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June 14, 2014, 10:30:43 PM
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They could sneak in the coins later if they wanted to with a new wallet from what me reading. No reason to have the max higher than it should be.

What you just said is the case with any coin.

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June 14, 2014, 10:31:46 PM
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we need a official response from dev and someone reliable, until then im out
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June 14, 2014, 10:32:04 PM
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Re: Why Poloniex Has Rejected SuperCoin
Today at 10:22:21 PM
Reply with quote  #84
Quote from: doch on Today at 10:12:32 PM
Quote from: Spoetnik on Today at 10:10:28 PM
diversion tactics won't work guys  Roll Eyes

classic.. YOU get caught so you attempt to discredit the guy that caught you.
Oh internet your so creative ahahha
Do you guys think you just invented the cover up technique or something ?

yeah.. bam.... puuuuuhleeeeze lol

I'm not affiliated with SUPER in any way and have never bought or mined SUPER, I just thought people should know how completely and utterly wrong Poloniex is here.

but he's not.. what you just said is not true.
for one thing the exchange can pick and choose what ever coins they want to add.. they are not obligated to add any of them.
so how can he be wrong on that point ?
and on the other major point.. what he said is verified .. i checked it myself and he is 100% dead on about it.
It's been explained..
so i have no choice but to believe you and others are lying and playing games now to cover up the truth.
And the truth is he found a contradiction that looks fishy.
And that IS the truth.

if i have to choose one or the other to believe i believe Poloniex staff not the anon cloner..
and i can tell you all i too have no Super coins etc and if i did i would still say the same thing anyway.. truth is truth .
Suck it up..
for the good of our scene please lol
Quit being lying manipulative game playing scammers invested scam coins defending them.. you make ALL of us look bad  Angry

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June 14, 2014, 10:33:32 PM
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we need a official response from dev and someone reliable, until then im out

dev is offline now, he may solve this problem when he online.

he may too tired to release the Anon Wallet.
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June 14, 2014, 10:34:29 PM
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we need a official response from dev and someone reliable, until then im out

dev is offline now, he may solve this problem when he online.

he may too tired to release the Anon Wallet.

Dumped all your coins?

Or you are the mysterious dev?

The truth has come out guy Wink

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June 14, 2014, 10:35:27 PM
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ei dev, i apologize for my incompetence: the total amount of the coins will be around 50 millions... ok, but when? Within a few of days? one month? one year?
thanks

After 2 years. Because we have 2 years long PoS plan.

that's great, then we will have a low inflation and the price will goes up then more people will join us.

until now, not many people realized supercoin has a testnet Anon wallet now.

when everybody realize this, the price will sky rocket.



total PoW coins will be about 18.2 millions and total coins (PoW + PoS) is estimated at about 50 millions. This is new specs...

it's about 1/3 of old plan... :-)

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"total PoW coins will be about 18.2 millions and total coins (PoW + PoS) is estimated at about 50 millions. This is new specs...

it's about 1/3 of old plan... :-) "


read the words of Supercointeam ....  not lie , inicially was 150 millions . Poloniex are not a serious business


                               

                                 

Its still 150 million  Roll Eyes

Unless you want worthless coins because the dev grabs another 100m and dumps them, just keep buying and holding..

And Cinny and Silkcoin ?  ... sell all my cinny and silkcoins ?



Sorry if my initial post was unclear, I was just pointing out that a lot of coins have the MAX_MONEY variable set much higher than what the actual maximum number of coins is. That alone is not proof that SUPER (or SC or Cinni or any other coins that works that way) is a scam.

I did not understand correctly your post ... i´m sorry . My english its really poor :-(

true ,also ... the variable MAX_MONEY can be in another file as  main.h

https://github.com/supercoinproject/supercoin/blob/master/src/main.h#L38

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=652351.msg7314776#msg7314776

the post of Poloniex was really precipitate.



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June 14, 2014, 10:36:25 PM
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we need a official response from dev and someone reliable, until then im out

dev is offline now, he may solve this problem when he online.

he may too tired to release the Anon Wallet.

Dumped all your coins?

Or you are the mysterious dev?

The truth has come out guy Wink

why i dump all my coins when i know the price will hit at least10k satoshi in few days?
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June 14, 2014, 10:36:43 PM
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ei dev, i apologize for my incompetence: the total amount of the coins will be around 50 millions... ok, but when? Within a few of days? one month? one year?
thanks

After 2 years. Because we have 2 years long PoS plan.

that's great, then we will have a low inflation and the price will goes up then more people will join us.

until now, not many people realized supercoin has a testnet Anon wallet now.

when everybody realize this, the price will sky rocket.



total PoW coins will be about 18.2 millions and total coins (PoW + PoS) is estimated at about 50 millions. This is new specs...

it's about 1/3 of old plan... :-)

true

"total PoW coins will be about 18.2 millions and total coins (PoW + PoS) is estimated at about 50 millions. This is new specs...

it's about 1/3 of old plan... :-) "


read the words of Supercointeam ....  not lie , inicially was 150 millions . Poloniex are not a serious business


                                

                                

Its still 150 million  Roll Eyes

Unless you want worthless coins because the dev grabs another 100m and dumps them, just keep buying and holding..

