FS: PCI-Express Extender Cables(w/ Molex)*GPU Dummy Plugs*PSU Adapters

[Cablesaurus]

Are you running cards crammed together in your mining rig and need extra airflow? Or do you simply wanting to circumvent space issues with a small case? Purchase a PCIe slot Extender Cable, PSU Adapter Plug, GPU Dummy Plug, and other great items to allow for increased airflow, room, and mining efficiency.

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[trentzb]

You may want to offer a modified version of the x1 extenders (cut open the back end) also. That is worth half a BTC or so to me.

[marcus_of_augustus]

How much extra to include a mod. with the power cores broken out and soldered into a single 12V line with molex connector termination? (On the PCI-e 1x16)

EDIT: As per this diagram, but for x8 or x16.
 
http://blog.zorinaq.com/images/flex-pcie-4x-modified.jpg
to do this
http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=44

Spec:
- x16 or x8
- max. length ribbons
- power cores broken out and combined into single Molex

be very interested, depending on quality.

[trentzb]

I could go for that mod also.

[Cablesaurus]

I don't have any Molex connectors available to harvest at this time or proper modification equipment, but I'll definitely look into modifications at some point in the future.

[Cablesaurus]

Thanks for the business and feedback everyone! If any questions, don't hesitate to ask.

[demonofelru]

Didn't know things like these existed that's pretty cool.

[Cablesaurus]

I have updated the BTC prices to reflect BTC value increases!

I would be interested in donating or trading for a means by which I could track & modify this sell-post automatically as the market changes. If you think you might be able to accommodate, please contact me.

[marcus_of_augustus]

Hmmm, just had a deflationary thought moment ... would really like a few of these for testing but now they have dropped in price ... do I wait until BTC goes up more or do I buy now because they could earn me more .... ??

Weird feeling, well not that weird, I've been sitting on gold for 15 years while my house crumbles down around me lol.

[trentzb]

Ordered from technopagan earlier in the week. He shipped item when he said he would and I received item as expected. Will purchase from again, right now in fact.

[Cablesaurus]

Prices are now updated live directly from MtGox.

Modified cables will be available within a few days.

[bitjet]

Prices are now updated live directly from MtGox.

that is really cool. how did you implement that?

[Cablesaurus]

Prices are now updated live directly from MtGox.

that is really cool. how did you implement that?

"Bogart" provided a script here http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6415.0 (Credit/Donations goes to them.)

It is now hosted @ http://www.cablesaurus.com/cgi-bin/usd2btc.cgi?usd_value=1 for the community's use.

[AmpEater]

I'm down for a modified cable or two

[casascius]

I would be amused to know whether eBay cuts your listing short simply for including the word "Bitcoin", regardless of the fact that you're not mentioning it to solicit a non-PayPal payment.

And if not now, in the future.

[bitcoindaddy]

I'm having trouble picturing the use of this card in my head - it looks too weak to hold the heavy card up - or the card would flop over on its side and block it's own airflow. Do you have a picture of it in use?

[nelisky]

Didn't test yet, but I have receive a x16 cable and it looks good

Thanks!

[bitcoindaddy]

It is not supposed to hold the card, it's only supposed to connect it.

Can you explain further? How is the card supported then?

[marcus_of_augustus]

It is not supposed to hold the card, it's only supposed to connect it.

Can you explain further? How is the card supported then?

Anyway you can devise ... hint: not by the indian cable trick I suspect.

[Cablesaurus]

I'm having trouble picturing the use of this card in my head - it looks too weak to hold the heavy card up - or the card would flop over on its side and block it's own airflow. Do you have a picture of it in use?

The easiest method would be to obtain some cheap L-Brackets with which you can affix to an open area of the case, this would allow proper support rigging.

[bitcoindaddy]

I don't suppose anyone has a picture?

[trentzb]

Here is what we use for our rigs...

[bitcoindaddy]

Nice. Did you bend the aluminum yourself or buy angle stock? Those look like rivets? What about tapping the holes?

[trentzb]

Angle stock/rivets. Too thin to tap holes.

[trentzb]

Another successful transaction with technopagan. Thanks!

[Cablesaurus]

That is truly beautiful work.

[chungenhung]

Looking at the "PCIe 1x Slot Modified Riser Extender Cable".
I assume that the "modified" part is that you cut open one end of it, so 16x cards can be inserted into the 1x riser? correct?

[Cablesaurus]

Correct. Modified cables are *now available* and the price list has been updated.

I'll be taking pictures soon as well and adding them to the eBay store for USD-preferring customers.

[chungenhung]

What is the benefit of PCIe x1 to 16x Adapter Modified Riser Extender Cable w/ Molex connector?
Why would one want it with the Molex connector?

[AmpEater]

I sent funds for 1 of your pcie1x to pcie16x adapter w/ molex connector.  I got a gmail error sending my email, but then it went through the second time, hopefully you get it.

[Cablesaurus]

I sent funds for 1 of your pcie1x to pcie16x adapter w/ molex connector.  I got a gmail error sending my email, but then it went through the second time, hopefully you get it.

Received, thank you. Will PM you tracking information once sent.

[Cablesaurus]

What is the benefit of PCIe x1 to 16x Adapter Modified Riser Extender Cable w/ Molex connector?
Why would one want it with the Molex connector?

These are for anyone running a 5970 or a 6990 Card via an extender cable. It has been shown that enough power is being drawn through the PCIe slot to cause physical damage to a cable in a short period of time with a highpower card. This modification allows bypassing power around the PCIe bus.

[chungenhung]

Will you upload pictures (or have ebay links) by the end of day?

[marcus_of_augustus]

What lengths do you have the PCIe x1 modified cables in?

These guys have up to 50cm but at some point the comms link will be affected I suspect.

http://www.ameri-rack.com/ARC1-PESX1B-Cx_m.html

Also are your ribbon cables shielded (EMI shielding) like these ones?

I'm up for one if length is longer than 10cm. If I can get 30cm would be great.

[chungenhung]

Agree, we want more info as to the length of those cables.

[Cablesaurus]

Hello folks,

Cable length is about 19cm or 7.5''. The cables are not shielded (at this time) though it is not an issue from what I've experienced as long as no devices touch the cables and the cables themselves don't touch each other. trentbz has no issues with his pictures posted above from what I've been told, if I understand correctly.

I should have a chance to hopefully get some decent pictures together tomorrow.

Thanks for the questions & input!

[chungenhung]

So do you have 1x extender with the other end cut open to allow a 16x to be inserted?
You are losing a lot of business every day you delay those pictures.

[gigabytecoin]

I would be amused to know whether eBay cuts your listing short simply for including the word "Bitcoin", regardless of the fact that you're not mentioning it to solicit a non-PayPal payment.

And if not now, in the future.

I have seen a few ATI cards for sale on ebay recently promoting "Great for bitcoins!" in their titles...

[Sonata]

It is not supposed to hold the card, it's only supposed to connect it.

Can you explain further? How is the card supported then?

By whatever your heart desires..

[Cdecker]

I'd be interested in the modified risers. I'm assuming those are the ones with the power lines connected to a molex adapter, right?

[Ryan]

Are these compatible with dual-card mining on Windows?

If so I'll take one of these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=150601570961&si=TeQxQ8a%252BWdSHGVZgH0MjawpXJzk%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT#ht_773wt_1139

[Cablesaurus]

Contacted each of you,

Pictures for the Adapter Modified 1x -> 16x Cables up. Working on other pictures now.

[Atarhorn]

Hi,

I'd like to buy you :

2X PCIe x1 to 16x Adapter Modified Riser Extender Cable w/ Molex Connector

with 1st class international shipping

[chungenhung]

the BTC price is not working correctly in your first post.
A lot of the price is just empty.

[Cablesaurus]

Atarhorn: PMed with address request and payment info, etc.

I'm not sure if the Price display is an issue with MtGox or with the price conversion script, looking into it. For now please refresh the page if the prices do not show or PM me with questions. Should be fixed soon.

[Cryptoman]

Is the molex connector needed for overclocked 5850s and 5870s?

[kr105]

So if I buy a motherboard with one slot x16 an other slot x1, with this product I will be able to run 2 graphic cards at the same time for mining, right?

Will the graphic card connected to the x16 get more mhash/s than the other one connected to x1 if both of them are the same model?


Thanks!

[Cablesaurus]

Is the molex connector needed for overclocked 5850s and 5870s?

To my knowledge no, only for the dual GPU cards such as 5970's or 6990's.

So if I buy a motherboard with one slot x16 an other slot x1, with this product I will be able to run 2 graphic cards at the same time for mining, right?

Yep

Will the graphic card connected to the x16 get more mhash/s than the other one connected to x1 if both of them are the same model?

Both slots will deliver the same performance for mining.

[kr105]

So if I buy a motherboard with one slot x16 an other slot x1, with this product I will be able to run 2 graphic cards at the same time for mining, right?

Yep

Will the graphic card connected to the x16 get more mhash/s than the other one connected to x1 if both of them are the same model?

Both slots will deliver the same performance for mining.

Thank god that i found this topic, i almost purchased a double PCIe x16 motherboard just for mining and now with this cable i will save some bucks purchasing a single x16 and x1
I will order the cable tomorrow, thank you!

[dishwara]

If i want to run 4* 5870, then i can go for a mother board with 2 pci ex16 or 8 slot & 2 pci x1 slot?

[JWU42]

Just sent e-mail...

[niooron]

Have you shipped internationally to anyone? Just to be safe.

[nelisky]

Have you shipped internationally to anyone? Just to be safe.

To me in Portugal. And it was pretty damn quick to arrive too

[Cablesaurus]

If i want to run 4* 5870, then i can go for a mother board with 2 pci ex16 or 8 slot & 2 pci x1 slot?

Yep.

[Cablesaurus]

If there's anyone I've yet to speak with this evening please drop me an e-mail (cablesaurus+btc@gmail.com) or pm.

[Cablesaurus]

Pictures are now posted of the Molex modified cables.

[dishwara]

Update front page of this thread with changed address.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150601570961&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_791wt_1139

This address is used for 3 different products.

[Cablesaurus]

Thanks, links corrected.

[dishwara]

PCI-Express PCIe 1x Riser Card Flexible Extender Cable
PCIe 1x to 16x Adapter Modified Riser Extender Cable
PCIe 1x to 16x Adapter Modified Riser Extender Cable w/ Molex Connector

What is the different between the above three? Do i need it for 5870 cards, if i want to put 8* 5870 cards which has 8 slots(4 x16 or x8  & 4 x1 ) or any combination, but has 8 pcie slots.

I understand 1x cable , just gives lengthy cable so that card can be placed at a distance.
You attached molex connector, so it won't try to draw power from pcie slot.
But what is 1x to 16X modified extender cable? I don't understand & why this type of cable needed. Do it may need for 5870?

How many days approximately it will take to reach to Tamilnadu, India after i paid & you received money.

[Cablesaurus]

The slot adapter cable is to fit a larger card. So, for example, if you have a 5870 to connect, but only a 1x slot free, you could use this adapted cable with the side cut off the socket to fit a larger card.

This will suit for any card and you would use the Molex modified one for mainly 5970's or 6990 cards.

Shipping time will depend on the chosen method of shipping, however shipping is still available on International packages via First Class, Priority, or Express.

[1bitc0inplz]

This looks like a good idea.

I am bookmarking this, as it looks like a good upgrade when I'm ready to add a second mining GPU.

[Inaba]

I got my order of extenders today.  However, I have a question/concern.  I'm not terribly knowledgeable about the PCIe pin package, so forgive me... but only the +12v connection on the PCIe bus is connected to these via the MOLEX.  That would seem to me it's allowing the ground to go through the bus on the motherboard.

If I were to power one of my cards with a PSU that is NOT powering the motherboard, it's going to create a ground differential that may burn out the card, the motherboard or both.  Can someone explain why this is not an issue?  Or are the cards taking their 75v from the PCIe bus not grounded through the bus?  I'm thinking they have to be, since you can put cards in a machine that do not have external power requirements and supply solely off of the bus. 

[trentzb]

This may be an issue although I cannot definitively confirm as I haven't modified PCIe extenders to peel off the 12V to test yet....will do so in coming days.

However I did work on multiple PSU arrangements yesterday where one is powering board/peripherals and a GPU or two and a secondary ATX PSU powers additional GPUs. This arrangement works but grounds must be connected between PSUs. It may be something specific to my particular PSUs but I found it was not enough to light up a GPU by just making PSU #2 hot with PSON. I had to connect PSON + GND to PSU #1 and I was then able to light up additional GPUs.

I also wonder about how a GPU will light up if PCIe +12 but not GND is supplied from a secondary PSU/source. I believe forum user mrb has experience in this area, maybe he can provide some insight if he runs across this thread.

[Cablesaurus]

Ground is going through the PCIe bus. Pins A2+A3;B1+B2+B3 are the 12v pins rewired to the Molex. Regarding GPU detection using these cables on a 5970 or 6990 would detect without further wiring modifications.

Trentbz/Inaba, http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=44 Per the reference posted in this blog and confirmed test current drops from a combined 14A to < 1A. Preventing cable wear from extended use. Let me know if any questions.

[Inaba]

Ground is going through the PCIe bus. Pins A2+A3;B1+B2+B3 are the 12v pins rewired to the Molex. Regarding GPU detection using these cables on a 5970 or 6990 would detect without further wiring modifications.

Trentbz/Inaba, http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=44 Per the reference posted in this blog and confirmed test current drops from a combined 14A to < 1A. Preventing cable wear from extended use. Let me know if any questions.

Thanks for the link, but I don't see where it's saying he was using two power supplies with independent ground potential.  From the way the blog reads, he's connecting the +12v to the same PSU that is supplying power to the motherboard, making the ground the same regardless of the +12v source.

If my +12v source is coming from a different PSU than is grounding the motherboard, the potential will be different and that's where the bad things can start.  I completely agree that there would be no problem supplying +12v from a molex on the same PSU that's grounding the motherboard.

[trentzb]

I believe mrb is using dual PSUs as listed at http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=42.

First PSU to power the four 8-pin connectors:
4 * 11.4 (8-pin) = 45.6 Amp
Second PSU to power everything else (four 6-pin connectors + four cards via PCIe slot + ATX connectors for mobo/CPU):
4 * 6.7 (6-pin) + 4 * 3.7 (slot) + ~3 (mobo/CPU) = ~45 Amp

I can't determine by his post how he has ground connected between them except that supplying the PCIe 8-pin via PSU #1 and supplying the PCIe 6-pin + PCIe slot via PSU #2 should tie them together sufficiently...not sure if this was intentional or not though.

