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[kyma]

I prefer few big guys with steel hands selling and buying taking care of market rather than weak small panic sellers. Initially NXT had 23 shareholders.. they sold their nxt slowly taking care of market. Look at the last buy wall at 170.. rapidly was filled by weak panic sellers hands.. A big guy would set a not huge sell wall and wait for it to be bought..

I have steel hands especially at this price.. though I'm not much of a big guy

[Simakki]

I prefer few big guys with steel hands selling and buying taking care of market rather than weak small panic sellers. Initially NXT had 23 shareholders.. they sold their nxt slowly taking care of market. Look at the last buy wall at 170.. rapidly was filled by weak panic sellers hands.. A big guy would set a not huge sell wall and wait for it to be bought..

I have steel hands especially at this price.. though I'm not much of a big guy

Hmm NXT price surged in few weeks to the moon and NODE.. Well, we all know what happened after launch and it wasnt to the moon..

[sava0123]

It seems that your client don't work with 0.12.0 node.js version.

forever start index.js don't start it.

[GreenDude]

I prefer few big guys with steel hands selling and buying taking care of market rather than weak small panic sellers. Initially NXT had 23 shareholders.. they sold their nxt slowly taking care of market. Look at the last buy wall at 170.. rapidly was filled by weak panic sellers hands.. A big guy would set a not huge sell wall and wait for it to be bought..

I have steel hands especially at this price.. though I'm not much of a big guy

Hmm NXT price surged in few weeks to the moon and NODE.. Well, we all know what happened after launch and it wasnt to the moon..

Because NXTe was in 23 guys hands.. who were taking care of not dumping or taking market down. node was in 1000 guys hands. See the difference dude? And also privately btc-e admins were telling people to buy nxt. see the difference again?
anyway now node is in a early stage.. instead of giving to 23 guys node devs gave fairly to about 1000 guys in stages from free to 1,5BTC each stake... many of them already sold.. we got rid of our dumpers and there is money flowing in. u keep fudding.. instead of joining what is good. I'm very curious to see what happen when nem finally launch. there is so many people willing to be millionaire there.. let's see.

[dadingsda]

So after account 1855xxxxxxxxx there is another one who gets all the (big) fees: 89724xxxxxxxxxxxx 
This guy sucks extremely and i wonder as he´s online all the day or a bot makes small transactions so he can get all the fees.

I HATE YOU!!

[bhokor]

i still thinks that devs should modify the PoA to only reward to nodes (for example totaldaily fees/ 24 hours run nodes), in this way the system can not cheated and you only are rewarding to real network contributors, no to a bot system

it is only a opinion

[whitecloud]

Is an old problem that developers do not want to acknowledge / solve.
The reason given is that in future when there will be more transactions ... cheating will no longer work.
It is obvious that under the circumstances it takes just 2-3 guys to do that and take over 90% of fees even if it will be many more transactions.
Is the reason why although I like NODE (I run a node test client), I have given up to post here and I gave up to run client.

[dadingsda]

Yeah same here. I like NODE absolutely and in comparison with e.g NEM it´s quiet smooth and stable. But i hate this greedy bastards and i hope silk & co will find a good solution. I run NODE several hours each day and get almost nothing cause of this damn guy. That sucks. How much NODE earned this guy so far? Maybe 500 000 - 1 000 000    

[TheRealSilk]

Is an old problem that developers do not want to acknowledge / solve.
The reason given is that in future when there will be more transactions ... cheating will no longer work.
It is obvious that under the circumstances it takes just 2-3 guys to do that and take over 90% of fees even if it will be many more transactions.
Is the reason why although I like NODE (I run a node test client), I have given up to post here and I gave up to run client.

We are already working on improving the algorithm

[schnötzel]

One of the best coins out there. If dev´s will improve the algo ( but to be honest, i don´t care about the fee-opportunists)  and deliver Nodepay, this coin will be in top 10 easily!

