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November 30, 2014, 12:27:15 PM |
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wallet not syncing, any solutions?
block 4595 here. If it gets stuck just close and reopen. I ran the Linux version on a vps and no problem. My linux vps node finally crashed after it was stuck for two days ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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Stand up , Stand up , Stand up !
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November 30, 2014, 12:54:39 PM |
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50$ Volume in 24 hours... So boring ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) Next three months will remain in this volume
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I have to get back all the lost .
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November 30, 2014, 12:57:56 PM |
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50$ Volume in 24 hours... So boring ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) Next three months will remain in this volume Better than P&D. it takes time to get more people involved.
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Nodeclub
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November 30, 2014, 05:03:30 PM Last edit: November 30, 2014, 05:21:05 PM by Nodeclub |
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Due to numerous requests of Node community we have decided to reveal some secrets of network architecture and structure of queries and interactions before the end of beta. The main secret of transaction speed is in the structure of Node network which is designed according to the principle of functioning and interconnections of brain neural network. All nodes in the system are peers similar to brain neurons. Ordinary nodes serve as input neurons, the main nodes play the role of hidden neurons. Blockchain this output neuron. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs25.postimg.org%2Fkftiqp3db%2FNeural_network_node_final.png&t=665&c=iZgT0Vc5sDmkxg) Node network includes the main nodes and ordinary nodes. Main node is a client running on the server via a key (start index.js -key: examplekey), ordinary node are the same clients running without a key. Number of main nodes is mathematically unlimited. Main node takes over 10,000 connections. If you run the client and first main node already has 10,000 connections than the client connects to the next main node. Ordinary nodes are connected to the main node and to the several other connected nodes through the main node. The main nodes primarily interact with each other. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs25.postimg.org%2F58dj6cbin%2FNode_network_architecture_final_green.png&t=665&c=RHhi06J5zpCMkA) For quick transaction the client needs to keep connection with one main node and with several ordinary nodes. There's enough 2-10 connections for fast work. If the transaction is committed by main node and by several ordinary nodes it is enough to fix the transaction by the entire network via priority communication of main nodes. Thus, the client does not need to keep the simultaneous multiparty connection with all other network clients to sync transaction. Kind Regards to all Nodepeople, Nodelab
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November 30, 2014, 05:08:18 PM |
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Due to numerous requests of Node community we have decided to reveal some secrets of network architecture and structure of queries and interactions before the end of the beta.
The main secret of transaction speed is in the structure of Node network which is designed according to the principle of functioning and interconnections of brain neural network.
All nodes in the system are peers similar to brain neurons. Ordinary nodes serve as input neurons, the main nodes play the role of hidden neurons. Blockchain this output neuron.
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Node network includes the main nodes and ordinary nodes.
Main node is a client running on the server via a key (start index.js -key: examplekey), ordinary node are the same clients running without a key. Number of main nodes is mathematically unlimited.
Main node takes over 10,000 connections. If you run the client and first main node already has 10,000 connections than the client connects to the next main node.
Ordinary nodes are connected to the main node and with several other connected nodes through the main node. The main nodes primarily interact with each other.
*image*
For quick transaction the client needs to keep connection with one main node and with several ordinary nodes. There's enough 2-10 connections for fast work. If the transaction is committed by main node and several ordinary nodes it is enough to fix the transaction by the entire network via priority communication of main nodes.
Thus, the client does not need to keep the simultaneous multiparty connection with all other network clients to sync transaction.
I'm glad someone that is able to speak proper english steps up and explains the infrastructure. I really don't mean to offend anyone but it was about time ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) This is completely different from what we were told though. On first glance this doesn't look fully decentralized. I'm not against distributed (as oppsosed to decentralized) networks as I'm also a supporter of the technology behind Ripple but this is just completely different from what has been presented so far (lord knows the whitepaper didn't mention any of this). I guess the language barrier is taking it's toll afterall. Thanks for posting this !
