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Author Topic: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos  (Read 1484183 times)
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July 04, 2014, 12:03:40 PM
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I'm interested in this coin but I was looking over the codebase, is there any reason you decided to remove the git history?

Obviously this was forked from another coin and for some reason the entire git history was removed and the codebase was pushed in one commit.

It is hard to follow what is going on and where it is coming from.



If you are feeling reluctant to invest its ok. You could probably try a new fresh p&d coin with anonymosu features. You know, anonymous developer, anonymous team, anonymous PR, anonymous block explorer, anonymous premine, etc  Wink

This isn't about investing, this is about software development. And there is an expected way you participate in a open source community. Using git correctly is not that difficult, there is no reason to remove the git history.

There is a reason to remove the git history: not wanting it to get cloned.

This is an old conversation. Why bring it up now? It's a non-issue: the repository was created as a one-off. It was never an ongoing thing there. That's why you don't see a history. It was purely done so that people could review the code. End

Removing the git history does not prevent you from getting cloned. That makes no sense.

So this is a closed source coin with no open development? Why are basic questions about the code base being met with such antagonism? Why does everything have to be about money, fud and other bullshit? I thought this community was trying to test new ideas and and improve crypto currency.

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July 04, 2014, 12:07:08 PM
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Removing the git history does not prevent you from getting cloned.

Your joking right?
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July 04, 2014, 12:11:03 PM
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.15 BTC sent for xc promotion to 16WffZKRbnCKSBGXaVpra4dqT72pf3TT3V

Thank you! Received... though you sent it to my personal address.

I'll forward it to the donation address unless you intended to tip me :-)


Thanks, as I stated before not overly tech savy....  lol
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July 04, 2014, 12:11:08 PM
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I'm interested in this coin but I was looking over the codebase, is there any reason you decided to remove the git history?

Obviously this was forked from another coin and for some reason the entire git history was removed and the codebase was pushed in one commit.

It is hard to follow what is going on and where it is coming from.



If you are feeling reluctant to invest its ok. You could probably try a new fresh p&d coin with anonymosu features. You know, anonymous developer, anonymous team, anonymous PR, anonymous block explorer, anonymous premine, etc  Wink

This isn't about investing, this is about software development. And there is an expected way you participate in a open source community. Using git correctly is not that difficult, there is no reason to remove the git history.

There is a reason to remove the git history: not wanting it to get cloned.

This is an old conversation. Why bring it up now? It's a non-issue: the repository was created as a one-off. It was never an ongoing thing there. That's why you don't see a history. It was purely done so that people could review the code. End

Removing the git history does not prevent you from getting cloned. That makes no sense.

So this is a closed source coin with no open development? Why are basic questions about the code base being met with such antagonism? Why does everything have to be about money, fud and other bullshit? I thought this community was trying to test new ideas and and improve crypto currency.

We are. But quoting FUD back from May won't help. If you are really interested, I suggest you search this, the previous unmoderated topic, as well as the unmoderated XC topic(now deserted I think). You will find your answers there.
If you like open source coins so much there's always the next p&d coin which will most certainly help the scene with its trustful open source adoption.


The code has been peer reviewed by prominent members of the community, which you can find in topic as well.

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July 04, 2014, 12:13:22 PM
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FUD removed.


We are. But quoting FUD back from May won't help. If you are really interested, I suggest you search this, the previous unmoderated topic, as well as the unmoderated XC topic(now deserted I think). You will find your answers there.
If you like open source coins so much there's always the next p&d coin which will most certainly help the scene with its trustful open source adoption.

I find it funny that whenever XC goes up, the trolls starts to come out.  It's a good sign of fear since he's a strong supporter of VRC...

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July 04, 2014, 12:22:02 PM
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I'm interested in this coin but I was looking over the codebase, is there any reason you decided to remove the git history?

Obviously this was forked from another coin and for some reason the entire git history was removed and the codebase was pushed in one commit.

It is hard to follow what is going on and where it is coming from.



If you are feeling reluctant to invest its ok. You could probably try a new fresh p&d coin with anonymosu features. You know, anonymous developer, anonymous team, anonymous PR, anonymous block explorer, anonymous premine, etc  Wink

This isn't about investing, this is about software development. And there is an expected way you participate in a open source community. Using git correctly is not that difficult, there is no reason to remove the git history.

