GOP - Rand Paul's Presidential Highlight Reel w/ his Libertarian Twist

[bryant.coleman]

^^^ Hmm... so Rubio is heading for an open confrontation with Rand Paul. His aims and intentions are clear. He is hoping for a VP ticket with Bush. Another RINO who needs to be put down. 

[beetcoin]

bush + rubio is a good pairing.. they'd have a good shot at florida's 29 electoral votes. take ohio's 20 and you have a pretty good path to winning it all.

[Chef Ramsay]

bush + rubio is a good pairing.. they'd have a good shot at florida's 29 electoral votes. take ohio's 20 and you have a pretty good path to winning it all.

You put those two at the top of the ticket and it's finally game over for the GOP. You'd have conservatives and libertarians either staying home in droves or voting 3rd party. So, establishment republican donors that truly don't like democrats better mind that before they settle on a couple of losers.

[beetcoin]

bush + rubio is a good pairing.. they'd have a good shot at florida's 29 electoral votes. take ohio's 20 and you have a pretty good path to winning it all.

You put those two at the top of the ticket and it's finally game over for the GOP. You'd have conservatives and libertarians either staying home in droves or voting 3rd party. So, establishment republican donors that truly don't like democrats better mind that before they settle on a couple of losers.

or you can vote for rand paul who is against what the far right wants.. people won't vote either. if eric cantor is "not conservative enough," what do you think rand paul will be? the problem is that if you're too moderate, the GOP base won't be down with it. if you're too conservative, the general populous won't be down with it.

rand paul's foreign policy calls for the US to stop meddling with other countries.. well, republicans practically own the military industrial complex, so i'm sure he'd meet a lot of opposition.

[Chef Ramsay]

bush + rubio is a good pairing.. they'd have a good shot at florida's 29 electoral votes. take ohio's 20 and you have a pretty good path to winning it all.

You put those two at the top of the ticket and it's finally game over for the GOP. You'd have conservatives and libertarians either staying home in droves or voting 3rd party. So, establishment republican donors that truly don't like democrats better mind that before they settle on a couple of losers.

or you can vote for rand paul who is against what the far right wants.. people won't vote either. if eric cantor is "not conservative enough," what do you think rand paul will be? the problem is that if you're too moderate, the GOP base won't be down with it. if you're too conservative, the general populous won't be down with it.

rand paul's foreign policy calls for the US to stop meddling with other countries.. well, republicans practically own the military industrial complex, so i'm sure he'd meet a lot of opposition.

Actually Rand offers everyone a little of what they want for the most part. To the moneyed establishment/business republicans, he offers exactly what I mentioned in the prior sentence which would allow a complete repeal of Obamacare and pro-growth policies. He offers the 74% of Americans that oppose Iraq intervention and others that have generally grown tired of intervention a lot. The populist sentiment against the NSA strings many generations but mostly younger generations that are focused almost exclusively w/ entertainment devices. He offers the far right what they want in terms of depriving planned parenthood of money to fund abortions, a sound understanding of the 2nd amendment and a return to true American exceptionalism via freer markets. His economic freedom zones would benefit everyone as they expand but initially many inner city folks that would once again have an impending amount of job opportunities coming their way and a revival of their downtown areas, not to mention restoration of non-violent felon voting rights and a dismantling of the asset forfeiture divisions that clean people out for anything that can be tied into drugs. In full, the only people who have nothing to gain from his policies are the surveillance state people, a certain amount of the MIC and generally the most statist people out there.

[beetcoin]

bush + rubio is a good pairing.. they'd have a good shot at florida's 29 electoral votes. take ohio's 20 and you have a pretty good path to winning it all.

You put those two at the top of the ticket and it's finally game over for the GOP. You'd have conservatives and libertarians either staying home in droves or voting 3rd party. So, establishment republican donors that truly don't like democrats better mind that before they settle on a couple of losers.

or you can vote for rand paul who is against what the far right wants.. people won't vote either. if eric cantor is "not conservative enough," what do you think rand paul will be? the problem is that if you're too moderate, the GOP base won't be down with it. if you're too conservative, the general populous won't be down with it.

rand paul's foreign policy calls for the US to stop meddling with other countries.. well, republicans practically own the military industrial complex, so i'm sure he'd meet a lot of opposition.

