kreskko
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 21, 2016, 07:20:36 PM |
|
Recently I became interested in options. Off we go ... Well, of course the Black-Scholes. As without them then. In general formula itself purely mathematically it does not seem difficult, but the meaning of it escapes me completely.
|
|
|
|
20kevin20
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1134
Merit: 1598
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 21, 2016, 07:28:00 PM |
|
Martingale works. That's a fact. But it has problems. Also, you need to deposit an averagely good amount of money to have any opportunity of earnings. Just make sure to follow the system and you'll make money ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Or you can go and play by your own rules and make money through that too. No need for these useless strategies. They can't even be called strategies.. they're just methods through which someone was lucky enough to get rich. That doesn't mean we will too.
|
|
|
|
chachaa
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 21, 2016, 07:40:34 PM |
|
Recently I became interested in options. Off we go ... Well, of course the Black-Scholes. As without them then. In general formula itself purely mathematically it does not seem difficult, but the meaning of it escapes me completely.
If you yourself were not able to understand, it is unlikely to succeed. Although the case in luck and the desire to get a result.
|
|
|
|
poordeveloper
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 21, 2016, 08:19:16 PM |
|
Martingale works. That's a fact. But it has problems. Also, you need to deposit an averagely good amount of money to have any opportunity of earnings. Just make sure to follow the system and you'll make money ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Or you can go and play by your own rules and make money through that too. No need for these useless strategies. They can't even be called strategies.. they're just methods through which someone was lucky enough to get rich. That doesn't mean we will too. Well, it has problems, as I said. For example, the casino has a bet limit (max bet) so you can't always double your bets. Also, even if you can double your bets, you need to have enough money in your account to be able to do so.
|
|
|
|
Daffadile
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 22, 2016, 11:10:16 PM |
|
That's why I keep telling everybody to just do Martingale but in reverse. Basically bet like 100 Sats, when you win, you bet with 200 Sats, then 400 Sats, etc, etc. You will lose a little in the beginning but if you have enough guts and you can keep doubling your winners until you reach 10 wins in a row you will make good BTC with little risk.
It is all gamblers fallacy all of this. All these strategies and methods end in the same/similiar way. What happens if you run out of btc before you hit 10x wins in a row. What if you hit 10x wins and you still don't break even.
|
|
|
|
klf
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1000
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 23, 2016, 02:16:08 AM |
|
Martingale works. That's a fact. But it has problems. Also, you need to deposit an averagely good amount of money to have any opportunity of earnings. Just make sure to follow the system and you'll make money ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I think even you are putting high amount or good amount to use your strategy martingale will not work unless if you are lucky you can make a profit with that way. many people are already tested this method and they are failed but few of them are success but the next day they are losing it again.. So its not working for me if you are not lucky. It is correct, whatever big bankroll we have at the end casino house will win, if you don't withdraw your money at a right time. If that is true that if we can win money with bigger bankroll then by now most of these casinos might have closed. In dice game only luck will bring us money not any method.
|
|
|
|
ajun96
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 23, 2016, 01:38:06 PM |
|
martiangle in gamble is high risk high return you can get much profit but you can lost all your money iam play martiangle strategy in dice gamble site
Yes right martiangle strategy is a very risky strategy for the gambling.I think it works more often than not.Much surely therre comes a time where this strategy doesnt work and then your all the money is gone Because you keep doubling you loss and with few consecutive losses gambler can loose his/her amount to i do not recommend matiangle strategy at all. Where martingale works very well in the betting, this strategy has made many people lose money in large amounts and you can not win that way no matter how luck you will got a moment you will feel the loss when a bet with a very large number and it's your last money. Its because martingale strat has long time ago busted by gambling site mod and maybe its working before but for now provably not its owners dont want to lose on their site so im very sure that they will surely kill the existing strategy that can ended up for them to lose to their gambler. So better believe on pure luck boys because house will always prevail and has higher chance to win rathe than us. You are right, martingale method is already busted a long time ago because this strategy is such a threat on any gambling sites out there. Therefore they must kill it or busted it as soon as it can because for sure they would lose their profits if that leaked strategy would not be stopped. yeah this strategy relatively metdode old and old. but I think this method will still work if you use it with the appropriate period and of course luck is good. I had profited more than 10-fold using this method. but because I was so greedy that busted that i get
|
|
|
|
hua_hui
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1016
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 23, 2016, 01:51:46 PM |
|
martiangle in gamble is high risk high return you can get much profit but you can lost all your money iam play martiangle strategy in dice gamble site
Yes right martiangle strategy is a very risky strategy for the gambling.I think it works more often than not.Much surely therre comes a time where this strategy doesnt work and then your all the money is gone Because you keep doubling you loss and with few consecutive losses gambler can loose his/her amount to i do not recommend matiangle strategy at all. Where martingale works very well in the betting, this strategy has made many people lose money in large amounts and you can not win that way no matter how luck you will got a moment you will feel the loss when a bet with a very large number and it's your last money. Its because martingale strat has long time ago busted by gambling site mod and maybe its working before but for now provably not its owners dont want to lose on their site so im very sure that they will surely kill the existing strategy that can ended up for them to lose to their gambler. So better believe on pure luck boys because house will always prevail and has higher chance to win rathe than us. You are right, martingale method is already busted a long time ago because this strategy is such a threat on any gambling sites out there. Therefore they must kill it or busted it as soon as it can because for sure they would lose their profits if that leaked strategy would not be stopped. yeah this strategy relatively metdode old and old. but I think this method will still work if you use it with the appropriate period and of course luck is good. I had profited more than 10-fold using this method. but because I was so greedy that busted that i get Martingale does not work. The probability already have calculated all these. Martingale manage to reduce the house edge but it is still not sufficient to let you have an advantage over the house. However, that also does not mean that everyone will definitely lose. If you look in the short terms, you can get profit out of it, but in the long run you will end up losing. That is also why the casinos are earning.
