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May 12, 2013, 10:49:21 PM
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* a group of people

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May 12, 2013, 11:55:25 PM
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* a group of people

I doubt this ... if you've read through the entire thread of posts by satoshi on this forum there seems very little space for a team of people communicating through one poster .... although he is prolific  Wink

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3;sa=showPosts;start=520

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May 13, 2013, 01:39:57 AM
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Satoshi is certainly here and observing how his baby is developing.
When the world has accepted bitcoin, he might reveal his true identity.

If someone claimed he is Satoshi, would you believe him?

To prove his identity he needs to at least:
-send one bitcoin from his original wallet to a new wallet.
-discuss cryptography with experts so his competency can be proven
-show personal projects, documents and mail conversations that has not been publicized yet


Nah, it's a lot easier than that for him to prove it was him. He would just sign a message with his PGP key and that would confirm it.

GPG sig is not proof.

He's fairly recognizable by his writing style and knowledge.  People of Satoshi's genius only come along a few times a generation.

And he still probably knows more about bitcoin than anyone else.

He's either hiding, or was made an offer he could not refuse.

No.

1. Key signing is the closest there is to unimpeachable proof.  That's what it's for.

2. Writing style and knowledge are no more evidence than any other quasi-scientific metric:  galvanic lie-detectors, for example.  Writing style can be faked.  Easily.  There is software that will check your fakery for you.

3. Satoshi manifestly does not know more about bitcoin than anyone else.  At the moment, the person who does would be Gavin.  Satoshi hasn't touched the code for over two years.  Please...

4. There are any number of explanations for why Satoshi left, and for what he is doing right now.  And why.  'Hiding' and 'made an offer he couldn't refuse' are the stuff of wild conspiracies.  Maybe he has a sense of humor?  Or perhaps he's just waiting to cash out responsibly without damaging the value too badly?

4b. What about this:  what if his hard drive totally crashed and the dog ate his paper backups?  What if he lost every bitcoin he ever mined, and is more fucking embarrassed than any human in all of history has ever been?

I would say with the kind of amazingly controlled manner/character/style Satoshi displayed, and the meticulousness of his design, I doubt he is someone careless enough to have lost all his wallet data if he had wished to make a fortune out of it. Maybe he just didn't care enough about the wealth or he was worried that greed may get hold of him, which impacts his neutrality, so he willfully wiped out all the wallet data.

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May 13, 2013, 01:43:01 AM
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I would say with the kind of amazingly controlled manner/character/style Satoshi displayed, and the meticulousness of his design, I doubt he is someone careless enough to have lost all his wallet data if he had wished to make a fortune out of it. Maybe he just didn't care enough about the wealth or he was worried that greed may get hold of him, which impacts his neutrality, so he willfully wiped out all the wallet data.

Yes.  These are also possible.

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May 13, 2013, 01:55:05 AM
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My current theory is this: Satoshi works for some three-letters government agency or massive orgnaization with extremely deep pocket, the reasons are listed below.


1. Intelligence agencies such as NSA are known to employ some of the world's best cryptographists, and the job requires you to consider every possible threat and make things bullet-proof, the kind of meticulousness we saw in the Bitcoin protocol.

2. Satoshi went to such great length to conceal his identity, because if it's made public, he may lose his job. He should have talked to his superiors about what he was doing, and since his pet project involved nothing classified, and even contains something probably useful to the intelligence work, he got a "go ahead", but on the condition that he kept his identity a secret, for obvious reasons. And needless to say, the revelation of his identity would not put Bitcoin in a good light.

3. Since these government agencies are extremely well-funded, they probably would not care too much about if their employers are always hard at work, so Satoshi got plenty of time to pursue his own ventures.

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May 13, 2013, 05:59:37 AM
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My current theory is this: Satoshi works for some three-letters government agency or massive orgnaization with extremely deep pocket, the reasons are listed below.


1. Intelligence agencies such as NSA are known to employ some of the world's best cryptographists, and the job requires you to consider every possible threat and make things bullet-proof, the kind of meticulousness we saw in the Bitcoin protocol.

2. Satoshi went to such great length to conceal his identity, because if it's made public, he may lose his job. He should have talked to his superiors about what he was doing, and since his pet project involved nothing classified, and even contains something probably useful to the intelligence work, he got a "go ahead", but on the condition that he kept his identity a secret, for obvious reasons. And needless to say, the revelation of his identity would not put Bitcoin in a good light.

3. Since these government agencies are extremely well-funded, they probably would not care too much about if their employers are always hard at work, so Satoshi got plenty of time to pursue his own ventures.

I think he's just a normal guy but with the mind of a genius. He saw bitcoins getting bigger and wanted to distance himself from it and wasn't interested in fame. He didn't want to be the one behind bitcoins, he wanted the community to fill that role which it has.

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May 13, 2013, 06:35:21 AM
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My current theory is this: Satoshi works for some three-letters government agency or massive orgnaization with extremely deep pocket, the reasons are listed below.


1. Intelligence agencies such as NSA are known to employ some of the world's best cryptographists, and the job requires you to consider every possible threat and make things bullet-proof, the kind of meticulousness we saw in the Bitcoin protocol.

