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February 03, 2015, 09:49:07 PM
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I really doubt Rand will make it out of the primaries. He's not going to end up fundraising enough money to even stand a chance. The game is rigged.

2016 isn't the only primary.  There will be another one 4, and then 8, years later.  Rand is still a relatively young man!

The game is rigged, but the GOP operates on an 'it's my turn' hierarchy and is *really* sick of losing the White House to the Dims.

President Hillary (BARF!) is their worst nightmare, and they might be ready to abandon the War On Drugs and other 'social conservatism' BS in a come-to-Jesus moment of existential terror.

Doesn't change any of the underlying factors. In 2020, 2024 (or whenever), Rand will still need big money to even get the nomination. There is indication that Rand wants contributions from the Koch brothers, which is understandable if you expect to win anything. So even if you like him, he will likely be beholden to billionaire interests. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/rand-was-a-dud-at-the-koch-brothers-conference-114853.html

The biggest problem with politics right now is money and special interests. Nothing is going to get fixed unless that does. And you know what? The Republican supreme court justices, and the GOP in general, are responsible for all that money being funneled in.

As it is right now, I prefer 1) Elizabeth Warren 2) Bernie Sanders 3) Rand Paul
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February 03, 2015, 09:59:36 PM
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Flying coach with Rand Paul

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Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) cast himself as a regular Joe during an interview with The Hill conducted at 23,000 feet — in two coach seats on an American Airlines flight from Washington, D.C., to Dallas.

Flying coach is nothing new for Paul, the Tea Party favorite said. He’s logged tens of thousands of miles in coach in recent months as he’s flown around the country touting himself as a possible White House contender in 2016.

Trying to prepare for a presidential campaign from a cramped aisle seat has certain logistical hurdles. Senior aides had to climb over Paul as they took turns in the neighboring seat to brief him.

A flight attendant scolded one of his staffers for standing in the aisle while monitoring the senator’s interview.

Fellow travelers sitting in the same row or behind him viewed the commotion with a mix of bemused curiosity and irritation.

Paul and other Republicans eyeing the White House are working hard to make clear that they are not Mitt Romney, the wealthy businessman who was easily depicted as out of touch in his 2012 campaign.

“I walk to Wal-Mart and shop when I’m at Kentucky and home in Bowling Green. We go to Target, Wal-Mart, T.J. Maxx like other people. We look for bargains. We drive our own cars. We really don’t put on any special airs,” Paul said.

“When you’re part of your community,” he said, “you kind of know what your community is upset about.”...

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February 04, 2015, 03:48:27 AM
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I really doubt Rand will make it out of the primaries. He's not going to end up fundraising enough money to even stand a chance. The game is rigged.

2016 isn't the only primary.  There will be another one 4, and then 8, years later.  Rand is still a relatively young man!

The game is rigged, but the GOP operates on an 'it's my turn' hierarchy and is *really* sick of losing the White House to the Dims.

President Hillary (BARF!) is their worst nightmare, and they might be ready to abandon the War On Drugs and other 'social conservatism' BS in a come-to-Jesus moment of existential terror.

Doesn't change any of the underlying factors. In 2020, 2024 (or whenever), Rand will still need big money to even get the nomination. There is indication that Rand wants contributions from the Koch brothers, which is understandable if you expect to win anything. So even if you like him, he will likely be beholden to billionaire interests. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/rand-was-a-dud-at-the-koch-brothers-conference-114853.html

The biggest problem with politics right now is money and special interests. Nothing is going to get fixed unless that does. And you know what? The Republican supreme court justices, and the GOP in general, are responsible for all that money being funneled in.

As it is right now, I prefer 1) Elizabeth Warren 2) Bernie Sanders 3) Rand Paul

You think I'm unaware of Citizens United?  Hah, as if.  I've followed the SCOTUS since high school like jocks watch the NFL and NBA.

The court made the right decision.  You need to get over the butthurt and jealousy about some people having more money, and thus more ability to fund their causes, than others.

Not all billionaires have the same interests.  Charles Koch and Peter Theil are the good guys, and use their resources to fight to keep the US safe from ManBearPig and other schemes that increase taxes and decrease freedom.  Mayor Bloomberg and Tom Steyer are the bad guys who use their money to take away our RKBA and manufacture scary climate apocalypse hobgoblins.