There is a reason to remove the git history: not wanting it to get cloned.

This is an old conversation. Why bring it up now? It's a non-issue: the repository was created as a one-off. It was never an ongoing thing there. That's why you don't see a history. It was purely done so that people could review the code. End

Removing the git history does not prevent you from getting cloned. That makes no sense.

So this is a closed source coin with no open development? Why are basic questions about the code base being met with such antagonism? Why does everything have to be about money, fud and other bullshit? I thought this community was trying to test new ideas and and improve crypto currency.

We are. But quoting FUD back from May won't help. If you are really interested, I suggest you search this, the previous unmoderated topic, as well as the unmoderated XC topic(now deserted I think). You will find your answers there.
If you like open source coins so much there's always the next p&d coin which will most certainly help the scene with its trustful open source adoption.


The code has been peer reviewed by prominent members of the community, which you can find in topic as well.

Yes, let's call this an end. I've already told you the details of the situation. Yet you've now ignored my statement about XC's stance on open source and asked whether it's a "closed source coin". Read what I said, or else you just come across as a fudder.

However this is a good opportunity to fully state XC's stance on open source:

XC is committed to the open source model. Open source code is vital for the health and advancement of cryptographic technologies, and it is a privilege to share our technical breakthroughs with a community such as this. We believe that XC's code embodies several world-firsts enabling anonymity that is scalable, mobile-friendly, POS-integrated, and is ultimately a platform upon which a broad range of Blockchain 2.0 technologies will be built. However we have been under severe attack from competing projects. Furthermore people’s faith in altcoins is significantly hindered by clones. Therefore we believe that the ethical way to engage with the community is to make code available on a delayed timeline. This way, the community will still benefit from our work, while we'd reduce the incentive for developers to flood the marketplace with clones that lack a long term future and reduce the trustworthiness of the altcoin phenomenon. XC represents several market-leading innovations, and we are honoured to make these available to the community in the near future.

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July 04, 2014, 12:41:40 PM
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I'm interested in this coin but I was looking over the codebase, is there any reason you decided to remove the git history?

Obviously this was forked from another coin and for some reason the entire git history was removed and the codebase was pushed in one commit.

It is hard to follow what is going on and where it is coming from.



Obviously ALL Alt coins are FORKED versions of some other coin...  except Bitcoin, which was forked from Jesus himself.
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July 04, 2014, 12:42:26 PM
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can someone tell me if banks are open today in USA?
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July 04, 2014, 12:42:33 PM
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Yes, let's call this an end. I've already told you the details of the situation. Yet you've now ignored my statement about XC's stance on open source and asked whether it's a "closed source coin". Read what I said, or else you just come across as a fudder.

However this is a good opportunity to fully state XC's stance on open source:

XC is committed to the open source model. Open source code is vital for the health and advancement of cryptographic technologies, and it is a privilege to share our technical breakthroughs with a community such as this. We believe that XC's code embodies several world-firsts enabling anonymity that is scalable, mobile-friendly, POS-integrated, and is ultimately a platform upon which a broad range of Blockchain 2.0 technologies will be built. However we have been under severe attack from competing projects. Furthermore people’s faith in altcoins is significantly hindered by clones. Therefore we believe that the ethical way to engage with the community is to make code available on a delayed timeline. This way, the community will still benefit from our work, while we'd reduce the incentive for developers to flood the marketplace with clones that lack a long term future and reduce the trustworthiness of the altcoin phenomenon. XC represents several market-leading innovations, and we are honoured to make these available to the community in the near future.


Man, you have such nice writing skills!

