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June 10, 2014, 09:26:59 PM |
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All religions are crazy. The universe doesn't care about our existence.
The universe is a live, and it is you.
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btcusury
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June 20, 2014, 05:59:42 PM |
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^ Precisely correct.
The craziest religion is the one that separates the self from God.
Duality gives rise to many "crazy" ideas.
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June 27, 2014, 12:33:23 AM |
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^ Precisely correct.
The craziest religion is the one that separates the self from God.
Duality gives rise to many "crazy" ideas.
There is a "God"? Please prove that! Been gone for a while due to health issues but everything is OK now. Just kind of took a break from the madness of crypto!
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June 28, 2014, 12:05:31 PM |
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Christianity and Islam, these people actually believe there's an invisible man up in the sky watching us! inb4 religious people rage ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Yes, Islam is very religious religion, Islam people are so assiduous to their god, they could easily die for It, so I think It's pretty crazy. I am a Muslim. Not as a Muslim but as a person I don't support your statement. There are a lot of reasons for that. I will tell a reason... It is about Qur'an. If you read Qur'an, you can find a lot of things but you have to go through everything related to the word/verse, if you want to understand a about it. Scientists proved many things some years ago which was already in Qur'an which was written in ~1350 years ago. Nobody edit Qur'an. You can't find any changes when you compare and old Qur'an and a new Qur'an, the hand writings may be different but the whole words will be same. Many scientists became Muslim when they go through Qur'an. Because ~1350 years ago, there wasn't things like X-ray but still many things have been written in Qur'an. Reference: 1 2 3There are many more but I am in a hurry and remember if you are looking about Islam, beware of Jewish sites which give false news about Islam ( There will be nothing about Islam in it). Kindly, Muhammed Zakhir
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June 28, 2014, 12:14:23 PM |
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June 28, 2014, 02:05:22 PM |
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^ Precisely correct.
The craziest religion is the one that separates the self from God.
Duality gives rise to many "crazy" ideas.
There is a "God"? Please prove that! Been gone for a while due to health issues but everything is OK now. Just kind of took a break from the madness of crypto! If there is a "God" why do i have to be so careful when talking to the cops about my c#### porn case? because "God" might learn information about the crime that can be used against me? Bullshit.. the whole thing is..
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i am here.
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June 28, 2014, 03:08:41 PM |
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Scientists proved many things some years ago which was already in Qur'an which was written in ~1350 years ago.
Bullshit!
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June 28, 2014, 03:55:27 PM |
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Gimpeline
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June 28, 2014, 04:47:07 PM |
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Nope. They found a particle. They didnt find any God
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June 28, 2014, 06:42:21 PM |
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It's called the God Particle because the publisher wouldn't publish a book called The Goddamn Particle, it has nothing to do with gods.
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June 28, 2014, 06:44:56 PM |
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A lot of people put Jedi as religion on their census form ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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July 01, 2014, 01:07:12 PM |
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Have you guys followed the news about Isis? They are pretty crazy to they already made a khaleef in Iraq and Syria. And they want to take over Iraq, Iran, Syria and eventually Israel. To force a Islamic state everywhere they take over. So they are crazy fanatic about the islam. Pretty crazy how some people can interpret the books so different from other people.
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July 01, 2014, 01:48:22 PM |
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Christianity and Islam, these people actually believe there's an invisible man up in the sky watching us! inb4 religious people rage ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) how is that more crazy than believing that humans are the most advanced lifeforms we know of? And they just appeared by a random process? In my opinion it's much more plausible to believe the universe was created by a much more advanced being that is possibly outside of our 4 dimensions, which would equate to a god in all possible senses of the meaning god. Since he's outside of the dimension of time itself (and possibly created the very concept of time in the first place) it would not create a paradox of 'well how did god suddenly appear?'. God just always was, then he created all the concepts of 'speed of light', 'time', 'space', 'physics', and what not. He kind of created his own programming language so to speak, and within that language he wrote the universe into being. All the rules of physics (such as F=m*a and E=mc^2) are just part of the code, and every object is just an object written using the code. I don't think that's too weird to believe, considering the alternatives. Actually, Buddhism is one of the few major religions out there that specifically denies creator gods.
I'm personally in the position of not giving a fuck, I take the "No Gods, No Masters" saying of Anarchism pretty seriously, I couldn't care if the fucker came down here and told me to worship him, I'd still tell him to bugger off.
Honestly, if a God-like figure did come to Earth, he would have a lot of explaining to do: Think about it, we could have had pokemon in real life, but he was all like "nah bro, have some malaria". I gave up belief in a creator when I was 5, and learnt enough basic logic to know he doesn't exist (logically). so just because there is trouble in the world there is no god? I can see how you would think that, your thought process is probably something like this: If there would be a god, he would solve these problems, unless god is either: - Not powerful enough to stop the problems, in which case he would not be much of a god, and certainly not almighty
- Doesn't care about it enough to stop it, in which case why should we care about him, if he does not care about us either?