Liz Warren is just another Ivy League lawyer owned by Wall Street, albeit good looking and very well marketed.  She's the loyal (IE kept, token) opposition, not a radical.  The same PTB own Politco, which is why that article natters about Rand's blue jeans instead of substantive issues.

Romney likes the Pauls, and I suspect the Koch Bros might as well (update: suspicion confirmed by Politico).  If Rand wins the GOP primary (or is a strong 2nd) the Old Guard will fall in line to beat Hillary.  And don't forget Silicon Valley/Hills/Prairie/Gulch cyber-libertarians adore his dad.  That includes more than a few billionaires and their 1% buddies.

Thanks to Citizens United, Peter Thiel and Charles Koch can each throw $2 billion dollars into anti-Hillary issues.  That's a Good Thing.

Bernie Sanders is great for the socialists in Vermont but will never be President.  He's even older than Grandma Clinton FFS!  Get a grip.

You progs need to build out the Green Party and its younger generation of leaders like Matt Gonzales.  Stop dreaming about electing ancient elders in their 70s.  It aint' gonna happen.

The only reason the GOP respects its libertarian wing's fearsome leverage is because of the Libertarian Party's demonstrated ability to cost them close elections.

Until the Green Party represents a similarly credible threat, the neo-liberals in charge of the Dems will continue to ignore their Progressive constituents.

Don't fret or FUD about Rand's fundraising ability.  Besides the inevitable traditional moneybombs, he has Harris Media onboard to amplify their impact.

And since you probably didn't know this, look into what the name Nate Morris represents:

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http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine/rand-paul-s-new-confidant-20140618

Morris had carved out a reputation as a man with a talent for shaking loose campaign cash. Back in 2004, he was, at 23, by all accounts the country's youngest bundler for George W. Bush, raising at least $50,000 and becoming a "Bush Maverick." His list of contacts had only grown in the years since. "People in politics know who raises money," Morris says. "That's not a secret." In short, Morris was just the kind of moneyman Paul needed if he was going to pursue his presidential ambitions.

He's a mainstream Republican with no major ties to Paul's father but plenty of links to the GOP establishment. His moneyed connections span from coast to coast, and his mainstream pedigree even includes his wife, the granddaughter of a legendary Republican fundraiser.

When Paul first ran for the Senate four years ago, against a candidate favored by the GOP donor class, he "was ridiculed and lambasted and ignored as vigorously as he possibly could have been" by the establishment, says David Adams, who was Paul's 2010 primary campaign manager. Today, Paul's relationship with the GOP's power brokers has changed dramatically—and Morris is both a symptom and a cause of that transformation. Understanding who Nate Morris is—what he believes and how he operates—tells you a lot about the new Rand Paul.


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February 04, 2015, 09:37:03 PM
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Rand Paul being praised at Age of Autism...

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Attention everyone.

Rand Paul believes in parental choice.

"The Hepatitis B vaccine is now given to newborns. We sometimes give 5 or 6 vaccines at one time. I chose to have mine delayed. I don't want the government telling me I have to give me child Hepatitis B vaccine which is transmitted by sexually transmitted disease and/or blood transfusion. . . . I had mine staggered over several months. I've heard of many cases of walking, talking normal children who wound up with profound mental disorders

after vaccines. ...I think they're a good thing, but I think the parents should have some input. The state doesn't own your children. The parents own the children and it is an issue of freedom."

This is one of their daily blog posts...http://www.ageofautism.com/

These folks seem like single issue voters mostly but the issue of parental choice is a crucial one these days since the left increasingly wants more say over the parents' leeway in deciding what's best for their kids. I can only imagine how problematic it is to raise a child that has issues of some sort.
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February 04, 2015, 09:40:06 PM
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http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/2016-presidential-swing-state-polls/release-detail?ReleaseID=2131
Latest Polls - Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio
The standings are pretty wide open in these states
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With Romney
REGISTERED REPUBLICANS
...................FL.....OH.....PA
Bush............30%...9%....10%
Carson..........7.......7.......8
Christie ........2........4.....10
Cruz.............3........5......4
Huckabee.....10.......5......9
Jindal............3.......1......2
Kasich...........-......11......2
Paul.............3......8.......3
Perry............1.......-.......1
Romney.........9......15.....12
Rubio...........13......3.......3
Santorum......3.......-.......6
Walker..........8......10......5