I am not yet providing 12V to the PCIe slot via an extender but I did do dual PSUs yesterday and when I supplied PCIe 6-pin from PSU #2 to GPUs and PCIe slot/ATX/peripherals via PSU #1 I could not get GPUs to light up. As soon as I cross connected the PSUs via PSON and GND the GPUs lit up as expected.

I would suspect that you may have issues if you provide PCIe 12V and/or PCIe 6/8-pin from a secondary PSU that is NOT common ground with primary PSU. I know I did with providing PCIe 6-pin separate than PCIe slot 12V.

And fortunately, I didn't kill any GPUs during my 30 second power up.

[marcus_of_augustus]

Ground is going through the PCIe bus. Pins A2+A3;B1+B2+B3 are the 12v pins rewired to the Molex. Regarding GPU detection using these cables on a 5970 or 6990 would detect without further wiring modifications.

Trentbz/Inaba, http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=44 Per the reference posted in this blog and confirmed test current drops from a combined 14A to < 1A. Preventing cable wear from extended use. Let me know if any questions.

Thanks for the link, but I don't see where it's saying he was using two power supplies with independent ground potential.  From the way the blog reads, he's connecting the +12v to the same PSU that is supplying power to the motherboard, making the ground the same regardless of the +12v source.

If my +12v source is coming from a different PSU than is grounding the motherboard, the potential will be different and that's where the bad things can start.  I completely agree that there would be no problem supplying +12v from a molex on the same PSU that's grounding the motherboard.

Yes, best if used off the same PSU. Also if using multiple PSUs just make sure all your grounds are common. What crazy set-up would have two PSU's right next too each other, supplying the same equipment with 'floating' grounds? You are asking for trouble if that is your case anyway.

Whole server farms make sure that the ground is common throughout the building. If you want to have floating grounds that is your own problem I'd say. The basic idea is to bypass power around mobo to PCIe GPU card, ATX PSU connectors have reported burnouts with more than 3 5970's on same mobo.

[dishwara]

Ground is going through the PCIe bus. Pins A2+A3;B1+B2+B3 are the 12v pins rewired to the Molex. Regarding GPU detection using these cables on a 5970 or 6990 would detect without further wiring modifications.

Trentbz/Inaba, http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=44 Per the reference posted in this blog and confirmed test current drops from a combined 14A to < 1A. Preventing cable wear from extended use. Let me know if any questions.

Thanks for the link, but I don't see where it's saying he was using two power supplies with independent ground potential.  From the way the blog reads, he's connecting the +12v to the same PSU that is supplying power to the motherboard, making the ground the same regardless of the +12v source.

If my +12v source is coming from a different PSU than is grounding the motherboard, the potential will be different and that's where the bad things can start.  I completely agree that there would be no problem supplying +12v from a molex on the same PSU that's grounding the motherboard.

Yes, best if used off the same PSU. Also if using multiple PSUs just make sure all your grounds are common. What crazy set-up would have two PSU's right next too each other, supplying the same equipment with 'floating' grounds? You are asking for trouble if that is your case anyway.

Whole server farms make sure that the ground is common throughout the building. If you want to have floating grounds that is your own problem I'd say. The basic idea is to bypass power around mobo to PCIe GPU card, ATX PSU connectors have reported burnouts with more than 3 5970's on same mobo.

"all your grounds are come"  what does it exactly mean?

In my house their is a ground given by inserting a 1 inch GI pipe in to earth for around 2 feet & a wire is connected to that, that wires goes to every electrical  board in my house & connect to central big connector in a 3 pin connector.
Is that you saying to have common ground?

Today, i have to run 2 systems with one pc has one 6870 & other has one 5870.
I have only one cooler master GX 550W power supply & 2 low cost PSU which comes with cabinets.
I thought of connecting the low cost psu to motherboard & give power to system.
Then short the pin of GX 550 W PSU mother board connector 20 + 4 pin (Don't know which 2 pins/connections to short), which will switch on the GX 550 W PSU.
& then connecting(only after switching off 550 W PSU & computer) PCI-e 6 pins connectors from GX 550W PSU to the cards in 2 separate pc, the 6870 & 5870.

Can it be done & is it safe to do it?
I won't run this setup for months. It is just for 3-7 days, until i get Cooler master silent pro gold 1200 W. Its in shipment & i don't want my newly bought 5870 card lying around.

[marcus_of_augustus]

just make sure all your grounds are common

that's what I said .... read slower maybe?

[dishwara]

I understand you saying common ground.
I am asking, is my above setup will be safe?, coz besides ground, it may rise some other problem, that why asking.

[Inaba]

Aren't the PSU's and/or motherboards floating ground by design?  I just don't know enough about the internal grounding of a computer PSU and the motherboards to speak with any authority which is why I was asking.  But I thought I remember reading somewhere that most commodity hardware on the desktop has floating grounds due to cost issues or something?

[nelisky]

Would you also be able to provide the cable to power up 2 PSUs in tandem? Something like http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11742/cpa-167a/ModRight_CableRight_Dual_Power_Supply_Adapter_Cable.html?tl=g2c413s1220&id=qNzMZhNn

[dishwara]

Would you also be able to provide the cable to power up 2 PSUs in tandem? Something like http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11742/cpa-167a/ModRight_CableRight_Dual_Power_Supply_Adapter_Cable.html?tl=g2c413s1220&id=qNzMZhNn

You can go for that cable, which is hassle free. But yesterday, i have to run my 5870 card, so used the psu(220-250W) in cabinet as it is. Then took another 250 W PSU, using molex to pcie 6 pin connector, connected & powered the 5870 card.
To start PSU, i used a wire to short pin 14 & ground. Pin 14 is GREEN & ground/com is any black which is near.
Everything works fine.
You can try this simple method & for safety use cello tape to cover the wire & 20/24 pin motherboard connector, which avoids accidental pulling of wire & safe to handle.
Or you can buy that cable. I hope technopagan can buy & send for you, but the shipping cost & time will be a problem if you are far from him.

This pages help to make it on your own.
http://pinouts.ru/Power/atxpower_pinout.shtml
http://aphnetworks.com/lounge/turn_on_psu_without_motherboard_the_paperclip_trick

This last one uses a switch, instead of wire, which help you to switch on & off.
http://www.gideontech.com/content/articles/196/1

[nelisky]

You can go for that cable, which is hassle free. But yesterday, i have to run my 5870 card, so used the psu(220-250W) in cabinet as it is. Then took another 250 W PSU, using molex to pcie 6 pin connector, connected & powered the 5870 card.
To start PSU, i used a wire to short pin 14 & ground. Pin 14 is GREEN & ground/com is any black which is near.
Everything works fine.
You can try this simple method & for safety use cello tape to cover the wire & 20/24 pin motherboard connector, which avoids accidental pulling of wire & safe to handle.
Or you can buy that cable. I hope technopagan can buy & send for you, but the shipping cost & time will be a problem if you are far from him.

This pages help to make it on your own.
http://pinouts.ru/Power/atxpower_pinout.shtml
http://aphnetworks.com/lounge/turn_on_psu_without_motherboard_the_paperclip_trick

This last one uses a switch, instead of wire, which help you to switch on & off.
http://www.gideontech.com/content/articles/196/1

Thanks for that. I actually used the green/black wire trick many times on water cooled set ups to fill the system and remove air bubbles without booting anything up. I can use that, certainly, but I don't like the idea of someday having to power down the machine remotely (has happened) and having that PSU just running and feeding a GPU, thus I search for something more permanent. I could just hack the thing up, push some clips into the connectors and all but there's enough equipment value involved to go that extra step.

[dishwara]

Definitely, value of hardware is important. I gave the link for temporary purpose only, which i found out yesterday to run my pc & happy that you used that before itself.
The cable you mentioned, is actually the best solution available, coz it won't need additional on/off, watching....
 

[caston]

I assume you could use these cable mods to run your PCI'e cards from a different PSU to your system PSU?

[Cablesaurus]

I assume you could use these cable mods to run your PCI'e cards from a different PSU to your system PSU?

If you're using a PSU not grounded to the motherboard, do not utilize a cable with modification. Make sure any secondary PSU to be used would be grounded through the motherboard.

[Cdecker]

I assume you could use these cable mods to run your PCI'e cards from a different PSU to your system PSU?

If you're using a PSU not grounded to the motherboard, do not utilize a cable with modification. Make sure any secondary PSU to be used would be grounded through the motherboard.

How would you go about grounding the PSU to the motherboard? Is is enough to mount them in the same (conductive) case?

[nelisky]

I assume you could use these cable mods to run your PCI'e cards from a different PSU to your system PSU?

If you're using a PSU not grounded to the motherboard, do not utilize a cable with modification. Make sure any secondary PSU to be used would be grounded through the motherboard.

By using the mentioned "hack" we will be connecting one "COMMON" line along with the "PS_ON". This is ground(ed), right?

[Cablesaurus]

I assume you could use these cable mods to run your PCI'e cards from a different PSU to your system PSU?

If you're using a PSU not grounded to the motherboard, do not utilize a cable with modification. Make sure any secondary PSU to be used would be grounded through the motherboard.

How would you go about grounding the PSU to the motherboard? Is is enough to mount them in the same (conductive) case?

I'm not sure if grounding to the case would be sufficient, it may or may not. More input would be helpful.
I've not used 2-PSU setups on my rigs.

[CydeWeys]

I am interested in purchasing one "PCIe x1 to 16x Adapter Modified Riser Extender Cable" at 2 BTC shipped to the US.  Let me know how you want to proceed with this deal.

[datafish]

I bought several of the 1x to 16x cables.  They arrived very quickly and work great.  I'm making use of a bunch of 1x slots that I thought couldn't be used due to location and connector size.

[ataranlen]

Just put in my order, and I am already very happy with the Level of service that technopagan provides!

[Cablesaurus]

Everyone I really appreciate all the comments and feedback so far! It's a treat being able to try & help the community.

[Cablesaurus]

There will be a 48 hour delay on shipment of 1x Extenders, 1x -> 16x Adapters, and 1x Extenders w/ Molex. Waiting on additional inventory that hasn't came in yet.
Feel free to place your orders and they will be sent out in the order received, hopefully sooner than expected.

I'm preparing Cablesaurus.com with a Bitcoin shopping cart, launching tomorrow morning, which will allow Bitcoin & Paypal purchases directly from my shopping cart. Stay tuned.

[Jere.Jones]

Wow.  I'm order #2 on Cablesaurus.com!

Now I feel like an early adopter.

Jere

[EPiSKiNG]

Ordered 2 cables, they came, I conquered.  Thanks dude.

-EP

[marcus_of_augustus]

Ordered cables arrived and all worked as advertised, 1x & 16x w/ Molex power.

Good service.

[itsagas]

I assume you could use these cable mods to run your PCI'e cards from a different PSU to your system PSU?

If you're using a PSU not grounded to the motherboard, do not utilize a cable with modification. Make sure any secondary PSU to be used would be grounded through the motherboard.

So if we are not using any modified cables, there is no need for grounding a second (or third) PSU to the motherboard? 

I have used the paperclip trick to put a second 400W PSU to power 1/2 of a 6990.  The PSU is sitting on the table and have been getting pretty good performance for the last 24hrs.  Am I missing something / doing something wrong?

[Cablesaurus]

Nope, from what you've described you're in good shape.

[Inaba]

I assume you could use these cable mods to run your PCI'e cards from a different PSU to your system PSU?

If you're using a PSU not grounded to the motherboard, do not utilize a cable with modification. Make sure any secondary PSU to be used would be grounded through the motherboard.

So if we are not using any modified cables, there is no need for grounding a second (or third) PSU to the motherboard? 

I have used the paperclip trick to put a second 400W PSU to power 1/2 of a 6990.  The PSU is sitting on the table and have been getting pretty good performance for the last 24hrs.  Am I missing something / doing something wrong?

If you are powering anything plugged directly into the motherboard with a second power supply, you have a potential grounding problem.  The kind of problem I've described here is not one that will blow up a card immediately and you'll instantly know there's a problem.  The grounding problem of this nature will slowly burn out components over time and/or shorten the life of the equipment.

The questions that arise then:

Is the problem is pronounced enough to worry about?  e.g. Will it shorten the life of the equipment enough that you care.
Is grounding to the case sufficient to make the ground differential acceptable?
Which (if any) pins on a modified cable need to be grounded to a common ground?

Personally, I would not try using two PSUs on anything expensive until I understood exactly what the consequences are.  It's entirely possible that you can burn out your card, motherboard, or PSU or any combination thereof.  It's also entirely possible that this fear is completely groundless (pun intended) and there's no need to worry at all. 

If you want to use two PSUs, the least you should do is make the grounds common by combining the two ground pins on the two PSUs.  I'm not sure this will solve the problem or be snake oil, though.  But at least it's something.

[Cablesaurus]

All items are back in stock! Check out the new www.cablesaurus.com!

[nelisky]

If you want to use two PSUs, the least you should do is make the grounds common by combining the two ground pins on the two PSUs.  I'm not sure this will solve the problem or be snake oil, though.  But at least it's something.

Assuming the 'COMMON' or 0V pins are indeed connected to ground (which in my very limited knowledge of electronics I'd assume) then wouldn't the hack to make the slave PSU power on with the master one automagically solve this? We are connecting one PWRON and one COMMON pin across the PSUs.

[Inaba]

So I did some more research on this... came across this, which is encouraging:

Yes, connect the "master" PSU's 20/24-pin to the motherboard and connect two jumper wires between it and the "slave" PSU. Referring to the pin-out diagram above, connect green to green and any black to any black on the two units and the slave will power on and off when the master does with the front chassis switch. The slave units are usually used for their additional 12V capacity to power graphics cards, fans, water pumps and the like but should also be used to power a couple of drives, either optical or hard, too. This will put a small load on the 5V rail and less stress on the PSU trying to deliver a 12V only load. Instead of using drives for a 5V load you can make a "dummy load" with cheap resistors. Two 10-ohm 10W ceramic resistors or a single 5-ohm 10W aluminum will put a 1A load on a 5V circuit and dissipate ~5W of heat.

Ready made dual PSU adapters are sold by Ultra and Lian Li and also come bundled with Cooler Master dual PSU capable tower cases. Performance-pcs.com selling the Ultra adapter does ship worldwide.

[marcus_of_augustus]

I assume you could use these cable mods to run your PCI'e cards from a different PSU to your system PSU?

If you're using a PSU not grounded to the motherboard, do not utilize a cable with modification. Make sure any secondary PSU to be used would be grounded through the motherboard.

