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June 17, 2014, 06:07:54 PM
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Some of that stuff with blockchain 2.0 sounds like snake oil, so for the time being let's stick to making the anonymity work....

i do believe it is stuff with blockchain 2.0 that makes Dev attend the conference.

their is no reason for alt coins with no real application to attend such conference. even with anonymity feature.

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June 17, 2014, 06:21:14 PM
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How is crypt worth more than XC? They have double the total supply and ONLY a white paper... Lol?

XC already has the P2P anonymous feature in the wallet code now.. It will be enabled for user to user anonymous transactions (no masternode required) in an upcoming release


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June 17, 2014, 06:23:55 PM
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How is crypt worth more than XC? They have double the total supply and ONLY a white paper... Lol?

Mindfox as dev. Circulating supply is far lower btw - only 2mn coins.



Crypt is in a bubble. XC isn't. the next XC bubble will take us near if not beyond DRK.

DRK is centralised, this isn't. all these other scam coins just have whitepapers, while we will be the first P2P decentralised currency. DRK will fall, XC will rise.
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June 17, 2014, 06:25:23 PM
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How is crypt worth more than XC? They have double the total supply and ONLY a white paper... Lol?

XC already has the P2P anonymous feature in the wallet code now.. It will be enabled for user to user anonymous transactions (no masternode required) in an upcoming release



do you have an updated ETA for REV 2?
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June 17, 2014, 06:26:24 PM
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How is crypt worth more than XC? They have double the total supply and ONLY a white paper... Lol?

XC already has the P2P anonymous feature in the wallet code now.. It will be enabled for user to user anonymous transactions (no masternode required) in an upcoming release




Also the user will have an option of which solution they want to use - they can go direct P2P or route through the mixer.  

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June 17, 2014, 06:27:39 PM
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How is crypt worth more than XC? They have double the total supply and ONLY a white paper... Lol?

XC already has the P2P anonymous feature in the wallet code now.. It will be enabled for user to user anonymous transactions (no masternode required) in an upcoming release



do you have an updated ETA for REV 2?


Not at this time, but the development schedule will be posted when is it finalized (this week)


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June 17, 2014, 06:29:42 PM
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As far as I am aware, Chaeplin didn't even try to crack it due to what he perceived as a non-acknowledgement of the hard link that he provided when the common wallet spent the dust, betraying its identity. Anyway it's not an issue I want to go into.

Of course you don't want to go into it, because Chaeplin admitted DRK wasn't patching against his pattern matching technique until RC 4.

Whereas Chaeplin couldn't crack XC once it upgraded to the mulitpath protocol, just like the XC dev said. Of course, Chaeplin will give various excuses but the fact he FUDs XC persistently shows his true colours. We both know Chaeplin would have wet himself in excitement if he could quickly crack the challenge and spam his result all over the forum.

DRK challenge is to improve / fix

a) nodes knowing what they are transacting
b) change addresses linking ownership
c) removal of 10 DRK limit but preserving identical inputs in some form as to prevent coinjoin analysis through different types of inputs.


And also to patch against the pattern matching analysis which links any addresses  Wink

DRK has lots still to do, like every anon currency. The number 1 being, not having a repeat of the fork that caused chaos a couple of weeks back.


Worse yet, if the blockchain is too big it can't even be loaded into the client. A few BTCs worth of tx fees just to spam the blockchain, can render it unusable for many users.


Well it's not too big yet and there are solutions that can be implemented in the future. MRO needs a lot of development though, that much is obvious.

In my opinion MRO is the "most" anon of any coins right now, but that comes at a trade off. MRO can't slot easily into the existing BTC/clones infrastructure, everything is being built from the ground up. But as we can see from NXT, when the work is 90% complete the end result of staggering.

If a trust algorithm is in place = it's still a trusted transaction. Coin forwarding = trust. Signatures = trustless.

No you don't understand. I said signatures + the algorithm. The signatures would make the XC nodes trustless, to prevent stealing. The trust learning algorithm would efficiently learn the bad nodes, to prevent blocking.

