[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[emontmon]

to developers

can you include link to lucas cpu miner in op
can you include wolf cpu miner in op
can you update the block chain to more current one

new people need access to this without searching.

[emontmon]

any one updating blockchain in op

Windows 64-bit blockchain, June 9

op still says 29th

[David Latapie]

to developers

can you include link to lucas cpu miner in op
can you include wolf cpu miner in op
can you update the block chain to more current one

new people need access to this without searching.

http//monero.cc/getting-started has the install script. Wolf's miner depends on the machine and Lucas' Miner is less perfomant. For the blockchain, I'll see what I can do.

[Keyboard-Mash]

Back to the point -- how can we "market" the idea that a c++ I2P router is something to be thrilled over (rather than a Java one) to people who are not security specialists. ...what can a c++ one do that a Java one couldn't?

Adding i2p is defense in depth.  Defense of end-user privacy.

The C++ i2p is desirable because it simplifies deployment:  It allows the IP anonymization to be embedded in the monero app.  It also means you don't have local network traffic in plaintext which is easier for malware to snoop.

Oh!

That makes a lot of sense now. Thanks a lot! Sorry if anyone else said this and I didn't get it. Programming is not my main background (even though it's pretty technical) .. though I'm learning quite a bit about it by coming to this board over and over again.

I didn't make the connection that you could completely integrate a c++ router into a monero app, rather than have to use an external java router that's controlled by your coin app. So rather than run two separate programs .. you can run one?

[emontmon]

to developers

can you include link to lucas cpu miner in op
can you include wolf cpu miner in op
can you update the block chain to more current one

new people need access to this without searching.

http//monero.cc/getting-started has the install script. Wolf's miner depends on the machine and Lucas' Miner is less perfomant. For the blockchain, I'll see what I can do.

ohh ok. i dont know how to use install script. i am sure others dont either. perhaps link to precompiled exe files would be good.

[David Latapie]

ohh ok. i dont know how to use install script. i am sure others dont either. perhaps link to precompiled exe files would be good.

Windows is the weak point, I agree. Precompiled binaries would be good, but I cannot personally help on this one, except by uploading someone else's

For the install script, on Ubuntu, it is really just copy and paste.

[emontmon]

ohh ok. i dont know how to use install script. i am sure others dont either. perhaps link to precompiled exe files would be good.

Windows is the weak point, I agree. Precompiled binaries would be good, but I cannot personally help on this one, except by uploading someone else's

For the install script, on Ubuntu, it is really just copy and paste.

yea this is what i got
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.3.9600]
(c) 2013 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\>cd ~ && rm -f install_monero.sh && wget http://david.latapie.name/install_mo
nero.sh && bash install_monero.sh
The system cannot find the path specified.

C:\>

[David Latapie]

ohh ok. i dont know how to use install script. i am sure others dont either. perhaps link to precompiled exe files would be good.

Windows is the weak point, I agree. Precompiled binaries would be good, but I cannot personally help on this one, except by uploading someone else's

For the install script, on Ubuntu, it is really just copy and paste.

yea this is what i got
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.3.9600]
(c) 2013 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\>cd ~ && rm -f install_monero.sh && wget http://david.latapie.name/install_mo
nero.sh && bash install_monero.sh
The system cannot find the path specified.

C:\>

OK so I really need to reword the whole thing for the installation section: these instructions do not work for Windows.
"in order to work for Windows, it is necessary to install MinGW" is at the end of a paragraph, so people won't read it.

[emontmon]

ohh ok. i dont know how to use install script. i am sure others dont either. perhaps link to precompiled exe files would be good.

Windows is the weak point, I agree. Precompiled binaries would be good, but I cannot personally help on this one, except by uploading someone else's

For the install script, on Ubuntu, it is really just copy and paste.

yea this is what i got
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.3.9600]
(c) 2013 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\>cd ~ && rm -f install_monero.sh && wget http://david.latapie.name/install_mo
nero.sh && bash install_monero.sh
The system cannot find the path specified.

C:\>

OK so I really need to reword the whole thing for the installation section: these instructions do not work for Windows.

 i can imagine the frustration others may experience trying to use command line and those commans in windows.

[emontmon]

Welcome to Git (version 1.9.2-preview20140411)


Run 'git help git' to display the help index.
Run 'git help <command>' to display help for specific commands.

Eus@TABLET1 ~
$ cd ~/cpuminer/cpuminer-multi && git pull && ./autogen.sh && CFLAGS="-march=na
tive" ./configure && make && popd
sh.exe": cd: /c/Users/Eus/cpuminer/cpuminer-multi: No such file or directory


Eus@TABLET1 ~
$

[lesheng]

ohh ok. i dont know how to use install script. i am sure others dont either. perhaps link to precompiled exe files would be good.