By using the mentioned "hack" we will be connecting one "COMMON" line along with the "PS_ON". This is ground(ed), right?

Without seeing your exact set-up, I'd say, yes, that should do it.

[Cablesaurus]

Graphics card Dummy Plugs are now for sale.

[ataranlen]

I am in interested in one of these mining chassis.

[yrral]

Ordered a 1x to 16x adaptor and 2 day shipping. Got it 2 days later. Works as advertised. Great service. Would recommend.

[Inaba]

Waiting on the pics!  What's projected cost?

[minerX]

Can you daisy chain these together?  I've already got a case and was thinking about sticking a couple of GPUS on the outside panel but I would need longer then 7 inches.

[Cablesaurus]

Can you daisy chain these together?  I've already got a case and was thinking about sticking a couple of GPUS on the outside panel but I would need longer then 7 inches.

19cm is the maximum supported length for PCIe extension. However with a Mining Chassis you would be able to reach the cards without issue.

[nelisky]

I can't really tell from the pictures, does it have place for 2 PSUs?

Also, and more importantly, what would be the shipping cost to Portugal?

[Inaba]

Those look good, but I see some issues with them that are a real deal breaker for these in quantity (which may be fine if you aren't looking to do higher quantities):

1. It's about 1" too high and looks like it could be lowered 1" without causing clearance problems.  The 1" would facilitate it being able to be put into a 1/4 cab rack in pairs.  With the current height, you can only get 1 in a 1/4 cab with 90% of the space needed for a 2nd one going to waste.
2. They don't look like they can be stacked and have no provisions for mounting in a rack from the pictures.  Ideally, being able to stack them in a rack would be awesome.
3. Is there space for 2 PSUs?
4. With #2 the hard drive placement makes stacking difficult.
5. Nice to have the option to move the cards closer together to have 5 (or 6?) cards in one machine.  I would like to run 5 cards per mobo, but 4 is nothing to sneeze at. You don't need a lot of space between cards to cool them, which brings me to the final #6
6. There doesn't appear to be any place to mount fan(s).  Regardless of it's open air design, if you put these in a rack, you absolutely need to get some airflow going from front to back.  Being able to mount a couple 120mm fans on the front blowing across the cards towards the back would be important.

Otherwise, these look pretty cool and I'll probably get at least one for my own personal use if not a couple.  If nothing else, they'll make interesting desktop cases

[Cablesaurus]

Thanks for the excellent feedback, we will be redesigning to accomodate. Preorders will be delayed until the redesign is complete soon.

Question for Inaba and others, how much concern is there over the ability to house an optical drive?

[Inaba]

Absolutely none for a rack case/mining rig.  As a desktop case, I'd say somewhat important. 

I think that you could mount both an HD/set of HDs and an optical drive on the side and "inside" the case, so even if you wanted to rack it or stack it and still maintain your drives, that would be ideal.  Now that I think about it, actually would be pretty awesome to be able to stack theses even on a desk where the bottom of one will fit into the top of the other one to provide some stability. 

Just for reference, 1/4 cab is usually 10U, giving you 17.5" of vertical space.  Most cabs are 19" wide, though I hear there are 23" ones, but I've not ever used those variants. 

If you were so inclined and needed more room, you could stretch it out a bit, since there's plenty of room in a cabinet from front to back.

[niooron]

Just bought an adapter from the website with btc. Let's see if it works.

[minerX]

I need a mining chasis that supports 7 cards.  Maybe you can take the idea and have a 7 card "special order" option. 

[Kris]

Receive my package of 16 cables in 7 days to Denmark.

You just forgot to write the business name on the package so I had to move my ass down to the post office.

Anyhow thanks.

Kind regards
Kris

[dishwara]

Received cables i ordered on 16th in 7 days to my home, India with customs clearance.
I was in fear that 27% customs has to be paid, but courier guy just gave parcel & went.

But, small mistake.
I ordered 21 nos. 1x to 16x modified extender & 2 nos. 16x to 16x extender, & i received the same only. I counted it to verify.
But, the customs dispatch deceleration note says, 15 + 2 =17 only with a value of 240+ USD.

Is this made me customs clearance easy?

I give +1 or +23 to cablesaurus for door delivered to me in one week in perfect condition.
Thanks.

[niooron]

You should start reselling newegg graphics cards too. You are the first to take shipping hardware seriously for btc and you have an automated website.

[CubedRoot]

I wish I had seen this last week   I bought a few extenders from some chinese seller on ebay and its taking forever to get them

Do you have any pics of the mining chasis yet?

[Cablesaurus]

But, small mistake.
I ordered 21 nos. 1x to 16x modified extender & 2 nos. 16x to 16x extender, & i received the same only. I counted it to verify.
But, the customs dispatch deceleration note says, 15 + 2 =17 only with a value of 240+ USD.
Thanks.

Hey there Dishwara,
Actually that was just an issue with getting the label to print in Paypal with an old method, as each cable does not weigh 1oz. Paypal shipping is weird sometimes.

[Cablesaurus]

My partners and I have taken several suggestions into account and are working on several changes to the Chassis to be released imminently. We will have pictures and tons of details available soon.

[SchizophrenicX]

Hi I've briefly gone thru the thread, I know some mods are done and stuff but are the 1->16x extender adapters readily available in stores? I've been meaning to build my first rig and have been trying to skim on the MOBO and other peripherals to mining as much as possible. I don't think I can wait for ordering this to arrive.

And does using PCI -> PCIe adapters hurt the MOBO in anyway? I'm trying to get 5/6 slots total (PCIe + PCI) and get 8 GPU (2x5970 + 4x4850) on 1 rig with 2 PSU which I still have no idea how I'm going to hook them up yet.

Is this possible?

[inh]

Another vouch for great service, got my cables fast + great communication!

[darvil]

Got my 3 cables (16x extender) and +1 1x to 16x on the way.

Tested it today and installed another video card on my mining rig.  The cables were shorter then expected (7 inches) but I manage to fit the card by balancing it on another card.  Works great!  Thanks.

Will test daisy chaining them later on.

+100 on fast shipping and excellent communications.

[Chris Acheson]

Daisy chaining DOES NOT WORK.  If you get it to work at all, your system will be horribly unstable.  This is unfortunate, because as far as I can tell, it's impossible to get longer cables than the ones Cablesaurus sells for a reasonable price.

That said, I've bought several cables from Cablesaurus, and they work just fine, and service has been great.  There was a small miscommunication in which I was sent a x1->x16 w/ molex cable instead of a full x16 w/ molex cable.  He sent out the proper cable immediately at no charge, and I used to x1->x16 in the meantime.

By the way Cablesaurus, I picked up some envelopes today, so I'll send the x1->x16 cable back to you as soon as I get a chance to go to the post office.

[airdata]

bought 1 of them

Thanks.

[demonofelru]

Bought a couple of them a while ago great service and communication.

[CubedRoot]

19cm is about the max you can go with PCIe. THats why Cablesaurus doesnt make them any longer, and its also why you cant daisy chain them. IF you wanted a longer cable you would have to HEAVILY shield each of the many wires of the extender.  PCIe was never meant to be used over long distances so there is almost no noise filtering in the bus, it just wasn't designed for that. 

If the extenders I ordered from the chinese seller on ebay doesnt show up by Tuesday, I will order them from Cablesaurus.

[Cablesaurus]

There was an issue with the web site yesterday processing Bitcoin orders, if you ran into trouble placing an order please let me know. You were not affected by this if you received a confirmation e-mail.

[grue]

why are these cables so expensive? Is it any different from this $4 cable? (http://cgi.ebay.com/PCI-E-1X-Riser-Card-PCI-Express-Ribbon-Extender-Cable-/180673151583?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a10f5825f) and any idea why it costs $2.7 extra to cut the side of a pci-e extender?

[Chris Acheson]

why are these cables so expensive? Is it any different from this $4 cable? (http://cgi.ebay.com/PCI-E-1X-Riser-Card-PCI-Express-Ribbon-Extender-Cable-/180673151583?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a10f5825f)

I believe it's the same cable, but Cablesaurus ships from the US, while that Ebay seller ships from China.  With Cablesaurus you wait 2 or 3 days (assuming you're also in the US), with the other seller you wait 2 or 3 weeks.  If you're depending on having those cables to add more mining capacity, getting them quickly is of utmost importance.

and any idea why it costs $2.7 extra to cut the side of a pci-e extender?

Because there are lazy people who will pay that much to have someone else do it for them.    If you're not one of those people, you can save $2.7 per cable.

[grue]

why are these cables so expensive? Is it any different from this $4 cable? (http://cgi.ebay.com/PCI-E-1X-Riser-Card-PCI-Express-Ribbon-Extender-Cable-/180673151583?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a10f5825f)

I believe it's the same cable, but Cablesaurus ships from the US, while that Ebay seller ships from China.  With Cablesaurus you wait 2 or 3 days (assuming you're also in the US), with the other seller you wait 2 or 3 weeks.  If you're depending on having those cables to add more mining capacity, getting them quickly is of utmost importance.

ok, makes sense.

and any idea why it costs $2.7 extra to cut the side of a pci-e extender?

Because there are lazy people who will pay that much to have someone else do it for them.    If you're not one of those people, you can save $2.7 per cable.

is it complicated to cut it?

[Chris Acheson]

is it complicated to cut it?

Not particularly: http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=53

I use a hacksaw, and then a knife to cut out the remaining plastic bit that's inevitably still in the slot afterwards.

[marcus_of_augustus]

why are these cables so expensive? Is it any different from this $4 cable? (http://cgi.ebay.com/PCI-E-1X-Riser-Card-PCI-Express-Ribbon-Extender-Cable-/180673151583?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a10f5825f) and any idea why it costs $2.7 extra to cut the side of a pci-e extender?

Plug 'n play ... and the guy obviously knows what he's doing.

[IlbiStarz]

So using 2 power supplies with these is a no go?

[marcus_of_augustus]

So using 2 power supplies with these is a no go?

Do you have trouble reading dude?

[bitpop]

Need pci-e x8 to x16 low profile
http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=10751.0

[pokermon919]

Hey guys I just got my 1x->16x extender and I can't get my comp to pick up the 3rd card. I've tried with and without dummy plug, still no go. Can anyone post up a picture of using a 1x slot with the extender to the vid card? My buddy tried everything even messing with bios and nothing seem to get the video card detected.

Comp stats:

-Win 7 64bit
-Already running 2- 5870, using extender to plug in a third card
-Mother board is Asus P5k Pro with both 16x slots already used and using the extender on a 1x slot.


Any help would be much appreciated!

[Chris Acheson]

Hey guys I just got my 1x->16x extender and I can't get my comp to pick up the 3rd card. I've tried with and without dummy plug, still no go. Can anyone post up a picture of using a 1x slot with the extender to the vid card? My buddy tried everything even messing with bios and nothing seem to get the video card detected.

Comp stats:

-Win 7 64bit
-Already running 2- 5870, using extender to plug in a third card
-Mother board is Asus P5k Pro with both 16x slots already used and using the extender on a 1x slot.


Any help would be much appreciated!

Try running one of the known-good cards on a known-good slot through the extender.  If that doesn't work, either there's a problem with the extender, or you may need to short the presence-detect pins as shown here: http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=42

[pokermon919]

Hey guys I just got my 1x->16x extender and I can't get my comp to pick up the 3rd card. I've tried with and without dummy plug, still no go. Can anyone post up a picture of using a 1x slot with the extender to the vid card? My buddy tried everything even messing with bios and nothing seem to get the video card detected.

Comp stats:

-Win 7 64bit
-Already running 2- 5870, using extender to plug in a third card
-Mother board is Asus P5k Pro with both 16x slots already used and using the extender on a 1x slot.


Any help would be much appreciated!

Try running one of the known-good cards on a known-good slot through the extender.  If that doesn't work, either there's a problem with the extender, or you may need to short the presence-detect pins as shown here: http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=42

I've tried different cards and switched them around and all the cards are in good working order. I'll look into that link you sent me thanks Chris. More help please! I have 400mhash that isn't being utilized, the sky will fall soon if I don't get it working asap lol.

[IlbiStarz]

So using 2 power supplies with these is a no go?

Do you have trouble reading dude?

Didn't Inaba say that there are issues with grounding/frying parts? How would you hook up another power supply so that both would turn on when you turned the computer on? There are only guides on how to jump start it...

[pokermon919]

Hey guys I just got my 1x->16x extender and I can't get my comp to pick up the 3rd card. I've tried with and without dummy plug, still no go. Can anyone post up a picture of using a 1x slot with the extender to the vid card? My buddy tried everything even messing with bios and nothing seem to get the video card detected.

Comp stats:

-Win 7 64bit
-Already running 2- 5870, using extender to plug in a third card
-Mother board is Asus P5k Pro with both 16x slots already used and using the extender on a 1x slot.


Any help would be much appreciated!

Try running one of the known-good cards on a known-good slot through the extender.  If that doesn't work, either there's a problem with the extender, or you may need to short the presence-detect pins as shown here: http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=42

Just checked out that article and I see there are 2 pins that must be shorted if the motherboard doesn't allow down pluging. What is it I'm supposed to use to short it with?

[IlbiStarz]

So using 2 power supplies with these is a no go?

Do you have trouble reading dude?

Ahh..I reread everything...
I'll just buy the Lian Li adapter from FrozenCPU..that should solve my problem!

Alright, time to order some of these modified cables

[Cablesaurus]

Shorting the presence detect pins should correct this issue, one would bridge pins A1 & B17 as in this picture:

A 24-ga wire should slide right into place without forcing.

This is something that seems to effect a small percentage of motherboards, while on the majority it won't be necessary.

[pokermon919]

Thanks Cable, I'll be giving it a try first thing in the morning tomorrow.

[lastobelus]

Will the 1x extender fit underneath a GPU? For example my rig uses an MSI 790 gd70, with 4 gpus. I'd like to add a fifth using the pci 1x slot, but I'm not sure if I'll need to also extend the gpu that covers that slot.

[Inaba]

Depends on the fan shroud on your GPU.  Most shrouds are too low to fit an extender in it.  Some aftermarket (and stock) coolers have some space between the HS and the board, you can run the extender up through the HS and then over to where you need it.

As far as the jumper goes for presence detect, all my motherboards required it, so I soldered the wire onto the extender. I will try to get a picture of it later today.

[lastobelus]

ok, seems like I'll need to use a dremel tool.

Now the question is power: I'm already using a cpu->pci and 2x molex -> pci.

