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NEM was the first and no one cared in January so that could work in their favor. Do you think a veteran member cared that much about a clone alt. to make socks and sent money in in January ? Take kora for example, I don't even care enough to register for free until today. So how can they get more than 1000 veteran accounts ?
Nem actually came at right moment for "sock puppets" as it was heavily advertised and compared to Nxt where original Nxt stakeholders by January had made 1000s times the profit. I think the whole "sock puppets" thing started with Nem. It was not an issue before that. Correct. There was never an issue will alt. accounts before. I think the whole fair distribution IPO is comical. |
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Eadeqa
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July 08, 2014, 06:35:08 PM |
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Correct. There was never an issue will alt. accounts before. I think the whole fair distribution IPO is comical.
Exactly. "Fair distribution" does not work. Let everyone put any BTC they want (maybe put a hard limit at 2 BTC which will start to hurt sock puppets). At least it's fair then. Now my sock puppets were removed as I never denied and disputed it, but others might go through as they have laundry list of family members or are using a coffeehouse. This is fundamentally "unfair". Let me (and all socks) pay more and give us back our shares. I will be happy with a solution where honesty isn't penliazed |
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koop4u (OP)
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July 08, 2014, 06:42:38 PM |
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@ everyone!
You think your situation is obscure! Check the list for azure and yellow! You will be surprised!
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Eadeqa
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July 08, 2014, 06:47:12 PM |
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@ everyone!
You think your situation is obscure! Check the list for azure and yellow! You will be surprised!
What is azure? What's yellow label? |
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NewWorldCoiner
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Saved you from a scam? Send me some BTC!
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July 08, 2014, 06:47:31 PM |
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Correct. There was never an issue will alt. accounts before. I think the whole fair distribution IPO is comical.
Exactly. "Fair distribution" does not work. Let everyone put any BTC they want (maybe put a hard limit at 2 BTC which will start to hurt sock puppets). At least it's fair then. Now my sock puppets were removed as I never denied and disputed it, but others might go through as they have laundry list of family members or are using a coffeehouse. This is fundamentally "unfair". Let me (and all socks) pay more and give us back our shares. I will be happy with a solution where honesty isn't penliazedSo creating sock puppet accounts is honest is it? If it were up to me, you would lose all your stakes, no refunds. |
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koop4u (OP)
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July 08, 2014, 06:54:53 PM |
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@ everyone!
You think your situation is obscure! Check the list for azure and yellow! You will be surprised!
What is azure? What's yellow label? The same Puppet Markup! But for Distinguished Masters! |
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Eadeqa
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July 08, 2014, 07:02:05 PM |
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If it were up to me, you would lose all your stakes, no refunds.
Not "honest" but when you see laundry list of people creating sock puppets, it's "fair".I even asked SilkRoad back then to record IPs (that was 4 months ago or something before his account got banned). pretty cool it worked, actually. |
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ARGpentem
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July 08, 2014, 07:11:31 PM |
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@ everyone!
You think your situation is obscure! Check the list for azure and yellow! You will be surprised!
What is azure? What's yellow label? The same Puppet Markup! But for Distinguished Masters! Well-done mate. Annihilate the cock-puppets. |
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s11made
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July 08, 2014, 07:24:50 PM |
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Wow, looks like more than 1/3rd of all accounts are sock puppets. That's a lot. Good for the rest of us. Maybe this means more coins for the rest of us  |
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July 08, 2014, 07:30:37 PM |
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Wow, looks like more than 1/3rd of all accounts are sock puppets. That's a lot. Good for the rest of us. Maybe this means more coins for the rest of us Yeah I agree! I just had a look at the updated spreadsheet and its like a rainbow of sock puppet rankings on the list!  I think the devs did a great job to be able to catch so many with their various methods. Now we just have to weigh the evidence for any who want to state their case and then we have very solid distribution! |
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LemonAndFries
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July 08, 2014, 07:41:03 PM |
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wait.
what?
I'm a sock puppet?
LOL, this is getting good.
Looks like you might have a failed coin at hand.
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ARGpentem
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July 08, 2014, 07:46:28 PM |
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Wow, looks like more than 1/3rd of all accounts are sock puppets. That's a lot. Good for the rest of us. Maybe this means more coins for the rest of us Yeah I agree! I just had a look at the updated spreadsheet and its like a rainbow of sock puppet rankings on the list! I think the devs did a great job to be able to catch so many with their various methods. Now we just have to weigh the evidence for any who want to state their case and then we have very solid distribution! It is a worse distribution because the shares of the developers are even bigger than before. It it already very big 40% of the supply and now Node team accuse people of sock puppets, take their shares away and put in their pocket. |
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July 08, 2014, 07:48:55 PM |
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Wow, looks like more than 1/3rd of all accounts are sock puppets. That's a lot. Good for the rest of us. Maybe this means more coins for the rest of us Yeah I agree! I just had a look at the updated spreadsheet and its like a rainbow of sock puppet rankings on the list! I think the devs did a great job to be able to catch so many with their various methods. Now we just have to weigh the evidence for any who want to state their case and then we have very solid distribution! It is a worse distribution because the shares of the developers are even bigger than before. It it already very big 40% of the supply and now Node team accuse people of sock puppets, take their shares away and put in their pocket. dont worry, I've been watching and this whole thing is getting stupider every day |
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s11made
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July 08, 2014, 08:01:47 PM |
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It is a worse distribution because the shares of the developers are even bigger than before. It it already very big 40% of the supply and now Node team accuse people of sock puppets, take their shares away and put in their pocket.