Actually Rand offers everyone a little of what they want for the most part. To the moneyed establishment/business republicans, he offers exactly what I mentioned in the prior sentence which would allow a complete repeal of Obamacare and pro-growth policies. He offers the 74% of Americans that oppose Iraq intervention and others that have generally grown tired of intervention a lot. The populist sentiment against the NSA strings many generations but mostly younger generations that are focused almost exclusively w/ entertainment devices. He offers the far right what they want in terms of depriving planned parenthood of money to fund abortions, a sound understanding of the 2nd amendment and a return to true American exceptionalism via freer markets. His economic freedom zones would benefit everyone as they expand but initially many inner city folks that would once again have an impending amount of job opportunities coming their way and a revival of their downtown areas, not to mention restoration of non-violent felon voting rights and a dismantling of the asset forfeiture divisions that clean people out for anything that can be tied into drugs. In full, the only people who have nothing to gain from his policies are the surveillance state people, a certain amount of the MIC and generally the most statist people out there.

appealing to everyone is a pipedream. cantor got booted because he was pro immigration reform - he wasn't conservative enough to the far right-wing. rand paul is probably even worse to them. good luck with that. your party will implode on itself.

[Chef Ramsay]

bush + rubio is a good pairing.. they'd have a good shot at florida's 29 electoral votes. take ohio's 20 and you have a pretty good path to winning it all.

You put those two at the top of the ticket and it's finally game over for the GOP. You'd have conservatives and libertarians either staying home in droves or voting 3rd party. So, establishment republican donors that truly don't like democrats better mind that before they settle on a couple of losers.

or you can vote for rand paul who is against what the far right wants.. people won't vote either. if eric cantor is "not conservative enough," what do you think rand paul will be? the problem is that if you're too moderate, the GOP base won't be down with it. if you're too conservative, the general populous won't be down with it.

rand paul's foreign policy calls for the US to stop meddling with other countries.. well, republicans practically own the military industrial complex, so i'm sure he'd meet a lot of opposition.

Actually Rand offers everyone a little of what they want for the most part. To the moneyed establishment/business republicans, he offers exactly what I mentioned in the prior sentence which would allow a complete repeal of Obamacare and pro-growth policies. He offers the 74% of Americans that oppose Iraq intervention and others that have generally grown tired of intervention a lot. The populist sentiment against the NSA strings many generations but mostly younger generations that are focused almost exclusively w/ entertainment devices. He offers the far right what they want in terms of depriving planned parenthood of money to fund abortions, a sound understanding of the 2nd amendment and a return to true American exceptionalism via freer markets. His economic freedom zones would benefit everyone as they expand but initially many inner city folks that would once again have an impending amount of job opportunities coming their way and a revival of their downtown areas, not to mention restoration of non-violent felon voting rights and a dismantling of the asset forfeiture divisions that clean people out for anything that can be tied into drugs. In full, the only people who have nothing to gain from his policies are the surveillance state people, a certain amount of the MIC and generally the most statist people out there.

appealing to everyone is a pipedream. cantor got booted because he was pro immigration reform - he wasn't conservative enough to the far right-wing. rand paul is probably even worse to them. good luck with that. your party will implode on itself.

Cantor got booted because he was actively pro-amnesty and not for securing the border first. I'm for immigration reform but not the way it's being pushed by the chamber of commerce republicans which by default ends up favoring the democrats. Also, the guy was actively disenfranchising grassroots party members in a way that stood out more so than what the Ron Paulers dealt w/ in recent times during the last primary season. I posted a link to the disenfranchisement timeline in the Cantor thread. The implosion of the GOP has come because the Bush's and Cheney's of the party have drove it into the ground and haven't really featured anything resembling conservativism which is the base of the party. The gun owners and fiscal hawks sit home when the nominee is a chamber of commerce republican. When the republican isn't that different than the democrat, we see this happen. If anything the anti-establishment forces have been growing in the party which is way different than during the Bush years. Rand's whole mission over the last few years has been to grow the party into something more diverse and he'll keep doing that which will make the GOP the go-to party for the coming years.

[Bit_Happy]

bush + rubio is a good pairing.. they'd have a good shot at florida's 29 electoral votes. take ohio's 20 and you have a pretty good path to winning it all.

You put those two at the top of the ticket and it's finally game over for the GOP. You'd have conservatives and libertarians either staying home in droves or voting 3rd party. So, establishment republican donors that truly don't like democrats better mind that before they settle on a couple of losers.

or you can vote for rand paul who is against what the far right wants.. people won't vote either. if eric cantor is "not conservative enough," what do you think rand paul will be? the problem is that if you're too moderate, the GOP base won't be down with it. if you're too conservative, the general populous won't be down with it.

rand paul's foreign policy calls for the US to stop meddling with other countries.. well, republicans practically own the military industrial complex, so i'm sure he'd meet a lot of opposition.

Rand will meet a lot of opposition, but at least he is a serious candidate (if he runs), and that fact alone is exciting.

[bryant.coleman]

bush + rubio is a good pairing.. they'd have a good shot at florida's 29 electoral votes. take ohio's 20 and you have a pretty good path to winning it all.

