don't use X11,it can be mined by Scrypt ASIC or fpga

[Equate]

CPU->GPU->FPGA->ASIC

The hardware order that a coin can be mined eventually.

A FPGA is better than an ASIC in regards that it can be reprogrammed. An ASIC is programmed to do just one thing only. ASIC's generally are quicker and I wouldn't doubt someone having a working FPGA programmed for X11.

Where can buy FPGA miner? I am interested.

You won't be able to buy even if such fpga exists until they mine the shit out of x11 .

[hero18688]

So which algo do you guys recommand for GPU-miners?Or gpu-miners should dump their coins before asics or fpga coming out instead of keeping the coins.

[AlexGR]

i am a china miner, i can tell all of you,many peopel use fgpa mining X11 coin in china.
that's why gpu miner can't get a good profitability for mining X11 coin.
the X11 COIN can't prevent fpga or asic.
X11 has been cracked by fpga at this time.
so it's not fair for gpu miner.
we must ban x11 coin

Care to show some kind of proof supporting your statement?

The fact that its almost not profitable to mine coins like DRK with GPU should sound an alarm.

It depends on the price of electricity. For many european countries DRK is the most profitable coin (or, the least loss-incuring coin) due to high electric prices.

[AlexGR]

new update:
x11 coin can be mined by  Scrypt ASIC at this time.that's same to maxcoin.maxcon can be mined by AntMiner

An scrypt asic will do scrypt, not X11.

[JiePanXia]

lmao.
op do u know 3MH with X11 nearly equals 1MH Scrypt?

[dspair]

Profitability of X11 coins is pretty bad, so can I believe that.

[AlexGR]

I believe that, seeing how bad profitability of X11 coins is.

You believe what exactly? That scrypt asics do x11 coins? This is impossible. ASICs are designed to do something specific. Scrypt asics are designed to do scrypt, not x11.

As for FPGAs, they will do most CPU and all GPU mineable coins. Is this some kind of news? No.

As for profitability, try with electricity prices of 0.3-0.4$ / kwh, check again (with wattage /2 for x11 compared to scrypt) and report back.

[Blackmet]

i am a china miner, i can tell all of you,many peopel use fgpa mining X11 coin in china.
that's why gpu miner can't get a good profitability for mining X11 coin.
the X11 COIN can't prevent fpga or asic.
X11 has been cracked by fpga at this time.
so it's not fair for gpu miner.
we must ban x11 coin

new update:
x11 coin can be mined by  Scrypt ASIC at this time.that's same to maxcoin.maxcon can be mined by AntMiner

many fpge or Scrypt ASIC are mining x11,not gpu miner,for example DARKCOIN,28G NET HASH are very hard to believe

The main problem about this is that you're a dumb scammer, trying to cheat hamsters. x11 was initially made asicproof, RTFM on what x11 is and why it is called so.

>>>we must ban x11

Do it, comrade! Or better ban yourself outa here.

[jkminkov]

Care to show some kind of proof supporting your statement?

The fact that its almost not profitable to mine coins like DRK with GPU should sound an alarm.

it's not profitable, because some miners think that when price skyrocket they should start mining a coin, but this is not bitcoin, where difficulty kicks in after hundreds of blocks, it kicks in after just a few blocks and all keep mining darkcoin at a loss!

[zneww]

lmao.
op do u know 3MH with X11 nearly equals 1MH Scrypt?

[pomelo]

Lol, anyone who believes this is close to brain dead. Cost involved Into designing is too significant to even THINK about building an fpga/asic for an algo at such infancy.

Also, I find it funny how in recent months, starting any post with "I am china" seems to invoke confidence when trying to spread FUD about a subject.

I heard similar talk when the first pics from gridseeds emerged. They were supposed to be "fake" "vaporware" "scam".. you name it.

[AlexGR]

Lol, anyone who believes this is close to brain dead. Cost involved Into designing is too significant to even THINK about building an fpga/asic for an algo at such infancy.

Also, I find it funny how in recent months, starting any post with "I am china" seems to invoke confidence when trying to spread FUD about a subject.

I heard similar talk when the first pics from gridseeds emerged. They were supposed to be "fake" "vaporware" "scam".. you name it.

Read carefully what he writes... that scrypt ASICs can do X11... this is impossible.

FPGAs, sure... they can do any GPU coin. But they are not ASIC-level efficiency or speed.

[pomelo]

Lol, anyone who believes this is close to brain dead. Cost involved Into designing is too significant to even THINK about building an fpga/asic for an algo at such infancy.

Also, I find it funny how in recent months, starting any post with "I am china" seems to invoke confidence when trying to spread FUD about a subject.