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LemonAndFries
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November 30, 2014, 05:18:30 PM |
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wallet not syncing, any solutions?
block 4595 here. If it gets stuck just close and reopen. I ran the Linux version on a vps and no problem. The problem is with windows 8.1 where once it verifies the blocks it doesn't go beyond the "Loading..." screen. I tried restarting it and erasing nxtlt.db and nxtltTx.db along with replacing it with the one provided but it will still not load the new blocks. I run into the same problem, which got solved by leaving the client on for a long time after deleting those files (with the "Loading..." screen visible) I've left it on overnight and nothing. I restart and it always restarts from block 3904 or if I erase the nxtlt.db and nxtltTx.db it never downloads the blocks, it just goes straight to "loading..." screen and stays there.
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hypersire
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November 30, 2014, 06:22:43 PM |
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Due to numerous requests of Node community we have decided to reveal some secrets of network architecture and structure of queries and interactions before the end of the beta.
The main secret of transaction speed is in the structure of Node network which is designed according to the principle of functioning and interconnections of brain neural network.
All nodes in the system are peers similar to brain neurons. Ordinary nodes serve as input neurons, the main nodes play the role of hidden neurons. Blockchain this output neuron.
*image*
Node network includes the main nodes and ordinary nodes.
Main node is a client running on the server via a key (start index.js -key: examplekey), ordinary node are the same clients running without a key. Number of main nodes is mathematically unlimited.
Main node takes over 10,000 connections. If you run the client and first main node already has 10,000 connections than the client connects to the next main node.
Ordinary nodes are connected to the main node and with several other connected nodes through the main node. The main nodes primarily interact with each other.
*image*
For quick transaction the client needs to keep connection with one main node and with several ordinary nodes. There's enough 2-10 connections for fast work. If the transaction is committed by main node and several ordinary nodes it is enough to fix the transaction by the entire network via priority communication of main nodes.
Thus, the client does not need to keep the simultaneous multiparty connection with all other network clients to sync transaction.
I'm glad someone that is able to speak proper english steps up and explains the infrastructure. I really don't mean to offend anyone but it was about time ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) This is completely different from what we were told though. On first glance this doesn't look fully decentralized. I'm not against distributed (as oppsosed to decentralized) networks as I'm also a supporter of the technology behind Ripple but this is just completely different from what has been presented so far (lord knows the whitepaper didn't mention any of this). I guess the language barrier is taking it's toll afterall. Thanks for posting this ! I'd argue that it is less of a case of language barriers, and more of a case of "NEM bias" (AKA "looking out for my own bag itis") that pretty much everyone who comes to this thread screaming "scam", "centralized", "not scalable", etc is suffering from. How exactly is this centralized? Did the devs say that the "main" nodes are only going to be run by them? Did the Node team incorporate themselves? Does the dev team hold 80% of the Nodes in existence? Attempting to call Node another Ripple is nothing more than FUD.
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November 30, 2014, 06:27:47 PM |
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What version node.js did you install? I read that you have to use a version with the "linux-arm-pi" in its name. I'm looking on the http://nodejs.org/dist/ site. The latest with the "linux-arm-pi" name is v0.10.28, but the github doc says it uses dependencies v0.10.29+ Or, do you know of a v0.10.29+ for linux-arm-pi located somewhere else? Also, how much node have you been able to forge?
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patmast3r
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November 30, 2014, 06:32:11 PM |
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Due to numerous requests of Node community we have decided to reveal some secrets of network architecture and structure of queries and interactions before the end of the beta.
The main secret of transaction speed is in the structure of Node network which is designed according to the principle of functioning and interconnections of brain neural network.
All nodes in the system are peers similar to brain neurons. Ordinary nodes serve as input neurons, the main nodes play the role of hidden neurons. Blockchain this output neuron.
*image*
Node network includes the main nodes and ordinary nodes.