2. Satoshi went to such great length to conceal his identity, because if it's made public, he may lose his job. He should have talked to his superiors about what he was doing, and since his pet project involved nothing classified, and even contains something probably useful to the intelligence work, he got a "go ahead", but on the condition that he kept his identity a secret, for obvious reasons. And needless to say, the revelation of his identity would not put Bitcoin in a good light.

3. Since these government agencies are extremely well-funded, they probably would not care too much about if their employers are always hard at work, so Satoshi got plenty of time to pursue his own ventures.

I think he's just a normal guy but with the mind of a genius. He saw bitcoins getting bigger and wanted to distance himself from it and wasn't interested in fame. He didn't want to be the one behind bitcoins, he wanted the community to fill that role which it has.

or rather, he worked under government-funded projects and authority, and his honed skills and expertise through the experience culminated into what Bitcoin is today? maybe he witnessed something that made him realize how badly society needed what he created?

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May 13, 2013, 06:49:15 AM
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There was once a guy who ran for president. His track record was consistent and principled. His stance on every issue revolved around following the Constitution. He felt that the Federal Reserve had too much control over our economy. He had a plan to balance the budget in 2 years. His words were backed up by his actions for over 30 years in office.

That is one story. The other story?

There was a quixotic racist who was nuts who was trying to run for president but was way too old and wore shoes that are unstylish. He was known to hang out with members of the KKK and had the support of the owner of a whore house. He basically hates America and blames Americans for 9/11.



People with big ideas are people. People can be attacked easily.

Satoshi left us with an idea.

I love reading articles by people who are itching to attack Satoshi because they cannot attack the idea. The best they can do is call him an unknown hacker. Or level mistrust in something "we don't even know who created it". They wish they knew.

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May 13, 2013, 06:53:45 AM
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My current theory is this: Satoshi works for some three-letters government agency or massive orgnaization with extremely deep pocket, the reasons are listed below.


1. Intelligence agencies such as NSA are known to employ some of the world's best cryptographists, and the job requires you to consider every possible threat and make things bullet-proof, the kind of meticulousness we saw in the Bitcoin protocol.

2. Satoshi went to such great length to conceal his identity, because if it's made public, he may lose his job. He should have talked to his superiors about what he was doing, and since his pet project involved nothing classified, and even contains something probably useful to the intelligence work, he got a "go ahead", but on the condition that he kept his identity a secret, for obvious reasons. And needless to say, the revelation of his identity would not put Bitcoin in a good light.

3. Since these government agencies are extremely well-funded, they probably would not care too much about if their employers are always hard at work, so Satoshi got plenty of time to pursue his own ventures.

I think he's just a normal guy but with the mind of a genius. He saw bitcoins getting bigger and wanted to distance himself from it and wasn't interested in fame. He didn't want to be the one behind bitcoins, he wanted the community to fill that role which it has.

or rather, he worked under government-funded projects and authority, and his honed skills and expertise through the experience culminated into what Bitcoin is today? maybe he witnessed something that made him realize how badly society needed what he created?

to a point, we know the latter to be true. encoded in the genesis block is: "The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks"
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May 13, 2013, 09:22:55 AM
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there is a little satoshi in all of us

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May 13, 2013, 10:50:44 AM
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Think about the amount of people who would want the person who destroyed their wealth and wrecked a system that has benefited them for a century dead let alone the Federal Reserve and it's easy to see why he remains anonymous. I'm just grateful that he came up with a solution to generations constantly stealing the wealth from their children that didn't involve blood.
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May 13, 2013, 01:25:38 PM
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http://ci.nii.ac.jp/author?q=NAKAMOTO++Satoshi

So I found this, not sure how relevant it is but interesting.

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May 13, 2013, 02:44:53 PM
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could it be?
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May 13, 2013, 03:43:16 PM
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A legend and an inspiration to most... but in fact the Japanese Kim Dot Com, living on a private island purchased with some of the millions of bitcoins he premined. Grin
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May 13, 2013, 03:53:08 PM
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A legend and an inspiration to most... but in fact the Japanese Kim Dot Com, living on a private island purchased with some of the millions of bitcoins he premined. Grin

He didn't premine millions, there was no premine except the genesis block, lolol...
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May 13, 2013, 03:54:31 PM
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DPR had him assassinated when he took over Bitcoin and opened SR.

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May 13, 2013, 04:27:20 PM
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A legend and an inspiration to most... but in fact the Japanese Kim Dot Com, living on a private island purchased with some of the millions of bitcoins he premined. Grin

He didn't premine millions, there was no premine except the genesis block, lolol...
All I am saying is he should have done a proper announcement so we could all be ready to mine as soon as it was launched. Grin
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May 13, 2013, 04:27:58 PM
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could it be?

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May 13, 2013, 04:38:30 PM
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http://ci.nii.ac.jp/author?q=NAKAMOTO++Satoshi

So I found this, not sure how relevant it is but interesting.

May I ask how you came across this site?
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May 13, 2013, 04:58:32 PM
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http://ci.nii.ac.jp/author?q=NAKAMOTO++Satoshi

So I found this, not sure how relevant it is but interesting.

May I ask how you came across this site?

And still it stops in 2010. I'm tellin you he's dead. Fish food. Pushin up daisys.

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