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September 20, 2014, 01:55:20 PM
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Windows Client V.0.8 won't accept cut n paste passphrase, is this a problem my end or with the client?

I got that too. It makes logging in a very protracted process.

It works for me with ctrl+V

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September 20, 2014, 02:20:21 PM
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Whitepaper is extremely vague and English is horrible.

Lol.. english is horrible and estonian? is also horrible? What did you expect? A technical explanation from a dev point of view?
It was supposed to be this way. It's for normal users. Not for an expert like you who can see the matrix.

A whitepaper is typically a "a technical explanation from a dev point of view". This "whitepaper" is a high-level abstract at best.

Hi Jaguar,

Please direct me to a cryptocurrency which, in your opinion, has published a proper whitepaper.


http://www.nxtcommunity.org/nxt-whitepaper


Node paper is lacking technical content. if i can understand it, then it is a weak paper

Yea, the NXT whitepaper is a good example.
i just think ALL NEM devs hate NODE  Roll Eyes


some of you don't seem to understand the grave you're digging by blindly fervently a coin that is still technically weak. you are building up a hype where there shouldn't be any. when people see this thread, they get excited and want to invest right away! little do they know that this coin shouldn't have even been launched (in my opinion). once they figure this out, they dump and stay away permanently.

then there are threads that I follow like BTCD/NEM/BBR where technical discussions are often taking place. these are the coins with the greatest potential because the community questions the developers and this provides a transparency to what the devs are doing. Here, this is the total opposite. Devs are quiet and hard to understand. 70% of posts are "to the moon" type.

if this coin falls, it is because of the weak community that calls FUD/troll when people ask questions about the project. this cannot continue to happen if node is going to succeed.

i hope the community understands what i am saying



The NODE whitepaper was very transparent and concise vs the NXT paper, even though it was technical - they failed to comment on the unfair distribution! ! NXT is an elaborate ponzi scam. Sorry to hurt your feelings. Smiley

what does unfair distribution mean to you?

NXT distributed the same way NODE did
I was pressing for details about NEM's fast exchange they keep talking about and was personally attacked in the NEM forum and that wasn't the first time either.
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September 20, 2014, 02:40:01 PM
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then there are threads that I follow like BTCD/NEM/BBR where technical discussions are often taking place. these are the coins with the greatest potential because the community questions the developers and this provides a transparency to what the devs are doing. Here, this is the total opposite. Devs are quiet and hard to understand. 70% of posts are "to the moon" type.

if this coin falls, it is because of the weak community that calls FUD/troll when people ask questions about the project. this cannot continue to happen if node is going to succeed.

i hope the community understands what i am saying

I think visual111 hit the nail on the head.

Transparency.

That's what is lacking with the developers of Node.


Oh boy, Visual111 sure did hit the nail on the head! You two should be cryptocurrency consultants or something.

Transparency is definitely lacking! For goodness sake, the Node devs haven't posted an update on this thread in 5 hours!!!!!!!!!!!!

And where is the whitepaper and roadmap? Oh wait...

TLDR version:

You are an imbecile.
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September 20, 2014, 02:56:10 PM
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Whitepaper is extremely vague and English is horrible.

Lol.. english is horrible and estonian? is also horrible? What did you expect? A technical explanation from a dev point of view?
It was supposed to be this way. It's for normal users. Not for an expert like you who can see the matrix.

A whitepaper is typically a "a technical explanation from a dev point of view". This "whitepaper" is a high-level abstract at best.