And Cinny and Silkcoin ?  ... sell all my cinny and silkcoins ?



Sorry if my initial post was unclear, I was just pointing out that a lot of coins have the MAX_MONEY variable set much higher than what the actual maximum number of coins is. That alone is not proof that SUPER (or SC or Cinni or any other coins that works that way) is a scam.

I did not understand correctly your post ... i´m sorry . My english its really poor :-(

true ,also ... the variable MAX_MONEY can be in another file as  main.h

https://github.com/supercoinproject/supercoin/blob/master/src/main.h#L38

the post of Poloniex was really precipitate.





   
Re: Why Poloniex Has Rejected SuperCoin
Today at 10:22:21 PM
Reply with quote  #84
Quote from: doch on Today at 10:12:32 PM
Quote from: Spoetnik on Today at 10:10:28 PM
diversion tactics won't work guys  Roll Eyes

classic.. YOU get caught so you attempt to discredit the guy that caught you.
Oh internet your so creative ahahha
Do you guys think you just invented the cover up technique or something ?

yeah.. bam.... puuuuuhleeeeze lol

I'm not affiliated with SUPER in any way and have never bought or mined SUPER, I just thought people should know how completely and utterly wrong Poloniex is here.

but he's not.. what you just said is not true.
for one thing the exchange can pick and choose what ever coins they want to add.. they are not obligated to add any of them.
so how can he be wrong on that point ?
and on the other major point.. what he said is verified .. i checked it myself and he is 100% dead on about it.
It's been explained..
so i have no choice but to believe you and others are lying and playing games now to cover up the truth.
And the truth is he found a contradiction that looks fishy.
And that IS the truth.

if i have to choose one or the other to believe i believe Poloniex staff not the anon cloner..
and i can tell you all i too have no Super coins etc and if i did i would still say the same thing anyway.. truth is truth .
Suck it up..
for the good of our scene please lol
Quit being lying manipulative game playing scammers invested scam coins defending them.. you make ALL of us look bad  Angry

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June 14, 2014, 10:37:34 PM
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we need a official response from dev and someone reliable, until then im out

dev is offline now, he may solve this problem when he online.

he may too tired to release the Anon Wallet.

Hmmm.....
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June 14, 2014, 10:38:25 PM
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Indeed ... THAT answer makes me happy I got out
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June 14, 2014, 10:38:30 PM
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we need a official response from dev and someone reliable, until then im out

dev is offline now, he may solve this problem when he online.

he may too tired to release the Anon Wallet.

Dumped all your coins?

Or you are the mysterious dev?

The truth has come out guy Wink

why i dump all my coins when i know the price will hit at least10k satoshi in few days?
 Grin

We will see, maybe you are still dreaming?

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June 14, 2014, 10:40:00 PM
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Let's take a look at some other popular coins on Poloniex:

Silkcoin
Maximum POW supply: ~45 million

Great, let's check the code:

Code:
static const int64_t MAX_MONEY = 2000000000 * COIN;

Uh oh, 2 billion is a lot more than 45 million! Better de-list SC right away!

Cinni
Total Coins: 15,000,000

Hmm...

Code:
static const int64 MAX_MONEY = 100000000 * COIN;

I'm not very good at math but I think 100 million may be slightly more than 15 million.

Strange that you never gave a shit about things like this before?

We have recently raised our reviewing standards to look for more than just trojans and security exploits. SC and CINNI were not subjected to that kind of scrutiny. We will investigate them, though. And if it turns out that they are like SuperCoin and deliberately inserted those values, then we might have a problem. I cannot comment on them at this point, since we have not looked over the code yet for things like this.

We are attempting to raise the bar on the quality of the coins we list. We are well aware that this stance will be met with some opposition, particularly when a popular coin is rejected, but we are willing to take the heat for that. The idle pursuit of volume was never the intention behind Poloniex.

LMAO

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June 14, 2014, 10:40:18 PM
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Here is the updated specs after the recent hard fork.
Which obviously many newcomers don't know about.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.msg7273647#msg7273647

Here is the dev stating that it's now 1/3 of the old plan. It was 150 mil before Now 50 mil total.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.msg7266883#msg7266883

To me, it's just them forgetting to change it. Code checked out by multiple people now. There are no extra coins.

busoni should have consulted with the dev first as he didn't even know about the hard fork.

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June 14, 2014, 10:40:30 PM
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we need a official response from dev and someone reliable, until then im out

dev is offline now, he may solve this problem when he online.

he may too tired to release the Anon Wallet.

Hmmm.....

Haha, he was too tired to change the max coin supply in the code too  Roll Eyes

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June 14, 2014, 10:41:09 PM
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Here is the updated specs after the recent hard fork.
Which obviously many newcomers don't know about.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.msg7273647#msg7273647

Here is the dev stating that it's now 1/3 of the old plan. It was 150 mil before Now 50 mil total.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.msg7266883#msg7266883

To me, it's just them forgetting to change it. Code checked out by multiple people now. There are no extra coins.

busoni should have consulted with the dev first as he didn't even know about the hard fork.