|
|
|
|
bapparabi
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 23, 2016, 02:37:38 PM |
|
Martingale works. That's a fact. But it has problems. Also, you need to deposit an averagely good amount of money to have any opportunity of earnings. Just make sure to follow the system and you'll make money ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I think even you are putting high amount or good amount to use your strategy martingale will not work unless if you are lucky you can make a profit with that way. many people are already tested this method and they are failed but few of them are success but the next day they are losing it again.. So its not working for me if you are not lucky. It is correct, whatever big bankroll we have at the end casino house will win, if you don't withdraw your money at a right time. If that is true that if we can win money with bigger bankroll then by now most of these casinos might have closed. In dice game only luck will bring us money not any method. Yes and that is the reason why they have a maximum bet in every site because in case a very huge gambler comes he will not be able to take away the profits from site at all.
|
|
|
|
blackmachinegun
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 24, 2016, 06:08:06 AM |
|
I would want to believe that even the gambling sire would even install devices to nail this thing from working. Those who were exposed to it earlier would have made a fortune out of it but not now again...
I think you still have the opportunity to benefit from gambling? since gambling will benefit you when you had great luck. then find a day that you piki as a lucky day for you. maybe it will help you to gamble again
|
|
|
|
hua_hui
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1016
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 24, 2016, 06:14:27 AM |
|
Martingale works. That's a fact. But it has problems. Also, you need to deposit an averagely good amount of money to have any opportunity of earnings. Just make sure to follow the system and you'll make money ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I think even you are putting high amount or good amount to use your strategy martingale will not work unless if you are lucky you can make a profit with that way. many people are already tested this method and they are failed but few of them are success but the next day they are losing it again.. So its not working for me if you are not lucky. It is correct, whatever big bankroll we have at the end casino house will win, if you don't withdraw your money at a right time. If that is true that if we can win money with bigger bankroll then by now most of these casinos might have closed. In dice game only luck will bring us money not any method. Yes and that is the reason why they have a maximum bet in every site because in case a very huge gambler comes he will not be able to take away the profits from site at all. It is to prevent whales from coming in and take a huge dent in bankroll. They can bet tens or even hundreds of btc and with martingale, the company is hard to outlast him, and that is why we have limit bets to prevent whales from the games too much.
|
|
|
|
ethereumhunter
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 24, 2016, 08:13:44 AM |
|
for people which often use martingale, i think its have a big chance to work. its because they have familiar with martingale so they can make a good strategy to win the games. and also this will need many experience to use martingale, not just in one night. but for people which don't use martingale, i don't think so. they can get loss of their money. so be careful.