I have only 2 more molex connectors on the PSU (which has plenty of watts -- 1250)

Do any of these have a chance of working, and which is likely to be better:

1. Split one of the pci connectors
2. Supply half of each of two molex->pcie adapters from a single molex line, using these adapters in two different gpus
3. Split the CPU line (cpu is a sempron 145, and I'm running headless so cpu usage is around 5%. so draw on the cpu line should be pretty low currently)

[trentzb]

It depends on whether your PSU is a single rail or multi rail. Also the gauge of the wire supplying the molex connectors should be taken into consideration. On some cheap secondary (~350W) PSUs I was using the molex connectors which had approximately 20-24 AWG wire, I melted both the molex connector and wire connected to a 5850 via molex to 6-pin adapters.

[pokermon919]

Shorting the presence detect pins should correct this issue, one would bridge pins A1 & B17 as in this picture:

A 24-ga wire should slide right into place without forcing.

This is something that seems to effect a small percentage of motherboards, while on the majority it won't be necessary.

Ok shorting the pins work! If your comp won't pick up from a pcie 1x slot short it like this picture. At first it didn't work for me probably because I didn't have a solid connection since the holes are so small.

[Thor]

I have just received several of these cables and seem to be running into a problem not described anywhere else here.

If I have a card plugged into an adapted x1 ->x16 cable (plugging the extender into an x16 slot) the computer refuses to boot at all.  Using a combination of sapphire 5850s and 5870s on a Crosshair IV Formula motherboard.  This happens even if I am only plugging in one of the cards that works when plugged straight into the motherboard, so I am confident it isn't any sort of ATX power issue.  I have tried with, and without, the pins shorted as shown in many of the diagrams here.

I appreciate any help or insight anyone here may be able to offer.

Thank you.

[Cablesaurus]

I have just received several of these cables and seem to be running into a problem not described anywhere else here.

If I have a card plugged into an adapted x1 ->x16 cable (plugging the extender into an x16 slot) the computer refuses to boot at all.  Using a combination of sapphire 5850s and 5870s on a Crosshair IV Formula motherboard.  This happens even if I am only plugging in one of the cards that works when plugged straight into the motherboard, so I am confident it isn't any sort of ATX power issue.  I have tried with, and without, the pins shorted as shown in many of the diagrams here.

I appreciate any help or insight anyone here may be able to offer.

Thank you.

Hi Thor, some motherboards will boot with the 1x->16x adapter plugged into the 16x slot, however in many cases you would need a straight 16-16x cable. Send me an e-mail to sales@cablesaurus.com and I can get a replacement in order if necessary.

[Cryptoman]

I have just received several of these cables and seem to be running into a problem not described anywhere else here.

If I have a card plugged into an adapted x1 ->x16 cable (plugging the extender into an x16 slot) the computer refuses to boot at all.  Using a combination of sapphire 5850s and 5870s on a Crosshair IV Formula motherboard.  This happens even if I am only plugging in one of the cards that works when plugged straight into the motherboard, so I am confident it isn't any sort of ATX power issue.  I have tried with, and without, the pins shorted as shown in many of the diagrams here.

I appreciate any help or insight anyone here may be able to offer.

Thank you.

I've also noted that some of the low-end microATX boards with one X1 and one X16 slot will not support use of both slots simultaneously.  I have a couple of machines with cards in the X16 slot to which I was hoping to add another card using the X1 to X16 adapter.

[Cablesaurus]

I've also noted that some of the low-end microATX boards with one X1 and one X16 slot will not support use of both slots simultaneously.  I have a couple of machines with cards in the X16 slot to which I was hoping to add another card using the X1 to X16 adapter.

That'd be motherboard related if booting 2 cards wasn't supported, unrelated to using an extender.

[mewantsbitcoins]

Hi,

I'm having a problem with my third card. I have this motherboard and 3 5870. Two are in pci e x16 slots and working OK. I bought x16 to x1 converter to get the third in, but my computer doesn't recognize the third card - I can only see 2 in device manager.
I am running Windows7 and already tried the solution suggested earlier in this thread shortening A1 and B17. I'm sure I did it right because I checked the connection with multimeter.

[sc8nt4u]

Hi,

I'm having a problem with my third card. I have this motherboard and 3 5870. Two are in pci e x16 slots and working OK. I bought x16 to x1 converter to get the third in, but my computer doesn't recognize the third card - I can only see 2 in device manager.
I am running Windows7 and already tried the solution suggested earlier in this thread shortening A1 and B17. I'm sure I did it right because I checked the connection with multimeter.

Haha, I like the picture. Sorry I can't help you though.

[Coma]

For the 1x 16x w/Molex conector it states:
# The molex connector helps prevent physical cable damage and possible motherboard wear from running a dual-GPU video card through an extender cable

I don't know if I need a molex conector. Does this means it is better but not necessary in any case?

[Chris Acheson]

For the 1x 16x w/Molex conector it states:
# The molex connector helps prevent physical cable damage and possible motherboard wear from running a dual-GPU video card through an extender cable

I don't know if I need a molex conector. Does this means it is better but not necessary in any case?

Take a look at this: http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=44

If all you've got is one card, you don't need the molex connector, as the cable itself can handle the current that the card draws from the motherboard.  The problem is when you're running multiple cards, the power drawn through the motherboard all adds up, and can potentially melt something.

I don't know the exact point at which you need the molex connector.  I went with it for the single 5970 on my 5-card rig.  Maybe I could have gotten away with not using it, but I didn't want to take the chance.

[Coma]

For the 1x 16x w/Molex conector it states:
# The molex connector helps prevent physical cable damage and possible motherboard wear from running a dual-GPU video card through an extender cable

I don't know if I need a molex conector. Does this means it is better but not necessary in any case?

Take a look at this: http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=44

If all you've got is one card, you don't need the molex connector, as the cable itself can handle the current that the card draws from the motherboard.  The problem is when you're running multiple cards, the power drawn through the motherboard all adds up, and can potentially melt something.

I don't know the exact point at which you need the molex connector.  I went with it for the single 5970 on my 5-card rig.  Maybe I could have gotten away with not using it, but I didn't want to take the chance.

Following those instructions I can play it safe I guess.
Great link, thanks.

[Cablesaurus]

Hi,

I'm having a problem with my third card. I have this motherboard and 3 5870. Two are in pci e x16 slots and working OK. I bought x16 to x1 converter to get the third in, but my computer doesn't recognize the third card - I can only see 2 in device manager.
I am running Windows7 and already tried the solution suggested earlier in this thread shortening A1 and B17. I'm sure I did it right because I checked the connection with multimeter. [/img]

Your picture is awesome. Do you have a Dummy Plug inserted into the card? That's likely why it's not detecting, in Windows a display always needed to be connected to your card, whether real or via GPU Dummy Plug.

[mewantsbitcoins]

Hi,

I'm having a problem with my third card. I have this motherboard and 3 5870. Two are in pci e x16 slots and working OK. I bought x16 to x1 converter to get the third in, but my computer doesn't recognize the third card - I can only see 2 in device manager.
I am running Windows7 and already tried the solution suggested earlier in this thread shortening A1 and B17. I'm sure I did it right because I checked the connection with multimeter. [/img]

Your picture is awesome. Do you have a Dummy Plug inserted into the card? That's likely why it's not detecting, in Windows a display always needed to be connected to your card, whether real or via GPU Dummy Plug.

Hi. Thanks for your reply. I think you are wrong. Dummy plug is not necessary for the card to be recognized as a device. In my experience dummy plug is only necessary to initiate GPU. In any case, I've tried it just to be sure with and without dummy plug. Also, I tried booting up with a monitor plugged in - no luck. One more thing - I tried taking out one of the working cards from pci e x16 and inserting the extender there, but it also didn't work. Unfortunately, the only conclusion I arrive is that the extender got damaged in transport although I cannot see any obvious damage. Is there any way to check it?

[anatolikostis]

PCIe 1x -> 16x Adapter Extender Cable

Does it fit to HD5xxx without doing additional manipulation?
I mean without need to do jumper...

[airdata]

Cablesaurus : do you have any pics of the soon to come mining chassis? 

Thanks

[Cablesaurus]

PCIe 1x -> 16x Adapter Extender Cable

Does it fit to HD5xxx without doing additional manipulation?
I mean without need to do jumper...

1x -> 16x Adapter will work for any 16x card from the 1x slot. Bridging is only used on generally lower end motherboards that have trouble detecting, and is independent of the card you use.

[Cablesaurus]

Hi. Thanks for your reply. I think you are wrong. Dummy plug is not necessary for the card to be recognized as a device. In my experience dummy plug is only necessary to initiate GPU. In any case, I've tried it just to be sure with and without dummy plug. Also, I tried booting up with a monitor plugged in - no luck. One more thing - I tried taking out one of the working cards from pci e x16 and inserting the extender there, but it also didn't work. Unfortunately, the only conclusion I arrive is that the extender got damaged in transport although I cannot see any obvious damage. Is there any way to check it?

The 1x to 16x Extender will not work from all motherboards from a 16x slot. It generally must be used from the 1x slot to your 16x card.
Every card I've used regardless of extender requires a dummy plug to initiate especially with Windows, and must remain plugged in for the duration of the cards use. This is required for any non crossfired card.

Edit: Saw your PM that things are working now, thanks for the update.

[Wes1180]

I have this motherboard and the xfx 6950, i am thinking about getting another one.

So I'd get one of the x1 to x16, but would I need the molex connection?
And how would I put the gpu in the case as the cable would cause a gap between the x1 and the card wouldn't it?
Also how would I use that open ended x1 slot? would that mean that you'd have to take off the one you have and put that in its place?

[Cablesaurus]

I have this motherboard and the xfx 6950, i am thinking about getting another one.

So I'd get one of the x1 to x16, but would I need the molex connection?
And how would I put the gpu in the case as the cable would cause a gap between the x1 and the card wouldn't it?
Also how would I use that open ended x1 slot? would that mean that you'd have to take off the one you have and put that in its place?

Hi there,
- Molex connected cables are needed solely for 5970 and 6990 users
- We're working on our hardware chassis, pictures will be up this weekend and shipments will begin as soon as possible
- The open ended slot will fit right onto your 16x card, it is designed to fit your current slot and card

[Cablesaurus]

For all those curious about the newly arriving Mining/Computer Hardware Chassis, pictures will be up of the first model this weekend and orders will begin.
This model will be a rack mountable solution.

Shipments will take about a week to begin, more details and pictures to follow.

[pokermon919]

For all those curious about the newly arriving Mining/Computer Hardware Chassis, pictures will be up of the first model this weekend and orders will begin.
This model will be a rack mountable solution.

Shipments will take about a week to begin, more details and pictures to follow.

can't wait to see it

[Coma]

- Molex connected cables are needed solely for 5970 and 6990 users

So on regular conditions an riser/extender with no molex modification is not required? Even if I connect 4 5830's to a single motherboard?
I thought  that power required on all pcie channels might cause problems like some slots melting or something.

[callmeivan]

- Molex connected cables are needed solely for 5970 and 6990 users

So on regular conditions an riser/extender with no molex modification is not required? Even if I connect 4 5830's to a single motherboard?
I thought  that power required on all pcie channels might cause problems like some slots melting or something.

It cant hurt and you are safe in case you want to upgrade to a dual gpu card, exchanging a psu is less painful than a dead mainboard.

[Cablesaurus]

- Molex connected cables are needed solely for 5970 and 6990 users

I thought  that power required on all pcie channels might cause problems like some slots melting or something.

I'm not aware of this posing an issue, generally the non molex modified cable would be fine in your case.

[CubedRoot]

I just picked up another GPU, so once I earn the BTC (just sold mine a few hours ago) I will buy one of your adapters Cablesaurus.  How long is shipping to zip 37307 (if you can possible tell me)?

Also looking forward to pics of the mining chasis!

[Cablesaurus]

I'm working on setting up the site page to begin taking pre-orders. Specific details listed on the front page of this thread and the web site page @ https://cablesaurus.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&products_id=14

Pictures!

[marcus_of_augustus]

Sweet .. nice chassis, step up from the cheap and cheerful angle aluminum.

Fits in a rack? Stackable?

How much?

[Cablesaurus]

Sweet .. nice chassis, step up from the cheap and cheerful angle aluminum.

Fits in a rack? Stackable?

How much?

• https://cablesaurus.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&products_id=14
• First shipment estimated week of June 13th, 2011
• Dimensions: 48.25cm x 58.50cm x 21.60cm (19'' x 23'' x 8.5'')
• 2 Chassis stack securely (with Stacking Kit) inside 10U of rack space
• Great for running 5 to 6 graphics cards securely mounted
• Rear equipment tray capable of housing 2 PSUs up to 7 1/8'' (18 cm) deep as well as a variety of other devices such as optical drives, water cooling equipment, etc).
• Mounting rails accommodate up to 4 hard drives.
• Provides mounting options for power supplies, optical drives, hard drives, or water cooling hardware

[Tally-ho]

Just wanted to drop in and say thank you.  I ordered a couple of PCIE 16x extensions and they are working great!

[The Koolio]

Currently out of stock of PCIe Extender Cables and will be back in stock this Tuesday the 7th.

Are you going to have an ample supply of these? I may need somewhere in the region of 15-20 of them for my rigs plus dummy adaptors. Would you be willing to offer me a discount for all these and also what is the quickest you can send them to London UK? Would extra charge allow for a quicker delivery?

[Cablesaurus]

Currently out of stock of PCIe Extender Cables and will be back in stock this Tuesday the 7th.

Are you going to have an ample supply of these? I may need somewhere in the region of 15-20 of them for my rigs plus dummy adaptors. Would you be willing to offer me a discount for all these and also what is the quickest you can send them to London UK? Would extra charge allow for a quicker delivery?

Hi there, contacted you with specific information. Bulk rates are available.

[Cablesaurus]

Just wanted to drop in and say thank you.  I ordered a couple of PCIE 16x extensions and they are working great!

Thanks for the feedback!

[tito13kfm]

Got a x1 extender cable and dummy plug.  Works great!

[stapler117]

Going to order a 1x extender cable once my latest bitcoin payout is confirmed and the cable is back in stock. Depending on how the installation goes, I'll probably order four more in the next two weeks and more after that.

[Cablesaurus]

All items are now back in stock & available.

[nemo]

Do I need the molex connector for a 5850?

[tito13kfm]

Do I need the molex connector for a 5850?

no

[Joey23art]

You have any PCI-E X1 to x16 adapters?

[nemo]

Is the difference between the PCIe x1 Extender Cable and the PCIe x1 to PCIe x16 Extender Cable that he opened up the back with a dremel so the card can fit?