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July 04, 2014, 12:43:16 PM
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Can somebody please explain to me what REV2 is?

the next wallet version which will enhance the anon functionality of the wallet. It will come with major PR related project overhauls concerning XC, and will be a big step towards XC's more advanced features.
So it will make the price of XC go boom?
Combined with mass XC exposure thanx to PR publicity, yeah! XC was pumped to 450k when most thought it was ur regular P&D, so imagine now.
Oke thanks for the answer
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July 04, 2014, 12:52:50 PM
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can someone tell me if banks are open today in USA?

hell nah braw
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July 04, 2014, 12:53:09 PM
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What a great Holiday... woke up, had a coffee, fired up the Ipad and saw I could buy XC below 19 again, picked up some more coins and also noticed the sell wall looks great.  Only 25 BTC to get to .00228 and the buy wall is giant...
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July 04, 2014, 12:57:21 PM
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What a great Holiday... woke up, had a coffee, fired up the Ipad and saw I could buy XC below 19 again, picked up some more coins and also noticed the sell wall looks great.  Only 25 BTC to get to .00228 and the buy wall is giant...

I have buy orders back in at 150sat.. if it ever gets there again.. but yes, time to stock up  more today
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July 04, 2014, 01:06:28 PM
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I'm interested in this coin but I was looking over the codebase, is there any reason you decided to remove the git history?

Obviously this was forked from another coin and for some reason the entire git history was removed and the codebase was pushed in one commit.

It is hard to follow what is going on and where it is coming from.



Obviously ALL Alt coins are FORKED versions of some other coin...  except Bitcoin, which was forked from Jesus himself.

ROFL   Cheesy
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July 04, 2014, 01:10:41 PM
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FUD me once shame on you, FUD me twice... Cheesy
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July 04, 2014, 01:17:40 PM
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XC multipool is a joke, right?
0.026858 XC per MH of X11 ? Seriously?

Not sure where you're pulling that figure from. You can't compare one MHs from one algo with another. e.g. you can't compare 1MHs for scrypt with 1MHs with Sha256 on a direct like for like basis.

As is it stands right now for the multipool we have something like this, as time goes on we will get a clearer picture of the profitability.

Scrypt   ~ 0.5 XC/MHs/Day

X11   ~ 0.5 to 1 XC/MHs/Day

SHA256   ~ 1.5 to 2 XC/MHs/Day

However this could be off now as these are based on XC being 0.0012 lol a lot has happened in the past 24 hours.

Happy 4th!

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I have been mining at the pool since it's inception with about 7 Mh/s scrypt & 15 Mh/s x11,  XY9AzsxrfbgpsPjnqEq3YyYGyzy273kyK6.  I have seen results close to the above  for scrypt, but x11 has been way behind. These are my payouts through July 3, Thursday:

scrypt:  18.42575
x11:        6.34761


These are for similar time periods; I'm pretty sure. I had them all pointed towards the XC pool almost the whole time that it's been up, as it's the first pool on my miners, with failover to another.  You state above that I should be earning x11 to scrypt at a ratio of greater than 1, in fact of between 1 and 2.  I've been earning 3 times as much scrypt for the same time periods.  So your statement above is WAY off.

Why do you think that is ?
The Beta-ness of the pool ?
Do you expect this to increase over time ?

Thanx,

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July 04, 2014, 01:18:51 PM
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What a great Holiday... woke up, had a coffee, fired up the Ipad and saw I could buy XC below 19 again, picked up some more coins and also noticed the sell wall looks great.  Only 25 BTC to get to .00228 and the buy wall is giant...

I have buy orders back in at 150sat.. if it ever gets there again.. but yes, time to stock up  more today

Doesn't look like will get there.   Sell wall is small. The last few days shook out some more weak hands.  BTC down a little, its a great time to buy.  

The thing I like most about this coin is that the mining is complete.  Other coins that have watched are fighting dilution.   They go up in value, it becomes more and more attractive to mine, and many sell as soon as they get the coins.   The supply of coins is increasing on a daily basis and this increases volume, and Market Cap, but puts downward pressure on the price.   I looked at some of these coins and thought about investing, but the price I pay per coin is much higher that a the cost of mining a coin.  This will eventually catch up and the price will slowly fluctuate up a down, with a longer term downward trend.  I am comparing this to traditional investment where if a stock splits, the price in turn doubles so the stock is not diluted.  So, why would I invest in a coin that added significant shares through continued mining, with no immediate price change, other than downward sell pressure due to miners wanting to recoup cost and see this as an income source/job.   I like XC because it rewards current coinholders with a dividend, like a traditional stock, that is usually kept in the account and not immediately sold.  Just trying to think through this... Does this make sense to you?
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July 04, 2014, 01:22:55 PM
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XC multipool is a joke, right?
0.026858 XC per MH of X11 ? Seriously?