You put those two at the top of the ticket and it's finally game over for the GOP. You'd have conservatives and libertarians either staying home in droves or voting 3rd party. So, establishment republican donors that truly don't like democrats better mind that before they settle on a couple of losers.

Agreed. Bush + Rubio has no chances of winning any of the swing states, including Florida. On the other hand, they will lose a number of red states as well. An easy win for Hillary in 2016. 

[tins]

bush + rubio is a good pairing.. they'd have a good shot at florida's 29 electoral votes. take ohio's 20 and you have a pretty good path to winning it all.

You put those two at the top of the ticket and it's finally game over for the GOP. You'd have conservatives and libertarians either staying home in droves or voting 3rd party. So, establishment republican donors that truly don't like democrats better mind that before they settle on a couple of losers.

Agreed. Bush + Rubio has no chances of winning any of the swing states, including Florida. On the other hand, they will lose a number of red states as well. An easy win for Hillary in 2016. 

How do they not take Florida? I'd think they win in a landslide.

[bryant.coleman]

How do they not take Florida? I'd think they win in a landslide.

GOP is going downhill in Florida. Their main support group (Cubans) is getting marginalized there, along with the non-Hispanic whites. Even Rubio won't be able to attract much support from the non-white groups.

[tins]

How do they not take Florida? I'd think they win in a landslide.

GOP is going downhill in Florida. Their main support group (Cubans) is getting marginalized there, along with the non-Hispanic whites. Even Rubio won't be able to attract much support from the non-white groups.

Nationwide, you may be correct, but residents of Florida love the both of them (overall, obviously not each individual resident). If not for term limits, Jeb would still be Governor of Florida. Rubio has support across all demographics down there.
In a national election, if it was a ticket of Rubio/Bush or Bush/Rubio, I do not see any scenario that they do not take Florida in a landslide.

[Chef Ramsay]

How do they not take Florida? I'd think they win in a landslide.

GOP is going downhill in Florida. Their main support group (Cubans) is getting marginalized there, along with the non-Hispanic whites. Even Rubio won't be able to attract much support from the non-white groups.

Nationwide, you may be correct, but residents of Florida love the both of them (overall, obviously not each individual resident). If not for term limits, Jeb would still be Governor of Florida. Rubio has support across all demographics down there.
In a national election, if it was a ticket of Rubio/Bush or Bush/Rubio, I do not see any scenario that they do not take Florida in a landslide.

The key numbers to keep in mind are the negative ratings that said candidates have w/i their own party. Large %s of republicans don't want another Bush and a similar group think Rubio is a fraud which he is. Rubio is so bent on carving himself out as the up and coming McCain but that part of the party has been fading in an avalanche via the grassroots.

[Chef Ramsay]

Paul, Carson Are Now Hillary's Closest GOP Challengers

Hillary Clinton earns 45% to 50% of the vote against six leading Republicans in potential 2016 presidential matchups, running best against Texans Rick Perry and Ted Cruz and poorest against Rand Paul and Dr. Ben Carson. New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, once the GOP front-runner, now makes the weakest showing.

New Rasmussen Reports national telephone surveying of Likely U.S. Voters finds that Clinton leads Cruz, a U.S. senator and Tea Party stalwart, 50% to 37%. She holds a similar 50% to 36% lead over Perry, the Lone Star State governor who is expected to make a second run for the GOP nomination in 2016. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Paul, a Kentucky senator and another Tea Party favorite, and newcomer Carson, the retired neurosurgeon who’s a growing critic of the Obama administration, run just seven points behind Clinton. She bests Paul by a 46% to 39% margin and Carson 45% to 38%. Christie, on the other hand, now trails Clinton by 14 - 47% to 33%.

Among Likely Republican Voters, Paul is the top vote-getter against Clinton with 79% support, followed by Cruz at 75% and Carson with 74%. Seventy-one percent (71%) of GOP voters favor Perry in a matchup with Clinton, while Rubio earns 68% support and Christie 66% among their fellow Republicans.

Among Likely Democratic Voters, Clinton earns 82% to 90% support against the six Republicans, running strongest against Cruz and Christie.

Voters not affiliated with either major political party are closely divided in all six matchups, with Clinton leading by two to six points against Rubio, Christie, Cruz and Perry. Paul and Carson both have a four-point edge over Clinton among these voters.

Fresh out today
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/paul_carson_are_now_hillary_s_closest_gop_challengers
And, since non affiliated voters is the biggest block and also the one that decides every Prez race, things are looking good so far. Just keep doing what he's been doing.

[Chef Ramsay]

Rand Paul's recent comments are resonating with blacks, young voters

BY MERLENE DAVIS
June 23, 2014

Just when I'm about to push Republican Sen. Rand Paul into a round hole, he mutates into a triangle.