[bcpokey]

Is the link for the pre-order mining chassis working for anyone else?

I'm interested but the link says "Home ::  Computer Hardware Chassis ::
Sorry, the product was not found." for me.

I'd be interested but I need a price estimate to see if it is worthwhile.

[Cablesaurus]

You have any PCI-E X1 to x16 adapters?

In stock, yes.
Working on that Chassis link as well.

[klayus]

do you ship to Romania?

[KnuttyD]

Amazing company; ordered 5 x16 extenders

[Cablesaurus]

do you ship to Romania?

Indeed.

[Cablesaurus]

Extenders are currently out of stock and will be back in stock Mon, 6/13.

[milk]

Please include into your shipping info a general idea about shipping times to other continents. Thanks

[pride]

I am in need of a quick fix. I have a motherboard coming today. I will be buying the extenders when they come back in stock.

However in the mean time, can I simply dremel the x1 slot on the motherboard?

2x6970 cards
motherboard:
1 x16
3 x1

EDIT: Just found out that I can, will report back for anyone else in a momentary bind...12hours - http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=14002.0

[Cablesaurus]

Pre-Orders are being accepted on PCIe Extenders to be shipped 6/13 - 6/14.

[Vwlopez3]

i dint read all the post so whats the point of having the molex connector ?

Its for cards that have dual gpu's like 5970 or 6990 that require alot of power from PCI-e slots and its safer to have a molex connector to help power it.

[nemo]

I ordered my cable Wednesday with the free shipping option and it showed up quickly, on a Saturday no less. If you need this, don't hesitate and don't buy it from ebay china.

Thanks again, dude.

[minerX]

I've bought about 10 cables from here and so far I am extremely pleased.   There was a slight mishap with my order quantities but Joe took care of it immediately and was very forthcoming and quick about email responses.

Will 100% order again from him.  Thank you!

[ataranlen]

Got my second order yesterday, 8 more cables plus one replacement! Thanks a bunch!

[Cablesaurus]

All items are now back in stock

[Cdecker]

Using the molex-modified PCIe x1 cables, and they work so far. Now I'm at the maximum of my PSU and will order a new one. Just a quick question: is it save to power a card on another PSU than the others? I basically have 3 cards already all on 1 PSU, and the fourth will be on PSU #2, and connect its 6/8-pin connector and its molex to this PSU.
Could there be a problem or am I on the safe side?

[Shades]

Just got my order. Verry happy with the service! Seems like shipping to Bulgaria is no problem ... nice!

[tito13kfm]

Using the molex-modified PCIe x1 cables, and they work so far. Now I'm at the maximum of my PSU and will order a new one. Just a quick question: is it save to power a card on another PSU than the others? I basically have 3 cards already all on 1 PSU, and the fourth will be on PSU #2, and connect its 6/8-pin connector and its molex to this PSU.
Could there be a problem or am I on the safe side?

It's not safe, but it can be done.

Short a Green and Black wire on the 20/24 pin ATX connector using a paperclip shaped like a U.  Hook up graphics card.  Try to figure out the exact timing of turning everything on.  It needs to be near simultaneous, but not quite.  Basically a few milliseconds after the main PSU starts the dedicated one needs to be switched on.

Although not all PSUs will power on like this, some need a constant draw device like a case fan hooked up to a molex connector.

[Cdecker]

It's not safe, but it can be done.

Short a Green and Black wire on the 20/24 pin ATX connector using a paperclip shaped like a U.  Hook up graphics card.  Try to figure out the exact timing of turning everything on.  It needs to be near simultaneous, but not quite.  Basically a few milliseconds after the main PSU starts the dedicated one needs to be switched on.

Although not all PSUs will power on like this, some need a constant draw device like a case fan hooked up to a molex connector.

That's no problem since I have an ATX 24-pin splitter that turns on both PSUs simultaneously. What I'm wondering is whether it creates some sort of power differential having the motherboard on one PSU and a connected Graphicscard on another.

[PulsedMedia]

I can't order, complains not confirmed address while it most certainly is

[Cablesaurus]

Hi pulsed, if you have trouble please send an e-mail to sales@cablesaurus.com.

[tito13kfm]

It's not safe, but it can be done.

Short a Green and Black wire on the 20/24 pin ATX connector using a paperclip shaped like a U.  Hook up graphics card.  Try to figure out the exact timing of turning everything on.  It needs to be near simultaneous, but not quite.  Basically a few milliseconds after the main PSU starts the dedicated one needs to be switched on.

Although not all PSUs will power on like this, some need a constant draw device like a case fan hooked up to a molex connector.

That's no problem since I have an ATX 24-pin splitter that turns on both PSUs simultaneously. What I'm wondering is whether it creates some sort of power differential having the motherboard on one PSU and a connected Graphicscard on another.

It's fine.  I've done it the way I described successfully once, so a splitter should make it easy mode.  They make special supplemental PSUs for graphics cards that fit in 5.25 bays, I'd assume the work on the same principle.

[AngelusWebDesign]

Just got my order -- excellent service.

I can't seem to get it to work on my particular machine, but I doubt it's the fault of the cable. Don't know whose fault it is!

I have a XFX 6870 that needs to connect to a 1x slot. I bought a 1x to 16x adapter (among other things).

My machine is currently using 239W, running a 5850 on the first (and only) 16x slot on the mobo.
The power supply is 650W Corsair  -- so I should have plenty of headroom for a 220W card.

My 650W PSU only has 2 6-pin PCI-E connectors (which are being used) so I used the Molex-to-PCI-E adapters that came with the card.
This card requires (2) PCI-E connectors.

Anyhow, I connected everything up securely, turned on the PC, and it stayed on for about 15 seconds before shutting itself off. I never got the "all clear" post beep.

Advice?

Matthew

[fpgaminer]

I just got my order today in the mail, and I have to say, it was very exciting to open that package. Not because it had some random cables in it or anything like that. It was amazing just to have in my hand a physical product, something very real, that was purchased entirely with Bitcoins. What a profound message on the reality of Bitcoins. I almost want to frame the cable and hang it in my room 

Anyway, works great. Thank you.

[Cablesaurus]

Just got my order -- excellent service.

I can't seem to get it to work on my particular machine, but I doubt it's the fault of the cable. Don't know whose fault it is!

I have a XFX 6870 that needs to connect to a 1x slot. I bought a 1x to 16x adapter (among other things).

My machine is currently using 239W, running a 5850 on the first (and only) 16x slot on the mobo.
The power supply is 650W Corsair  -- so I should have plenty of headroom for a 220W card.

My 650W PSU only has 2 6-pin PCI-E connectors (which are being used) so I used the Molex-to-PCI-E adapters that came with the card.
This card requires (2) PCI-E connectors.

Anyhow, I connected everything up securely, turned on the PC, and it stayed on for about 15 seconds before shutting itself off. I never got the "all clear" post beep.

Advice?

Matthew

Hi Matthew,
It sounds as if your card is insufficiently powered. You would need to use 2, 2x4-Pin Molex -> PCIe adapters. So, you'd have 4 molex connectors being turned into 2 PCIe connectors. Using just a straight 1x4-Pin Molex -> PCIe won't do the job usually... even if they came included with the card.

[Freakin]

 hmm didn't have any luck getting a 1x extender working on my rig

1x extender with end cut off

p5w DH Delxue

2x sapphire 5830 in 16x slots and another sapphire 5830 attempted to plug into 1x slot

if i boot *just* the 5830 in 1x it works fine (no jumpering)
if i boot *just* the 5830 in 1x and a single 5830 in a 16x it works fine (no jumpering)
if i boot all 3 cards only 2 of them show up, and there is a PCI Express Root Port in device manager with a Bang for error Code 12.

Tried disabling audio chipset, 1394 controller and 2x pci-e onboard gigabit NICs without any change

Anyone have any ideas?  this is going to put a cramp in my mining for sure...

[Cablesaurus]

hmm didn't have any luck getting a 1x extender working on my rig

1x extender with end cut off

p5w DH Delxue

2x sapphire 5830 in 16x slots and another sapphire 5830 attempted to plug into 1x slot

if i boot *just* the 5830 in 1x it works fine (no jumpering)
if i boot *just* the 5830 in 1x and a single 5830 in a 16x it works fine (no jumpering)
if i boot all 3 cards only 2 of them show up, and there is a PCI Express Root Port in device manager with a Bang for error Code 12.

Tried disabling audio chipset, 1394 controller and 2x pci-e onboard gigabit NICs without any change

Anyone have any ideas?  this is going to put a cramp in my mining for sure...

This is an uncommon limitation in power distribution for your motherboard. A molex cable would likely solve your issue, send me an e-mail and I can arrange setting you up with a replacement.

[CanaryInTheMine]

- 890FXA-GD70 mobo. have plenty of power
- Windows7 x64. sdk2.4 video driver 11.5 or 11.6
- received the PCIe x16 extender today and attempted to use it.


The system is completely unstable.  BSOD (from video driver) or it simply freezes.

I don't even begin overclocking anything (not enough time to get that far before issues occur).  Stock settings.

if I take out the 4th card the system runs just fine... not using crossfire.

Does anyone have any ideas about this?  Have you experienced this too or have you heard about it?

Thanks!

[trentzb]

Have you tried all 4 cards simultaneously in x16 slots (on board) not using an extender? How much power do you have and what cards are you using? What CPU/RAM/Peripherals?

[CanaryInTheMine]

Have you tried all 4 cards simultaneously in x16 slots (on board) not using an extender? How much power do you have and what cards are you using? What CPU/RAM/Peripherals?

Have not tried that since I don't have enough room to place all 4 directly onboard.
XFX 5830
4GB ram
no peripherals installed.
power is not an issue. have over 850 Watts available on separate rails.

[trentzb]

Doesn't an 890FXA-GD70 have 4 usable x16 double slots? I glanced at the photo at MSI to refresh my memory and it seems like it does unless the board is snug up against the side of a case in which case you couldn't fit that fourth in there, hence using the x16 extender I guess huh?

What PSU and what CPU are you using? I understand you believe power is not a concern but if your rails on not properly balanced you could be overloading one of them. PSU & CPU model?

Of course it would be ideal if you could slot that fourth card on board w/o an extender to test.

[CanaryInTheMine]

Doesn't an 890FXA-GD70 have 4 usable x16 double slots? I glanced at the photo at MSI to refresh my memory and it seems like it does unless the board is snug up against the side of a case in which case you couldn't fit that fourth in there, hence using the x16 extender I guess huh?

What PSU and what CPU are you using? I understand you believe power is not a concern but if your rails on not properly balanced you could be overloading one of them. PSU & CPU model?

Of course it would be ideal if you could slot that fourth card on board w/o an extender to test.

AMD Phenom II X2 555 CPU
ST1500 PSU

So I had to get creative since the last slot is not that well suited for a double-wide graphics card...
AN installed card not only covers the on mobo power/reset/OC buttons but also interferes with the case wiring...
Anyway, after shortening the pins on mobo and cutting the connectors in half, I got it in there... it a tight fit.

Everything works fine...

Conclusion:

1 - recieved a bad extender cable...
2 - the molex splitter does not draw the same power as the card would from the mobo.  and this probably causes issues I've observed...  I may be 100% wrong on this one, it's just a hunch... Someone else may be more knowledgeable to explain.

Thanks!

[trentzb]

Well with that PSU I concur that it is most likely not a PSU concern. I will assume your PCIe 6/8-pin power is marked per rail and you are connecting each 5830 to a single rail. Even if you shared a rail between two cards it probably wouldn't matter much since the alternate rail would fill in the slack.

Did you get an x16 extender with a molex power connector to supply PCIe slot power via a molex peripheral or just a standard x16 extender no molex? I didn't understand what you meant about the "molex splitter".

Something to keep in mind though when using these PSUs with multiple rails is how the rails are wired. I had to get wiring schematics from Seasonic to make sure I was balancing my loads on a dual rail PSU. The molex peripherals, CPU 12V, ATX and misc are on one rail as well as a couple PCIe 6/8-pin power cables and the other rail ran a couple more PCIe 6/8-pins.

It sounds as though you are safe on rail load balancing though. I would hope that Silverston put CPU/ATX/Peripherals all on a rail (or two) alone.

I would probably lean toward a defective extender.

[Cablesaurus]

Canary,

Contact me via e-mail and I can arrange a replacement.

[Cablesaurus]

Some new products being added Tuesday:

* PCI -> PCIe Adapters (Which will run your card even through an extender, at full speed, from a traditional PCI slot)
* Kill-o-Watt meters

We've also recently added:

* DVI Connector GPU Dummy Plugs (Direct DVI connector)
* VGA Connector GPU Dummy Plugs
* DVI -> VGA Adapters
* Molex -> PCIe 6pin PSU adapters
* Chassis stacking kits

Pictures are on the way as well!

[shakaru]

why cant i buy with bitcoin?

[no_alone]

I want to modify one of my pci-e x1 cables so to give it power from the psu..
I see that there are 4 pins giving 12v .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express#Pinout
(A2,A3,B1,B2).
But I sow that someone re-routed 5 pins instead of 4 pins...
http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=44

Can you help me and tell me how many pins do I need to re-route?
Thank you.

[AngelusWebDesign]

Just to let everyone know -- the cables worked out OK.

The problem I was having? It seemed to go away when I just re-seated both ends of the cable. I guess the lesson is "Those cables have to be 100% snug; connected all the way or they don't work". It isn't like I put them on half-way or something, either -- I just "pushed harder" on both ends, tried booting again, and it worked.

So if you're having trouble, try re-seating both ends of the cable.

[CanaryInTheMine]

why cant i buy with bitcoin?

There's a notice at the top of the page:

"Notice: Bitcoin payment temporarily disabled until exchange issues are resolved."

[IlbiStarz]

So I would have to get the molex connector if I've already got 4 cards running the "normal" way and I want to add 2 more cards using these adapters?

[hchc]

I order some cables over the weekend but there is no confirmation email and there is no reply to email. When would it be shipped out? Invoice ID: 243-1308461686
Thanks.

[airdata]

All cables I've ordered have arrived quickly and worked great.

Thanks.

[Jack of Diamonds]

Bought 2 with express shipping. Hoping to get this week.

I just "pushed harder" on both ends, tried booting again, and it worked.

Had that problem with a 6990 too; It just wouldn't detect in either Linux or Windows.
Turns out the little pci-e teeth were ~0.05m raised. Had to push them in tightly and suddenly it worked fine.

