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May 05, 2014, 10:17:19 AM
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Feeling a bit useless. Two Newbie-style questions:

1. Where do I go to give feedback on Dark wallet?  I have noticed a couple of things but not sure where to post/tell.

2. Is there any user-friendly info on what stealth addresses, coinjoin and multi-sig do and how to use them within dark wallet? Stealth addresses in particular have me completely baffled and what I've read so far hasn't made me any less baffled ;-(

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May 05, 2014, 10:51:53 AM
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Is there any good overview of what DarkWallet *is*?

I backed it for the wallet and privacy aspect, but what's with the "lobby"? And chat rooms!? It's like an electrum server but you can chat with other users? What's the use case for that?

great work anyway, nice to see you guys delivering

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May 05, 2014, 12:05:53 PM
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Feeling a bit useless. Two Newbie-style questions:

1. Where do I go to give feedback on Dark wallet?  I have noticed a couple of things but not sure where to post/tell.

2. Is there any user-friendly info on what stealth addresses, coinjoin and multi-sig do and how to use them within dark wallet? Stealth addresses in particular have me completely baffled and what I've read so far hasn't made me any less baffled ;-(

Many thanks

I guess the best way is to visit their official website:
http://darkwallet.is/

and write them an email or post in their forum.

Is there any good overview of what DarkWallet *is*?

I backed it for the wallet and privacy aspect, but what's with the "lobby"? And chat rooms!? It's like an electrum server but you can chat with other users? What's the use case for that?

great work anyway, nice to see you guys delivering
The lobby is just a trollbox, like the one on BTCe. You can use it to chat with other darkwallet users.
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May 05, 2014, 12:22:43 PM
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Feeling a bit useless. Two Newbie-style questions:

1. Where do I go to give feedback on Dark wallet?  I have noticed a couple of things but not sure where to post/tell.

2. Is there any user-friendly info on what stealth addresses, coinjoin and multi-sig do and how to use them within dark wallet? Stealth addresses in particular have me completely baffled and what I've read so far hasn't made me any less baffled ;-(

Many thanks



1. https://wiki.unsystem.net/index.php/DarkWallet/HowToHelp#Communicating_with_the_team

2. I'll make videos soon.
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May 06, 2014, 12:07:57 AM
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I think there should be an easy way to get people to trust wallets that get created, because lets just say 100s wallets start getting uploaded and 20% of these are scam wallets this 20% will scare people fro trying ANY other wallet than Multibit, Electrum or Bitcoin QT... maybe the bitcoin dev guys should have a stamp of approval thingo , so basically if someone wants to develop something for BTC it will have to go through them for checking and security and once we see the B TICK TICK symbol or whatever people now know this is safe to use. I think thats a good idea
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May 06, 2014, 10:23:40 AM
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good idea, i'll ask the other wallets about something like this. it should be fair and open though.
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May 06, 2014, 02:24:09 PM
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I think there should be an easy way to get people to trust wallets that get created, because lets just say 100s wallets start getting uploaded and 20% of these are scam wallets this 20% will scare people fro trying ANY other wallet than Multibit, Electrum or Bitcoin QT... maybe the bitcoin dev guys should have a stamp of approval thingo , so basically if someone wants to develop something for BTC it will have to go through them for checking and security and once we see the B TICK TICK symbol or whatever people now know this is safe to use. I think thats a good idea

I don't think anyone would really do that, as it's only giving the opportunity for some new wallet to use the trust of other wallets to potentially set up a long-con scam of their own.

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May 06, 2014, 03:47:27 PM
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Awesome work, thanks dude. My 1st post is for you.

Your program give me faith in bitcoin. It's a big step no doubt, hope you can release it without problem, will be proud to use it instead of blockchain.info .

After i saw your program, i took a look at unsystem, and some of your video. I'am all with you. Deal with it, there is no turning back.

Keep going, there is not a lot of guy pure as you are, i hope you can release Darkwallet and working on Darkmarket... I'm feeling sorry to not be a programmer, and make a project like you do Cheesy So for now i will just donate what i can afford to.

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May 07, 2014, 08:04:41 AM
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thank you. our fund is here: https://wiki.unsystem.net/index.php/DarkWallet/Project_multisig_fund

btw interview with cody,
http://onpoint.wbur.org/2014/05/06/bitcoin-dark-money-dark-wallet

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May 07, 2014, 10:45:02 AM
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one word, centralized.
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May 08, 2014, 01:49:08 AM
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May 08, 2014, 01:58:05 AM
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Hey, I thought you figured out how to embed videos into this forum.  Smiley
Congrats on Dark Wallet, it looks to be a popular project.

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May 08, 2014, 02:04:56 AM
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Like the video. Saw Dark Wallet on the DN the other day, I'm all for it. I support everything that enables/helps anonymity. Will be following this thread to see when all the kinks get worked out.

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May 08, 2014, 04:45:25 AM
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Are they suggesting that centralized development is good?

About the dust example: if the dark wallet team decides to ignore it, the majority will force it one way or the other. If the majority rejects dust, miners who accept them will lose out. That is kind of the strong point of decentralization.

If Bitcoin breaks because there are multiple implementations, then it should do so, the faster the better.
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May 08, 2014, 04:58:55 AM
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Rest assured the Govt will not be happy.
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May 08, 2014, 05:27:33 AM
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I want to clear up some facts which I'm seeing propagated a lot.

Dark Wallet coinjoin goes through a server, but the server cannot see any details of your transaction nor can they steal your coins. All details are encrypted for the counterparty, and all signing happens in the client.

The only weakness here is that a server gets taken down stopping the service in which case you switch to another service. Even if the NSA controlled the server, they wouldn't be able to steal your coins or observe your transaction at all.

Lastly the server is sharing messages with other servers (we are improving this too), so it isn't really centralised. It is federated kind of like how different email providers inter-operate with each other. The decentralised aspect will only improve over time as we develop standards and deploy technology.
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May 08, 2014, 05:40:37 AM
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Congrats, darkwallet brings Bitcoin back to the reason I started using it in the first place. Power to the people.

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May 08, 2014, 12:20:14 PM
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There is all kind of approach to this problem.

Right now it is alpha so it is rather hard to put any kind of mark on it. Until more people are going to use it and there is going to be full version everyone should use it with caution.

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May 08, 2014, 09:41:12 PM
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Seems interesting Ill keep an eye on this project.

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May 08, 2014, 11:05:05 PM
Last edit: May 09, 2014, 06:03:37 AM by jantenner81
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i really like idea and also alpha version of darkwallet.
Great design btw maybe a few adjustments on this side.

Great progess thx unsystem for the efforts

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