[Eadeqa]

Because NXTe was in 23 guys hands.. who were taking care of not dumping or taking market down. node was in 1000 guys hands. See the difference dude? And also privately btc-e admins were telling people to buy nxt. see the difference again?
anyway now node is in a early stage.. instead of giving to 23 guys node devs gave fairly to about 1000 guys in stages from free to 1,5BTC each stake... many of them already sold.. we got rid of our dumpers and there is money flowing in. u keep fudding.. instead of joining what is good. I'm very curious to see what happen when nem finally launch. there is so many people willing to be millionaire there.. let's see.

This is all nonsense. Nxt was open IPO that remained open for two months. Anyone could join.  In the end only, only 73 put money. That's not the fault of Nxt but back then IPO weren't common. Nxt was first. After the launch in Nov, Nxt was traded on BTT forum for two months (and prices were very low, 1 btc for million nxt). There was still plenty of time for people who missed the IPO to buy cheap, and some did.   Nxt went up after it was added to BTER in January 2014.

[LemonAndFries]

So after account 1855xxxxxxxxx there is another one who gets all the (big) fees: 89724xxxxxxxxxxxx  
This guy sucks extremely and i wonder as he´s online all the day or a bot makes small transactions so he can get all the fees.

I HATE YOU!!

Yeah same here. I like NODE absolutely and in comparison with e.g NEM it´s quiet smooth and stable. But i hate this greedy bastards and i hope silk & co will find a good solution. I run NODE several hours each day and get almost nothing cause of this damn guy. That sucks. How much NODE earned this guy so far? Maybe 500 000 - 1 000 000    

That's why I decided to run a small node rewards program.

I give out 75 NODE a day after 3 days of running a node continuously, it's not much but it's better than nothing.

Crypto coins are supposed to be a community project, not someone selfishly hugging up everything.

I do agree though that the guy/s running those nodes (or anyone just trying to take advantage of the young market of crypto coins)  are not in the spirit of crypto and don't realize they are just hurting their own interests in the long run.

[Vega]

This is all nonsense. Nxt was open IPO that remained open for two months. Anyone could join.  In the end only, only 73 put money. That's not the fault of Nxt but back then IPO weren't common. Nxt was first. After the launch in Nov, Nxt was traded on BTT forum for two months (and prices were very low, 1 btc for million nxt). There was still plenty of time for people who missed the IPO to buy cheap, and some did.   Nxt went up after it was added to BTER in January 2014.

Actually it was more around a hundred (101?) who bought in, but only 73 claimed there share.
The price was low  for about two weeks, after started trading on dgex, the price went up nicely in a hurry, but the forum trading was quite active for months.
More than a few people were selling at a low price, but with nice profit. But still it can't compare to node, where hundreds tried to cash out in a hurry. Giving out stakes for free is good for distirbution but not for the short term price after launch.

[GreenDude]

This is all nonsense. Nxt was open IPO that remained open for two months. Anyone could join.  In the end only, only 73 put money. That's not the fault of Nxt but back then IPO weren't common. Nxt was first. After the launch in Nov, Nxt was traded on BTT forum for two months (and prices were very low, 1 btc for million nxt). There was still plenty of time for people who missed the IPO to buy cheap, and some did.   Nxt went up after it was added to BTER in January 2014.

Actually it was more around a hundred (101?) who bought in, but only 73 claimed there share.
The price was low  for about two weeks, after started trading on dgex, the price went up nicely in a hurry, but the forum trading was quite active for months, at a very reasonable price.
More than a few people were selling at a low price, but still it can't compare to node, where hundreds tried to cash out in a hurry. Giving out stakes for free is good for distirbution but not for the short term price after launch.

Exactly. if you make everyone pay like for example unity ofc price is not going down unless people is totally retarded. I don't care if NXT was one of the first IPO. What i say is true. it was just a bunch of guys who paid and were slowly selling taking care of market. And if you have btc-e admin telling you nxt is going to rocket sky of course there will be lot's of btc flowing in. atleast here was a good distribution. devs are not speculating.. and we got rid of our weak hands and panic seller in one of the worst btc moments. And in a couple weeks node is going to have a legal enterprise working globally. Having USD and EUR included. i dont know if u can see the difference with another pump and dump coins. I can and that's why im here. Nem was fine but i sold my stake at the first moment and i made 1200 euros from that stake. I dont know how much costs a stake right now. But they have lot's of users, 3x or 4x than node,- and i don't know if their launch is going to moon like simakki seems to expect. u can't compare nxt launch with node launch or nem launch who has even more users than node.

