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June 12, 2014, 01:00:12 AM
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DEV we need quick Halves, other wise Multipool will keep dumping their coins until pow period ends...


you can also check dark thread, at first the reward is 500coin then reduce to 25 coins after they realised the Multipool dumping.

similar thing happened with XC coin. they ends their mining period soon after they realized Multipool keep dumping

Further more, POS mining is a more greener  way for coin distribution, it do not need GPU cards and waste electricity!

what's the meaning of pow period?

Halves block reward to 64 coins, Please..
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June 12, 2014, 01:05:54 AM
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DEV we need quick Halves, other wise Multipool will keep dumping their coins until pow period ends...


you can also check dark thread, at first the reward is 500coin then reduce to 25 coins after they realised the Multipool dumping.

similar thing happened with XC coin. they ends their mining period soon after they realized Multipool keep dumping

Further more, POS mining is a more greener  way for coin distribution, it do not need GPU cards and waste electricity!

what's the meaning of pow period?

Halves block reward to 64 coins, Please..

Makes certain sense...
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June 12, 2014, 01:07:51 AM
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Please First Halve the block reward to 256 coin this week..
Then Halve the block reward to 128coins next week..
Then Halve the block reward to 64coins and keep the block reward fixed @64 coin or 32coins

 Grin


Sorry we will not change the spec without any critical issues...

NO offends dev. truly community are much appreciated for what you have done!

but

1: do you realized Multipool control 3/4 of the everyday total coins(Last night they controled 9/10 of the everyday mined coin)

Check this Pool Hashrate: 4,060.93 MH/s
Pool Workers: 30
Net Hashrate: 17,399.91 MH/s (about 12G come from Multipool...)

2: do your see the big dump on Bittrex.

we can still keep the coin total amount fixed, but Please reduce the block reward more quicker than original plan.

otherwise Multipool will keep dumping supercoin everyday is the next 3 month!
what's the meaning of this???  Wink
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I agree with dev. But on the other hand, what you said makes sense too.

                                 
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June 12, 2014, 01:11:20 AM
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DEV we need quick Halves, other wise Multipool will keep dumping their coins until pow period ends...


you can also check dark thread, at first the reward is 500coin then reduce to 25 coins after they realised the Multipool dumping.

similar thing happened with XC coin. they ends their mining period soon after they realized Multipool keep dumping

Further more, POS mining is a more greener  way for coin distribution, it do not need GPU cards and waste electricity!

what's the meaning of pow period?

Halves block reward to 64 coins, Please..

I agree with dev, this is a credibility issue. You can't launch a coin, giving certain parameters, and when it went well, in the middle, you say, ok, let's cut the supply by half, and increase the value for those who already hold it. This is more a cheating to me, and will damage the long-term future of the coin.

Because several month ago we do not have Multipool keep dumping coins.

Check Dark Vericoin XC Thread...

they all do some change after they realized Multipool problem...
we all hope supercoin has a bright future, all dev and community can discuss this together.
 Grin
we have a great community, so we can have some serious discussions.
thanks Grin
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June 12, 2014, 01:12:54 AM
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provenceday, yes I kinda agree with you now, it makes sense...
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June 12, 2014, 01:14:08 AM
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DEV we need quick Halves, other wise Multipool will keep dumping their coins until pow period ends...


you can also check dark thread, at first the reward is 500coin then reduce to 25 coins after they realised the Multipool dumping.

similar thing happened with XC coin. they ends their mining period soon after they realized Multipool keep dumping

Further more, POS mining is a more greener  way for coin distribution, it do not need GPU cards and waste electricity!

what's the meaning of pow period?

Halves block reward to 64 coins, Please..

Makes certain sense...

POW do make some sense, but nowdays big Multipool have controled most of the coins every supply.
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June 12, 2014, 01:16:26 AM
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provenceday, yes I kinda agree with you now, it makes sense...

thanks for you support dude.

i posted it last night:

dev which pool has these hash rate?

Net Hashrate: 18,667.22 MH/s

it seems some multipools are mining this coin now and they get most of the coin!
similar thing happens with XC mining period...

It's wafflepool multipool i guess, they recently started X11 algo multipool. http://www.wafflepool.com/stats/x11 you can see supercoin has %36 average there. Because we have a fair system for miners nobody can benefit more than other miners. And soon or late when we become successful and popular crypto we will be  on all multipools, it's inescapable.
 

dev if you change the dark or xc or vrc thread, you will  find when they realise the Multipool, they all change the block reward or end the pow period early or reduce the block reward quickly or turn to pure pos coin.