Without Romney
REGISTERED REPUBLICANS
..................FL......OH.....PA
Bush...........32%....10%...12%
Carson.........8........8.......8
Christie........3........6......11
Cruz............4........6.......6
Huckabee....11.......7.......10
Jindal..........3........1........2
Kasich.........-........14......3
Paul...........3........10.....3
Perry..........1..........1......1
Rubio..........15........4......4
Santorum.....3........1.......8
Walker.........9........11......6

12. Is your opinion of Rand Paul favorable, unfavorable or haven't you heard enough about him?
REGISTERED REPUBLICANS
....................FL......OH.....PA
Favorable.......53%....51%....45%
Unfavorable.....14......13......16
Don't know......32.......35.....38
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February 04, 2015, 09:45:49 PM
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Bill O'Reilly slams Rand Paul for 'naive' foreign policy, measles stance

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Washington (CNN)Add Fox News host Bill O'Reilly to the list of those critical of Sen. Rand Paul.

O'Reilly joined the chorus of voices slamming the Republican from Kentucky on Tuesday for his comments that vaccines should not be mandatory and took the chance to take another swipe at the libertarian-leaning senator's foreign policy, calling him "perhaps the most controversial candidate in the race."

"That's not unusual for me disagreeing with Mr. Paul," O'Reilly said.

The conservative host also called Paul's stance on terrorism and Iran "naïve," reprising previous comments that Paul's foreign policy views would hurt him in an eventual GOP primary.

Paul opposes the GOP-led effort to impose additional sanctions on Iran in an attempt to pressure the Iranians to give up their nuclear program.

"Sen. Paul loses traction because he has no plan to defeat the jihad and he comes across, maybe he's not that way, it comes across as kind of let them do what they want to do as long as they're not in the U.S.A.," O'Reilly said Tuesday.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/04/politics/bill-oreilly-slams-rand-paul/

This guy has the most watched news show in the US and it's pretty much exclusively viewed by 'conservative' older folks. This host has hated the Pauls for many years as he's a very big war hawk and police stater that fools the viewers into supporting more statist positions as alleged conservative republicans.
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February 04, 2015, 09:48:11 PM
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http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/2016-presidential-swing-state-polls/release-detail?ReleaseID=2131
Latest Polls - Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio
The standings are pretty wide open in these states
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With Romney
REGISTERED REPUBLICANS
...................FL.....OH.....PA
Bush............30%...9%....10%
Carson..........7.......7.......8
Christie ........2........4.....10
Cruz.............3........5......4
Huckabee.....10.......5......9
Jindal............3.......1......2
Kasich...........-......11......2
Paul.............3......8.......3
Perry............1.......-.......1
Romney.........9......15.....12
Rubio...........13......3.......3
Santorum......3.......-.......6
Walker..........8......10......5

Without Romney
REGISTERED REPUBLICANS
..................FL......OH.....PA
Bush...........32%....10%...12%
Carson.........8........8.......8
Christie........3........6......11
Cruz............4........6.......6
Huckabee....11.......7.......10
Jindal..........3........1........2
Kasich.........-........14......3
Paul...........3........10.....3
Perry..........1..........1......1
Rubio..........15........4......4
Santorum.....3........1.......8
Walker.........9........11......6

12. Is your opinion of Rand Paul favorable, unfavorable or haven't you heard enough about him?
REGISTERED REPUBLICANS
....................FL......OH.....PA
Favorable.......53%....51%....45%
Unfavorable.....14......13......16
Don't know......32.......35.....38


The favorable numbers are great, but the standings need to improve.

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February 04, 2015, 09:50:50 PM
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Daily Beast Editor Apologizes For Tweeting 'F*** You' At Rand Paul
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Justin Miller, a senior editor at the Daily Beast, apologized on Tuesday for tweeting "fuck you" to Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY).

"Today I am getting my booster vaccine," Paul tweeted Tuesday afternoon. "Wonder how the liberal media will misreport this."