[3x2]

There is no need to fight and compare coins, NXT is one of the best 2nd gen coin and NODE is still in a early stage.

[GreenDude]

There is no need to fight and compare coins, NXT is one of the best 2nd gen coin and NODE is still in a early stage.

Agreed. I was an early nxter. And now im an early noder. Let's see how thing goes. 

[Hueristic]

This is all nonsense. Nxt was open IPO that remained open for two months. Anyone could join.  In the end only, only 73 put money. That's not the fault of Nxt but back then IPO weren't common. Nxt was first. After the launch in Nov, Nxt was traded on BTT forum for two months (and prices were very low, 1 btc for million nxt). There was still plenty of time for people who missed the IPO to buy cheap, and some did.   Nxt went up after it was added to BTER in January 2014.

Actually it was more around a hundred (101?) who bought in, but only 73 claimed there share.
The price was low  for about two weeks, after started trading on dgex, the price went up nicely in a hurry, but the forum trading was quite active for months.
More than a few people were selling at a low price, but with nice profit. But still it can't compare to node, where hundreds tried to cash out in a hurry. Giving out stakes for free is good for distirbution but not for the short term price after launch.

I still hold my free share and have no intention of selling it. I wonder how many others there are?

And yes keeping this wallet open without reward really sux ass. I also cannot run it 24/7 so I get nothing from the reward system either.

[sava0123]

This is all nonsense. Nxt was open IPO that remained open for two months. Anyone could join.  In the end only, only 73 put money. That's not the fault of Nxt but back then IPO weren't common. Nxt was first. After the launch in Nov, Nxt was traded on BTT forum for two months (and prices were very low, 1 btc for million nxt). There was still plenty of time for people who missed the IPO to buy cheap, and some did.   Nxt went up after it was added to BTER in January 2014.

Actually it was more around a hundred (101?) who bought in, but only 73 claimed there share.
The price was low  for about two weeks, after started trading on dgex, the price went up nicely in a hurry, but the forum trading was quite active for months.
More than a few people were selling at a low price, but with nice profit. But still it can't compare to node, where hundreds tried to cash out in a hurry. Giving out stakes for free is good for distirbution but not for the short term price after launch.

I still hold my free share and have no intention of selling it. I wonder how many others there are?

And yes keeping this wallet open without reward really sux ass. I also cannot run it 24/7 so I get nothing from the reward system either.

You can run it at least 12 hours per pay to qualify.

[l8orre]

There is no need to fight and compare coins, NXT is one of the best 2nd gen coin and NODE is still in a early stage.

Agreed. I was an early nxter. And now im an early noder. Let's see how thing goes. 

Nxt is a general purpose platform and node (started out aus NXTLite) is exclusively a payment system.

They can not be seen as in competition, because they are different things.

Nxt is an aircraft carrier and node is a speedboat. One does not simply hop into ones aircraft carrier to buy a few croissants!

[GreenDude]

There is no need to fight and compare coins, NXT is one of the best 2nd gen coin and NODE is still in a early stage.

Agreed. I was an early nxter. And now im an early noder. Let's see how thing goes.  

Nxt is a general purpose platform and node (started out aus NXTLite) is exclusively a payment system.

They can not be seen as in competition, because they are different things.

Nxt is an aircraft carrier and node is a speedboat. One does not simply hop into ones aircraft carrier to buy a few croissants!

Im not seeing them as in competition. I was telling let's see how things goes for NODE. NXT did good for what was it's purpose. And i think NODE will do good for what is intented to be. I think NODE will be much bigger (monetarily talking) than NXT. As i did good being an early nxter i hope to be right about being an early noder