We are SUPERcoin, we can handle all these...

thanks for your confident, we can watch this, if big Multipool do big harm with supercoin, we can really make some change.

ps: ordinary miner can not get the coins now, most of the coin were mined by Multipool now.... Roll Eyes

http://super.pool.mn/ looks has amount hashing power enough to find blocks...
Small miners should use such pools in our list.
also we have a plan on doing our own multipool payment with SUPER.

It looks they found many blocks today... So relax, also appearing in some multipools as a SUPERcoin in their list has some slightly advertising our coin, because they only mine most profitable ones... Also some wise miners will mine it seperately because if they know our halve plan and heard our anonymous wallet project they will mine it separately.

47879   Confirmed   teunhol666   11/06/2014 16:58:39   289.1034   512.00    74,010   8,054   10.88
47845   Confirmed   mucalov   11/06/2014 16:50:02   215.0782   512.00    55,060   9,627   17.48
47808   Confirmed   Pisscat101   11/06/2014 16:39:12   295.8534   512.00    75,738   25,470   33.63
47719   Confirmed   Pisscat101   11/06/2014 16:12:15   282.6545   512.00    72,360   37,766   52.19
47581   Confirmed   Pisscat101   11/06/2014 15:36:21   248.9754   512.00    63,738   28,966   45.45
47516   Confirmed   keepwalking1234   11/06/2014 15:18:13   245.1410   512.00    62,756   101,739   162.12
47261   Confirmed   anonymous   11/06/2014 14:14:58   191.0815   512.00    48,917   34,701   70.94
47215   Confirmed   keepwalking1234   11/06/2014 13:57:46   253.0347   512.00    64,777   164,037   253.23
46965   Confirmed   keepwalking1234   11/06/2014 12:20:52   286.1010   512.00    73,242   159,596   217.90
46699   Confirmed   keepwalking1234   11/06/2014 10:24:19   207.4200   512.00    53,100   7,185   13.53
46683   Confirmed   keepwalking1234   11/06/2014 10:18:24   209.1238   512.00    53,536   60,707   113.39
46586   Confirmed   keepwalking1234   11/06/2014 09:33:10   237.4289   512.00    60,782   25,241   41.53
46549   Confirmed   keepwalking1234   11/06/2014 09:14:57   195.1354   512.00    49,955   42,264   84.60
46476   Confirmed   keepwalking1234   11/06/2014 08:44:43   200.1355   512.00    51,235   138,619   270.56


Pool Hashrate: 279.45 MH/s
Pool Workers: 24
Net Hashrate: 11,321.37 MH/s

so Multipool has more than 11G hash rate on supercoin?
ordinary miner just get 1/50 of all the mining coins.
usually when pow ends, we can set a Multipool?
No he uses only about 33% of 11 Ghash in total. But there maybe out there few other multipools,
I think saying 1 to 50 is not good ratio. But it can be, it has a potential risk.

It looks as a good plan as soon as ending PoW starting a multipool payment with SUPER. But i don't think it's an easy decision, and no personally expect any sooner than one month before we go to PoS or even start working on it.

First thing is first we complete SUPER Anonymous Wallet and can see in the future what else we can do after this.




thanks for your quick reply dev.
i have engaged with altcoin more than one years, have seen so many good coins just killed by Multipool.
i do hope supercoin has a bright future, because we are super!

From my altcoin experience, there are 2 things are really bad for altcoin.

First is coin inflation, because everyday if we have 0.3 Million supercoin, if the price hit 10K satoshi, you will need 30BTC buying support, that's ok with current circumstances, but if the price hit 100K satoshi, you will need 300BTC support everyday, so it's impossible for nowdays coin, that's the reason why dark and XC and VRC coin has very low inflation. i also hope supercoin has a lower inflation.

Second is the Multipool, they will control everyday's coin supply, after they mined this coin, they will dump it soon for profit.

so based the two reasons, i would like to advice to reduce the block reward more quickly and keep the total amount fixed or also can reduce the total amount. otherwise the price is not maintainable.

so how about reduce the block reward every week and at some point keep it at a low block reward?

so now we have 512 coin block reward,
512--》256--》128--》64 ends (4 weeks)
or
512--》256--》128--》64--》32 ends.(5 weeks)

if we have a lower block reward, people would keep their coin for pos mining, it‘s a better way for coin distributing than Multipool control the coin supply.


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June 12, 2014, 01:21:10 AM
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DEV we need quick Halves, other wise Multipool will keep dumping their coins until pow period ends...


you can also check dark thread, at first the reward is 500coin then reduce to 25 coins after they realised the Multipool dumping.

similar thing happened with XC coin. they ends their mining period soon after they realized Multipool keep dumping

Further more, POS mining is a more greener  way for coin distribution, it do not need GPU cards and waste electricity!

what's the meaning of pow period?

