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July 06, 2014, 04:08:47 AM
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Great job on blasting out some Sock Puppets!

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July 06, 2014, 07:22:45 AM
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Hi, I create a Page named Node money. https://www.facebook.com/node.money Smiley
If they want to make it the official page just say so.
Thanks for the effort - but please no facebook or any other big-company-must-register-data-collection-surveillance-get-the-f*ck-out-website Wink

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July 06, 2014, 08:32:11 AM
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My Node account is 17780801381767481802 - which is currently working but seems to be absent from the stakeholder list, even though my name is on the list.  I pointed this out months ago but nobody had updated it with an account number.


So how does this stakeholder list work?  The highlighted names are socks?


I'm in the same boat as you. Not sure who to contact but I have PM'd a few people. My account is: 6605087677329152093

not sure if you guys read this or not?
https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=mail&passive=true&rm=false&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fgmail.google.com%2Fgmail%3Fui%3Dhtml%26zy%3Dl

there was an announcement a while back that people needed to redo their account

could that be the problem?

Yep, I have done it since then, actually twice now. (But second time was somewhat recent).

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July 06, 2014, 08:45:17 AM
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My Node account is 17780801381767481802 - which is currently working but seems to be absent from the stakeholder list, even though my name is on the list.  I pointed this out months ago but nobody had updated it with an account number.


So how does this stakeholder list work?  The highlighted names are socks?


I'm in the same boat as you. Not sure who to contact but I have PM'd a few people. My account is: 6605087677329152093

not sure if you guys read this or not?
https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=mail&passive=true&rm=false&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fgmail.google.com%2Fgmail%3Fui%3Dhtml%26zy%3Dl

there was an announcement a while back that people needed to redo their account

could that be the problem?

Yep, I have done it since then, actually twice now. (But second time was somewhat recent).

Your account has been updated https://docs.google.com/a/page.md/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnYj5G7gBeXIdGtHam1UOXlDaDR6VFFZMGp3bVRnSHc&usp=sharing&richtext=true&pli=1#gid=0

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July 06, 2014, 10:23:08 AM
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what do the P18 and P3 mean?
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July 06, 2014, 10:40:06 AM
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what do the P18 and P3 mean?

P stands for Puppet!

The number is the group associated with a particular Puppet Master!!

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July 06, 2014, 10:57:00 AM
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what do the P18 and P3 mean?

P stands for Puppet!

The number is the group associated with a particular Puppet Master!!

What method are you using to detect those account?  Scanner?
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July 06, 2014, 10:59:55 AM
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what do the P18 and P3 mean?

P stands for Puppet!

The number is the group associated with a particular Puppet Master!!

What method are you using to detect those account?  Scanner?

Here is the announcement: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590421.msg7550635#msg7550635

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July 06, 2014, 11:05:35 AM
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what do the P18 and P3 mean?

P stands for Puppet!

The number is the group associated with a particular Puppet Master!!

What method are you using to detect those account?  Scanner?

Here is the announcement: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590421.msg7550635#msg7550635

However, publicly showing puppet account of people is not cool. I just contacted someone that I saw his puppet usernames. You should have it hidden or just removed it.

What if you were wrong? How are you going to compensate the individual?
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what do the P18 and P3 mean?

P stands for Puppet!

The number is the group associated with a particular Puppet Master!!

i am P18, the other guys like  “waltz” and “beida“  are P18 too, so you mean we are the same puppet master?
what is ridiculous! i come from South Africa, but the  other guy seems to come from Japan!

 your filtering method is a little arbitrary.
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July 06, 2014, 11:22:31 AM
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what do the P18 and P3 mean?

P stands for Puppet!

The number is the group associated with a particular Puppet Master!!

What method are you using to detect those account?  Scanner?

Here is the announcement: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590421.msg7550635#msg7550635

However, publicly showing puppet account of people is not cool. I just contacted someone that I saw his puppet usernames. You should have it hidden or just removed it.

What if you were wrong? How are you going to compensate the individual?

I do admit that you have a point! But i would like to hear your explanation, why do you think it is not cool??? And why should we hide it??

I'm not saying that you are wrong, and we won't do it! I'm just curious of your opinion!

And by any means we are not trying to discreditate  someone, we are doing our job! And if the community is agains our way of doing it! We will gladly change the method!

And we are only pointing out the obvious! If we see the potential of being wrong we don't take the chance of highlighting an innocent person!

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July 06, 2014, 11:31:45 AM
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what do the P18 and P3 mean?

P stands for Puppet!

The number is the group associated with a particular Puppet Master!!

What method are you using to detect those account?  Scanner?