They can't juste put those coins in their pocket. The coins have to be distributed to the investors in some way or another. Remember their first Announcment of NXTL. Completely Fair Distribution †
No arbitrary rule of distribution. No dictator to tell you how to do things. The most egalitarian coin. Show your love to NXTL.
Coin distribution plan:
- Member fund (60%) - The total amount of coins that will be divided between our founders.
- Promotion fund (15%) - For promoting NXTL, encourage people to participate (forums, sites, social, etc.)
- Development fund (15%) - for developers to perform functional and system support. We will implement all the best ideas, and make the system dev friendly!
- Good Idea fund (5%) - FOr Innovations, good ideas improving NXTL .
- Test fund (3%) - Versatile Test Coins, to get people to test the platform or as give-away.
- Target fund (2%) - Small budget that will cover unplanned goals.(Donation, member support, etc).
(Announcement can still be found Here ) 60% will go to the investors. They can't just change that, as they said that there will be no dicatator who tells us how things are done. I think the Devs won't let us down in any way. They seem to be good at what they do and certainly will improve further. |
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ARGpentem
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July 08, 2014, 08:17:40 PM |
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It is a worse distribution because the shares of the developers are even bigger than before. It it already very big 40% of the supply and now Node team accuse people of sock puppets, take their shares away and put in their pocket.
They can't juste put those coins in their pocket. The coins have to be distributed to the investors in some way or another. Remember their first Announcment of NXTL. Completely Fair Distribution †
No arbitrary rule of distribution. No dictator to tell you how to do things. The most egalitarian coin. Show your love to NXTL.
Coin distribution plan:
- Member fund (60%) - The total amount of coins that will be divided between our founders.
- Promotion fund (15%) - For promoting NXTL, encourage people to participate (forums, sites, social, etc.)
- Development fund (15%) - for developers to perform functional and system support. We will implement all the best ideas, and make the system dev friendly!
- Good Idea fund (5%) - FOr Innovations, good ideas improving NXTL .
- Test fund (3%) - Versatile Test Coins, to get people to test the platform or as give-away.
- Target fund (2%) - Small budget that will cover unplanned goals.(Donation, member support, etc).
(Announcement can still be found Here ) 60% will go to the investors. They can't just change that, as they said that there will be no dicatator who tells us how things are done. I think the Devs won't let us down in any way. They seem to be good at what they do and certainly will improve further. everyone will have a happy bump from 450.000 coin to 500.000 and the rest goes to Node team pocket https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590421.msg7664408#msg7664408 |
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dzarmush
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July 08, 2014, 08:35:05 PM |
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It is a worse distribution because the shares of the developers are even bigger than before. It it already very big 40% of the supply and now Node team accuse people of sock puppets, take their shares away and put in their pocket.
They can't juste put those coins in their pocket. The coins have to be distributed to the investors in some way or another. Remember their first Announcment of NXTL. Completely Fair Distribution †
No arbitrary rule of distribution. No dictator to tell you how to do things. The most egalitarian coin. Show your love to NXTL.
Coin distribution plan:
- Member fund (60%) - The total amount of coins that will be divided between our founders.
- Promotion fund (15%) - For promoting NXTL, encourage people to participate (forums, sites, social, etc.)
- Development fund (15%) - for developers to perform functional and system support. We will implement all the best ideas, and make the system dev friendly!
- Good Idea fund (5%) - FOr Innovations, good ideas improving NXTL .
- Test fund (3%) - Versatile Test Coins, to get people to test the platform or as give-away.
- Target fund (2%) - Small budget that will cover unplanned goals.(Donation, member support, etc).
(Announcement can still be found Here ) 60% will go to the investors. They can't just change that, as they said that there will be no dicatator who tells us how things are done. I think the Devs won't let us down in any way. They seem to be good at what they do and certainly will improve further. everyone will have a happy bump from 450.000 coin to 500.000 and the rest goes to Node team pocket https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590421.msg7664408#msg7664408I wouldn't mind if they launch an auction for a few hundred stakes. Everybody wins in this situation. |
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s11made
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July 08, 2014, 08:36:39 PM |
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Most of the time they re-change what is not accepted by the community. And with their statement, that there is no dictator who tells what to do, I believe that they will stick to the 60% as they initially said and we investors agreed upon . An auction would still be possible and would not violate the initial statement. |
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ARGpentem
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July 08, 2014, 08:51:00 PM |
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It is a worse distribution because the shares of the developers are even bigger than before. It it already very big 40% of the supply and now Node team accuse people of sock puppets, take their shares away and put in their pocket.