I heard similar talk when the first pics from gridseeds emerged. They were supposed to be "fake" "vaporware" "scam".. you name it.

Read carefully what he writes... that scrypt ASICs can do X11... this is impossible.

FPGAs, sure... they can do any GPU coin. But they are not ASIC-level efficiency or speed.

I wasn't trying to make a 1:1 comparison. Just saying that people called Scrypt asics a scam when they were reality. Now some people say _similar_ stuff about fpga for X11.

[AlexGR]

Lol, anyone who believes this is close to brain dead. Cost involved Into designing is too significant to even THINK about building an fpga/asic for an algo at such infancy.

Also, I find it funny how in recent months, starting any post with "I am china" seems to invoke confidence when trying to spread FUD about a subject.

I heard similar talk when the first pics from gridseeds emerged. They were supposed to be "fake" "vaporware" "scam".. you name it.

Read carefully what he writes... that scrypt ASICs can do X11... this is impossible.

FPGAs, sure... they can do any GPU coin. But they are not ASIC-level efficiency or speed.

I wasn't trying to make a 1:1 comparison. Just saying that people called Scrypt asics a scam when they were reality. Now some people say _similar_ stuff about fpga for X11.

He doesn't say that an ASIC has been built for X11... he says that the asics that have been built for scrypt can do X11, which is impossible, as asics are custom designed to perform specific functions.

This misunderstanding probably originated from the website of an asic manufacturer where he accidentally placed darkcoin on his list of scrypt coins that can be mined. I had seen that link floating around - I think it was in the darkcoin thread. Of course darkcoin is not scrypt (it's x11) so the claim is bogus.

[mazuma]

This guy is tripping. Even if FPGA's are out there, ONLY VERY VERY FEW have them. I remember when maxcoin was released, holy cow, there were some MONSTER GPU Farms on that 1gh, and keccak was pretty much GPU, since asics wasnt really out in the mainstream. There are LOTS of GPU farms that can push over a million on X11, so like i said earlier, this guy must tripping.

[SpeedDemon13]

This guy is tripping. Even if FPGA's are out there, ONLY VERY VERY FEW have them. I remember when maxcoin was released, holy cow, there were some MONSTER GPU Farms on that 1gh, and keccak was pretty much GPU, since asics wasnt really out in the mainstream. There are LOTS of GPU farms that can push over a million on X11, so like i said earlier, this guy must tripping.

X11 ASIC's aren't going to come out until X11 coins are profitable enough like Scrypt. An FPGA is probably doable, but haven't heard any solid and concrete evidence of one yet.

[Amph]

This guy is tripping. Even if FPGA's are out there, ONLY VERY VERY FEW have them. I remember when maxcoin was released, holy cow, there were some MONSTER GPU Farms on that 1gh, and keccak was pretty much GPU, since asics wasnt really out in the mainstream. There are LOTS of GPU farms that can push over a million on X11, so like i said earlier, this guy must tripping.

X11 ASIC's aren't going to come out until X11 coins are profitable enough like Scrypt. An FPGA is probably doable, but haven't heard any solid and concrete evidence of one yet.

this does not esclude, that they are already testing some for the future, you really think that scrypt asic were available only when we have begun to buy them?

i know there are at least two users here with a KNC Titan for pre-test

[SpeedDemon13]

This guy is tripping. Even if FPGA's are out there, ONLY VERY VERY FEW have them. I remember when maxcoin was released, holy cow, there were some MONSTER GPU Farms on that 1gh, and keccak was pretty much GPU, since asics wasnt really out in the mainstream. There are LOTS of GPU farms that can push over a million on X11, so like i said earlier, this guy must tripping.

X11 ASIC's aren't going to come out until X11 coins are profitable enough like Scrypt. An FPGA is probably doable, but haven't heard any solid and concrete evidence of one yet.

this does not esclude, that they are already testing some for the future, you really think that scrypt asic were available only when we have begun to buy them?

i know there are at least two users here with a KNC Titan for pre-test

KNC has a bad rep for mining with customers mining equipment before shipping it.

I don't doubt someone has a X11 ASIC in the works.

[dE_logics]

There may be an FPGA, but not ASIC.

GPU and FPGA will always go hand in hand. If the coin is good with GPU, it'll be good with FPGA.

If you want FPGA/GPU and ASIC proof, then Quark is the answer. It works on the GPU, but is not that efficient cause of it's random rounds.

[ballot]

fpga may be yes but i don't believe in x11 asics if it was that easy the scrypt asic were gonna out earlier .
hashrates are high? yes but you have to multiply nearly 3 if you want to compare
also cpus can make nearly 300 khs. its not a small number and i have no idea about nvidia miners in the first day ccminer out they just increased the hashrate %40