Ethnic cleansing in Ukraine.

[247crypto]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2eCSM5z4bo

[bryant.coleman]

I guess you most have a more reliable source about that surprising new version of the facts you wrote about than the one I just quoted above, Human Rights Watch.

Surprising new version of facts. Now let's talk about the census figures which were conducted under the supervision of the NATO.

According to the latest census, Kosovo is home to some 1,616,869 Albanians and some 25,532 Serbs. Twenty years ago, it was 1,596,072 and 194,190 respectively.

As we can see, the number of the Albanians increased by 1.3%, while that of the Serbs declined by 87%. Still you are having doubts about my version?

[247crypto]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yjshy2Qva0

[247crypto]

Neo nazi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlsDw0_7mBo

[DubFX]

Unfortunately, it's real just like air in your room or calcium in your bones. There are hundreds of witnesses and dozens of proofs, but ukrainian officials simply don't care.

I'm following it for some time but i thought that that mass murder in that building was something more accidental not so good planed...

[Nemo1024]

Unfortunately, it's real just like air in your room or calcium in your bones. There are hundreds of witnesses and dozens of proofs, but ukrainian officials simply don't care.

I'm following it for some time but i thought that that mass murder in that building was something more accidental not so good planed...

To understand the dynamics of the Odessa massacre you should watch the videos referenced here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=606721.msg6701218#msg6701218

The whole thing was well-coordinated. Also, there is a recording of one of the organisers reporting the day before the massacre to a Kiev-representative Parubij that everything is ready and that the local police is informed on what to do.

[bryant.coleman]

When Muslims burn people alive, it’s called terrorism. When Ukrainians do it, it’s called “Russia’s fault”:

http://themadjewess.com/2014/05/06/odessa-when-muslims-burn-people-alive-its-called-terrorism-when-ukrainians-do-it-its-called-russias-fault/

[sana8410]

This is a brutal mass murder ..........sad we don't learn nothing form history
http://ersieesist.livejournal.com/813.html?page=3

Did read thought this whole article...is it for real or just conspiracy?

Yes, is real and is happening now,in 2014,under our nose.

[Balthazar]

Their finish is came closer... Renat Akhmetov's call against Donetsk Republic has been failed today. I suppose that next steps are:

1. removal of his puppets from the power;
2. deportation.

[bryant.coleman]

Their finish is came closer... Renat Akhmetov's call against Donetsk Republic has been failed today. I suppose that next steps are:

1. removal of his puppets from the power;
2. deportation.

It will be interesting to see the reaction from Putin as well. Akhmetov is having business interests in Russia, as well as in the EU. If he sides with the EU, then he will incur loses in Russia.

[247crypto]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8HjGOWTL3I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBlgk2-ZM4o

http://rusvesna.su/news/1400607313

[Nemo1024]

http://rusvesna.su/news/1400607313

Shelling of civilian homes in Slavjansk. People are left without homes or dead. An unreported humanitarian disaster happening yet again.

Some think this a scorched earth policy to exterminate people from the city of Slavjansk so as to start prospecting for shale gas on this territory.

[247crypto]

http://lifenews.ru/news/133591

[TaunSew]

There's no ethnic cleansing in Ukraine - Stalin (a Russophile) already did 99.9% of it back in the late 1940s and 1950s.  


Stalin relocated the Tatars to Central Asia - only a small number returned
Stalin relocated all the Poles (200,000+) in Ukraine to Poland, in Operation Vistula.  
Stalin rounded up any Germans on Ukrainian soil and sent them to Central Asia
Stalin scared the Jews so bad that most fled for America and Israel.


It was ironically Stalin, despite Ukrainians who hate him, who otherwise made Ukraine a relatively homogenous nation (with Ukrainian and Russian language) from an ethnic point of view.  

Russia itself isn't homogenous either - it's technically less homogenous than Ukraine.  If Slavic is the race then Russia is very heterogeneous from all the Finnic people, the Asians / Tatars in Siberia and then the Caucasians in Caucasia.

 It was Khrushchev who had to complicate things by transferring Crimea over to Ukrainian SSR, as Crimea was populated by Russians who descended from Russian Russians who didn't have anything to do with Ukrainian people or culture.  

Khruschev could had avoided a lot of problems had he transferred Kuban (instead of Crimea) to Ukraine.  Kuban was already full of Ukrainians (Kuban Cossacks who descend from Zaporozhe Cossacks from the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, although they are Russophile and speak Russian).

 At least that way, Russia could have had help in the 1990s against the Chechens and all the Georgian crap would be Ukraine's problem.  

[bryant.coleman]

Stalin relocated the Tatars to Central Asia - only a small number returned

When Stalin deported the Tatars from Crimea to Uzbekistan, the peninsula was a part of the Russian Soviet Socialist Republic. And he deported a total of 230,000 Tatars. Now Crimea is home to more than 300,000 Tatars. So it is factually incorrect to say that only a small number returned. Almost all of them returned, unlike the Poles and the Germans.

[bryant.coleman]

Well this is true.  I was thinking more in the grand schemes, considering postwar population growth in the world it could had been a million Tatars.

A million of them? No way. Take the population of ethnic Ukrainians for example. In 1939, they numbered some 28 million and right now, they number less than 40 million. The Crimean Tatars numbered 230,000 in 1939. Now they number 300,000 in Ukraine, plus some 100,000 in other countries. The rate of growth seems to be similar to that of the Russians and Ukrainians.

[Nemo1024]

There's no ethnic cleansing in Ukraine - Stalin (a Russophile) already did 99.9% of it back in the late 1940s and 1950s.  

As a Russian, whose family suffered from Stalin's repressions, I take an offence when someone calls Stalin/Dzhugashvili for a Russophile. You can call him equally hateful of all nations, his own Georgian including. The number of ethnic Russians that Stalin deported/relocated to the Baltics, Kazahstan, Tatarstan, as well as internally within RSFSR counts in millions.

[bryant.coleman]

There's no ethnic cleansing in Ukraine - Stalin (a Russophile) already did 99.9% of it back in the late 1940s and 1950s.  

As a Russian, whose family suffered from Stalin's repressions, I take an offence when someone calls Stalin/Dzhugashvili for a Russophile. You can call him equally hateful of all nations, his own Georgian including. The number of ethnic Russians that Stalin deported/relocated to the Baltics, Kazahstan, Tatarstan, as well as internally within RSFSR counts in millions.

Have to agree. Out of some 20 million or so people who died in the repressions of Stalin, close to 15 million were Russians. That is a staggering 75% of the victims, much higher than the share of ethnic Russians in the Soviet population (around 58%).

[antonioserrano72]

So aside of the pressure from Russia now there's also a major "civil war' going on there.

[Nemo1024]

So aside of the pressure from Russia now there's also a major "civil war' going on there.

Don't know what you mean by "pressure from Russia", but yes, there is a civil war there. Or what does one call Ukrainian artillery shelling a Ukrainian city or killing of Ukrainian citizens by Ukrainian army and Ukrainian extremist groups?