|
..Stake.com.. | | | ▄████████████████████████████████████▄ ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██ ▄████▄ ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██ ██████ ██ ██████████ ██ ██ ██████████ ██ ▀██▀ ██ ██ ██ ██████ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██████ ██ █████ ███ ██████ ██ ████▄ ██ ██ █████ ███ ████ ████ █████ ███ ████████ ██ ████ ████ ██████████ ████ ████ ████▀ ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██ ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██ ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███ ██ ██ ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████████████████████████████████████ | | | | | | ▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄ █ ▄▀▄ █▀▀█▀▄▄ █ █▀█ █ ▐ ▐▌ █ ▄██▄ █ ▌ █ █ ▄██████▄ █ ▌ ▐▌ █ ██████████ █ ▐ █ █ ▐██████████▌ █ ▐ ▐▌ █ ▀▀██████▀▀ █ ▌ █ █ ▄▄▄██▄▄▄ █ ▌▐▌ █ █▐ █ █ █▐▐▌ █ █▐█ ▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█ | | | | | | ▄▄█████████▄▄ ▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄ ▄█▀ ▐█▌ ▀█▄ ██ ▐█▌ ██ ████▄ ▄█████▄ ▄████ ████████▄███████████▄████████ ███▀ █████████████ ▀███ ██ ███████████ ██ ▀█▄ █████████ ▄█▀ ▀█▄ ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄ ▄▄▄█▀ ▀███████ ███████▀ ▀█████▄ ▄█████▀ ▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀ | | | ..PLAY NOW.. |
|
|
|
hatshepsut93
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 3038
Merit: 2155
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 27, 2016, 05:50:36 PM |
|
for people which often use martingale, i think its have a big chance to work. its because they have familiar with martingale so they can make a good strategy to win the games. and also this will need many experience to use martingale, not just in one night. but for people which don't use martingale, i don't think so. they can get loss of their money. so be careful.
In games like Dice, Roulette, Slot, etc. there are no strategies that can allow you to overcome house edge, so martingale doesn't work. Martingale is a superstition that if you lost previously you somehow have more chances to win.
|
|
|
|
AbuZainab
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 26, 2016, 10:09:42 AM |
|
Martingale Probability Theory (A PROVEN FAIL) is no more a fail.
In "Almost Even Wager Bets" (Roulette, Over/Under, Coin Toss, etc), if anyone can handle table limits, bankroll (bigger but not infinte), at least 20 or more loses streak and -ve Ev (which is no more impossible), he can win. Any mathematicians interested to prove me wrong? I'll appriciate.
|
|
|
|
elusive1
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
October 11, 2016, 05:39:51 PM |
|
Martingale Probability Theory (A PROVEN FAIL) is no more a fail.
In "Almost Even Wager Bets" (Roulette, Over/Under, Coin Toss, etc), if anyone can handle table limits, bankroll (bigger but not infinte), at least 20 or more loses streak and -ve Ev (which is no more impossible), he can win. Any mathematicians interested to prove me wrong? I'll appriciate.
Not sure you realize how just often 20 in a row actually comes up! As they say, if Your One in a Million" and you live in New York, there is eight of you.
|
|
|
|
mrcash02
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
October 11, 2016, 05:50:52 PM |
|
It surely doesn't work. Any moment you can start losing bet after bet and when you see, you already lost millions of satoshis and you are doubling your bet again to try to retrieve all your money, maybe to get more 1000 satoshis profit, and when you do it you lose again!
It's unpredictable... But you must know about the risks before trying this ''strategy''.
|
|
|
|
Bitcoinsummoner
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
October 11, 2016, 05:54:12 PM |
|
It surely doesn't work. Any moment you can start losing bet after bet and when you see, you already lost millions of satoshis and you are doubling your bet again to try to retrieve all your money, maybe to get more 1000 satoshis profit, and when you do it you lose again!
It's unpredictable... But you must know about the risks before trying this ''strategy''.
Yes it will not work since i tried it already many times and almsot everything is not working any strategy but the same martingale concept still the same result.. it is better to play as manual than bot..
|
|
|
|
abonarea
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1003
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
October 11, 2016, 05:55:22 PM |
|
It still works but not for everyone and not always. We are used to generalized the things. I talk about myself after seeing people's opinion about martingale I also tried though it never worked for me this doesn't mean others get same result like me. It is your luck plus some way of playing what makes you money. There are different tricks like martingale which work for different people most of the times ,not always.
|
|
|
|
JeanMcCoy
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
October 11, 2016, 06:03:15 PM |
|
It surely doesn't work. Any moment you can start losing bet after bet and when you see, you already lost millions of satoshis and you are doubling your bet again to try to retrieve all your money, maybe to get more 1000 satoshis profit, and when you do it you lose again!
It's unpredictable... But you must know about the risks before trying this ''strategy''.
I also think its not working, I even think that the most strategy's are not working due to the fact gambling is based on luck and it will always have the chance that you lose no matter what is happening. Its just that you need luck to accomplish things with gambling.
|
|
|
|
emberbekas
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1000
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
October 11, 2016, 06:03:43 PM |
|
Each person treat martingale differently. Some people tend to use it for a longer time thats why he/she can lose all of his/her money with this system. And other people use it to gain small profit only, like 50% from his balance and stopped. Basically all systems will fail if we use it continuously.
|
|
|
|
|