"Fuck you," Miller shot back.

A spokesperson for Paul told Politico that the remark was "completely unacceptable for a journalist to be tweeting these type of comments."

Miller later apologized in an email to the site.

“I replied from my personal account to what I felt was spin after Senator Paul said factually incorrect things about vaccines," he said. "It would’ve been better to respond with facts than an obscenity, and I deleted the tweet so it wouldn’t reflect on the Beast. I’m sorry for the insult.”

Miller may have deleted the tweet, but he has a history of using that particular construction liberally on Twitter. In October, he retweeted a story about protestors in Ferguson, Mo. burning a flag, adding "fuck them."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/justin-miller-daily-beast-f-rand-paul
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February 05, 2015, 07:44:52 PM
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How Rand Paul trolls his rivals
Behind the Republican’s effort to be the first true Twitter candidate for the White House.

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Rand Paul has the most aggressive Twitter feed of the 2016 field, an account that emits a steady stream of snark, rapid response and gimmicks. A recent sampling: He’s suggested Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton are conspiring, charged that Marco Rubio wants to “build a moat” around Cuba, and joked that Bush and Mitt Romney have exchanged friendship and charm bracelets.
Paul doesn’t write the tweets himself: Roughly a half-dozen staffers have access to the account, and they post without getting sign-off from the the senator, according to Doug Stafford, Paul’s senior political adviser. But he is deeply involved with his Twitter feed, driven by the sense that he wants to be a different kind of Republican candidate who reaches out to new constituencies — and he sees social media as key part of that engagement.

It’s all part of a broader strategy to run a tech-savvy, “crowd-sourced” presidential campaign, where online communication is the first messaging priority and edginess is essential to cut through the clutter.

Sen. Rand Paul R-KY., is seen leaving the Republican weekly policy luncheon at the Capital in Washington, Tuesday, Feb. 3, 2015. Paul, claimed Monday that vaccines can cause 'profound mental disorders.' Paul, in an often contentious interview with CNBC, argued that parents should have a choice whether to vaccinate their children. 'I've heard of many tragic cases of walking talking normal children who wound up with profound mental disorders after vaccines,' Paul said.

Paul frequently fires off emails to his staff with concepts for tweets and social media pushes, and sometimes offers specifics.
“He and this organization will continue to be engaging, continue to be creative, continue to use digital almost as a first place of communication, because that’s the world we live in,” said Vincent Harris, the chief digital strategist of RANDPAC, Paul’s political arm. The senator “himself believes that content online needs to be unique, needs to be delivered not in long, paragraph form, but in pithy, visual memes and images and games. And if you look at the type of content the senator’s organization has been pushing out over the last two months, you see that’s reflected.”

More...http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/rand-paul-2016-rivals-114925.html#ixzz3QsTh2psz
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February 05, 2015, 07:53:53 PM
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Fed fires back at Rand Paul

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The Federal Reserve is lashing out at Sen. Rand Paul’s plan to give Congress more oversight over the central bank, a proposal that could gain traction in the new Republican-led Congress.

The Kentucky Republican reintroduced his “Audit the Fed” legislation last month with 30 co-sponsors, including other potential 2016 GOP hopefuls, Sens. Ted Cruz (Texas) and Marco Rubio (Fla.).

The proposal — once championed by his father, former Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) —would subject the central bank to an audit by the Government Accountability Office (GAO).
Regional bank presidents from around the country are decrying the plan, which they argue could damage the economy.

“Who in their right mind would ask the Congress of the United States — who can’t cobble together a fiscal policy — to assume control of monetary policy?” Richard Fisher, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, said during an interview with The Hill.

Fed Chairwoman Janet Yellen has already vowed to fight the legislation, and President Obama would likely veto it.

Still, Fed watchers note that Paul has become emboldened by the new Republican majority in Congress. And he possesses an ever louder national microphone, as he moves closer to a 2016 presidential run.

Together, those factors could elevate the issue in the coming months, a prospect that has spurred strong words from bank officials.

Philadelphia Fed President Charles Plosser told The Hill that financial auditing “already exists” for the Fed, and warned that Paul’s plan would empower Congress “to audit and question monetary policy decisions in real time.”