Halves block reward to 64 coins, Please..

I understand your point and concerns, and we will seriously consider your proposal. We know this is what happened to XC and other coins. We will protect our community's best interests against multipools. The Supercoin dev team will make a decision on this matter. Thank you for your great support to us.

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June 12, 2014, 01:22:45 AM
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DEV we need quick Halves, other wise Multipool will keep dumping their coins until pow period ends...


you can also check dark thread, at first the reward is 500coin then reduce to 25 coins after they realised the Multipool dumping.

similar thing happened with XC coin. they ends their mining period soon after they realized Multipool keep dumping

Further more, POS mining is a more greener  way for coin distribution, it do not need GPU cards and waste electricity!

what's the meaning of pow period?

Halves block reward to 64 coins, Please..

I understand your point and concerns, and we will seriously consider your proposal. We know this is what happened to XC and other coins. We will protect the best of our community's interests against multipools. The Supercoin dev team will make a decision on this matter. Thank you for your great support to us.

Dev,Thank you very much! that's the reason:

thanks for your quick reply dev.
i have engaged with altcoin more than one years, have seen so many good coins just killed by Multipool.
i do hope supercoin has a bright future, because we are super!

From my altcoin experience, there are 2 things are really bad for altcoin.

First is coin inflation, because everyday if we have 0.3 Million supercoin, if the price hit 10K satoshi, you will need 30BTC buying support, that's ok with current circumstances, but if the price hit 100K satoshi, you will need 300BTC support everyday, so it's impossible for nowdays coin, that's the reason why dark and XC and VRC coin has very low inflation. i also hope supercoin has a lower inflation.

Second is the Multipool, they will control everyday's coin supply, after they mined this coin, they will dump it soon for profit.

so based the two reasons, i would like to advice to reduce the block reward more quickly and keep the total amount fixed or also can reduce the total amount. otherwise the price is not maintainable.

so how about reduce the block reward every week and at some point keep it at a low block reward?

so now we have 512 coin block reward,
512--》256--》128--》64 ends (4 weeks)
or
512--》256--》128--》64--》32 ends.(Multipool will not profitable any more and keep lower inflation also small miner will mine this coin)(5 weeks)

if we have a lower block reward, people would keep their coin for pos mining, it‘s a better and greener way for coin distributing than Multipool control the coin supply.
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June 12, 2014, 01:33:32 AM
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I can't even get the mac wallet to sync let alone send anon, Can someone please help me.  Ive added .conf file in application support folder but nothing wallet is offline. HELP

Please use these addnodes, they are from my peers:

addnode=173.170.158.80
addnode=188.2.24.46
addnode=103.6.85.64
addnode=173.230.139.11
addnode=162.243.226.39
addnode=74.105.241.83
addnode=188.126.72.244
addnode=95.150.136.118
addnode=38.126.94.60
addnode=62.210.141.191
addnode=198.1.59.33
addnode=5.250.177.24
addnode=37.187.144.69
addnode=115.28.162.137
addnode=70.123.187.172
addnode=14.18.203.37
addnode=85.25.201.132
addnode=14.18.243.55
addnode=192.99.3.15
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even in ordinary mining pool  http://super.pool.mn/, there is a Multipool mining at that place

Rank   Donor   User Name        KH/s                                       SCOIN/Day
1      anonymous             4,856,695   (4G hash rate)               118,981.305(0.1 Million perday)
2      keepwalking1234     41,565                                        1,018.284
3      windblow11             20,158                                        493.846
4      feckingidiot            19,552                                        478.992
5      maxti                   15,298                                        374.771



Pool Hashrate: 5,960.85 MH/s
Pool Workers: 33
Net Hashrate: 24,735.63 MH/s

so we have about 17G+4G=21G hashrate come from Multipool, so they control about 21G/24.7G= 85% everyday's coin supply and will dump their coin soon....

i hate this  Grin
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June 12, 2014, 01:43:22 AM
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http://www.super-coin.net/

dev Please  update the Anon features on the supercoin website.

people come from coinmarketcap will check our website.

thanks.


97    SuperCoin   $ 100,943   $ 0.010014   10,079,856 SUPER   $ 40,853   +131.05 %
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June 12, 2014, 02:38:16 AM
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DEV we need quick Halves, other wise Multipool will keep dumping their coins until pow period ends...


you can also check dark thread, at first the reward is 500coin then reduce to 25 coins after they realised the Multipool dumping.

similar thing happened with XC coin. they ends their mining period soon after they realized Multipool keep dumping

Further more, POS mining is a more greener  way for coin distribution, it do not need GPU cards and waste electricity!

what's the meaning of pow period?

