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June 04, 2014, 12:14:56 PM |
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Christianity and Islam, these people actually believe there's an invisible man up in the sky watching us! inb4 religious people rage ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Googlists also believe there's an invisible eye in the sky watching them. Nobody makes fun of them for this belief.
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June 04, 2014, 01:02:29 PM |
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Lets not start this again. Atheism by definition cannot be a religion, as it is not based on any kind of faith. Most atheists would change their mind about god if they saw any evidence of it. I suppose some atheists could be described as "fundamental" or "antitheist", in that they would REFUSE to believe in god even if they had evidence for it, and push their views onto others similar to the way religious people push their view onto others. But that still doesn't make it a religion (I can see how these people could be seen as close-minded/stupid/annoying though, in much the same way as some religious people are close-minded/stupid/annoying) On topic: I've always thought that Rastafari was a bit odd (even though most Rastas I've met have been pretty cool, nice guys), mainly the idea of Haille Selassie the king of Ethiopia being worshipped as a god. Reminds me a bit of Ancient Egypt, where the pharaohs were worshipped as divine. It would be funny if we worshipped the Queen of England here!
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June 04, 2014, 01:59:28 PM |
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An agnostic might be somebody without any kind of faith. An atheist that says god doesn't exist, might be accused of a faith decision, since he has no evidence that god doesn't exist.
At most, he can say, since I never seen any evidence, I don't believe there is a god, but he shouldn't say that he believe there is no god or that god doesn't exist.
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June 04, 2014, 02:59:40 PM |
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An agnostic might be somebody without any kind of faith. An atheist that says god doesn't exist, might be accused of a faith decision, since he has no evidence that god doesn't exist.
At most, he can say, since I never seen any evidence, I don't believe there is a god, but he shouldn't say that he believe there is no god or that god doesn't exist.
You cannot prove a negative. Nor can you prove a positive 100%. Your first sentence is incorrect, agnostics believe that the truth about god is unknown/unknowable. When an atheist says that god doesn't exist, he is not making a faith decision but a logical decision. True, he does not have any evidence that god does not exist (see above), but he believes that the chances are close enough to zero to say god does not exist. He also believes that the burden of proof is on the person making the claim (ie a religious person). An analogy would be: A car making very little noise drives past. You assume that it is a new-fangled electric car, but your friend tells you "No, it is actually an old broken car being pulled by a herd of invisible wildebeest. The invisible cats tied to the back help with braking." Now, most logical people would not believe your friends explanation (even though of course it is possible, just very unlikely). That is exactly how an atheist feels about god. Although there is a miniscule chance that god exists, that could be said about anything at all i.e. invisible dragons/flying spaghetti monsters etc. That is how atheists CAN say, without faith, "I believe god doesn't exist"
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June 04, 2014, 03:47:14 PM |
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I'm not going to start a philosophic debate about prove. But if you read Popper, he will tell you that we can prove nothing, we can just disprove the alternatives. The truth is what resists empirical rejection, until we be able to disprove it.
You can prove a negative. You can prove that there isn't a cat inside a box or that it's impossible to insert something on a bottle. Every time you prove something positive, you just disproved all the opposite negatives.
When you say god don't exist, you are making an absolute assertion, basing on a believe. You have no evidence about that. It's not the same as saying there are no flying whales (and even saying that in absolute terms, is a risky assertion), because when talking about god you are talking about things they say are out of reality.
I agree, the burden of proof is on believers. So, you can say, I don't believe he exists, nobody show me evidence; but you can't say he doesn't exist. And even saying I believe he doesn't exist, is a believe, not based on evidence.
Is the same about aliens visiting earth. You can say I don't believe they are here. You can't say they don't exist or that they never were/are here.
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June 04, 2014, 05:15:42 PM |
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I'm starting the Church of Satoshi.
Worshipers will be referred to as bitcoinites.
We will require a small tithe payable in bitcoin.
Satoshi sacrificed his wealth for your sins. Billions of dollars lay dorment so you can purchase your drugs on onion sites. Repent sinners.
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June 04, 2014, 05:20:28 PM |
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If you don't promise something, that church won't be very popular.
A church/religion is all about promising something in return for obedience.
At least, a couple of bitcoins or an increase on the price.