“This runs the risk of monetary policy decisions being based on short-term political considerations instead of the longer-term health of the economy,” Plosser said.

Paul pushed back against the criticism, saying Fed officials “will say and do anything to keep their business hidden from the American people.”

For Paul, the legislation allows him to burnish his Republican-libertarian credentials.

And he appears to want to make it part of his early presidential campaigning. On Friday, Paul will hold an Audit the Fed rally in Des Moines, Iowa, as part of a weekend trip to the early presidential caucus state.

The issue could give Paul an opening to tap into the public’s mistrust of the government, more than six years after the federal bailouts that followed the 2008 economic crisis.

“This secretive government-run bureaucracy promotes policies that have impacted the lives of all Americans,” Paul said. “Citizens have the right to know why the Fed’s policies have resulted in a stagnant economy and record numbers of people dropping out of the workforce.”

More...http://thehill.com/policy/finance/231822-fed-fires-back
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February 05, 2015, 08:04:39 PM
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Mitch McConnell, Rand Paul push legalizing hemp growth
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Forget legalizing pot: Two of the most powerful Republicans in the Senate believe there’s a much stronger chance to legalize growing hemp in the U.S., opening up an entirely new market for crops, health food, oil, shirts, towels and even dog toys.

Kentucky’s Mitch McConnell, Rand Paul and Rep. Thomas Massie are pushing legislation in both chambers of Congress that would remove the less-potent member of the cannabis family from the federal list of controlled substances, allowing its return to America’s farmland after more than 40 years.

It’s a states’ rights and economic growth issue, the Republican lawmakers argue. Legalizing hemp would create jobs.

“People used to downplay the number of jobs industrial hemp might create and say, ‘Well it’s a few thousand jobs and a couple million in commerce,’” Massie said. But all told, legalizing the crop has the potential to create 10 times as many jobs “as the Keystone XL pipeline will create 10 years from now.”

Hemp legalization legislation has been considered in Congress since 2005, when then-Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) pushed the issue. But the current bills have champions in positions of power, including the Senate majority leader and a potential White House contender.

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February 05, 2015, 08:21:07 PM
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Fed fires back at Rand Paul

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The Federal Reserve is lashing out at Sen. Rand Paul’s plan to give Congress more oversight over the central bank, a proposal that could gain traction in the new Republican-led Congress.

The Kentucky Republican reintroduced his “Audit the Fed” legislation last month with 30 co-sponsors, including other potential 2016 GOP hopefuls, Sens. Ted Cruz (Texas) and Marco Rubio (Fla.).

The proposal — once championed by his father, former Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) —would subject the central bank to an audit by the Government Accountability Office (GAO).
Regional bank presidents from around the country are decrying the plan, which they argue could damage the economy.

“Who in their right mind would ask the Congress of the United States — who can’t cobble together a fiscal policy — to assume control of monetary policy?” Richard Fisher, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, said during an interview with The Hill.

Fed Chairwoman Janet Yellen has already vowed to fight the legislation, and President Obama would likely veto it.

Still, Fed watchers note that Paul has become emboldened by the new Republican majority in Congress. And he possesses an ever louder national microphone, as he moves closer to a 2016 presidential run.

Together, those factors could elevate the issue in the coming months, a prospect that has spurred strong words from bank officials.

Philadelphia Fed President Charles Plosser told The Hill that financial auditing “already exists” for the Fed, and warned that Paul’s plan would empower Congress “to audit and question monetary policy decisions in real time.”

“This runs the risk of monetary policy decisions being based on short-term political considerations instead of the longer-term health of the economy,” Plosser said.

Paul pushed back against the criticism, saying Fed officials “will say and do anything to keep their business hidden from the American people.”

For Paul, the legislation allows him to burnish his Republican-libertarian credentials.

And he appears to want to make it part of his early presidential campaigning. On Friday, Paul will hold an Audit the Fed rally in Des Moines, Iowa, as part of a weekend trip to the early presidential caucus state.

The issue could give Paul an opening to tap into the public’s mistrust of the government, more than six years after the federal bailouts that followed the 2008 economic crisis.