Not sure where you're pulling that figure from. You can't compare one MHs from one algo with another. e.g. you can't compare 1MHs for scrypt with 1MHs with Sha256 on a direct like for like basis.

As is it stands right now for the multipool we have something like this, as time goes on we will get a clearer picture of the profitability.

Scrypt   ~ 0.5 XC/MHs/Day

X11   ~ 0.5 to 1 XC/MHs/Day

SHA256   ~ 1.5 to 2 XC/MHs/Day

However this could be off now as these are based on XC being 0.0012 lol a lot has happened in the past 24 hours.

Happy 4th!

Sta

I have been mining at the pool since it's inception with about 7 Mh/s scrypt & 15 Mh/s x11,  XY9AzsxrfbgpsPjnqEq3YyYGyzy273kyK6.  I have seen results close to the above  for scrypt, but x11 has been way behind. These are my payouts through July 3, Thursday:

scrypt:  18.42575
x11:        6.34761


These is for the same time periods.  You state above that I should be earning x11 to scrypt at a ratio of greater than 1, in fact of between 1 and 2.  I've been earning 3 times as much scrypt for the same time periods.  So your statement above is WAY off.

Why do you think that is ?
The Beta-ness of the pool ?
Do you expect this to increase ?

Thanx,


This sounds accurate, I was getting a larger payout on Scrypt for the same amount of work I was putting in on X11....   Been on X11 for awhile now, payut seems low :?
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July 04, 2014, 01:38:47 PM
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What a great Holiday... woke up, had a coffee, fired up the Ipad and saw I could buy XC below 19 again, picked up some more coins and also noticed the sell wall looks great.  Only 25 BTC to get to .00228 and the buy wall is giant...

I have buy orders back in at 150sat.. if it ever gets there again.. but yes, time to stock up  more today

Doesn't look like will get there.   Sell wall is small. The last few days shook out some more weak hands.  BTC down a little, its a great time to buy.  

The thing I like most about this coin is that the mining is complete.  Other coins that have watched are fighting dilution.   They go up in value, it becomes more and more attractive to mine, and many sell as soon as they get the coins.   The supply of coins is increasing on a daily basis and this increases volume, and Market Cap, but puts downward pressure on the price.   I looked at some of these coins and thought about investing, but the price I pay per coin is much higher that a the cost of mining a coin.  This will eventually catch up and the price will slowly fluctuate up a down, with a longer term downward trend.  I am comparing this to traditional investment where if a stock splits, the price in turn doubles so the stock is not diluted.  So, why would I invest in a coin that added significant shares through continued mining, with no immediate price change, other than downward sell pressure due to miners wanting to recoup cost and see this as an income source/job.   I like XC because it rewards current coinholders with a dividend, like a traditional stock, that is usually kept in the account and not immediately sold.  Just trying to think through this... Does this make sense to you?


You sir are spot on.

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July 04, 2014, 01:39:43 PM
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Yes, let's call this an end. I've already told you the details of the situation. Yet you've now ignored my statement about XC's stance on open source and asked whether it's a "closed source coin". Read what I said, or else you just come across as a fudder.

However this is a good opportunity to fully state XC's stance on open source:

XC is committed to the open source model. Open source code is vital for the health and advancement of cryptographic technologies, and it is a privilege to share our technical breakthroughs with a community such as this. We believe that XC's code embodies several world-firsts enabling anonymity that is scalable, mobile-friendly, POS-integrated, and is ultimately a platform upon which a broad range of Blockchain 2.0 technologies will be built. However we have been under severe attack from competing projects. Furthermore people’s faith in altcoins is significantly hindered by clones. Therefore we believe that the ethical way to engage with the community is to make code available on a delayed timeline. This way, the community will still benefit from our work, while we'd reduce the incentive for developers to flood the marketplace with clones that lack a long term future and reduce the trustworthiness of the altcoin phenomenon. XC represents several market-leading innovations, and we are honoured to make these available to the community in the near future.


Man, you have such nice writing skills!



Thank you very much.

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