Main node is a client running on the server via a key (start index.js -key: examplekey), ordinary node are the same clients running without a key. Number of main nodes is mathematically unlimited.
Main node takes over 10,000 connections. If you run the client and first main node already has 10,000 connections than the client connects to the next main node.
Ordinary nodes are connected to the main node and with several other connected nodes through the main node. The main nodes primarily interact with each other.
*image*
For quick transaction the client needs to keep connection with one main node and with several ordinary nodes. There's enough 2-10 connections for fast work. If the transaction is committed by main node and several ordinary nodes it is enough to fix the transaction by the entire network via priority communication of main nodes.
Thus, the client does not need to keep the simultaneous multiparty connection with all other network clients to sync transaction.
I'm glad someone that is able to speak proper english steps up and explains the infrastructure. I really don't mean to offend anyone but it was about time ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) This is completely different from what we were told though. On first glance this doesn't look fully decentralized. I'm not against distributed (as oppsosed to decentralized) networks as I'm also a supporter of the technology behind Ripple but this is just completely different from what has been presented so far (lord knows the whitepaper didn't mention any of this). I guess the language barrier is taking it's toll afterall. Thanks for posting this ! I'd argue that it is less of a case of language barriers, and more of a case of "NEM bias" (AKA "looking out for my own bag itis") that pretty much everyone who comes to this thread screaming "scam", "centralized", "not scalable", etc is suffering from. How exactly is this centralized? Did the devs say that the "main" nodes are only going to be run by them? Did the Node team incorporate themselves? Does the dev team hold 80% of the Nodes in existence? Attempting to call Node another Ripple is nothing more than FUD. Point me to the posting where i stated any of that. thanks. I even said that I support distributed systems. Do you even read peoples posts before attacking them ? I think you are suffering from NODE bias as opposed to others suffering from NEM bias.
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hypersire
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November 30, 2014, 06:50:47 PM |
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Due to numerous requests of Node community we have decided to reveal some secrets of network architecture and structure of queries and interactions before the end of the beta.
The main secret of transaction speed is in the structure of Node network which is designed according to the principle of functioning and interconnections of brain neural network.
All nodes in the system are peers similar to brain neurons. Ordinary nodes serve as input neurons, the main nodes play the role of hidden neurons. Blockchain this output neuron.
*image*
Node network includes the main nodes and ordinary nodes.
Main node is a client running on the server via a key (start index.js -key: examplekey), ordinary node are the same clients running without a key. Number of main nodes is mathematically unlimited.
Main node takes over 10,000 connections. If you run the client and first main node already has 10,000 connections than the client connects to the next main node.
Ordinary nodes are connected to the main node and with several other connected nodes through the main node. The main nodes primarily interact with each other.
*image*
For quick transaction the client needs to keep connection with one main node and with several ordinary nodes. There's enough 2-10 connections for fast work. If the transaction is committed by main node and several ordinary nodes it is enough to fix the transaction by the entire network via priority communication of main nodes.
Thus, the client does not need to keep the simultaneous multiparty connection with all other network clients to sync transaction.
I'm glad someone that is able to speak proper english steps up and explains the infrastructure. I really don't mean to offend anyone but it was about time ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) This is completely different from what we were told though. On first glance this doesn't look fully decentralized. I'm not against distributed (as oppsosed to decentralized) networks as I'm also a supporter of the technology behind Ripple but this is just completely different from what has been presented so far (lord knows the whitepaper didn't mention any of this). I guess the language barrier is taking it's toll afterall. Thanks for posting this ! I'd argue that it is less of a case of language barriers, and more of a case of "NEM bias" (AKA "looking out for my own bag itis") that pretty much everyone who comes to this thread screaming "scam", "centralized", "not scalable", etc is suffering from. How exactly is this centralized? Did the devs say that the "main" nodes are only going to be run by them? Did the Node team incorporate themselves? Does the dev team hold 80% of the Nodes in existence? Attempting to call Node another Ripple is nothing more than FUD. Point me to the posting where i stated any of that. thanks. I even said that I support distributed systems. Do you even read peoples posts before attacking them ? I think you are suffering from NODE bias as opposed to others suffering from NEM bias. Sure thing, here you go: On first glance this doesn't look fully decentralized.