“This secretive government-run bureaucracy promotes policies that have impacted the lives of all Americans,” Paul said. “Citizens have the right to know why the Fed’s policies have resulted in a stagnant economy and record numbers of people dropping out of the workforce.”

More...http://thehill.com/policy/finance/231822-fed-fires-back

A simple, long overdue audit == "assuming control of monetary policy"   .....  ??
Perhaps, we should have more faith and trust in our current leaders.  Roll Eyes


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February 05, 2015, 08:26:26 PM
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Rand Paul Comes Out Swinging Against Loretta Lynch’s Nomination for Attorney General

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Sen. Rand Paul will oppose—very publicly—the nomination of U.S. Attorney Loretta Lynch to replace Eric Holder as Attorney General of the United States.

The Kentucky Republican is unveiling his opposition to Lynch on Greta Van Susteren’s On The Record program on Fox News.

Earlier Wednesday, in his office in the Russell Senate Office Building on Capitol Hill, Breitbart News watched as the senator’s legal and press team briefed him final time before the interview. Sergio Gor, Paul’s communications director, his press secretary Eleanor May and attorney Brian Darling were all present.

Paul asked the team about Sen. Ted Cruz’s (R-TX) question during Lynch’s Senate Judiciary Committee confirmation hearing about whether she’d oppose using a drone to kill an American citizen on American soil.

When Paul heard about her non-answer—she wouldn’t commit that the federal government does not have such authority—he was incredulous. Furthermore, Paul was appalled that Lynch came out in favor of President Barack Obama’s executive amnesty and the use of asset forfeiture—where the federal government seizes people’s property sometimes with flimsy reasoning, something even the Obama administration has offered slight opposition to—and then told his office staff he’s going to oppose her and aim to derail her nomination chances. “Oh, she’s going down,” Paul said to the room.

“I think ideally you want an attorney general who, if there were a problem, would be independent and objective looking at the executive branch,” Paul said in a previous interview with Breitbart News this past weekend aboard a flight to Dallas, Texas, where he had several speaking engagements and publicly welcomed Texas GOP chairman Steve Munisteri to his likely 2016 presidential campaign.

That’s kind of what you want an attorney general to do. I’m concerned that a big part of her fame as a federal prosecutor was through civil forfeiture. She was asked specifically about this by Sen. Lee, and her response was ‘oh, everything is fine, it’s done with a court order.’ She seems to not quite understand that innocent people are having their stuff taken by government–their cars, their money, their hotels, their stuff is being confiscated by government even if they’re never charged or even if they’re never convicted. She didn’t seem to grasp that point and this is a week after parts of the administration said they were not going to enforce some of the civil forfeiture..."

More...http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/04/oh-shes-going-down-rand-paul-comes-out-swinging-against-loretta-lynchs-nomination/
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February 06, 2015, 06:53:33 PM
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Rand Paul being praised at Age of Autism...

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Attention everyone.

Rand Paul believes in parental choice.

"The Hepatitis B vaccine is now given to newborns. We sometimes give 5 or 6 vaccines at one time. I chose to have mine delayed. I don't want the government telling me I have to give me child Hepatitis B vaccine which is transmitted by sexually transmitted disease and/or blood transfusion. . . . I had mine staggered over several months. I've heard of many cases of walking, talking normal children who wound up with profound mental disorders

after vaccines. ...I think they're a good thing, but I think the parents should have some input. The state doesn't own your children. The parents own the children and it is an issue of freedom."

This is one of their daily blog posts...http://www.ageofautism.com/

These folks seem like single issue voters mostly but the issue of parental choice is a crucial one these days since the left increasingly wants more say over the parents' leeway in deciding what's best for their kids. I can only imagine how problematic it is to raise a child that has issues of some sort.

Paul needs to stick to the line about parental choice and end there. Once he starts in on the anecdotal evidence as a counter to scientific and medical consensus, he absolutely loses me. Keep it about the principle of personal freedom, anything else is a losing argument.

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I'm pretty annoyed with Rand Paul right now. He's right that vaccinations should be a personal choice, but joining in with the anti-vaxxers claims that vaccines are unsafe?

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February 06, 2015, 08:52:06 PM
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I'm pretty annoyed with Rand Paul right now. He's right that vaccinations should be a personal choice, but joining in with the anti-vaxxers claims that vaccines are unsafe?