So nobody should panic if cards don't seem to work at first

[IlbiStarz]

If I already have a 6990 and 6870 running on my mobo, and want to add 3 5830's using the x1 adapters, do I need to get the molex ones or not to avoid mobo damage?

[Hollie]

When is the PCIe x16 Extenders and the DVI to VGA Adapter going to be in stock?

[fpgaminer]

Just to give credit, where credit is due. One of the extenders I ordered and received last week was bad. I contacted Cablesaurus and they promptly shipped a new one. Got it today and works great. 

So, thank you and keep up the great work!  Buy things with Bitcoins is lots of fun.

[Cablesaurus]

When is the PCIe x16 Extenders and the DVI to VGA Adapter going to be in stock?

Hi there,

These are in stock on the site, please let me know if you've trouble ordering

[Cablesaurus]

New products added this morning! All posted & in stock at www.cablesaurus.com

Kill-A-Watt Meter:
* This watt meter supports both domestic U.S. and international outlet prong styles


PCI to PCI Express Adapter Riser:
*Your card will run at full speed for mining, and you may use a PCI Express Extender cable with this riser! Perfect for those running out of slots.


DVI Display Detection Dummy Plug:
* No need for an adapter, this will plug right into your card to force GPU detection

[Cablesaurus]

If I already have a 6990 and 6870 running on my mobo, and want to add 3 5830's using the x1 adapters, do I need to get the molex ones or not to avoid mobo damage?

You may want to put one of the extra GPU's under a Molex cable.
Molex cables are useful for those running 5+ GPU's under one rig.

[airdata]

PCI to PCI Express Adapter Riser:
*Your card will run at full speed for mining, and you may use a PCI Express Extender cable with this riser! Perfect for those running out of slots.

AWESOME!

[IlbiStarz]

If I already have a 6990 and 6870 running on my mobo, and want to add 3 5830's using the x1 adapters, do I need to get the molex ones or not to avoid mobo damage?

You may want to put one of the extra GPU's under a Molex cable.
Molex cables are useful for those running 5+ GPU's under one rig.

Does it matter which card I use the molex for?

[IlbiStarz]

You guys should sell the dual psu boot up thing :

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/5637/cpa-167/Lian_Li_Dual_Power_Supply_Adapter_Cable.html

[Jack of Diamonds]

PCI to PCI Express Adapter Riser:
*Your card will run at full speed for mining, and you may use a PCI Express Extender cable with this riser! Perfect for those running out of slots.

Wow. Didn't know this is even possible. That is phenomenal.

Too bad I already ordered different stuff from your site.

[Cablesaurus]

You guys should sell the dual psu boot up thing :

I'll have this item available for BTC shortly.

[RyNinDaCleM]

I just received my PCIe extender today! Very prompt service, thank you!
I see more products to choose from! May be making more purchases soon!

[Cablesaurus]

Bitcoin payment is now re-enabled on www.Cablesaurus.com

[BitPorium]

I got my Chassis in great shape from them. Customer service is great. Owner is a nice guy! Recommended! Prepare to see mining rigs with his Chassis available from my site soon!

[newunit16]

when do you expect the 1x-16x adapters to be stocked?

[Cablesaurus]

when do you expect the 1x-16x adapters to be stocked?

They are in stock, I've corrected the site. Thanks for the heads up.

[Jack of Diamonds]

Hey.

Would you PM me a bitcoin address for order 329. It said the server was temporarily down during checkout about 5 mins ago. Thanks.

[joker]

I ordered 2 - PCIe x16 Extender Cable and 1 - PCIe x1 -> x16 Adapter Extender Cable w/ Molex Connector from these guys and currently have the setup running with no issues on Win7. Very nice quality, fast shipping and a reasonable price. No complaints! Thank you Cablesaurus!

[IlbiStarz]

Ordered the 1x to 16x adapter extender cable, but it looks like a 1x to 1x extender cable?

[scifimike12]

Ordered the 1x to 16x adapter extender cable, but it looks like a 1x to 1x extender cable?

Check both ends.  There should a notch that was etched away, leaving room for your x16 card. 

[IlbiStarz]

Ordered the 1x to 16x adapter extender cable, but it looks like a 1x to 1x extender cable?

Check both ends.  There should a notch that was etched away, leaving room for your x16 card. 

There's only one end with the black thing, the only end plugs in to the motherboard. And the black thing is not etched away :/

[mikegogulski]

Hey, Cablesaurus!

I'm thinking... make this product sized so that people in standard ATX 19" cases can squeeze 3x proper gfx cards on a mobo with 1x PCIe x16 and 2x PCIe x1.

This would mean working very hard to minimize the required lower clearance between connector and card. From the images you're putting out currently, what you've got works nicely with a 5U chassis.... WHICH IS NOT ACCEPTABLE

Any chance of an extremely slim left-angle board that would allow the adapted card to plug into an adapter crammed between a PCI and a PCIe slot?

[Cablesaurus]

Ilbistarz: E-mailed.
For anyone with order inquiries please e-mail me directly for the fastest reponse time (sales@cablesaurus.com.)

[Cablesaurus]

Hey, Cablesaurus!

I'm thinking... make this product sized so that people in standard ATX 19" cases can squeeze 3x proper gfx cards on a mobo with 1x PCIe x16 and 2x PCIe x1.

This would mean working very hard to minimize the required lower clearance between connector and card. From the images you're putting out currently, what you've got works nicely with a 5U chassis.... WHICH IS NOT ACCEPTABLE

Any chance of an extremely slim left-angle board that would allow the adapted card to plug into an adapter crammed between a PCI and a PCIe slot?

I'll try to check into this, thanks for the suggestion

[Cablesaurus]

Hey.

Would you PM me a bitcoin address for order 329. It said the server was temporarily down during checkout about 5 mins ago. Thanks.

Order prepared for shipment to avoid delay, e-mailed you address.

[Vwlopez3]

ordered some more cables but couldn't find bitcoin amount anywhere. Am i missing it? it kept giving me amount in dollars and said that if im paying in bitcoin it'll email me.

[Cablesaurus]

ordered some more cables but couldn't find bitcoin amount anywhere. Am i missing it? it kept giving me amount in dollars and said that if im paying in bitcoin it'll email me.

On the Shopping Cart screen you'll see a button that says "select currency" with 2 links. This should let you toggle between USD & BTC. Let me know if you've any troubles.

[Jack of Diamonds]

Hey.

Would you PM me a bitcoin address for order 329. It said the server was temporarily down during checkout about 5 mins ago. Thanks.

Order prepared for shipment to avoid delay, e-mailed you address.

Paid, thanks again.

[bunnybare]

Hey cable,

Just bought an x16 extender from your ebay account and an x1->x16 from your website.

Hope everything goes well!

Cheers,
bunny

PS. I think you should move this thread to Marketplace>Goods.

[Cablesaurus]

Dual PSU Adapter Cables are now in stock! Adding pictures now.

[shakaru]

Edit, will post results once concluded. Removed at posters request

[Jack of Diamonds]

I just lost one of my motheboards due to the 1x - 16x extender. I awoke to one of my rigs stuck at bios giving a pre video error with a cosntant 6 beep. Did a bit of playing around and then ended up taking it down to the shop to see what was wrong. So the board is dead. Log shows a very long draw on the line for about 2 min with a drop in current then it zeroed across.
After running both the card and the cables on my meter, the cable was getting such random numbers I figured there has to be a short. Hooked up a second cable, fine, no problem. Back to the first. Super crazy voltage levels.

So lets see. Im out one workstation board here. 3 gpus are now sitting doing nothing, and I still dont know where the order I placed before the damn Mt Gox crash, but to be honest, I dont even want them if they are this bad.

Just thought you all should know

Did your adapter have the extra molex cable injected in the ribbon?

I wouldn't use one without it tbh.

[shakaru]

I just lost one of my motheboards due to the 1x - 16x extender. I awoke to one of my rigs stuck at bios giving a pre video error with a cosntant 6 beep. Did a bit of playing around and then ended up taking it down to the shop to see what was wrong. So the board is dead. Log shows a very long draw on the line for about 2 min with a drop in current then it zeroed across.
After running both the card and the cables on my meter, the cable was getting such random numbers I figured there has to be a short. Hooked up a second cable, fine, no problem. Back to the first. Super crazy voltage levels.

So lets see. Im out one workstation board here. 3 gpus are now sitting doing nothing, and I still dont know where the order I placed before the damn Mt Gox crash, but to be honest, I dont even want them if they are this bad.

Just thought you all should know

Did your adapter have the extra molex cable injected in the ribbon?

I wouldn't use one without it tbh.

Yes, and the one that didnt have it is fine.

[Jack of Diamonds]

Damn. I'm paranoid now.
Thanks for the heads up though, hopefully it's just a statistically (%) expected failure.

[Cablesaurus]

I'm very sorry to hear that. If the cable was running for a time without issue then perhaps at some point the joint was damaged or bent sharply causing the fluctuations. Continuity is tested on each cable before being shipped and hundreds of cables have been shipped & are in use without issue. There are a lot of things that can cause load fluctuations possibly unrelated to the cable itself. I've PMed you with specifics to help analyze. Please get back to me when you've a chance, I'll be glad to work with you as closely as possible.

Regarding order questions, please e-mail sales@cablesaurus.com. There is currently no backlog on orders and all cable orders have been shipped. If anyone has questions on order status drop an e-mail to reach me directly.

[stapler117]

My cable has worked wonderfully for the past few weeks and hopefully there will be many more to come. Thanks for the prompt shipping!

Unfortunately I probably won't be ordering any more cables as I can't find a decent card at a good price to justify expanding my operation

I just wanted to suggest for you to look into making a longer cable. I realize that the 19cm is the longest it can be made without degrading the signal quality, but If hashing works fine with a pci -> pcie (max bandwidth of 2 gbit vs 4 gbit for pcie 1x) then this may work without a performance penalty. I would test this myself by plugging one cable into another and see how it performs, but I only have one cable...

[Cablesaurus]

My cable has worked wonderfully for the past few weeks and hopefully there will be many more to come. Thanks for the prompt shipping!

Unfortunately I probably won't be ordering any more cables as I can't find a decent card at a good price to justify expanding my operation

I just wanted to suggest for you to look into making a longer cable. I realize that the 19cm is the longest it can be made without degrading the signal quality, but If hashing works fine with a pci -> pcie (max bandwidth of 2 gbit vs 4 gbit for pcie 1x) then this may work without a performance penalty. I would test this myself by plugging one cable into another and see how it performs, but I only have one cable...

I've found 2 cables works on some boards... and oddly not on others. Thanks for the suggestions.

[rograz]

I've found 2 cables works on some boards... and oddly not on others. Thanks for the suggestions.

Interesting, I just assumed it wouldn't work after a friend of mine tested and got loads of stability issues with the card. Maybe I can squeeze another card in somewhere after all then if I'm lucky >_>

[qed]

Kill-A-Watt Universal Power Meter:
Bitcoin, Dwolla & Paypal Store Link: https://cablesaurus.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6&products_id=20&zenid=dd3b87df740be098bf8e602df3c9d3ee
* This watt meter supports both domestic U.S. and international outlet prong styles

This seems misleading to me. There are 2 different hardware version of that meter, for 110V and 220V. Both have the same layout as well as the same "plug holes", but you can't use the 110V on a 220V line and the other way.

Correct me if i'm wrong.

[Cablesaurus]

Qed: Initially we'd received what was supposed to be a switchable meter which has not had the load capacity expected. I'm actually working on replacing these with 2 different models and have removed them from the store a few days ago.

[haploid23]

i ordered two, and i'm quite impressed with the shipping. i expected to get it like a week later, but i got it in like 2, i think 3 day.

however, i think there's a problem with one of the cables. when using both, one of the GPUs didn't work and i thought it was the motherboard acting up. i took out all the cards and plugged each in one by one and in individual slots, then also tried this with the cable and it turns out one of them had a problem. the other one works great. i'm curious about the lemon rate on these, because stories like what shakaru kinda scares me

[Stocker]

I bought 7 cables and 4 seem to be working excellently. I wont know about the other 3 until my next rig is completed, but I am very satisfied with the cables and the service I received. Thanks Joe!

[OneMINER]

 I recently ordered a cable from https://cablesaurus.com/ . I waited patiantly for as long as I could (a bit more than a week) and then decided something was wrong. I wrote an email asking what was up. Joe got back to me quickly and when he was satisfied that something had gone wrong sent out another package express mail. A few days go by and then one package shows up, followed by the other a day after that.

Here is the point. Joe knew that he had sent the first package. His part of the deal was done with. But because he knew that something was up he made sure that I was going to get what I paid for. Now its obvious that there was a problem with the shipper but Joe went out of his way to make up for that. That is the reason to go with https://cablesaurus.com/ customer service.

10/10

[Cablesaurus]

Shakaru and myself are working together to investigate and resolve his issue, the source of the issue is not determined as to what variable was the root cause. Hundreds of all types of cables are currently in use by the mining community. There is no "statistical rate of failure" for any product, this would be an erroneous statement. Everyone's miners are unique and any investigation must be treated as such.

Please send all inquiries regarding placed orders to me at sales@cablesaurus.com. Be as specific and in depth as possible. Please know that as passing forum posts can sometimes be unfortunately missed or get buried under subsequent posts, at this time the only guaranteed method of obtaining an order inquiry response will be to submit communication via e-mail or PM.

(For general product information, the forum and e-mail are both great tools for myself or other helpful folks in the community to point you in the right direction on what you may need.)

As many can attest I have every desire to help with customer questions. For everyone's benefit I must standardize in order to accurately track time sensitive communication. Please rest assured you will receive prompt attention.

Thanks much!

[Cablesaurus]

Announcement:
Working on adding the following new products and updating pictures on www.cablesaurus.com, pictures will start going up today. Some highlights:

PCI->PCIe Converter Card (Yes, this will run your card at full speed converted from a PCI slot. You can even use an extender between this riser and your GPU!)
PCIe x4 Extender Cables
PCIe x4 -> x16 Adapter Extender Cables
PCIe x4 -> x16 Adapter Extender Cables w/ Molex
PCIe x8 Extender Cables
PCIe x8 -> x16 Adapter Extender Cables
PCIe x8 -> x16 Adapter Extender Cables w/ Molex
Dual PSU Dummy Plugs
Dual PSU Adapter Cables
PSU Adapter Cables (Molex -> PCIe, SATA -> PCIe, 2xMolex -> PCIe)
Kill-a-Watt Meters
High Power Fans
DVI Dummy Plugs

Please bear with the site for a day or so, as I'm working to correct some things with the layout.