Here is the announcement: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590421.msg7550635#msg7550635

However, publicly showing puppet account of people is not cool. I just contacted someone that I saw his puppet usernames. You should have it hidden or just removed it.

What if you were wrong? How are you going to compensate the individual?

I do admit that you have a point! But i would like to hear your explanation, why do you think it is not cool??? And why should we hide it??

I'm not saying that you are wrong, and we won't do it! I'm just curious of your opinion!

And by any means we are not trying to discreditate  someone, we are doing our job! And if the community is agains our way of doing it! We will gladly change the method!

And we are only pointing out the obvious! If wee see the potential of being wrong we don't take the chance of highlighting an innocent person!


Don't they deserve their privacy? Do you consider family members / co-workers account as puppet?

I have seen an account that has no connection to the linked puppet.
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July 06, 2014, 11:34:41 AM
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what do the P18 and P3 mean?

P stands for Puppet!

The number is the group associated with a particular Puppet Master!!

i am P18, the other guys like  “waltz” and “beida“  are P18 too, so you mean we are the same puppet master?
what is ridiculous! i come from South Africa, but the  other guy seems to come from Japan!

 your filtering method is a little arbitrary.

GeoLocation is something! but how do you explain the obvious: your nickname "rockhill" #486 - and just 4 positions higher #482 user "hill"!

hmmm...

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July 06, 2014, 11:34:59 AM
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what do the P18 and P3 mean?

P stands for Puppet!

The number is the group associated with a particular Puppet Master!!

What method are you using to detect those account?  Scanner?

Here is the announcement: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590421.msg7550635#msg7550635

However, publicly showing puppet account of people is not cool. I just contacted someone that I saw his puppet usernames. You should have it hidden or just removed it.

What if you were wrong? How are you going to compensate the individual?

I do admit that you have a point! But i would like to hear your explanation, why do you think it is not cool??? And why should we hide it??

I'm not saying that you are wrong, and we won't do it! I'm just curious of your opinion!

And by any means we are not trying to discreditate  someone, we are doing our job! And if the community is agains our way of doing it! We will gladly change the method!

And we are only pointing out the obvious! If we see the potential of being wrong we don't take the chance of highlighting an innocent person!


You can be 100% right only if 2 payments were made from the same address. Otherwise there's a chance that you've mistaken. I hate to tell it again but I'm tired to see how you handle ALL orginizing stuff.

When we were looking for puppets in NEM we posted evidences first, then checked them and then devs deleted puppets. You can't mark people as puppets unless you're 100% sure. You're not in the right to put someone's fair name under question.

At least post evidences and mark them as "potencial puppets". But you mark them as puppets with no evidences provided.

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July 06, 2014, 11:36:21 AM
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what do the P18 and P3 mean?

P stands for Puppet!

The number is the group associated with a particular Puppet Master!!

i am P18, the other guys like  “waltz” and “beida“  are P18 too, so you mean we are the same puppet master?
what is ridiculous! i come from South Africa, but the  other guy seems to come from Japan!

 your filtering method is a little arbitrary.

GeoLocation is something! but how do you explain the obvious: your nickname "rockhill" #486 - and just 4 positions higher #482 user "hill"!

hmmm...

ARE YOU EVEN SERIOUS?!  Shocked

Is that your evidence? Mother of god, people, what's wrong with you?

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July 06, 2014, 11:42:04 AM
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If that's how you "found" almost 100 "puppets" be ready for almost 100 angry users.

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July 06, 2014, 11:44:18 AM
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what do the P18 and P3 mean?

P stands for Puppet!

The number is the group associated with a particular Puppet Master!!

i am P18, the other guys like  “waltz” and “beida“  are P18 too, so you mean we are the same puppet master?
what is ridiculous! i come from South Africa, but the  other guy seems to come from Japan!

 your filtering method is a little arbitrary.

GeoLocation is something! but how do you explain the obvious: your nickname "rockhill" #486 - and just 4 positions higher #482 user "hill"!

hmmm...

GeoLocation is misleading! just hill like rockhill, than they are the same person? with the same way, why donot you mark "waltz" and "manowar" as the puppet master?
you shold contact the ”hill“, "waltz” and "ney" guy, i will report the BTT monitor that you are destroying some kind person's reputation!


You can be 100% right only if 2 payments were made from the same address. Otherwise there's a chance that you've mistaken. I hate to tell it again but I'm tired to see how you handle ALL orginizing stuff.
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July 06, 2014, 11:53:37 AM
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what do the P18 and P3 mean?

P stands for Puppet!

The number is the group associated with a particular Puppet Master!!

i am P18, the other guys like  “waltz” and “beida“  are P18 too, so you mean we are the same puppet master?
what is ridiculous! i come from South Africa, but the  other guy seems to come from Japan!

 your filtering method is a little arbitrary.

