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June 20, 2015, 06:14:51 AM
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I really think the folks arguing here would get more out of it if they would just stop and read the wikipedia article on martingale betting strategy.

are you have another strategy besides martingale ?

it doesn't matter if you use other strategies if you won't stop betting then most likely its going to fail

I agree we must stop if we profit

You must stop to gamble if you dont want to lose money, besides how do you know when to stop? If you are betting 1 satoshi are you going to stop at +1 satoshi profit? And if you make a goal how can you know you wont bust before you reach it?

who the hell would want a 1 satoshi profit? Observe Sensus Communis

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June 20, 2015, 06:15:23 AM
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I really think the folks arguing here would get more out of it if they would just stop and read the wikipedia article on martingale betting strategy.
Wikipedia will only tell you the opinion of an expert and here we are talking about the opinions by experienced gamster's.And they don't know a shit about changing seeds!
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June 20, 2015, 06:20:29 AM
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I really think the folks arguing here would get more out of it if they would just stop and read the wikipedia article on martingale betting strategy.
Wikipedia will only tell you the opinion of an expert and here we are talking about the opinions by experienced gamster's.And they don't know a shit about changing seeds!


changing seeds won't help also..

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June 20, 2015, 07:56:07 AM
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I really think the folks arguing here would get more out of it if they would just stop and read the wikipedia article on martingale betting strategy.

are you have another strategy besides martingale ?

it doesn't matter if you use other strategies if you won't stop betting then most likely its going to fail

I agree we must stop if we profit

You must stop to gamble if you dont want to lose money, besides how do you know when to stop? If you are betting 1 satoshi are you going to stop at +1 satoshi profit? And if you make a goal how can you know you wont bust before you reach it?

who the hell would want a 1 satoshi profit? Observe Sensus Communis

The more profit you want the more risk besides if you really want the ''strategy'' of stoping when on profit you would have to really stop like stop forever and never play again, if not you are not doing anything by stopping when on profit because you will eventually lose more than profit so whats the point? Wasting time?
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June 20, 2015, 08:11:27 AM
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I really think the folks arguing here would get more out of it if they would just stop and read the wikipedia article on martingale betting strategy.

are you have another strategy besides martingale ?

it doesn't matter if you use other strategies if you won't stop betting then most likely its going to fail

I agree we must stop if we profit

You must stop to gamble if you dont want to lose money, besides how do you know when to stop? If you are betting 1 satoshi are you going to stop at +1 satoshi profit? And if you make a goal how can you know you wont bust before you reach it?

Set a goal with this method. You can set amount of what you can't afford to lose, dont be greedy, dont bet 1 satohsi to get 1 million satoshi and

need to be patient and some of luck. With this I think you will get your goal on scheduele
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June 20, 2015, 08:16:03 AM
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Has anyone tried Anti-Martingale ? I see it might not give you a huge loss at the end and you can be in the game for a longer time. The chance of winning at the end is better as its trend specific.
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June 20, 2015, 08:50:30 AM
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Has anyone tried Anti-Martingale ? I see it might not give you a huge loss at the end and you can be in the game for a longer time. The chance of winning at the end is better as its trend specific.

anti amrtingale ? like what ?

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June 20, 2015, 12:06:19 PM
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Has anyone tried Anti-Martingale ? I see it might not give you a huge loss at the end and you can be in the game for a longer time. The chance of winning at the end is better as its trend specific.

anti amrtingale ? like what ?

I think, what he is referring to is the reverse martingale.. double the bet if it is a win..

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June 20, 2015, 12:09:43 PM
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Has anyone tried Anti-Martingale ? I see it might not give you a huge loss at the end and you can be in the game for a longer time. The chance of winning at the end is better as its trend specific.

Never heard this strategy before..but it sounds good when you say that the winning chance is better. Could you please explain more details about this strategy?


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June 20, 2015, 12:11:54 PM
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Has anyone tried Anti-Martingale ? I see it might not give you a huge loss at the end and you can be in the game for a longer time. The chance of winning at the end is better as its trend specific.

Never heard this strategy before..but it sounds good when you say that the winning chance is better. Could you please explain more details about this strategy?

For martingale, you will double your bet when you lose. For anti-martingale, you will double your bet when you win.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martingale_%28betting_system%29#Anti-martingale

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June 20, 2015, 12:36:40 PM
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I really think the folks arguing here would get more out of it if they would just stop and read the wikipedia article on martingale betting strategy.
Wikipedia will only tell you the opinion of an expert and here we are talking about the opinions by experienced gamster's.And they don't know a shit about changing seeds!


changing seeds won't help also..
According to my experience at PrimeDice,changing seeds does help.I used to change it after every 20~30 bets.It minimized the lose!
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June 20, 2015, 12:45:32 PM
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I really think the folks arguing here would get more out of it if they would just stop and read the wikipedia article on martingale betting strategy.
Wikipedia will only tell you the opinion of an expert and here we are talking about the opinions by experienced gamster's.And they don't know a shit about changing seeds!


changing seeds won't help also..
According to my experience at PrimeDice,changing seeds does help.I used to change it after every 20~30 bets.It minimized the lose!

Changing seeds doesn't change your chance to win. You could be getting better or worse after changing your seed, and it is just luck.

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June 20, 2015, 12:48:43 PM
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changing seeds does help.I used to change it after every 20~30 bets.It minimized the lose!