Hi Jaguar,

Please direct me to a cryptocurrency which, in your opinion, has published a proper whitepaper.


http://www.nxtcommunity.org/nxt-whitepaper


Node paper is lacking technical content. if i can understand it, then it is a weak paper

Yea, the NXT whitepaper is a good example.
i just think ALL NEM devs hate NODE  Roll Eyes


some of you don't seem to understand the grave you're digging by blindly fervently a coin that is still technically weak. you are building up a hype where there shouldn't be any. when people see this thread, they get excited and want to invest right away! little do they know that this coin shouldn't have even been launched (in my opinion). once they figure this out, they dump and stay away permanently.

then there are threads that I follow like BTCD/NEM/BBR where technical discussions are often taking place. these are the coins with the greatest potential because the community questions the developers and this provides a transparency to what the devs are doing. Here, this is the total opposite. Devs are quiet and hard to understand. 70% of posts are "to the moon" type.

if this coin falls, it is because of the weak community that calls FUD/troll when people ask questions about the project. this cannot continue to happen if node is going to succeed.

i hope the community understands what i am saying



The NODE whitepaper was very transparent and concise vs the NXT paper, even though it was technical - they failed to comment on the unfair distribution! ! NXT is an elaborate ponzi scam. Sorry to hurt your feelings. Smiley

what does unfair distribution mean to you?

NXT distributed the same way NODE did
I was pressing for details about NEM's fast exchange they keep talking about and was personally attacked in the NEM forum and that wasn't the first time either.

Plz point me to the post where you've been personaly attacked ?
There are no details because we don't even have the details. Unlike others we don't release shit premature.

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 #4745

A thing is asking technical things like patmast3r does and another very different is... blablabla no technical whitepaper! wanna technical! my d**k is more technical than your!.. fud, troll way like another people do.

Anyway. Regarding the price. New dolphins and whales are getting interested and they are trying to buy cheap before NODE goes to anothers exchanges and price manipulation become difficult. At the same time u r scared thx to fuders and trolls. Meanwhile negotiations with exchanges are being done. When NODE goes live to more and more exchanges price will go up and price manipulation to push down (in order to buy more and more cheap NODE) will be much more difficult to do.

Anyway i think is really healthy to keep the price around 100-150 even 200 satoshis now... why? Because that way more people invest and the u$er (and pay attention when i say "u$er" and not "user") base become wider. Otherwise they will feel like they lost the boat. So it's good. be patient.

Don't let the trolls scare you. And if u have to sell just set a sell order.. dont drop your coins.. and if you wanna buy just set a buy order and maybe u get lucky and some panic seller dump into your buy orders.

Meanwhile alibaba ipo will pass.. bitcoin price will stabilize and retake a bull trend and cryptos will pass the turbulences. Token sell will be over.. Unity will start to be traded. Supernet will start to move forward and well.. think by yourself.

Things must be measured in weeks/months even years in this cases and not days or hours like some trolls, fuders try to make people believe.

For the guys with copy/paste problem: Download the 0.0.9 client and try again.. because i have that client and i just did copy paste and it's working.
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September 20, 2014, 03:09:29 PM
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TLDR version (!): 4 months.

"Although it still needs updates and upgrades, polishing and waxing we are ready to involve you in the next 4 months of our commitment."
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September 20, 2014, 03:23:47 PM
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Whitepaper is extremely vague and English is horrible.

Lol.. english is horrible and estonian? is also horrible? What did you expect? A technical explanation from a dev point of view?
It was supposed to be this way. It's for normal users. Not for an expert like you who can see the matrix.

A whitepaper is typically a "a technical explanation from a dev point of view". This "whitepaper" is a high-level abstract at best.

Hi Jaguar,

Please direct me to a cryptocurrency which, in your opinion, has published a proper whitepaper.


http://www.nxtcommunity.org/nxt-whitepaper


Node paper is lacking technical content. if i can understand it, then it is a weak paper

Yea, the NXT whitepaper is a good example.
i just think ALL NEM devs hate NODE  Roll Eyes


some of you don't seem to understand the grave you're digging by blindly fervently a coin that is still technically weak. you are building up a hype where there shouldn't be any. when people see this thread, they get excited and want to invest right away! little do they know that this coin shouldn't have even been launched (in my opinion). once they figure this out, they dump and stay away permanently.