Over the weekend, the Tea Party's favorite son and Libertarian announced he would introduce a bill in Congress to restore the voting rights of nonviolent ex-felons. We all figured he would. He had voiced his support of that measure earlier this year.

That was when he was round.

Then, during that same weekend, Paul challenged former Vice President Dick Cheney's assertion that the mess in Iraq is President Barack Obama's fault. Paul has criticized Cheney's involvement in that war before, but not in defense of a Democratic president.

That was when Paul became a triangle.

Who is that man beneath the curly hair whose face is ever-present on TV? Is he a Tea Party champion, an advocate of individualism, or a man courting the voters who carried Obama into the White House?

...

http://www.kentucky.com/2014/06/23/3305923/merlene-davis-rand-pauls-recent.html
Bonus

A recent poll found that 29 percent of black people surveyed would vote for Paul. That's up 16 percent since his 2010 victory over Jack Conway for the senate seat.

Extrapolate that nationwide as more tune in and tell me that a republican that can pull those numbers can't win.

[Bit_Happy]

Rand Paul's recent comments are resonating with blacks, young voters

BY MERLENE DAVIS
June 23, 2014

Just when I'm about to push Republican Sen. Rand Paul into a round hole, he mutates into a triangle.

Over the weekend, the Tea Party's favorite son and Libertarian announced he would introduce a bill in Congress to restore the voting rights of nonviolent ex-felons. We all figured he would. He had voiced his support of that measure earlier this year.

That was when he was round.

Then, during that same weekend, Paul challenged former Vice President Dick Cheney's assertion that the mess in Iraq is President Barack Obama's fault. Paul has criticized Cheney's involvement in that war before, but not in defense of a Democratic president.

That was when Paul became a triangle.

Who is that man beneath the curly hair whose face is ever-present on TV? Is he a Tea Party champion, an advocate of individualism, or a man courting the voters who carried Obama into the White House?

...

http://www.kentucky.com/2014/06/23/3305923/merlene-davis-rand-pauls-recent.html
Bonus

A recent poll found that 29 percent of black people surveyed would vote for Paul. That's up 16 percent since his 2010 victory over Jack Conway for the senate seat.

Extrapolate that nationwide as more tune in and tell me that a republican that can pull those numbers can't win.

We will need some good old-fashioned luck, even with a great candidate.
Hillary being to sick/old to run would be a good start, since she will be hard to beat in a general election.

[Chef Ramsay]

MSNBC: Is Rand Paul a new voting rights advocate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q5o2T-jE3g
Surprisingly, a fair segment on Rand from MSLSD. And I'm sure most of the lefties will agree but say he's only right twice a day or some idiotic cliche.

[Chef Ramsay]

GOP strategist: Labeling Rand Paul "isolationist" isn't going to work anymore 7 min clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-H6mWuW_3s
The host is an admitted socialist hack but it's interesting to see the GOP 'strategist' make his comments. Instead of using the isolationist term, I've begun to see others refer to Rand as a simpleton to see if that works.

[Cicero2.0]

Rand Paul's recent comments are resonating with blacks, young voters

BY MERLENE DAVIS
June 23, 2014

Just when I'm about to push Republican Sen. Rand Paul into a round hole, he mutates into a triangle.

Over the weekend, the Tea Party's favorite son and Libertarian announced he would introduce a bill in Congress to restore the voting rights of nonviolent ex-felons. We all figured he would. He had voiced his support of that measure earlier this year.

That was when he was round.

Then, during that same weekend, Paul challenged former Vice President Dick Cheney's assertion that the mess in Iraq is President Barack Obama's fault. Paul has criticized Cheney's involvement in that war before, but not in defense of a Democratic president.

That was when Paul became a triangle.

Who is that man beneath the curly hair whose face is ever-present on TV? Is he a Tea Party champion, an advocate of individualism, or a man courting the voters who carried Obama into the White House?

...

http://www.kentucky.com/2014/06/23/3305923/merlene-davis-rand-pauls-recent.html
Bonus

A recent poll found that 29 percent of black people surveyed would vote for Paul. That's up 16 percent since his 2010 victory over Jack Conway for the senate seat.

Extrapolate that nationwide as more tune in and tell me that a republican that can pull those numbers can't win.

We will need some good old-fashioned luck, even with a great candidate.
Hillary being to sick/old to run would be a good start, since she will be hard to beat in a general election.

Rumor has it that she has a heart valve issue that could be a factor. Not sure how true it is.

The thing that concerns me whether or not Paul can get through the primaries. The republican establishment is hard to overcome.

[iopq]

I don't understand what anyone is trying to accomplish by voting.

Same poop, different asshole.