes: 14156
2014-May-30 20:32:53.116722 amount=1.000000000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=161, indexes: 7014
2014-May-30 20:32:53.116736 amount=0.009000000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=68, indexes: 27568
2014-May-30 20:32:53.116752 amount=0.080000000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=113, indexes: 15006
2014-May-30 20:32:53.116766 amount=0.300000000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=148, indexes: 12336
2014-May-30 20:32:53.116781 amount=0.900000000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=127, indexes: 9629
2014-May-30 20:32:53.116795 amount=3.000000000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=170, indexes: 2786
2014-May-30 20:32:53.182581 transaction <b5565432553004802b228b4e57448a0e7b5e7a7aab1ceb8171b8c8e5d12b3541> generated ok and sent to daemon, key_images: [<a4d1adf03a7468d916b9ed1684a10925f99b27f3250c76536781e7a8df06a134> <18ea342ca330f39fc37c9816b1e1de16d769a348e25644ab36f34d0025e882e9> <399d0fc95289e8bd7b507dd0b6a560a26caa9f28351ecaa42dbb14a0fd881b38> <9ef42dcf5878f75ef817c0306ec704262d3cb70a1f375d2ce0c742680310d07b> <27fba0869737482e2caba6b002b209c520eaed58056d46d1fee87d8dea005b1d> <4a67117e7f6064b466d6daaa7f10ef5710984f3c49aefcaba81d9ae32786d432> <b6d73d60fc46c23a76b1276be819d84892d0885707bca9617b6c72ce267f66f2> <fc8a397e2928e8ef1785650f9b4576cbc4772fbc9f339ebe60ec17acef085f49> <ca3b4305e73ab42090f9dff37949e1d5a4fb3096d7af7f12e02e4053aabeb965> <60bce9ae4e14ecad399dbf741c59c65de79faea0aabdf0731f07bd3cd217b87d> <4a629e1eb28e16c46a37203cf45ca27514e8f983e0aa009f2ff40f540ad29ebd> <6f85ae98c14f2860f431ca1491d6a63a205069240e80fdb8f3f584fbf4235768> ]
2014-May-30 20:32:53.182805 Transaction successfully sent. <<b5565432553004802b228b4e57448a0e7b5e7a7aab1ceb8171b8c8e5d12b3541>>
Commission: 0.008000686973 (dust: 0.003000686973)
Balance: 6.543259095826
Unlocked: 5.265257522041
Please, wait for confirmation for your balance to be unlocked.
2014-May-30 20:32:53.182855 Money successfully sent, transaction <b5565432553004802b228b4e57448a0e7b5e7a7aab1ceb8171b8c8e5d12b3541>

Successful Tx

Code:

2014-May-30 22:28:32.144759 Read command: transfer 0 47sghzufGhJJDQEbScMCwVBimTuq6L5JiRixD8VeGbpjCTA12noXmi4ZyBZLc99e66NtnKff34fHsGRoyZk3ES1s1V4QVcB 6 99d1012b062c580940d33be5836941f06ad9e7467235438fb6b4c3870a8f11fe
2014-May-30 22:28:32.145202 amount=0.004820000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=48, indexes: 35
2014-May-30 22:28:32.145225 amount=0.008000000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=0, indexes: 27424
2014-May-30 22:28:32.145242 amount=0.050000000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=95, indexes: 18440
2014-May-30 22:28:32.145257 amount=2.000000000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=161, indexes: 3570
2014-May-30 22:28:32.145273 amount=0.060000000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=105, indexes: 16194
2014-May-30 22:28:32.145288 amount=0.800000000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=146, indexes: 9067
2014-May-30 22:28:32.145303 amount=1.000000000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=171, indexes: 7095
2014-May-30 22:28:32.145317 amount=0.020000000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=86, indexes: 35061
2014-May-30 22:28:32.145333 amount=0.700000000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=155, indexes: 9060
2014-May-30 22:28:32.145348 amount=0.008000000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=66, indexes: 26171
2014-May-30 22:28:32.145361 amount=0.090000000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=120, indexes: 14364
2014-May-30 22:28:32.145377 amount=0.060000000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=1, indexes: 16100
2014-May-30 22:28:32.145391 amount=0.080000000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=121, indexes: 15240
2014-May-30 22:28:32.145405 amount=0.800000000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=157, indexes: 9128
2014-May-30 22:28:32.145419 amount=0.007000000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=63, indexes: 29569
2014-May-30 22:28:32.145433 amount=0.400000000000, real_output=0, real_output_in_tx_index=135, indexes: 10936
2014-May-30 22:28:32.217526 transaction <e7e7570408b94b979bfb45f92e8b1980988f5df9f42372f4917ef96eb8bb9dc7> generated ok and sent to daemon, key_images: [<86fc58a058c5d9872cb80150ba2dd2a09f165069ab79356eb11fc69742302d40> <218a1d1b63004cc76ebdf75890528759da98528ef2b91c305f132de052afe66b> <a557d57dd3f66927f3aa67f57d6d3c52d461b3e4c5f3eda62f08d7e7b7739c8f> <fa22bccd036834486c331abe3db3bca1c4f7a416466f4c1d3ec2131fbc09b31e> <3a6ed0454c6b36c4728029d9382f02ab7efc85a2545afabb32725a5300f9d222> <6559fc8e328466624954bb3aea7ab09ad8355cebfcdf3738111bb505932ed3f3> <5c8da739cc7cad334766164033fe4f39173671a2760b51181d4646d9e45e9f3c> <33b22ce27313b47b75311f6bc62d3de6afebcda6ba2c0348bfa2e3b77274913f> <d7196708dd5173fa3190ef343465b45208dae3950f39a1074802ade82f8a6784> <4530cd811ca595a3d56aadd929934b5a04b753c86de05973fcbc65ddcbcb6015> <2fba1b290f327061492720e2600b487e82f4560f723b0f6d862cf84180989137> <ff607a6e64005b24e0d69955e24bee9bdf401204b28d72f47ec984b65fd5e5fe> <1e9d6fc0c2bd77f09f1fe2eda03fcbac407cd091f38b2459af813f5171b3f4a9> <77b8c5a416ecf6baf6e07209fd91d90e65c032c1f38caf1d3ccefceba39f22e7> <eb0d868a528754c3ecf3f2937fef7416e54ed088b8219f4925e628c37c85508d> <a10c5998cf67d1b17230621bdd2f97d280d8563c4419f369d0e5f46e79a0bcde> ]
2014-May-30 22:28:32.217796 Transaction successfully sent. <<e7e7570408b94b979bfb45f92e8b1980988f5df9f42372f4917ef96eb8bb9dc7>>
Commission: 0.007820000000 (dust: 0.002820000000)
Balance: 6.164039095826
Unlocked: 4.803217522041
Please, wait for confirmation for your balance to be unlocked.
2014-May-30 22:28:32.217868 Money successfully sent, transaction <e7e7570408b94b979bfb45f92e8b1980988f5df9f42372f4917ef96eb8bb9dc7>

So am I shit out of luck or mayhaps these coins will show up at polo in a year or two?


[UPDATE] So apparently the coins came back to my wallet this morning... My question now is wtf? and is this normal? Can't say I've had this happen before with a coin.