Oh noes, it's centralized! Subtle. I'm not against distributed (as oppsosed to decentralized) networks as I'm also a supporter of the technology behind Ripple
Nice attempt to link Node to Ripple, one of the most centralized, hated cryptos out there. but this is just completely different from what has been presented so far (lord knows the whitepaper didn't mention any of this).
The original whitepaper did not provide details on this aspect, so not sure how things changed exactly. I guess the language barrier is taking it's toll afterall.
And a nice final jab to close. Please don't pretend you wish to provide constructive criticism and help Node succeed, you aren't fooling anyone.
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patmast3r
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November 30, 2014, 06:59:22 PM |
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Sure thing, here you go: On first glance this doesn't look fully decentralized.
Oh noes, it's centralized! Subtle. Centralized and not decentralized are 2 different things. I explicitely said distributed which is exaclty what it is. Or rather what it seems to be according to the graphic. I'm not against distributed (as oppsosed to decentralized) networks as I'm also a supporter of the technology behind Ripple
Nice attempt to link Node to Ripple, one of the most centralized, hated cryptos out there. As I said I support Ripple. And the fact that it's hated is because people are missinformed. The fact that this setup is similar is undeniable. It's not a bad thing. It's just a fact. Just like in ripple there are "main nodes" - ripple calles it "validators" - that are doing the actuall validation. Just like in Ripple anyone can run such a node. but this is just completely different from what has been presented so far (lord knows the whitepaper didn't mention any of this).
The original whitepaper did not provide details on this aspect, so not sure how things changed exactly. I guess the language barrier is taking it's toll afterall.
And a nice final jab to close. Please don't pretend you wish to provide constructive criticism and help Node succeed, you aren't fooling anyone. I guess I can't post here without people putting words in my mouth. Fine. I'll remove this from my watchlist then.
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LemonAndFries
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November 30, 2014, 07:09:55 PM |
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can someone upload nxtlt.db and nxtltTX.db because my wallet keeps getting stuck at 3904.
I've tried everything I can think of and nothing has worked.
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whitecloud
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November 30, 2014, 07:26:22 PM |
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can someone upload nxtlt.db and nxtltTX.db because my wallet keeps getting stuck at 3904.
I've tried everything I can think of and nothing has worked.
maybe firewall block it ?
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whitecloud
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November 30, 2014, 07:27:07 PM |
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Due to numerous requests of Node community we have decided to reveal some secrets of network architecture and structure of queries and interactions before the end of beta. The main secret of transaction speed is in the structure of Node network which is designed according to the principle of functioning and interconnections of brain neural network. All nodes in the system are peers similar to brain neurons. Ordinary nodes serve as input neurons, the main nodes play the role of hidden neurons. Blockchain this output neuron. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs25.postimg.org%2Fkftiqp3db%2FNeural_network_node_final.png&t=665&c=iZgT0Vc5sDmkxg) Node network includes the main nodes and ordinary nodes. Main node is a client running on the server via a key (start index.js -key: examplekey), ordinary node are the same clients running without a key. Number of main nodes is mathematically unlimited. Main node takes over 10,000 connections. If you run the client and first main node already has 10,000 connections than the client connects to the next main node. Ordinary nodes are connected to the main node and to the several other connected nodes through the main node. The main nodes primarily interact with each other. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs25.postimg.org%2F58dj6cbin%2FNode_network_architecture_final_green.png&t=665&c=RHhi06J5zpCMkA) For quick transaction the client needs to keep connection with one main node and with several ordinary nodes. There's enough 2-10 connections for fast work. If the transaction is committed by main node and by several ordinary nodes it is enough to fix the transaction by the entire network via priority communication of main nodes. Thus, the client does not need to keep the simultaneous multiparty connection with all other network clients to sync transaction. Kind Regards to all Nodepeople, Nodelab thanks for explanation!