Halves block reward to 64 coins, Please..

I understand your point and concerns, and we will seriously consider your proposal. We know this is what happened to XC and other coins. We will protect the best of our community's interests against multipools. The Supercoin dev team will make a decision on this matter. Thank you for your great support to us.

Dev,Thank you very much! that's the reason:

thanks for your quick reply dev.
i have engaged with altcoin more than one years, have seen so many good coins just killed by Multipool.
i do hope supercoin has a bright future, because we are super!

From my altcoin experience, there are 2 things are really bad for altcoin.

First is coin inflation, because everyday if we have 0.3 Million supercoin, if the price hit 10K satoshi, you will need 30BTC buying support, that's ok with current circumstances, but if the price hit 100K satoshi, you will need 300BTC support everyday, so it's impossible for nowdays coin, that's the reason why dark and XC and VRC coin has very low inflation. i also hope supercoin has a lower inflation.

Second is the Multipool, they will control everyday's coin supply, after they mined this coin, they will dump it soon for profit.

so based the two reasons, i would like to advice to reduce the block reward more quickly and keep the total amount fixed or also can reduce the total amount. otherwise the price is not maintainable.

so how about reduce the block reward every week and at some point keep it at a low block reward?

so now we have 512 coin block reward,
512--》256--》128--》64 ends (4 weeks)
or
512--》256--》128--》64--》32 ends.(Multipool will not profitable any more and keep lower inflation also small miner will mine this coin)(5 weeks)

if we have a lower block reward, people would keep their coin for pos mining, it‘s a better and greener way for coin distributing than Multipool control the coin supply.

good points
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June 12, 2014, 03:17:34 AM
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Sending with anonymous feature will become very easy, just click "anonymous send" checkbox before clicking the "send" button. It is the same user interface. Of course, you can also choose to use normal send if you want. No additional command-line command to use:


By the way, we will try to release the wallet with anon features for tests this weekend. Remember, for now we only allow the anon features in testnet for testing purpose. It will be the same client, so you can switch back and forth between formal SuperCoin network and testnet (just change the testnet=1 or 0 in config file and restart the qt client).


Very nice! looking forward to the new client.

wonderful news!
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June 12, 2014, 03:49:23 AM
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Sending with anonymous feature will become very easy, just click "anonymous send" checkbox before clicking the "send" button. It is the same user interface. Of course, you can also choose to use normal send if you want. No additional command-line command to use:


By the way, we will try to release the wallet with anon features for tests this weekend. Remember, for now we only allow the anon features in testnet for testing purpose. It will be the same client, so you can switch back and forth between formal SuperCoin network and testnet (just change the testnet=1 or 0 in config file and restart the qt client).


Very nice! looking forward to the new client.

wonderful news!

Yes I like this coin
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June 12, 2014, 04:02:18 AM
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I can't even get the mac wallet to sync let alone send anon, Can someone please help me.  Ive added .conf file in application support folder but nothing wallet is offline. HELP
Did you open & close after put the conf file and is it true name? supercoin.conf
You have any firewall? Make sure you to whitelist SUPER wallet. How many minutes did you wait?
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June 12, 2014, 04:10:15 AM
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http://www.super-coin.net/

dev Please  update the Anon features on the supercoin website.

people come from coinmarketcap will check our website.

thanks.


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June 12, 2014, 04:28:13 AM
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Guys you really pushing the dev team hard, this is good for you. You asked before anonymous thing and we started works on it and already spent many hours for it. And now you're asking reward drop and horrifying us multipools at recent +30 posts. What can we do? :-) This is why we are SUPERcoin... So we plan to reduce payout, to make it less attractive for multipools. But i need some extra support from community it's being little painful and it will require hardfork and all exchanges, pools, block explorers, etc has to be alerted and quick otherwise it can turn to disaster. I'll let you know about time but it will not be today or tomorrow. We need to organize our times.

Because situation is urgent we will take it front of anonymous feature.
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June 12, 2014, 04:38:48 AM
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Sending with anonymous feature will become very easy, just click "anonymous send" checkbox before clicking the "send" button. It is the same user interface. Of course, you can also choose to use normal send if you want. No additional command-line command to use:


By the way, we will try to release the wallet with anon features for tests this weekend. Remember, for now we only allow the anon features in testnet for testing purpose. It will be the same client, so you can switch back and forth between formal SuperCoin network and testnet (just change the testnet=1 or 0 in config file and restart the qt client).


Very nice! looking forward to the new client.

wonderful news!

Yes I like this coin

nice!

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