   
Re: Why Poloniex Has Rejected SuperCoin
Today at 10:22:21 PM
Reply with quote  #84
Quote from: doch on Today at 10:12:32 PM
Quote from: Spoetnik on Today at 10:10:28 PM
diversion tactics won't work guys  Roll Eyes

classic.. YOU get caught so you attempt to discredit the guy that caught you.
Oh internet your so creative ahahha
Do you guys think you just invented the cover up technique or something ?


yeah.. bam.... puuuuuhleeeeze lol

I'm not affiliated with SUPER in any way and have never bought or mined SUPER, I just thought people should know how completely and utterly wrong Poloniex is here.

but he's not.. what you just said is not true.
for one thing the exchange can pick and choose what ever coins they want to add.. they are not obligated to add any of them.
so how can he be wrong on that point ?
and on the other major point.. what he said is verified .. i checked it myself and he is 100% dead on about it.
It's been explained..
so i have no choice but to believe you and others are lying and playing games now to cover up the truth.
And the truth is he found a contradiction that looks fishy.
And that IS the truth.

if i have to choose one or the other to believe i believe Poloniex staff not the anon cloner..
and i can tell you all i too have no Super coins etc and if i did i would still say the same thing anyway.. truth is truth .
Suck it up..
for the good of our scene please lol
Quit being lying manipulative game playing scammers invested scam coins defending them.. you make ALL of us look bad  Angry

Conscia mens recti, famae mendacia ridet.
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June 14, 2014, 10:42:35 PM
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if super coin is a scam so is cinni coin and silk coin
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June 14, 2014, 10:43:18 PM
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if super coin is a scam so is cinni coin and silk coin

Its about super now Wink. First handle this scam.

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June 14, 2014, 10:43:23 PM
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Here is the updated specs after the recent hard fork.
Which obviously many newcomers don't know about.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.msg7273647#msg7273647

Here is the dev stating that it's now 1/3 of the old plan. It was 150 mil before Now 50 mil total.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.msg7266883#msg7266883

To me, it's just them forgetting to change it. Code checked out by multiple people now. There are no extra coins.

busoni should have consulted with the dev first as he didn't even know about the hard fork.



   
Re: Why Poloniex Has Rejected SuperCoin
Today at 10:22:21 PM
Reply with quote  #84
Quote from: doch on Today at 10:12:32 PM
Quote from: Spoetnik on Today at 10:10:28 PM
diversion tactics won't work guys  Roll Eyes

classic.. YOU get caught so you attempt to discredit the guy that caught you.
Oh internet your so creative ahahha
Do you guys think you just invented the cover up technique or something ?


yeah.. bam.... puuuuuhleeeeze lol

I'm not affiliated with SUPER in any way and have never bought or mined SUPER, I just thought people should know how completely and utterly wrong Poloniex is here.

but he's not.. what you just said is not true.
for one thing the exchange can pick and choose what ever coins they want to add.. they are not obligated to add any of them.
so how can he be wrong on that point ?
and on the other major point.. what he said is verified .. i checked it myself and he is 100% dead on about it.
It's been explained..
so i have no choice but to believe you and others are lying and playing games now to cover up the truth.
And the truth is he found a contradiction that looks fishy.
And that IS the truth.

if i have to choose one or the other to believe i believe Poloniex staff not the anon cloner..
and i can tell you all i too have no Super coins etc and if i did i would still say the same thing anyway.. truth is truth .
Suck it up..
for the good of our scene please lol
Quit being lying manipulative game playing scammers invested scam coins defending them.. you make ALL of us look bad  Angry

Go pop 2 bars, buy back in higher than your selling point, and then finally stfu
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June 14, 2014, 10:43:37 PM
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Poloniex has decided not to list SuperCoin. Here is why: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=652351

   
Why Poloniex Has Rejected SuperCoin
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Poloniex has decided not to list SuperCoin because of some disturbing things we turned up in our code review. I would like to draw your attention to this part of the ANN post:

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- Total PoW coins will be 18.2 millions.
- Total coins (including PoS) will be about 50,000,000.

And these parts of the source code:

Code:
if (dAmount <= 0.0 || dAmount > 150000000.0)

Code:
static const int64_t MAX_MONEY = 150000000 * COIN;
static const int64_t POW_MAX_MONEY = 50000000 * COIN;

MAX_MONEY is pretty much what it sounds like. This means that the actual maximum supply of SuperCoin is 150 million, not 50 million. Furthermore, the maximum PoW coins is 50 million, rather than the claimed 18.2 million. The 150 million number appears twice in the code, so it can hardly be considered an accident.

We did not find evidence of an existing hidden premine, but extra coins could potentially be minted all at once at the end of the PoW phase, sent to exchanges via the "anon" feature, and dumped.

We have other concerns about the coin, particularly concerning the proposed method of anonymity, but the shenanigans with the maximum supply is sufficient for us to reject this coin.

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June 14, 2014, 10:44:03 PM
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ATTENTION!


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=652351.msg7314930#msg7314930


POLO is going to review CINNI and SC.

DUMP them before too late

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