then there are threads that I follow like BTCD/NEM/BBR where technical discussions are often taking place. these are the coins with the greatest potential because the community questions the developers and this provides a transparency to what the devs are doing. Here, this is the total opposite. Devs are quiet and hard to understand. 70% of posts are "to the moon" type.

if this coin falls, it is because of the weak community that calls FUD/troll when people ask questions about the project. this cannot continue to happen if node is going to succeed.

i hope the community understands what i am saying



The NODE whitepaper was very transparent and concise vs the NXT paper, even though it was technical - they failed to comment on the unfair distribution! ! NXT is an elaborate ponzi scam. Sorry to hurt your feelings. Smiley

what does unfair distribution mean to you?

NXT distributed the same way NODE did
I was pressing for details about NEM's fast exchange they keep talking about and was personally attacked in the NEM forum and that wasn't the first time either.

Plz point me to the post where you've been personaly attacked ?
There are no details because we don't even have the details. Unlike others we don't release shit premature.
you turned in a really troll, shit is a coin without nothing only words and tokens. you need focus in your coin and stop fud and attack NODE months ago and you only want attack NODE i really want know why ... Nem team is so cool, anyone remember utopianfuture ? Hmmm stop spread fud the past of nem is not very good.
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September 20, 2014, 03:39:34 PM
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then there are threads that I follow like BTCD/NEM/BBR where technical discussions are often taking place. these are the coins with the greatest potential because the community questions the developers and this provides a transparency to what the devs are doing. Here, this is the total opposite. Devs are quiet and hard to understand. 70% of posts are "to the moon" type.

if this coin falls, it is because of the weak community that calls FUD/troll when people ask questions about the project. this cannot continue to happen if node is going to succeed.

i hope the community understands what i am saying

I think visual111 hit the nail on the head.

Transparency.

That's what is lacking with the developers of Node.


Oh boy, Visual111 sure did hit the nail on the head! You two should be cryptocurrency consultants or something.

Transparency is definitely lacking! For goodness sake, the Node devs haven't posted an update on this thread in 5 hours!!!!!!!!!!!!

And where is the whitepaper and roadmap? Oh wait...

TLDR version:

You are an imbecile.

Imbecile, eh?  Attacking others over constructive criticism?

I see a lot of questions and concerns that come up in this thread, and the devs don't appear to address them.  To me, that is lack of transparency.


You are absolutely right! Rather than working on the wallet, getting on exchanges, writing whitepapers and roadmaps and planning what could be the "Ukranian Paypal", the devs should focus their efforts on answering trivial questions on the Bitcointalk forum. LOL

Why You Should Immediately Fire Problem Customers
http://successwise.com/why-you-should-immediately-fire-problem-customers

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Let’s define problem customers. For whatever reason there’s a percentage of the population who is never happy. They’re always whining, dissatisfied and feeling like everyone is out to take advantage of them.

You could shower them with gold and provide your product or service for free and they’ll find something to complain about. These people are like a cancer sucking the life out of you and your business. I suggest you cut them loose as quickly as possible.

To be successful, one must realize that unfortunately nowadays there are a lot of people who are quite simply "a waste of time" and you need to ignore them ASAP. Just like the quote says, you could shower them with gold and they will still find something to complain about. Sound familiar? Let's recap.

"Where's the wallet?! Where's the wallet?!"
- Devs release wallet

"When are we going to get on an exchange?! When are we going to get on an exchange?!"
- Devs get Node on BTER

"Where's the whitepaper?! Where's the whitepaper?!"
- Devs release whitepaper

"What about future plans? What about timeframes, next steps, etc."
- Devs release roadmap

So now the dialogue simply shifts to:

"When are we going to get on Bittrex? What about Bittrex?"