- God may have started the universe (multiverse) but is either dead or moved on to a parallel universe (or multiverse, more correctly), in which case there is (currently) no god
- God is the cause of the problems, because he enjoys messing with us, in which case god is evil, and we should not worship an evil being
While this may seem like a very logical approach, there is a very decent explanation as to why there are problems in the world and god does not solve them (yet), care to hear an explanation?
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July 01, 2014, 02:36:53 PM |
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The spaghetti monster one... like really wtf.
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btcusury
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July 01, 2014, 06:32:34 PM |
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^ Precisely correct.
The craziest religion is the one that separates the self from God.
Duality gives rise to many "crazy" ideas.
There is a "God"? Please prove that! I'm saying that YOU are God, buddy. There are a few ways to prove that, but they are all subjective. You can kill yourself (least recommended method), meditate until you reach nondual awareness, or smoke 50+mg of DMT. Either method can be used to raise the frequency of your consciousness to the point where there is no separation between (the forms you had identified as) the self and the "other". Good luck! Christianity and Islam, these people actually believe there's an invisible man up in the sky watching us! inb4 religious people rage ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) how is that more crazy than believing that humans are the most advanced lifeforms we know of? And they just appeared by a random process? In my opinion it's much more plausible to believe the universe was created by a much more advanced being that is possibly outside of our 4 dimensions, which would equate to a god in all possible senses of the meaning god. Since he's outside of the dimension of time itself (and possibly created the very concept of time in the first place) it would not create a paradox of 'well how did god suddenly appear?'. God just always was, then he created all the concepts of 'speed of light', 'time', 'space', 'physics', and what not. He kind of created his own programming language so to speak, and within that language he wrote the universe into being. All the rules of physics (such as F=m*a and E=mc^2) are just part of the code, and every object is just an object written using the code. I don't think that's too weird to believe, considering the alternatives. I believe you are very close with that thinking! I'd say God is best defined as "all that is", the 10th dimension, the Omniverse. If we view time as a way to account for change in the dimension below, rather than as an intrinsic quality of reality (as in M theory), then it's possible to view spacetime as existing simultaneously; i.e. only the present moment actually exists. So, from our limited perspective, we experience time as if a temporal (non-spatial) dimension, but were we Flatlanders (2-dimensional beings), the 3rd dimension would be our "time". If this is what time is, then it's an easy leap to consider the idea that everything is the same one thing. Everything exists within the one being, God, Creation, which is experiencing itself in all the ways that it can. You are existence experiencing itself subjectively from a certain perspective. Or, as Alan Watts put it, you are God playing hide and seek with yourself. Does this make sense?
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July 01, 2014, 06:59:12 PM |
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^ Precisely correct.
The craziest religion is the one that separates the self from God.
Duality gives rise to many "crazy" ideas.
There is a "God"? Please prove that! I'm saying that YOU are God, buddy. There are a few ways to prove that, but they are all subjective. You can kill yourself (least recommended method), meditate until you reach nondual awareness, or smoke 50+mg of DMT. Either method can be used to raise the frequency of your consciousness to the point where there is no separation between (the forms you had identified as) the self and the "other". Good luck! Christianity and Islam, these people actually believe there's an invisible man up in the sky watching us! inb4 religious people rage ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) how is that more crazy than believing that humans are the most advanced lifeforms we know of? And they just appeared by a random process? In my opinion it's much more plausible to believe the universe was created by a much more advanced being that is possibly outside of our 4 dimensions, which would equate to a god in all possible senses of the meaning god. Since he's outside of the dimension of time itself (and possibly created the very concept of time in the first place) it would not create a paradox of 'well how did god suddenly appear?'. God just always was, then he created all the concepts of 'speed of light', 'time', 'space', 'physics', and what not. He kind of created his own programming language so to speak, and within that language he wrote the universe into being. All the rules of physics (such as F=m*a and E=mc^2) are just part of the code, and every object is just an object written using the code. I don't think that's too weird to believe, considering the alternatives. I believe you are very close with that thinking! I'd say God is best defined as "all that is", the 10th dimension, the Omniverse. If we view time as a way to account for change in the dimension below, rather than as an intrinsic quality of reality (as in M theory), then it's possible to view spacetime as existing simultaneously; i.e. only the present moment actually exists. So, from our limited perspective, we experience time as if a temporal (non-spatial) dimension, but were we Flatlanders (2-dimensional beings), the 3rd dimension would be our "time". If this is what time is, then it's an easy leap to consider the idea that everything is the same one thing. Everything exists within the one being, God, Creation, which is experiencing itself in all the ways that it can. You are existence experiencing itself subjectively from a certain perspective. Or, as Alan Watts put it, you are God playing hide and seek with yourself. Does this make sense? no
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July 01, 2014, 09:50:50 PM |
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^ Precisely correct.