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June 04, 2014, 05:46:57 PM |
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Christianity...it's like bible is provin existence of god, then spiderman comics are proving existence of spider-man.
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June 04, 2014, 06:38:43 PM |
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If you don't promise something, that church won't be very popular.
A church/religion is all about promising something in return for obedience.
At least, a couple of bitcoins or an increase on the price.
Alright, every 0.1 btc tithed will give the price og bitcoin a "holy wall of hodl" for one minute stopping in from dropping below whatever price it's at the time you send the tithe. And if it doesn't hold that means that your faith in Satoshi was not strong enough and you should tithe double next time to make up for your lack of faith.
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June 04, 2014, 06:52:14 PM |
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Everything exists, the universe is infinite. Thoughts are but other dimensions we connect to partially.
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June 04, 2014, 07:05:12 PM |
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Everything exists, the universe is infinite. Thoughts are but other dimensions we connect to partially.
Dank, you are the only person I know who believes you are having sex with your own mother in another dimension. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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June 04, 2014, 07:07:42 PM |
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ALL OF THEM!
HUMANITY OVER RELIGION, FTW!!!!!
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June 04, 2014, 09:08:55 PM |
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all i know of is one: Raelism.
they believe the tenants of Hindu, Muslim, etc.. except for a guy in the sky, they believe in space people who made us.
they look *extremely* down on underage sex. and u can't join the religion if your a Catholic.
I was going to mention this as my favorite, but you beat me to it. RaëlismRaëlians believe that sex is a normal, natural and healthy part of life and encourages people to be true to their natural sexuality.[108] They promote healing from damaging messages from strict puritanical belief systems and social stigmas that stifle one's natural sexuality. Acceptance of masturbation, homosexuality, bisexuality, pansexuality, naturism and any legal, safe and consensual adult activity is promoted as part of a healthy and long life, and this is used to attract young converts to the religion.[109] Raelians believe that sexuality is a gift of pleasure to mankind from the Elohim.[110] The Raëlian book Let's Welcome our Fathers From Space says that new advanced extraterrestrial civilizations will ultimately practice a final religion or "religion of the infinite" that involves ubiquitous practice of Sensual Meditation. http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1366783/-r-e-p-e-a-t-press-conference-an-embassy-to-welcome-an-extraterrestrial-civilization-the-raelians-will-file-a-formal-application-to-the-canadian-gover"The file we will give to Prime Minister Harper, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, the Minister of National Defence and the Minister of Finance includes two main sections. The first is a request for a Lot Of Land, 4 square kilometers in Canada and the second is a request to grant extraterritoriality, as for all Embassies in the world", declared Daniel Turcotte, RAEL's assistant for the Embassy project. "In return, Canada will benefit from an economic impact of tens of billions of dollars in the long term. In addition, the host country of this Embassy will improve and enjoy an immense prestige being the interplanetary hub. The residents of this country will be the first to benefit from the Elohim's very advanced technology in the fields, among others, of bio-robotics, nanotechnology, medicine, transport and communications, as well as an access to some sources of energy currently impossible to imagine by our scientists", added Turcotte. I wonder if they would be interested in a board member swap: Brock Pierce for any one of theirs.
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dank
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June 04, 2014, 09:19:19 PM |
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Everything exists, the universe is infinite. Thoughts are but other dimensions we connect to partially.
Dank, you are the only person I know who believes you are having sex with your own mother in another dimension. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Yet you're the one connecting to that dimension... youre weird.
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June 04, 2014, 10:38:13 PM |
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Everything exists, the universe is infinite. Thoughts are but other dimensions we connect to partially.
Dank, you are the only person I know who believes you are having sex with your own mother in another dimension. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Yet you're the one connecting to that dimension... youre weird. And you are too. An infinite number of you are connecting and watching and grading yourself and your mother. In an infinite amount of dimensions your family dog joins in. You shouldn't really push ideas you can't understand, fool. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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June 05, 2014, 01:47:31 AM |
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i think every religion is crazy if your gonna think about their rules and their belief and i can say that its their culture and why does you people need to think its crazy? LOL have respect
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June 05, 2014, 11:43:49 AM |
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im done
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"Together we stand for a fairness and truth"
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