"The whitepaper isn't clear. The whitepaper isn't well written. The devs aren't transparent"

So you see, regardless of what the devs do, there will always be people like you who will still find something to complain about. And the reason for this is simple - it is not as if you genuinely want to improve Node, rather you wish to empower yourself and make it all about you. It's just a sign of the times, the "entitlement generation" that we now live in.

Here's another classic example:

And... I'm out.  Maybe I'll get back in later but people seem to be disappointed in the whitepaper, and the market's reflecting that.  Maybe this will go somewhere.  Too bad no one answered my basic question pages ago of when this coin would be going to Bittrex.  Oh well.  Good luck everyone.

And as dawj20 pointed out, the basic question which wasn't answered "pages ago" not only appeared on the exact same page but in fact, was only posted 2.5 hours earlier. The devs don't respond to someone in the middle of the night and for that reason they are out. Absolutely classic.

Just stick to your plan Node devs, you are doing great. Like Taylor Swift's song says: "Haters going to hate, fakers going to fake, I'm just gonna shake it off, shake it off"  Grin
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September 20, 2014, 04:13:44 PM
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Whitepaper is extremely vague and English is horrible.

Lol.. english is horrible and estonian? is also horrible? What did you expect? A technical explanation from a dev point of view?
It was supposed to be this way. It's for normal users. Not for an expert like you who can see the matrix.

A whitepaper is typically a "a technical explanation from a dev point of view". This "whitepaper" is a high-level abstract at best.

Hi Jaguar,

Please direct me to a cryptocurrency which, in your opinion, has published a proper whitepaper.


http://www.nxtcommunity.org/nxt-whitepaper


Node paper is lacking technical content. if i can understand it, then it is a weak paper

Yea, the NXT whitepaper is a good example.
i just think ALL NEM devs hate NODE  Roll Eyes


some of you don't seem to understand the grave you're digging by blindly fervently a coin that is still technically weak. you are building up a hype where there shouldn't be any. when people see this thread, they get excited and want to invest right away! little do they know that this coin shouldn't have even been launched (in my opinion). once they figure this out, they dump and stay away permanently.

then there are threads that I follow like BTCD/NEM/BBR where technical discussions are often taking place. these are the coins with the greatest potential because the community questions the developers and this provides a transparency to what the devs are doing. Here, this is the total opposite. Devs are quiet and hard to understand. 70% of posts are "to the moon" type.

if this coin falls, it is because of the weak community that calls FUD/troll when people ask questions about the project. this cannot continue to happen if node is going to succeed.

i hope the community understands what i am saying



The NODE whitepaper was very transparent and concise vs the NXT paper, even though it was technical - they failed to comment on the unfair distribution! ! NXT is an elaborate ponzi scam. Sorry to hurt your feelings. Smiley

what does unfair distribution mean to you?

NXT distributed the same way NODE did
I was pressing for details about NEM's fast exchange they keep talking about and was personally attacked in the NEM forum and that wasn't the first time either.

Plz point me to the post where you've been personaly attacked ?
There are no details because we don't even have the details. Unlike others we don't release shit premature.
you turned in a really troll, shit is a coin without nothing only words and tokens. you need focus in your coin and stop fud and attack NODE months ago and you only want attack NODE i really want know why ... Nem team is so cool, anyone remember utopianfuture ? Hmmm stop spread fud the past of nem is not very good.

yes well....lol....okay.

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September 20, 2014, 04:55:13 PM
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Windows Client V.0.8 won't accept cut n paste passphrase, is this a problem my end or with the client?

I got that too. It makes logging in a very protracted process.

It works for me with ctrl+V

Thanks, problem fixed!
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September 20, 2014, 04:58:10 PM
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If you want a transparent IPO, make sure you do it scam-free like the NODE devs did. Smiley

Aren't the node devs holding 40% of all coins?
Yes. Devs have 40% of all coins.
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September 20, 2014, 05:08:34 PM
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If you want a transparent IPO, make sure you do it scam-free like the NODE devs did. Smiley

Aren't the node devs holding 40% of all coins?