[Jen4538]

dual psu adapter cable i would have wanted with my purchase ,  i will have to wait now and see how much this costs to decide


Jen

[haploid23]

if i use 4 5870, would i still need a riser cable with the molex power? i know that's starting to push the limits

[Cablesaurus]

if i use 4 5870, would i still need a riser cable with the molex power? i know that's starting to push the limits

Hey haploid: With 4 no you would not. With 5+ it would be a good idea.

[haploid23]

if i use 4 5870, would i still need a riser cable with the molex power? i know that's starting to push the limits

Hey haploid: With 4 no you would not. With 5+ it would be a good idea.

well would it be a good idea to use the additional molex anyways? because these are one of the higher end 5xxx series, and i'll be overclocking them. is this one of those things that are "better safe than sorry?"

[Cablesaurus]

if i use 4 5870, would i still need a riser cable with the molex power? i know that's starting to push the limits

Hey haploid: With 4 no you would not. With 5+ it would be a good idea.

well would it be a good idea to use the additional molex anyways? because these are one of the higher end 5xxx series, and i'll be overclocking them. is this one of those things that are "better safe than sorry?"

Wouldn't be necessary in such a case. Only on the dual gpu cards such as 5970 and 6990 would a molex be necessary with just 4 cards running. With 4 5870 you'll be perfectly fine with the standard non molex adapters on your rig.

[Jack of Diamonds]

Was promised 7-10 days shipping time for latest cable order,
arrived in 4 (standard shipping, no express this time)

Can't recommend Cablesaurus enough. Products work without issues.

[Cablesaurus]

Lots of new products are now live and purchasable in the store. I'm still working on pictures, they're coming soon.
Dual PSU cables, x4/8 cables of all types (adapters & with molex), and more.

[Cablesaurus]

I'm adding 48v power supplies for the newly added fans today.
There is also a new model of rack mountable mining case being released, the previous model is being discontinued. More details to follow.

[dishwara]

I would suggest you, guys, to sell your products here.
If you have a lot of products, we could make good discount

Feel free to ask!

Cablesaurus already has his own website beside this forum to sell his products.
Why he need to PAY & sell his products in wesellrigs?

[fitty]

I would suggest you, guys, to sell your products here.
If you have a lot of products, we could make good discount

Feel free to ask!

Cablesaurus already has his own website beside this forum to sell his products.
Why he need to PAY & sell his products in wesellrigs?

Ignore him. He spams every thread trying to promo his site.

[dishwara]

ok

[vivithemage]

Rock on, thanks...needed some 1x to 16x and 16x expanders!

[AngelusWebDesign]

I've bought from them several times, and always been satisfied with my purchases.

My cables work great!

I've purchased the 1-->16 and 16-->16 cables (w/o molex connector)

[mimarob]

work great!

[niooron]

Purchased 2 cables, orders 13 and 76, one with the cheapest international shipment and the other with the expensive option.
Order 13 never arrived and it has been over a month now. I guess it just got lost. The other one arrived well.

So if you live in south america, always go for the quality shipment!

[Cablesaurus]

Niroon, PMed you to resolve any outstanding issues you have. Check your PMs. Thanks.

[Big Time Coin]

Just wanted to say Thanks!  I had three orders through cablesaurus for a total around $500.  Always came through quick on the shipping and replacements for two cables I couldn't get to work.

[CentroniX]

Can't say enough good things... I've made several orders, had immediate shipping on each, and was happily able to complete the entire transaction in BTC.

Will be doing more business for sure!

cent

[mik3]

Just received my extender, works perfect, 3rd video card runnin mighty fine!

[mikeo]

Great service!

[Morebitcoinsplease]

I bought several items from them mainly the PCI-E extenders for the past couple of months and they are excellent, fast shipping and all their products worked perfectly. 

[Cablesaurus]

How do I buy?

NaturalOrder8: Check out www.cablesaurus.com

[RyNinDaCleM]

I liked these cables so much, I made a second order! Got two more 1x--1x this time. Very fast delivery, and great communication!
Thanks Cablesaurus! 

[swusc2]

Forgot to post a review about my cable Cablesaurus purchase of (2x) x16->x16 extenders and (2x) x1->x16 extenders about a month ago.

First shipment got held up with USPS (it was USPS fault), Cablesaurus response was quick and he sent me another set of cables that came as scheduled. The first set found its way to me a couple days later and I decided I was going to use both sets anyways and paid Cablesaurus an invoice for the second set.

Great and speedy customer service. Products worked well.

[gmannn]

bought 2 x1 extenders and a pci-pcix adapter.  Fast shipping and easy BTC payment.  Thanks!!

[flyswatta]

Hey, Cablesaurus!

I'm thinking... make this product sized so that people in standard ATX 19" cases can squeeze 3x proper gfx cards on a mobo with 1x PCIe x16 and 2x PCIe x1.

This would mean working very hard to minimize the required lower clearance between connector and card. From the images you're putting out currently, what you've got works nicely with a 5U chassis.... WHICH IS NOT ACCEPTABLE

Any chance of an extremely slim left-angle board that would allow the adapted card to plug into an adapter crammed between a PCI and a PCIe slot?

any word on this?  I'd like one or two!

[niooron]

Got a refund, now i'll use only shipment with tracking options.

[AngelusWebDesign]

I'm a bit disappointed in Cablesaurus.

I must say, for a business that depends on the Bitcoin mining world, they don't seem to be doing much to promote direct Bitcoin spending.

They are only paying 12.14 for BTC, when the Mt. Gox price is actually 13.51!

So they're giving you 90% of the actual value of your BTC.

Sure, they accept Bitcoins -- but they should be PROMOTING Bitcoin use by giving you 105% or 110% of their value -- not 90%!

WRONG. DIRECTION.

I'm sure many others besides me have said this -- if we business owners want to be free of the shackles of Visa/MC/Paypal, we're going to have to help Bitcoin off the ground. Giving customers 10% off would go a long way toward that goal.

Not charging them 10% more!  People will never use Bitcoins if every business does this. I actually mine BTC, but I'd never spend them if I got 10% less goods with them vs. cash.

[CanaryInTheMine]

I'm a bit disappointed in Cablesaurus.

I must say, for a business that depends on the Bitcoin mining world, they don't seem to be doing much to promote direct Bitcoin spending.

They are only paying 12.14 for BTC, when the Mt. Gox price is actually 13.51!

So they're giving you 90% of the actual value of your BTC.

Sure, they accept Bitcoins -- but they should be PROMOTING Bitcoin use by giving you 105% or 110% of their value -- not 90%!

WRONG. DIRECTION.

I'm sure many others besides me have said this -- if we business owners want to be free of the shackles of Visa/MC/Paypal, we're going to have to help Bitcoin off the ground. Giving customers 10% off would go a long way toward that goal.

Not charging them 10% more!  People will never use Bitcoins if every business does this. I actually mine BTC, but I'd never spend them if I got 10% less goods with them vs. cash.

I think they're hedging against currency fluctuations... this is the easiest way to "protect" against a drop. but, don't take this as me defending them...

[marcus_of_augustus]

I'm a bit disappointed in Cablesaurus.

I must say, for a business that depends on the Bitcoin mining world, they don't seem to be doing much to promote direct Bitcoin spending.

They are only paying 12.14 for BTC, when the Mt. Gox price is actually 13.51!

So they're giving you 90% of the actual value of your BTC.

Sure, they accept Bitcoins -- but they should be PROMOTING Bitcoin use by giving you 105% or 110% of their value -- not 90%!

WRONG. DIRECTION.

I'm sure many others besides me have said this -- if we business owners want to be free of the shackles of Visa/MC/Paypal, we're going to have to help Bitcoin off the ground. Giving customers 10% off would go a long way toward that goal.

Not charging them 10% more!  People will never use Bitcoins if every business does this. I actually mine BTC, but I'd never spend them if I got 10% less goods with them vs. cash.

Bad form whinging here. Start your own service if you don't like it ....

[simonk83]

Sent them an email earlier asking if they'd be willing to post me a cable via Fedex or UPS rather than USPS as I'm in a pretty big hurry for one (USPS is very flaky when delivering to Australia).   Fingers crossed they can help me out

[dovewing2000]

Can someone explain to me what the SATA -> 6-Pin PCIe Adapter Cable does? I do mean... when i plug in a graphics card then it powers up...? Or am i misunderstanding the explaination? since I thought graphics cards needs to be plugged into the mobo to work...?

[simonk83]

Sent them an email earlier asking if they'd be willing to post me a cable via Fedex or UPS rather than USPS as I'm in a pretty big hurry for one (USPS is very flaky when delivering to Australia).   Fingers crossed they can help me out

Well, can't fault the service I received    More than willing to help me out with various options after many an email back and forth.   Thanks a lot guys, great to see

[dishwara]

Can someone explain to me what the SATA -> 6-Pin PCIe Adapter Cable does? I do mean... when i plug in a graphics card then it powers up...? Or am i misunderstanding the explaination? since I thought graphics cards needs to be plugged into the mobo to work...?

SATA ->6 Pin PCIe cable helps you draw power from SATA male connector which comes with PSU.
PSU->SATA male -> SATA female ->6 Pin PCIe ->12v

[dovewing2000]

Thanks for the info!

On a different note,

Thank you for the fast refund - i originally ordered a pci 1x to pci 16x cable but found out i didn't need it and so i sent out an email to see if i can cancel. quick refund and turn around!

[BrianH]

Great service, fast shipping, solid communication. Cables work great -thanks!

[navigator]

This place is awesome!

great communication, fast shipping, good packaging, quality cables, decent prices

[Cablesaurus]

We are pleased to annouce that x1->x16, x4->x16, x8->x16 adapter cables are now offered as fully slotted cables, as opposed to machine cut modified, for the same price as always. Check out the front page of this thread for all the new pictures and links.

[STP]

Ordered a couple days ago using bitcoin as payment and got my extenders today  Thanks Cablesaurus!

[mb300sd]

Are you having these custom made? Would there be a possiblity of getting a PCIe x1 to PCI-X converter? Its not bitcoin related but I do need one for a RAID controller.

[mautobu]

Excellent Service. I ordered from Canada and USPS did not update for 4 weeks. I let Joe of Cablesaurus know about it, and he offered to ship me replacements, only charging shipping. Later the same day I check my mail, and there they were. I quickly let him know that they had arrived, and was given a refund for the shipping I had earlier paid.

Excellent retailer, recommended.

[Cablesaurus]

Are you having these custom made? Would there be a possiblity of getting a PCIe x1 to PCI-X converter? Its not bitcoin related but I do need one for a RAID controller.

I'll definitely check into this for you and send you a PM.

[ultraimports]

I would like to just add a "props" to Cablesaurus:

I made a very normal, and small order for a product, but for some reason the product sent to me was incorrect. I contacted them on their website and they immediately sent me a response informing me of the corrective actions, and even going above and beyond IMO by sending a pre-paid envelope to return the wrong item.

I figured I'd give info to those out there to know how these folks handle customer service when mistakes are made. Great job!

[eskamobob1]

hello,

i have a few questions about these cables... would i be able to plug the x1 PCIe -> x1 PCIe entender into a x16 port and still have the same OCing capability? or would that decrease my OC... also, you say that the extensions with the molex cable is for dual GPU cards and systems running more than 4 GPUs... without the molex cable on a 5 GPU system would the power be unstable? or what is the point if all the cards require additional power cables as well?

thank you in advance

[BitPorium]

hello,

i have a few questions about these cables... would i be able to plug the x1 PCIe -> x1 PCIe entender into a x16 port and still have the same OCing capability? or would that decrease my OC... also, you say that the extensions with the molex cable is for dual GPU cards and systems running more than 4 GPUs... without the molex cable on a 5 GPU system would the power be unstable? or what is the point if all the cards require additional power cables as well?

thank you in advance

I use the 1x cables in my rig and have no difference in oc capacity. All my 5830's run at 950mhz regardless of x1 or x16 bandwidth. Also, I have my main rig with 5x 5830, each pulls about 150w, just make sure that your mother board can handle it. I am using a msi-890fxa-gd65 and it has an extra power connector on the board just for the pcie slots. I had 6 cards at one time but I had to sell off my 1500w psu and now have to use dual 700w.

[Cablesaurus]

New 3300W capacity domestic and international watt meters are going up today.

I've also added a wide variety of PSU adapter cables shielded and non shielded, both Molex and SATA -> PCIe 6/8p.

350W 48V power supplies have been added for the 48V 4000RPM 200CFM Sunon fans. Each PSU can power 18 of the Sunon case fans. Check out www.cablesaurus.com for the new items.

[Jointops420]

I am late getting this in after getting my orders to Australia. Everything arrived fast and in good condition. Be careful of handling the cables I broke 2 of them being to hard on them when I was trying multiple configs of hardware, thats was the only problem and caused by my impatience.

[Cablesaurus]

Jointops: Send me an e-mail to sales@cablesaurus.com and we can arrange a replacement for you as well if you damaged the cable somehow.

[Cablesaurus]

2 new Watt Meters (or Kill-a-Watts) are in stock. 3000W capacity both int'l and domestic types available.

[hdfxst]

have done 2 orders with cablesaurus and both orders went well,fast shipping and communication.Would definitely recommend.

[SuperTramp]

Bought a few ribbon extender/adapter cables from this guy. Top notch service all the way !!

Thanks again Cablesaurus !!

[Cablesaurus]

I'd like to announce 2 new products I'm adding to the site today:

* Motherboard Ethernet Jumper Panel Extenders over CAT5.
I'm really excited about these.
These are power/reset switch extenders which allow you connect jumpers to your motherboard and run an ethernet cable from the module to any desired location for the actual switches.
This is a great product for folks who's miners are in inconvenient to reach locations such as basements, local datacenters, server closets, etc. You will now be able to control power/reset from a more convenient location without having to approach the rig.

* PSU Dummy Plugs
Dummy Plugs made to safely allow powering on of 2 or more power supplies without the need for splitter. Especially useful if you're using more than 2 PSU's on one rig.

I'm working on getting pictures together today and these will be posted to the site and the eBay store shortly.

[Cablesaurus]

We're now on Facebook!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cablesauruscom/218349794880384

[Reckman]

I'd like to announce 2 new products I'm adding to the site today:

* Motherboard Ethernet Jumper Panel Extenders over CAT5.
I'm really excited about these.
These are power/reset switch extenders which allow you connect jumpers to your motherboard and run an ethernet cable from the module to any desired location for the actual switches.
This is a great product for folks who's miners are in inconvenient to reach locations such as basements, local datacenters, server closets, etc. You will now be able to control power/reset from a more convenient location without having to approach the rig.