I loved Rand Paul, but he is so far off base on this issue. A person's individual liberty goes so far. So far as it does not impeded, in a negative way on others that are just trying to live their lives. These anti-vaxxers are taking away that decision from other, responsible parents. If you (a general 'you') can justify potentially harming my baby because of some nonsense "science" about vaccines causing health issues, the I have no problem justifying beating you (once again, this is a genera 'you') until there is nothing left to recognize.
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These anti-vaxxers are taking away that decision from other, responsible parents.
Anti-vaxxers have all interest in "you" being vaccinated, you provide real "guinea pig" Cheesy, so please don't be silly. If they don't want to be forced to do something that will not affect you in anyways, how could you be threaten? You are a troll... because this poster just understand it:

Paul needs to stick to the line about parental choice and end there. Once he starts in on the anecdotal evidence as a counter to scientific and medical consensus, he absolutely loses me. Keep it about the principle of personal freedom, anything else is a losing argument.

For example to create the world gov (and destroy the united states of America with it's damn freedom of speech and those used to it that transmit this unstoppable disease of free thoughts expressed) or what ever other illusion, the illusionists need to take over the mind of young children who will then become adult, of course the parents if not already "educated" will enter in conflict with the project (naturally). As the perpetrators did unspeakable sins to reach the position of being able to influence such issues as education paths or in this case vaccination issues (simply put taking domination of the body of the child, and thus denying and supplanting the role of the parents (and their will), or seen in certain subject of education), the conflict will be though(t). The Dream of A  Secular New World Order in AMERICA was exactly this point. that what ever your belief A1, you will be able to live them fully, in the pursuit of your own happiness. Vaccination, like abortion are to be taken in the context of A2. which lead to understand if carrying is allowed, non vaccination too. try to force a Founder of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA to an injection... even the King of England did capitulate.

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February 07, 2015, 12:08:37 AM
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Rand Paul seeks to smooth rumblings of Iowa trouble

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Amid rumblings that old grudges are resurfacing in Iowa, Rand Paul says he just wants to play nice with all the GOP factions here.

"Our goal is to bring people together," Paul, a U.S. senator from Kentucky and likely presidential candidate, told The Des Moines Register in a telephone interview Thursday. "That's been my goal as I've traveled around the country. I've supported candidates from all sorts of segments of the party."

It's no secret that there was bad blood in the past between the so-called liberty movement (activists loyal to Paul's father, 2012 presidential candidate Ron Paul) and other factions in Iowa, especially the GOP establishment.

Now that a new Iowa Poll shows Rand Paul's growing strength here, there seems to be an orchestrated effort to rekindle some of that animosity toward the liberty movement — a faction that the younger Paul needs to keep close if he wants to do well in the Iowa caucuses a year from now.

More...http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2015/02/05/rand-paul-smoothes-trouble-rumblings/22948007/
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Black Caucus slams Rand Paul for opposing AG nominee Lynch

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The Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) issued a sharp condemnation of Sen. Rand Paul’s (R-Ky.) opposition to Attorney General nominee Loretta Lynch on Thursday.

Paul said he opposed confirming Lynch because she supports civil forfeitures, a controversial law enforcement tactic, but the chairman of the CBC dismissed those concerns.

“Senator Paul is using the issue of civil forfeitures to block a well-qualified federal prosecutor from heading the Department of Justice,” said CBC Chairman G.K. Butterfield (D-N.C.) in a statement. “Senator Paul also has the audacity to suggest that Loretta Lynch should have more concern for people living in poverty.

“The Congressional Black Caucus recognizes Senator Paul’s unfounded argument as nothing but an excuse to keep an African American legal scholar from holding this high position, and we directly call on him and Republicans to allow the nomination of Loretta Lynch to proceed to an up or down vote in the Senate,” he added.

On Wednesday, Paul said that he was opposing Lynch because she had said during her confirmation hearing that asset forfeiture laws are a “wonderful tool.”

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February 07, 2015, 12:31:36 AM
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Michael Savage (the #2 radio personality in the US) endorses Rand Paul (and Ted Cruz) for Prez.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PG8u_LIcn8#t=20

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