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November 30, 2014, 07:28:16 PM Last edit: November 30, 2014, 07:41:57 PM by 3x2 |
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@Nodeclub thanks for the explnation and @pat love to read your posts so dont leave this thread ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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hypersire
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November 30, 2014, 07:30:33 PM |
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Sure thing, here you go: On first glance this doesn't look fully decentralized.
Oh noes, it's centralized! Subtle. Centralized and not decentralized are 2 different things. I explicitely said distributed which is exaclty what it is. Or rather what it seems to be according to the graphic. I'm not against distributed (as oppsosed to decentralized) networks as I'm also a supporter of the technology behind Ripple
Nice attempt to link Node to Ripple, one of the most centralized, hated cryptos out there. As I said I support Ripple. And the fact that it's hated is because people are missinformed. The fact that this setup is similar is undeniable. It's not a bad thing. It's just a fact. Just like in ripple there are "main nodes" - ripple calles it "validators" - that are doing the actuall validation. Just like in Ripple anyone can run such a node. but this is just completely different from what has been presented so far (lord knows the whitepaper didn't mention any of this).
The original whitepaper did not provide details on this aspect, so not sure how things changed exactly. I guess the language barrier is taking it's toll afterall.
And a nice final jab to close. Please don't pretend you wish to provide constructive criticism and help Node succeed, you aren't fooling anyone. I guess I can't post here without people putting words in my mouth. Fine. I'll remove this from my watchlist then. Constructive criticism is always welcome here but I think you would be hard pressed to argue that is what you are providing. For example, looking at your post history, I see your last post regarding Node before today was: For this and need a version and a persistent network connection with all clients. The old client will not be able to connect to new clients, and if we disable version checking and network, you will create a new network and a new blockchcain. All clients are interconnected with each other and are on the same network wave. When You make a transaction it instantly got all clients. (it's like FM radio wave, You won't be able to log in to the live broadcast or substitute audio data) and in the Node You will not be able to create a fake block. We also tomorrow I will try to answer more about networking and connecting with clients, many people think the bigger the network, the slower it will be, but it's not. Enough to be connected to the main peers to other peers clients (maximum 2 to 50 connections at a time )
Are you saying there are some peers that are more important than other peers ? To which Silk responded: For this and need a version and a persistent network connection with all clients. The old client will not be able to connect to new clients, and if we disable version checking and network, you will create a new network and a new blockchcain. All clients are interconnected with each other and are on the same network wave. When You make a transaction it instantly got all clients. (it's like FM radio wave, You won't be able to log in to the live broadcast or substitute audio data) and in the Node You will not be able to create a fake block. We also tomorrow I will try to answer more about networking and connecting with clients, many people think the bigger the network, the slower it will be, but it's not. Enough to be connected to the main peers to other peers clients (maximum 2 to 50 connections at a time )
Are you saying there are some peers that are more important than other peers ? Any peers can be important if we will make it in the default client settings Sure, the English isn't the best but I think it is pretty obvious that he is saying ANY peer can be an "important" or "main" Node. So not sure why you would ask the same question again.
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November 30, 2014, 07:36:49 PM |
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pastmast3r: from my personal point of view, you're welcome! and if possibly scare someone on here, the better - I have time to buy node at a lower price! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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LemonAndFries
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November 30, 2014, 07:56:32 PM |
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can someone upload nxtlt.db and nxtltTX.db because my wallet keeps getting stuck at 3904.
I've tried everything I can think of and nothing has worked.
maybe firewall block it ? nope, firewall is letting it through. The client doesn't even attempt to download the blocks when I erase nxtlt.db and nxtltTx.db .
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