The craziest religion is the one that separates the self from God.
Duality gives rise to many "crazy" ideas.
There is a "God"? Please prove that! I'm saying that YOU are God, buddy. There are a few ways to prove that, but they are all subjective. You can kill yourself (least recommended method), meditate until you reach nondual awareness, or smoke 50+mg of DMT. Either method can be used to raise the frequency of your consciousness to the point where there is no separation between (the forms you had identified as) the self and the "other". Good luck! Christianity and Islam, these people actually believe there's an invisible man up in the sky watching us! inb4 religious people rage ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) how is that more crazy than believing that humans are the most advanced lifeforms we know of? And they just appeared by a random process? In my opinion it's much more plausible to believe the universe was created by a much more advanced being that is possibly outside of our 4 dimensions, which would equate to a god in all possible senses of the meaning god. Since he's outside of the dimension of time itself (and possibly created the very concept of time in the first place) it would not create a paradox of 'well how did god suddenly appear?'. God just always was, then he created all the concepts of 'speed of light', 'time', 'space', 'physics', and what not. He kind of created his own programming language so to speak, and within that language he wrote the universe into being. All the rules of physics (such as F=m*a and E=mc^2) are just part of the code, and every object is just an object written using the code. I don't think that's too weird to believe, considering the alternatives. I believe you are very close with that thinking! I'd say God is best defined as "all that is", the 10th dimension, the Omniverse. If we view time as a way to account for change in the dimension below, rather than as an intrinsic quality of reality (as in M theory), then it's possible to view spacetime as existing simultaneously; i.e. only the present moment actually exists. So, from our limited perspective, we experience time as if a temporal (non-spatial) dimension, but were we Flatlanders (2-dimensional beings), the 3rd dimension would be our "time". If this is what time is, then it's an easy leap to consider the idea that everything is the same one thing. Everything exists within the one being, God, Creation, which is experiencing itself in all the ways that it can. You are existence experiencing itself subjectively from a certain perspective. Or, as Alan Watts put it, you are God playing hide and seek with yourself. Does this make sense? somewhat, it's an interesting theory, but i doubt many will agree with you. Some simply don't want to believe (too different from their current beliefs, don't feel comfortable with it) Some simply don't understand. I think your theory makes sense, but i'm not sure if it's correct, it probably is at least close to the truth, and it's well thought out. I like people who at least try to make sense of the universe rather than to just accept whatever their teachers tell them. It's a very important subject to know where we came from and where we stand, yet most people ridicule you when you bring up the subject. Possibly because the consequences of them being wrong on their beliefs might mean they have to radically alter their lifestyle and way of thinking and it will bring them out of their comfort zone.
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July 02, 2014, 01:13:47 AM |
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Christianity and Islam, these people actually believe there's an invisible man up in the sky watching us! inb4 religious people rage ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) how is that more crazy than believing that humans are the most advanced lifeforms we know of? And they just appeared by a random process? In my opinion it's much more plausible to believe the universe was created by a much more advanced being that is possibly outside of our 4 dimensions, which would equate to a god in all possible senses of the meaning god. Since he's outside of the dimension of time itself (and possibly created the very concept of time in the first place) it would not create a paradox of 'well how did god suddenly appear?'. God just always was, then he created all the concepts of 'speed of light', 'time', 'space', 'physics', and what not. He kind of created his own programming language so to speak, and within that language he wrote the universe into being. All the rules of physics (such as F=m*a and E=mc^2) are just part of the code, and every object is just an object written using the code. I don't think that's too weird to believe, considering the alternatives. Humans appeared in the sequence of about 4 billion years worth of evolution, and though the origins of life aren't yet completely understood, the evolution of species is not a random process. Then, what you're basically doing is throwing the concept of god to the fringes of our current knowledge and saying that since this hasn't been understood yet, god must have done it. That is nothing more than a modern example of the god-of-the-gaps fallacy. All in all, you have a weird definition of the word "plausible", if you find that to be more logically sound and credible. And then, the real problem with that is, it really doesn't help us in any way whatsoever: it doesn't advance our understanding of the universe in any way, and it doesn't even allow us the chance to test it out directly, so science will just continue to fill in the gaps in our knowledge, while theories like those will just be forced to continually retreat, as they have for centuries.
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Islam and Scientology.
I dont understand how someone could follow a religion created by a Sci-Fi writer.
But it may be as believable as a God upthere treating us a puppets giving us free will and if we fail we burn for ever.
If God knew me before I was concieved, did he make me to go to hell?
Is there not enough room in hell? Why cant we all just go to heaven? Cause adam and eve ate a fucking apple?
If everything happens for a reason, did god make a baby to be aborted?
Its about controling the masses, if you had nothing to live for past this life why should you obey the few?
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