Such delusion is pretty common around here. You should realize and aware that changing seed isnt changing the outcome for you to win or to lose. It only changes the outcome number for the roll . This outcome is also totally random which means that it depends on what you choose , either Low or High

i.e Server seed + your seed hash = Number 57.67

If you change your seed hash it will resulted in a random number instead of 57.67 , lets say that the number generated will be 78.93 which means that this bet is a lost as well if you choose Low instead of High

 
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June 20, 2015, 02:51:49 PM
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changing seeds does help.I used to change it after every 20~30 bets.It minimized the lose!

Such delusion is pretty common around here. You should realize and aware that changing seed isnt changing the outcome for you to win or to lose. It only changes the outcome number for the roll . This outcome is also totally random which means that it depends on what you choose , either Low or High

i.e Server seed + your seed hash = Number 57.67

If you change your seed hash it will resulted in a random number instead of 57.67 , lets say that the number generated will be 78.93 which means that this bet is a lost as well if you choose Low instead of High

let them believe in what they want.. it was been explained many times but i guess they are not present in that time

Dice sites work on people ignorance and their addiction, do you honestly think anyone plays dice for fun and not for money? No, no one does that and why would anyone play dice for money if they know the chances are not in their favour? Because they either dont or refuse to believe it or even worse they have an addiction problem.

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June 20, 2015, 04:09:39 PM
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changing seeds does help.I used to change it after every 20~30 bets.It minimized the lose!

Such delusion is pretty common around here. You should realize and aware that changing seed isnt changing the outcome for you to win or to lose. It only changes the outcome number for the roll . This outcome is also totally random which means that it depends on what you choose , either Low or High

i.e Server seed + your seed hash = Number 57.67

If you change your seed hash it will resulted in a random number instead of 57.67 , lets say that the number generated will be 78.93 which means that this bet is a lost as well if you choose Low instead of High

let them believe in what they want.. it was been explained many times but i guess they are not present in that time

These people that are under such delusion should get themselves educated. Basically almost everything about provably fair mechanism has been explained thoroughly, just that it is scatter among this board in many threads. Will be great if dooglus or Nico could make an EDU thread about all of the things related to provably fair and get it stickied.

With this people wont be keep on getting such delusion that having some "magic seed" will help them to win in gambling site. Also we might see less thread complaining that X dice sites are not fair because they have a crazy lost streak



Meanwhile if those reading this want to know more about this "magic seed" stuff and provably fair mechanism, this site will be the best to learn about it http://dicesites.com/provably-fair

 
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June 20, 2015, 05:30:37 PM
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Martingale works but depends how greedy you are because if you keep playing 1 millions rolls you will/may loose at the end, so play wise and it works Smiley
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June 23, 2015, 01:25:32 PM
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well.. martingale works always but it depends on your balance and of course on gambling site Smiley if you have good bankroll management it and play trusted Provably fair gambling site it will work  Wink  but its always to invent some good your own strategy (depending on Site you play) Smiley good luck with it mate Smiley
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June 23, 2015, 01:30:13 PM
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well.. martingale works always but it depends on your balance and of course on gambling site Smiley if you have good bankroll management it and play trusted Provably fair gambling site it will work  Wink  but its always to invent some good your own strategy (depending on Site you play) Smiley good luck with it mate Smiley

You are wrong. Martingale not always works, yes it works sometimes but when the long losing streak comes it will bust your bankroll for a few satoshi return by your basebet
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June 23, 2015, 01:45:34 PM
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well.. martingale works always but it depends on your balance and of course on gambling site Smiley if you have good bankroll management it and play trusted Provably fair gambling site it will work  Wink  but its always to invent some good your own strategy (depending on Site you play) Smiley good luck with it mate Smiley

You are wrong. Martingale not always works, yes it works sometimes but when the long losing streak comes it will bust your bankroll for a few satoshi return by your basebet

i said martingale works not your bankroll is not enough Smiley finally when keep doubling your bet i get profit and if u dont have that amount its not martingale system problem mate Smiley its your bankroll prob or gambling site issues Smiley  system is simple after 100, 1000, 10000, or 100000 or even 10000000  try u will get back your full amount of bet + the amount of first bet Smiley
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June 23, 2015, 01:54:04 PM
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well.. martingale works always but it depends on your balance and of course on gambling site Smiley if you have good bankroll management it and play trusted Provably fair gambling site it will work  Wink  but its always to invent some good your own strategy (depending on Site you play) Smiley good luck with it mate Smiley

You are wrong. Martingale not always works, yes it works sometimes but when the long losing streak comes it will bust your bankroll for a few satoshi return by your basebet

i said martingale works not your bankroll is not enough Smiley finally when keep doubling your bet i get profit and if u dont have that amount its not martingale system problem mate Smiley its your bankroll prob or gambling site issues Smiley  system is simple after 100, 1000, 10000, or 100000 or even 10000000  try u will get back your full amount of bet + the amount of first bet Smiley

So you mean martingale that can cover a really long streak? If you do the computation for lets say 1 satoshi base bet you will need 5.37btc to cover atleast 30 loses in a row. And thinking you have 5btc+ as your bankroll, would you think to start with 1 satoshi base bet just to be safe in less 30 loses in a row?

30 loses in a row is not imposible
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