They can't juste put those coins in their pocket. The coins have to be distributed to the investors in some way or another. Remember their first Announcment of NXTL. Completely Fair Distribution †
No arbitrary rule of distribution. No dictator to tell you how to do things. The most egalitarian coin. Show your love to NXTL.
Coin distribution plan:
- Member fund (60%) - The total amount of coins that will be divided between our founders.
- Promotion fund (15%) - For promoting NXTL, encourage people to participate (forums, sites, social, etc.)
- Development fund (15%) - for developers to perform functional and system support. We will implement all the best ideas, and make the system dev friendly!
- Good Idea fund (5%) - FOr Innovations, good ideas improving NXTL .
- Test fund (3%) - Versatile Test Coins, to get people to test the platform or as give-away.
- Target fund (2%) - Small budget that will cover unplanned goals.(Donation, member support, etc).
(Announcement can still be found Here ) 60% will go to the investors. They can't just change that, as they said that there will be no dicatator who tells us how things are done. I think the Devs won't let us down in any way. They seem to be good at what they do and certainly will improve further. everyone will have a happy bump from 450.000 coin to 500.000 and the rest goes to Node team pocket https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590421.msg7664408#msg7664408I wouldn't mind if they launch an auction for a few hundred stakes. Everybody wins in this situation. Could you give me an estimate of how much money they have collected ? |
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dzarmush
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July 08, 2014, 09:07:54 PM |
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It is a worse distribution because the shares of the developers are even bigger than before. It it already very big 40% of the supply and now Node team accuse people of sock puppets, take their shares away and put in their pocket.
They can't juste put those coins in their pocket. The coins have to be distributed to the investors in some way or another. Remember their first Announcment of NXTL. Completely Fair Distribution †
No arbitrary rule of distribution. No dictator to tell you how to do things. The most egalitarian coin. Show your love to NXTL.
Coin distribution plan:
- Member fund (60%) - The total amount of coins that will be divided between our founders.
- Promotion fund (15%) - For promoting NXTL, encourage people to participate (forums, sites, social, etc.)
- Development fund (15%) - for developers to perform functional and system support. We will implement all the best ideas, and make the system dev friendly!
- Good Idea fund (5%) - FOr Innovations, good ideas improving NXTL .
- Test fund (3%) - Versatile Test Coins, to get people to test the platform or as give-away.
- Target fund (2%) - Small budget that will cover unplanned goals.(Donation, member support, etc).
(Announcement can still be found Here ) 60% will go to the investors. They can't just change that, as they said that there will be no dicatator who tells us how things are done. I think the Devs won't let us down in any way. They seem to be good at what they do and certainly will improve further. everyone will have a happy bump from 450.000 coin to 500.000 and the rest goes to Node team pocket https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590421.msg7664408#msg7664408I wouldn't mind if they launch an auction for a few hundred stakes. Everybody wins in this situation. Could you give me an estimate of how much money they have collected ? I wasn't tracking ) But not much. I'd say 50 btc or something. Which is very very little. |
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Chris001
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July 08, 2014, 09:42:04 PM |
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It is a worse distribution because the shares of the developers are even bigger than before. It it already very big 40% of the supply and now Node team accuse people of sock puppets, take their shares away and put in their pocket.
They can't juste put those coins in their pocket. The coins have to be distributed to the investors in some way or another. Remember their first Announcment of NXTL. Completely Fair Distribution †
No arbitrary rule of distribution. No dictator to tell you how to do things. The most egalitarian coin. Show your love to NXTL.
Coin distribution plan:
- Member fund (60%) - The total amount of coins that will be divided between our founders.
- Promotion fund (15%) - For promoting NXTL, encourage people to participate (forums, sites, social, etc.)
- Development fund (15%) - for developers to perform functional and system support. We will implement all the best ideas, and make the system dev friendly!
- Good Idea fund (5%) - FOr Innovations, good ideas improving NXTL .
- Test fund (3%) - Versatile Test Coins, to get people to test the platform or as give-away.
- Target fund (2%) - Small budget that will cover unplanned goals.(Donation, member support, etc).
(Announcement can still be found Here ) 60% will go to the investors. They can't just change that, as they said that there will be no dicatator who tells us how things are done. I think the Devs won't let us down in any way. They seem to be good at what they do and certainly will improve further. everyone will have a happy bump from 450.000 coin to 500.000 and the rest goes to Node team pocket https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590421.msg7664408#msg7664408I wouldn't mind if they launch an auction for a few hundred stakes. Everybody wins in this situation. Yes, I totally agree, lets get another auction going |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=186785Here is the link to my trust settings here on forum. This trust system is very unfair. I make good on every deal Ive ever made. I had many, many deals as you can see and I never scammed anyone. All it takes is a random account to give you negative trust and youre screwed. Tomatocage has never even talked to me ever but when the random acct hit me with negative trust, Tomatocage came right behind him and marked neg trust again so obviously he was the one who did it. You can look at Tomatocage trust and see how many of his compeditors at the currency exchange thread he labeled scammers. I never scammed anyone. My trust was green over 20 before this. I hope it never happens to you because the mods cant help you.
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