Windows is the weak point, I agree. Precompiled binaries would be good, but I cannot personally help on this one, except by uploading someone else's

For the install script, on Ubuntu, it is really just copy and paste.

yea this is what i got
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.3.9600]
(c) 2013 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\>cd ~ && rm -f install_monero.sh && wget http://david.latapie.name/install_mo
nero.sh && bash install_monero.sh
The system cannot find the path specified.

C:\>

I will continue to pay close attention to, may try to buy.

[Stevenrm87]

Monerocoin.com for sale

[parker928]

Having the option to upload your wallet.dat file is retarded. lol

http://ismyprivatekeystolen.com/

Seems legit.

answer: IT IS NOW!!!!

hahaha. for those of us that encrypt our private keys, it would not make a difference if they were stolen right? the only way to spend coins is with encryption key?

It is the same for monero keys, correct? Don't see why it wouldn't be, but i would sleep better if one of the pros assured me xmr keys are the same...i do not know much about encryption...

[tacotime]

For example if 556.44 XMR are sent, the protocol will break it down into 500 + 50 + 6 + 0.4 + 0.04

Why does monero split amounts to power of 10? Why not power of 2? Are there any differences or trade offs in using different bases for this process?

Good question. Denominations are handled by the code here:
https://github.com/amjuarez/bytecoin/blob/57cf53625817223733bdaf2f4e518ebae978713e/src/cryptonote_core/cryptonote_format_utils.h

Lines 151-190

Code:

  //---------------------------------------------------------------
  // 62387455827 -> 455827 + 7000000 + 80000000 + 300000000 + 2000000000 + 60000000000, where 455827 <= dust_threshold
  template<typename chunk_handler_t, typename dust_handler_t>
  void decompose_amount_into_digits(uint64_t amount, uint64_t dust_threshold, const chunk_handler_t& chunk_handler, const dust_handler_t& dust_handler)
  {
    if (0 == amount)
    {
      return;
    }

    bool is_dust_handled = false;
    uint64_t dust = 0;
    uint64_t order = 1;
    while (0 != amount)
    {
      uint64_t chunk = (amount % 10) * order;
      amount /= 10;
      order *= 10;

      if (dust + chunk <= dust_threshold)
      {
        dust += chunk;
      }
      else
      {
        if (!is_dust_handled && 0 != dust)
        {
          dust_handler(dust);
          is_dust_handled = true;
        }
        if (0 != chunk)
        {
          chunk_handler(chunk);
        }
      }
    }

    if (!is_dust_handled && 0 != dust)
    {
      dust_handler(dust);
    }
  }

The code above makes denomination fairly simple and should generate lots of overlapping outs even without using direct powers of two, but I'm not entirely sure why they chose this above simply using powers of two.

[aminorex]

or those of us that encrypt our private keys, it would not make a difference if they were stolen right? the only way to spend coins is with encryption key?

If your password has less entropy than the key, then it is less secure.  English words have 11.82 bits of entropy in bulk, per Shannon.

[parker928]

or those of us that encrypt our private keys, it would not make a difference if they were stolen right? the only way to spend coins is with encryption key?

If your password has less entropy than the key, then it is less secure.  English words have 11.82 bits of entropy in bulk, per Shannon.

well sure...my gpu's can crack a 6 character password in 3 hours, but i would be dead before i could crack a ten character. (I always assume the nsA secret squirrels and other prick organizations have much more advanced hardware than people know about, so i make all mine 20 characters). Regardless,

having access to the private keys does not entail ability to spend the coins, correct? I am not telling, I am asking.

it is this way for BOTH bitcoin and cryptonote protocol coins, correct?

[surfer43]

Monerocoin.com for sale

I bid 0.01 XMR

[cindereynolds]

  I need your guys help.

I accidentally sent some monero to my poloniex wallet without my payment id and now i need the transaction ID to claim it.

My question is where do I find my log of transaction ID's in the wallet?

[tacotime]

  I need your guys help.

I accidentally sent some monero to my poloniex wallet without my payment id and now i need the transaction ID to claim it.

My question is where do I find my log of transaction ID's in the wallet?

Rename your wallet.dat something else like wallet.dat_old and then load your wallet.dat.keys file and refresh. It will list out all the tx you ever made (you may have to log the terminal output).

[orinoco]

All the coins add to Mintpal by voted have no future!! Just see enc

I don't think XMR needs to get voted onto mintpal.

The way forwards is to provide user tools..  stuff like:

Multi-address wallet (or simpler front-end to multiple wallets)
Rich list (to verify equitable distribution = important to investors)
Payment gateway
Cart integration (pricing/payment matching to invoice etc)

As long as monero keeps providing the infrastructure, usage will grow.  Mintpal will have been watching the volumes on poloniex, and the fact that they're willing to put it on the vote list indicates they think they can integrate it when they need to.