Yes they hold 40%, but remember they don't hold 100% like the NXT devs did and actually sold them off to noobs on DGEX. You think they give a shit about you? no. NXT community are sheep.
Can we please stop working against each other? Remember, Supernet is there to bring all innovative coins together to bundle their strengths. If you have something to complain about NXT, you can do that on their forum Wink Thanks

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September 20, 2014, 05:13:40 PM
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you guys, we have a whitepaper now  Grin
top10 is easy.
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September 20, 2014, 05:22:48 PM
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Whitepaper is extremely vague and English is horrible.

Lol.. english is horrible and estonian? is also horrible? What did you expect? A technical explanation from a dev point of view?
It was supposed to be this way. It's for normal users. Not for an expert like you who can see the matrix.

A whitepaper is typically a "a technical explanation from a dev point of view". This "whitepaper" is a high-level abstract at best.

Hi Jaguar,

Please direct me to a cryptocurrency which, in your opinion, has published a proper whitepaper.


http://www.nxtcommunity.org/nxt-whitepaper


Node paper is lacking technical content. if i can understand it, then it is a weak paper

Yea, the NXT whitepaper is a good example.
i just think ALL NEM devs hate NODE  Roll Eyes


some of you don't seem to understand the grave you're digging by blindly fervently a coin that is still technically weak. you are building up a hype where there shouldn't be any. when people see this thread, they get excited and want to invest right away! little do they know that this coin shouldn't have even been launched (in my opinion). once they figure this out, they dump and stay away permanently.

then there are threads that I follow like BTCD/NEM/BBR where technical discussions are often taking place. these are the coins with the greatest potential because the community questions the developers and this provides a transparency to what the devs are doing. Here, this is the total opposite. Devs are quiet and hard to understand. 70% of posts are "to the moon" type.

if this coin falls, it is because of the weak community that calls FUD/troll when people ask questions about the project. this cannot continue to happen if node is going to succeed.

i hope the community understands what i am saying



The NODE whitepaper was very transparent and concise vs the NXT paper, even though it was technical - they failed to comment on the unfair distribution! ! NXT is an elaborate ponzi scam. Sorry to hurt your feelings. Smiley

what does unfair distribution mean to you?

NXT distributed the same way NODE did

It means that the NXT developers creating an illusion that 73 people invested in the IPO, but actually was the developers themselves sending BTC to their own addresses in return for the premined 1 billion coins set aside for the IPO. The same NXT coins you own now were once bought off them on DGEX for inflated prices to drive the total market cap up to fool noob investors like you are now. Talk about epic fail NXT deception.

If you want a transparent IPO, make sure you do it scam-free like the NODE devs did. Smiley
is this real ? fuck NXT
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September 20, 2014, 05:52:26 PM
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Oh boy, Visual111 sure did hit the nail on the head! You two should be cryptocurrency consultants or something.

Transparency is definitely lacking! For goodness sake, the Node devs haven't posted an update on this thread in 5 hours!!!!!!!!!!!!

And where is the whitepaper and roadmap? Oh wait...

TLDR version:

You are an imbecile.

that's fine if you don't understand what i'm saying, but there is no need to call names

i'm just pointing out where I think this coin is going wrong based on my experience with coins that are doing very well. coins that do well have certain traits, community being most important. look at the last 20 pages of this thread to get a sense of this community, particularly the last 3. whenever someone points out a weakness, people come out and vehemently defend the devs, calling people like me trolls/fuders. it's like a cult blindly following a leader. developers need to be hit hard with questions and they need to answer them, simple as that. otherwise the big money will lose interest in the coin and it will just fade away like so many other coins

so go ahead..keep destroying the coin by attacking questioners. maybe that is the goal?