Are these up yet?

[dishwara]

A lot of new products to buy..................

[Philj]

That sunon fan is listed at 48V, how does that work with a normal ATX power supply, or am I missing something? (not all that familiar with converting voltage etc)

[stapler117]

That sunon fan is listed at 48V, how does that work with a normal ATX power supply, or am I missing something? (not all that familiar with converting voltage etc)

This:

Regulated Switching 350W 48V 7.8A Power Supply
$44.95 or B5.37
https://cablesaurus.com/bmz_cache/8/8c741dc8b06f47a204a075e6ed06a1bb.image.200x150.jpg
* Brand New
* Model S-350-48
* 48V
* 350W

BTW Cablesaurus, those power, reset, and status led extenders are brilliant.

[Cablesaurus]

Thanks

[mb300sd]

Product suggestion, if you can get something like this for cheap,

http://www.amfeltec.com/products/x4pcie-splitter4.php

An x16 to 16 x1 splitter would be amazing! I'm sure you'd sell hundreds...

[Cablesaurus]

Product suggestion, if you can get something like this for cheap,

http://www.amfeltec.com/products/x4pcie-splitter4.php

An x16 to 16 x1 splitter would be amazing! I'm sure you'd sell hundreds...

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll check into these again and see what I can provide.

[bitcoindaddy]

I bought some PCIe x16 Extender Cables, initially just to improve my cooling situation and then later perhaps to add a fourth card to my Intel based ASUS P6X58D-E motherboard. I spent hours building an aluminum frame and finally setup everything. I tried several times to get the system working but it was unstable. It would run for a couple minutes then hang, even before starting any poclbm processes. None of the PCIe cables were touching each other.

I put everything back the way it was (without the cables) and everything was back to normal. I do overclock my cards, but don't overvolt them. I did not try to lower the clock speeds because that would defeat the purpose. I'm writing this not to complain, the cables were top quality as far as I could tell, but to warn others that it's not a "slam dunk". You may run into issues like I did.

I have a second miner with AMD 890FXA-GD70 motherboard where the cards have a comfortable spacing (air gap) already, without the need for cables.

Is there anything I should have tried before I gave up?

[stapler117]

Is there anything I should have tried before I gave up?

If you got the x1 to x16, did you short the presence detection pins?

edit:
http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=42
http://blog.zorinaq.com/images/pcie-short-schematic.png
http://blog.zorinaq.com/images/pcie-short-photo.jpg

[what@3]

Well if anyone is interested ~90% of the items Cableasurus is selling he's most likely purchasing from 9mart.com.

I've make MANY purchase from 9mart, every single thing I've gotten has worked perfectly

all of the items I'm about to post are $9.00 for 2 of each item and include FREE shipping


2 Lots PCI-E PCIe PCI-Express 1X To 16X Riser Card

http://tinyurl.com/3jaxwkn  $9.00 for 2

or $14.95 for 1 from Cablesaurus ??

2 Lots PCI-E PCIe PCI-Express 4x To 16x Riser Card for 1U/2U Chassis

http://tinyurl.com/3gq8lyw

2 Lots PCI-Express Extension Cable 8x To 16x Riser Card For 1U/2U

or $14.95 for 1 from Cablesaurus ??

http://tinyurl.com/3dcsbw8

or $14.95 for 1 from Cablesaurus ??

2 Lots PCI-E PCI-Express 16x Riser Card Extender Cable 1U 2U

http://tinyurl.com/3t9jmwp

or $12.95 for 1 from Cablesaurus ??

These next items go for 4 (qty) for $9.00

4 lots of SATA To 6 Pins Graphics Power cable Adapter

http://tinyurl.com/3zswask

I just don't see the logic in spending $9.95 for 1 SATA -> 6-Pin PCIe Shielded Adapter Cable from the cableausrus dealer, when the items are the exact same things. Also 9mart just recently had to add watermarks over all their items, I wonder why..... Isn't it strange how similar the graphics are.


Now, I do notice that for and Additional $12 you'll solder a Molex for 12V straight to the card. This service is realistically worth $5, it is worth doing if you're running 4 or more cards on a board but absolutely not worth the +$100 Cablesuarus ( assuming you did popular your mobo w/ 4 pcie-x16 riser w/ molex )is charging. So, do you solder the ribbons to the pcb's got any pics of your operation? Yes he also supports the bitcoin economy by accepting BTC's but that's also what exchanges are for.  As far as shipping from hong Kong is concerned, I live on the East coast ( US ) it has always taken 8 to 10 days and that's with free shipping

Another post on this forum regarding the same subject matter

http://tinyurl.com/3wnuccr

IMO get some more realistic prices, in every imaginable case it would in up costing the consumer less to wait the additional time and not mine at all until than item arrive from hong kong.  Anyone can feel free to PM me for price quote for a molex plug to raiser soldering service.
 

[bitcoindaddy]

Is there anything I should have tried before I gave up?

If you got the x1 to x16, did you short the presence detection pins?

As I said in my post, I bought the PCIe x16 Extender Cables, not the x1 to x16.

[Cablesaurus]

Bitcoindaddy: It sounds as if your cards may be underpowered by your motherboard. Drop me an e-mail to sales@cablesaurus.com and I'll help diagnose your situation.

[Jointops420]

Highly recommended, even offered to replace parts I had damaged myself.

[navigator]

Can I use a 1x to 16x adapter cable as a riser cable for a 16x slot?

[Cablesaurus]

Hi navigator, no you would typically, on most motherboards, need to utilize an x16 cable to properly extend from the native x16 slot. ( https://cablesaurus.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=9&zenid=0f8954c0d376c6cdc37050ed6cfbfc0a )

[navigator]

Thanks for the info!

[Bitcraft]

This seller rocks! Shipping and customer service are top notch!

[Cablesaurus]

Dual FPGA X6500 mining board info: http://cablesaurus.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=10&products_id=56&zenid=ghlo03rb717f21utnh4nheo6d5

[Cablesaurus]

Bump for view

[rot]

Dont buy from him rip off prices he gets his stuff from dealextreme then charges you 4 times as much.

[TheHarbinger]

Dont buy from him rip off prices he gets his stuff from dealextreme then charges you 4 times as much.

Well, it's not quite four times as much...

But a 300% markup, just to pay in BTC isn't really helping either.   

[Cablesaurus]

Not quite fellas, but I appreciate the free bump.

[Cablesaurus]

We're working as hard as we can to get more FPGAs in stock for those checking in!

We're hoping to be on schedule for about a 2, maybe 3 week time frame.

Also check out the new shopping cart setup at www.cablesaurus.com - we've been working to make the navigating experience a lot easier and hope it works smoothly for everyone.

[DBordello]

Do you have 1x extenders with molex adapters?  http://cablesaurus.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=28&zenid=4ju314m34i9oer1ua0i3ljn1e0 appears to be the link, but it is dead. 

I assume they can accommodate a 16x card?

[Cablesaurus]

Do you have 1x extenders with molex adapters?  http://cablesaurus.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=28&zenid=4ju314m34i9oer1ua0i3ljn1e0 appears to be the link, but it is dead. 

I assume they can accommodate a 16x card?

http://cablesaurus.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=28

Hi there we sure do. There is the updated link, I'll get that corrected in this thread. Thanks for your message.

[Cablesaurus]

Bump for view.

[Cablesaurus]

*Dusts off the ole' thread*

Hello everyone! Just wanted to pop in to mention our site, but more importantly I'm in need of some feedback from you guys.

Is there anything specific miners might like to see added to www.Cablesaurus.com? Any ideas are welcome, especially for items you all may be using already but might be having a hard time getting delivered on time. We still ship everything as fast as possible direct from the USA. We'd like to get a handle on what's missing that you'd like to see in the shop.

Historically I've carried PSU splitter cables, GPU dummy plugs, and various PCI extenders. However I've ran out of stock on several items recently, and thought it would be best to pan for ideas for what gear you guys think would be most utilized in today's Bitcoin landscape.

Any and all suggestions are welcome!

Endless thanks for the fantastic support we have received from the community over the last two years everyone, it's been a true blessing.

- Cablesaurus

[ssateneth]

1x > 1x PCI-E cables, but with the data-side filed off to be open-ended to allow plugging in cards wider than 1x, such as graphics cards. They are electrically the same as 1x > 16x but cheaper and much easier to plug into a graphics card. See this picture. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9768004/risermod.jpg
PCI-E to PCI-E power plug splitters, such as this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812198018
Supplementary 12v power that plugs directly into an available PCI-E slot, such as this product. http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=100-MB-PB01-BR
Lower prices.

[Cablesaurus]

1x > 1x PCI-E cables, but with the data-side filed off to be open-ended to allow plugging in cards wider than 1x, such as graphics cards. They are electrically the same as 1x > 16x but cheaper and much easier to plug into a graphics card.
PCI-E to PCI-E power plug splitters, such as this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812198018
Lower prices.

I'll have to dig out the dremel & dust mask again and see if that can be taken into account. The manually modified cables were more versatile, if a bit ugly and messy.

Thanks for the advice

[ssateneth]

Also supplementary 12v power that plugs into an available PCI-E power slot. Avoids the need to modify many riser cables to add 12v power from molex. See http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=100-MB-PB01-BR

[BBQKorv]

I'm also interested on PCI-E 1x -> 1x risers with molex power connector. Doesn't matter if the slot is filed to accept 16x GPU because I can also do that easily.

Btw, is it enough to use only one powered riser per mobo thus meaning the power will be distributed to the rest of PCI-E bus by mobo or should I use all powered risers?
My config would be 2 X 16x risers + 2 X 1x risers, totaling 4 GPUs.

What is the actual limit on how many high-end (7970) GPUs should I use on one mobo without powered risers?

[Cablesaurus]

I'm also interested on PCI-E 1x -> 1x risers with molex power connector. Doesn't matter if the slot is filed to accept 16x GPU because I can also do that easily.

Btw, is it enough to use only one powered riser per mobo thus meaning the power will be distributed to the rest of PCI-E bus by mobo or should I use all powered risers?
My config would be 2 X 16x risers + 2 X 1x risers, totaling 4 GPUs.

What is the actual limit on how many high-end (7970) GPUs should I use on one mobo without powered risers?

You should use a powered riser on each high end GPU. On systems were you're running older cards, aim to use powered risers once you get past 3 cards.

[Cablesaurus]

Cablesaurus.com now accepts Litecoin! Thank for your support everyone, it's most appreciated.

[pekv2]

Cablesaurus.com now accepts Litecoin! Thank for your support everyone, it's most appreciated.

Wicked!

[pekv2]

Just ordered PCIe x1 -> x16 Adapter Extender Cable w/ Molex Connector with litecoins, process went quick and painless. Thanks, Cablesaurus.

[zif33rs]

Just ordered PCIe x1 -> x16 Adapter Extender Cable w/ Molex Connector with litecoins, process went quick and painless. Thanks, Cablesaurus.

Just ordered 2 myself.    https://blockchain.info/tx/7c13da9193bd36f6d276dfa179a09e65a3bb80cea972db14325ce1bc435ae945

[biganth]

Cablesaurus.com now accepts Litecoin! Thank for your support everyone, it's most appreciated.

Just ordered your last 7 powered cables but need 9 more. When will you have more?

[pekv2]

And also, not in a hurry or rush, don't even have a third card to mine on yet but, my order status is still pending, is everything ok?

[diatonic]

I ordered 2 days ago and paid with Litecoin. My order still shows "pending." I also emailed yesterday that I needed a couple more things and haven't heard back. What's going on?

[Cablesaurus]

We sent out over 500 cables yesterday and today when inventory arrived in. Thanks everyone for your patience and support and if anyone has any questions I missed please PM or e-mail me at sales@cablesaurus.com. Thanks all.

[innervisi0nn]

just paid for 6 via LTC and paid for express shipping..please confirm


http://explorer.litecoin.net/address/LKGJnxck8ZpPxMLBMN2cwAgTWo8TaqLsEg

[Cablesaurus]

Hi there,

Thanks for your order, confirmed received.

[pekv2]

Arrived wonderfully packaged, sealed and quickly.

Thanks, Cablesaurus.

[zif33rs]

As ordered. No problems. Excellent service.


Thanks Joe!

zif

[bcpokey]

Just a question about the status of cables

Item title: PCIe x16 Extender Cable w/ Molex Connector (Back-Ordered)
Availability: In Stock

Is it back ordered or in stock?

[go4gonzo]

Just placed an order with you. I'm really excited. My username is in the comments section of the order.

thank you.

[go4gonzo]

Just placed an order with you. I'm really excited. My username is in the comments section of the order.

thank you.

Cablesaurus, just emailed you back. Still no confirmation email. can you please verify that you received payment? thanks.

[Cablesaurus]

Cablesaurus, just emailed you back. Still no confirmation email. can you please verify that you received payment? thanks.

Hi Go4Gonzo,

Missed your post here, my apologies, I believe we caught up via e-mail but if any questions let me know.

Thanks, Joe

[clipcoins]

Just did a trade with Cablesaurus...very quick and honest....highly recommended. 

[Cablesaurus]

I'd like to thank everyone in the community for their extreme understanding over the last few weeks. In early May I was affected by a stock shortage and increasing supply delays. Many folks stood by me with unfathomable patience while I kept as many as I could up to date in the interim.

In the wake of this I've disabled "Pre-Ordering" on all future orders, so if you see it in stock in the store, it will be ready to go out within 1-2 business days. Currently we do have some extra x16 w/ Molex; and PSU Adapter cables available in-stock.

All orders are now shipped and tracking updates should be posting. If you have a question or issue, or if anything has been missed, please PM or e-mail me directly at sales@cablesaurus.com.

Thanks again for your support!

- Joe Robinson
Cablesaurus.com

[go4gonzo]

I'd like to thank everyone in the community for their extreme understanding over the last few weeks. In early May I was affected by a stock shortage and increasing supply delays. Many folks stood by me with unfathomable patience while I kept as many as I could up to date in the interim.

In the wake of this I've disabled "Pre-Ordering" on all future orders, so if you see it in stock in the store, it will be ready to go out within 1-2 business days. Currently we do have some extra x16 w/ Molex; and PSU Adapter cables available in-stock.

All orders are now shipped and tracking updates should be posting. If you have a question or issue, or if anything has been missed, please PM or e-mail me directly at sales@cablesaurus.com.

Thanks again for your support!

- Joe Robinson
Cablesaurus.com

Thanks! Can't wait...