So XC would have the trustless transactions AND a more efficient network.

The bad node in DRK can monitor the transaction but it cannot really block it. At most it can delay it (at a cost, as the node would lose collateral) since the implementation is fault-tolerant.

NO a bad node in DRK can block a transaction. Of course the transaction can be broadcasted again at cost, but that first transaction attempt has failed.

It doesn't really make a difference to me. I can run a node from my PC as well. Instead of opening the wallet I can run the node, whether in my PC or laptop - even my tablet. It's just better to have a nice internet connection and DDOS protection.


Again you are missing the point. You are one person. XC approach means anyone can run a node easily. It's truly decentralised as I explained.
Some of that stuff with blockchain 2.0 sounds like snake oil, so for the time being let's stick to making the anonymity work....

Snake oil? What? Talk about a baseless remark. Now you are clutching at straws. The XC dev has delivered everything he has promised so far and even better, ahead of schedule.

You should really read about the past projects this guy has architected. It's no wonder he is sprinting through the deadlines so quickly, this guy is the real deal.

What is staggering is that in 1 month XC dev has done what took the DRK dev 4 months. And arguably the end product is going to be far superior.
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June 17, 2014, 06:33:46 PM
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XC already has the P2P anonymous feature in the wallet code now.. It will be enabled for user to user anonymous transactions (no masternode required) in an upcoming release



This is fucking huge!!

Anonymous transactions which are directly person to person with no masternode required!

Best decision I ever made, backing this coin + dev.
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June 17, 2014, 06:35:40 PM
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Thank you Alex en Random, for this civilized discussion. Nice read!
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June 17, 2014, 06:39:48 PM
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XC already has the P2P anonymous feature in the wallet code now.. It will be enabled for user to user anonymous transactions (no masternode required) in an upcoming release



This is fucking huge!!

Anonymous transactions which are directly person to person with no masternode required!

Best decision I ever made, backing this coin + dev.


Basically this feature creates a new set of keys[one-time use] for the receiver --- which the sender users for this specific transaction, all handled by the client's themselves

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June 17, 2014, 06:40:44 PM
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What is staggering is that in 1 month XC dev has done what took the DRK dev 4 months. And arguably the end product is going to be far superior.

i would really like to see the arguably bit of this. i can't fathom how the finished project of DRK is going to be anywhere near as good as XC. i'm infact struggling to come up with even one feature
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June 17, 2014, 06:46:06 PM
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What is staggering is that in 1 month XC dev has done what took the DRK dev 4 months.

I've seen this claim since the first centralized mixer came out and the "we are ahead of DRK" claims etc etc. I mean ok, it's good pump material to proclaim superiority but the cold reality of the matter is that DRK wasn't building a central mixer for 4 months.

Same applies right now. DRK dev wasn't working on trusted transactions either. Trusted transaction = going backwards and undoing Satoshi's work = a joke solution as far as cryptocurrency experts are concerned.

Remember to respect the criticism because it is the criticism that will end up giving you the best bang for your buck, if it's used as the fuel to do things correctly in the future. If a dev hears his solution sucks what do you think will do? Apparently he will try to review the code and see how he can make it better. Praises of awesomeness won't get you far in this business. DRKs evolution has passed multiple stages of criticism, "this is flawed" etc etc. These stuff are to be embraced because they ultimately make you better.

Thank you Alex en Random, for this civilized discussion. Nice read!

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June 17, 2014, 06:46:38 PM
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So many good news and price is so low, community dont react for it ?
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June 17, 2014, 06:47:37 PM
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Some of that stuff with blockchain 2.0 sounds like snake oil, so for the time being let's stick to making the anonymity work....

The development of Blockchain 2.0 WILL more than likely be accomplished by the XC team.

The amount of skill and effort required to produce something of that magnitude is only achievable with a team as solid as XC.

I've seen OTHER devs for OTHER coins, they usually outsource ALL of their work, because they aren't able to do it themselves; but how can you outsource cutting edge technology and coding?