GeoLocation is something! but how do you explain the obvious: your nickname "rockhill" #486 - and just 4 positions higher #482 user "hill"!

hmmm...

GeoLocation is misleading! just hill like rockhill, than they are the same person? with the same way, why donot you mark "waltz" and "manowar" as the puppet master?
you shold contact the hill guy, i will report the BTT monitor that you are destroying some kind person's reputation!


That's crazy, I agree.

I checked few more people. There's a total scumbag, asshole and troll Attack.of.the.Clones, who I fought in Qora thread, marked with the same number as a user who looks like a decent guy and a newbie account. I can only wonder what connection they could possibly find between them...

"rockhill" and "hill"... well, no comments, just a huge facepalm

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July 06, 2014, 11:54:09 AM
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what do the P18 and P3 mean?

P stands for Puppet!

The number is the group associated with a particular Puppet Master!!

What method are you using to detect those account?  Scanner?

Here is the announcement: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590421.msg7550635#msg7550635

However, publicly showing puppet account of people is not cool. I just contacted someone that I saw his puppet usernames. You should have it hidden or just removed it.

What if you were wrong? How are you going to compensate the individual?

I do admit that you have a point! But i would like to hear your explanation, why do you think it is not cool??? And why should we hide it??

I'm not saying that you are wrong, and we won't do it! I'm just curious of your opinion!

And by any means we are not trying to discreditate  someone, we are doing our job! And if the community is agains our way of doing it! We will gladly change the method!

And we are only pointing out the obvious! If we see the potential of being wrong we don't take the chance of highlighting an innocent person!


You can be 100% right only if 2 payments were made from the same address. Otherwise there's a chance that you've mistaken. I hate to tell it again but I'm tired to see how you handle ALL orginizing stuff.

When we were looking for puppets in NEM we posted evidences first, then checked them and then devs deleted puppets. You can't mark people as puppets unless you're 100% sure. You're not in the right to put someone's fair name under question.

At least post evidences and mark them as "potencial puppets". But you mark them as puppets with no evidences provided.
what do the P18 and P3 mean?

P stands for Puppet!

The number is the group associated with a particular Puppet Master!!

What method are you using to detect those account?  Scanner?

Here is the announcement: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590421.msg7550635#msg7550635

However, publicly showing puppet account of people is not cool. I just contacted someone that I saw his puppet usernames. You should have it hidden or just removed it.

What if you were wrong? How are you going to compensate the individual?

I do admit that you have a point! But i would like to hear your explanation, why do you think it is not cool??? And why should we hide it??

I'm not saying that you are wrong, and we won't do it! I'm just curious of your opinion!

And by any means we are not trying to discreditate  someone, we are doing our job! And if the community is agains our way of doing it! We will gladly change the method!

And we are only pointing out the obvious! If we see the potential of being wrong we don't take the chance of highlighting an innocent person!


You can be 100% right only if 2 payments were made from the same address. Otherwise there's a chance that you've mistaken. I hate to tell it again but I'm tired to see how you handle ALL orginizing stuff.

When we were looking for puppets in NEM we posted evidences first, then checked them and then devs deleted puppets. You can't mark people as puppets unless you're 100% sure. You're not in the right to put someone's fair name under question.

At least post evidences and mark them as "potencial puppets". But you mark them as puppets with no evidences provided.
If that's how you "found" almost 100 "puppets" be ready for almost 100 angree users.

Of course we are serious! And we are 100% sure of it! More than that remember our announcement: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590421.msg7550635#msg7550635 ?! That is the method including a secret one that will divulged later!

I hate to repeat myself:  THIS IS NOT NEM!!!

and in the earlier message i'm just messing with "rockhill" cause we are already aware of whats going on!

Ohh, and about the proof! We want to make a commission of honest NODE Users!!! For instance like you! Who will check our secret method of identifying the puppets, and that can give credit of its workability!

what do you say ??

Also what will be your answer to
what do the P18 and P3 mean?

P stands for Puppet!

The number is the group associated with a particular Puppet Master!!

What method are you using to detect those account?  Scanner?

Here is the announcement: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590421.msg7550635#msg7550635

However, publicly showing puppet account of people is not cool. I just contacted someone that I saw his puppet usernames. You should have it hidden or just removed it.

What if you were wrong? How are you going to compensate the individual?

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July 06, 2014, 12:04:36 PM
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As for FlyCloud and FeiKanny looks like 100% hit. All payments made from https://blockchain.info/address/13BaV9am5PBGjsH9xEztde3Hngsx9UBzcG

But "hill" and "rockhill", c'mon people...


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