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September 20, 2014, 06:04:07 PM
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If anyone looking for transparency here the souce code of NODE:

> https://www.dropbox.com/s/el8o6r4pdpi2zm1/nodecoin.zip?dl=0

I'm nodejs developer, NODE's dev isn't serious about this project, NODE was built with nodewebkit, and when you run the exe/app, it's actually only extract original source into tmp folder, and nw (nodewebkit) will run it.

As a dev, I think NODE is original idea choosing nodejs as development, and nodwebkit is very stable for who want make cryptocurrencies' wallet. But as critical person, i think NODE is not a good cryptocurrencies. If you want make a cryptocurrencies try GoLang, golang very fast for networking.

Thanks
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September 20, 2014, 06:14:47 PM
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actually ,we need a activity community,thats important.
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September 20, 2014, 06:25:56 PM
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Whitepaper is extremely vague and English is horrible.

Lol.. english is horrible and estonian? is also horrible? What did you expect? A technical explanation from a dev point of view?
It was supposed to be this way. It's for normal users. Not for an expert like you who can see the matrix.

A whitepaper is typically a "a technical explanation from a dev point of view". This "whitepaper" is a high-level abstract at best.

Hi Jaguar,

Please direct me to a cryptocurrency which, in your opinion, has published a proper whitepaper.


http://www.nxtcommunity.org/nxt-whitepaper


Node paper is lacking technical content. if i can understand it, then it is a weak paper

Yea, the NXT whitepaper is a good example.
i just think ALL NEM devs hate NODE  Roll Eyes


some of you don't seem to understand the grave you're digging by blindly fervently a coin that is still technically weak. you are building up a hype where there shouldn't be any. when people see this thread, they get excited and want to invest right away! little do they know that this coin shouldn't have even been launched (in my opinion). once they figure this out, they dump and stay away permanently.

then there are threads that I follow like BTCD/NEM/BBR where technical discussions are often taking place. these are the coins with the greatest potential because the community questions the developers and this provides a transparency to what the devs are doing. Here, this is the total opposite. Devs are quiet and hard to understand. 70% of posts are "to the moon" type.

if this coin falls, it is because of the weak community that calls FUD/troll when people ask questions about the project. this cannot continue to happen if node is going to succeed.

i hope the community understands what i am saying



The NODE whitepaper was very transparent and concise vs the NXT paper, even though it was technical - they failed to comment on the unfair distribution! ! NXT is an elaborate ponzi scam. Sorry to hurt your feelings. Smiley

what does unfair distribution mean to you?

NXT distributed the same way NODE did

It means that the NXT developers creating an illusion that 73 people invested in the IPO, but actually was the developers themselves sending BTC to their own addresses in return for the premined 1 billion coins set aside for the IPO. The same NXT coins you own now were once bought off them on DGEX for inflated prices to drive the total market cap up to fool noob investors like you are now. Talk about epic fail NXT deception.

If you want a transparent IPO, make sure you do it scam-free like the NODE devs did. Smiley

Erm i was an investor of nxt from the beggining im not a dev. I think what you forget to mention is that bcnxt left us the community the nxt plan. also called a road map in todays terms. everyone you see working on nxt was either an investor or an early adopter. Your scam talk makes you sound silly

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September 20, 2014, 07:19:41 PM
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actually ,we need a activity community,thats important.

The most important thing is to  activate in a positive way
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September 20, 2014, 07:22:43 PM
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The price is only going down because there was about 1000 people with 600.000 Nodes, and not everyone dump his coin at the beginning, so this are only stake dumpers.
It has nothing to do with the coin.

imo in 2-3 weeks are the most stakes are dumped and the price will be stable, when the the devs than deliever something, it will grow steady.

So i would say, sell your coins now, buy back when you can make 50% or 100% more coins and hold.

I disagree, I think the current price range is a fantastic buy opp with a bittrex add imminent. That alone should net some considerable attention towards this coin. Not going to speculate on exact price; however, I think now is a great short to mid-term buy.
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