I am extremely confident that the decentralized mesh network that blockchain 2.0 brings, will revolutionize the entire world as we know it.

Imagine being able to instantly create a decentralized drop box with a line of code

ex. --open contract
--4GB data storage
--close contract

And voila you now have a 4 GB folder that anyone who you give the public key to can instantly access from anywhere in the world. No third party regulation involved whatsoever. 100% anonymous.

It's incredible really; the world went through hell with the NSA scandal, and the public responds with something as breath taking as this. An entirely decentralized blockchain that you can instantly create any type of application on and share.

You could make advertising agencies, law services, back ups for records, anything you can imagine. XC is the only currency that can be used on this revolutionary network, so with such an incredible demand, you can see where its going to go.

THAT is why I am here day in and out trying to convince people to hop aboard, this is the opportunity of a lifetime. I'm currently up 18x on my investment on XC, gains like those are extraordinary, but that's what this coin is all about.

XC is the future of the digital age, and were all a part of it. Cheers.

Listen to flume and xxyyxx4agUdtime
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June 17, 2014, 06:53:21 PM
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XC already has the P2P anonymous feature in the wallet code now.. It will be enabled for user to user anonymous transactions (no masternode required) in an upcoming release



This is fucking huge!!

Anonymous transactions which are directly person to person with no masternode required!

Best decision I ever made, backing this coin + dev.


Basically this feature creates a new set of keys[one-time use] for the receiver --- which the sender users for this specific transaction, all handled by the client's themselves


Does any other coin currently have P2P anonymity?

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June 17, 2014, 06:54:24 PM
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XC already has the P2P anonymous feature in the wallet code now.. It will be enabled for user to user anonymous transactions (no masternode required) in an upcoming release



This is fucking huge!!

Anonymous transactions which are directly person to person with no masternode required!

Best decision I ever made, backing this coin + dev.


Basically this feature creates a new set of keys[one-time use] for the receiver --- which the sender users for this specific transaction, all handled by the client's themselves


Another win coming for the XC privacy platform  Cool

Keep up the good work
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June 17, 2014, 07:16:17 PM
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How is crypt worth more than XC? They have double the total supply and ONLY a white paper... Lol?

XC already has the P2P anonymous feature in the wallet code now.. It will be enabled for user to user anonymous transactions (no masternode required) in an upcoming release




Also the user will have an option of which solution they want to use - they can go direct P2P or route through the mixer.  

You know you're the man right?

ATCsecure ladies and gentlemen, the messiah of the decentralized digital age.

Listen to flume and xxyyxx4agUdtime
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June 17, 2014, 07:27:01 PM
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How is crypt worth more than XC? They have double the total supply and ONLY a white paper... Lol?

XC already has the P2P anonymous feature in the wallet code now.. It will be enabled for user to user anonymous transactions (no masternode required) in an upcoming release



NICE! good luck in DC!
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June 17, 2014, 07:28:39 PM
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How is crypt worth more than XC? They have double the total supply and ONLY a white paper... Lol?

XC already has the P2P anonymous feature in the wallet code now.. It will be enabled for user to user anonymous transactions (no masternode required) in an upcoming release




Also the user will have an option of which solution they want to use - they can go direct P2P or route through the mixer.  

You know you're the man right?

ATCsecure ladies and gentlemen, the messiah of the decentralized digital age.

Fair play he's always delivered and then some (he got a Stephen Hawking level IQ), i'm actually proud to own XC, it's going to be huge, litecoin money!!!!
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June 17, 2014, 07:37:29 PM
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How is crypt worth more than XC? They have double the total supply and ONLY a white paper... Lol?

XC already has the P2P anonymous feature in the wallet code now.. It will be enabled for user to user anonymous transactions (no masternode required) in an upcoming release



if a coin other than XC could do this, they would be making "sneak peek" announcements, tweets and press releases about it!
I really hope the PR people get some of this good news out there, SOON!
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