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July 06, 2014, 08:36:53 PM
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I couldn't care less what the dev does with the pre-mine so long as the project delivers, which it has been doing.

I highly doubt a programmer of Dan's caliber and real world experience would be working his ass off for this coin if there wasn't a pre-mine.

This.  Plus Dan has already stated he is also using the premine to help fund development.
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July 06, 2014, 08:38:34 PM
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Can anyone tell me more about the premine? I see that it is on the address: XS4QLi6VpQQo79HLkoFBj5YZkn6p6TuLKG and current balance is 76797.637446. It state that 1261026.235632 was received and 1184228.598186 was sent. How come that large volume? And where can I find a motivation for every transaction? I'm just quite afraid of large premines after being scammed before, and the value of this is currently 210 btc ~= $133,770. That is pretty much and can easily ruin the market if being dumped.

Based on your previous post, it does appear your question is legitimate and you probably did get burned by Silk, however this is a much different coin.  You can read through my post if you like as someone looking at this from a traditional investing standpoint for more detail, however here are the big picture highlights of why this is different and has a bright future:

*Small initial premine that was transparent.  Some of this is used as promotion, but also there is enough to make it worthwhile to see this to fruition.
*Dev has under promised and over delivered each and every deadline.  This is documented.  I expect starting tomorrow this will continue.  
*Anonymity is fully functional and state of the art.  A bounty was given with the last release and was not claimed.
*Dev Team is also transparent with years of experience and great resumes
*Amount of coins is set, mining is complete.  A 3.3% year "dividend" will be distributed.  This will not cause dilution of the coin.
*The older this coin gets the more mature it has become.   The logo, the communication, the PR push and I suspect tomorrow the new wallet and website will be great.  The community is cohesive and understands this may be the one to be the Facebook to Myspace and could push Bitcoin for global acceptance in the future.
The end game is an accepted world wide currency that offers other platform services.

I hope to tell my grandchildren someday that I was part of the early community of XC.  As I have stated in the past, I will continue to believe in the fundamentals and hold until a I see a deviation in the plan.  Reading through many other coin threads, this is the only one I found that continues to deliver and deliver.  The team sees this as a true currency and has a solid plan thats being executed instead of a whitepaper full of hopes and dreams with a couple of kids in an apartment or dorm room hoping to make some quick cash.



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July 06, 2014, 08:40:37 PM
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I couldn't care less what the dev does with the pre-mine so long as the project delivers, which it has been doing.

I highly doubt a programmer of Dan's caliber and real world experience would be working his ass off for this coin if there wasn't a pre-mine.

This.  Plus Dan has already stated he is also using the premine to help fund development.

Can't go to those bitcoin conference and meet up with investors without any money.  Wink   I would say whatever money they have used to go to those things have been money well spent.

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July 06, 2014, 08:53:50 PM
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I couldn't care less what the dev does with the pre-mine so long as the project delivers, which it has been doing.

I highly doubt a programmer of Dan's caliber and real world experience would be working his ass off for this coin if there wasn't a pre-mine.

This.  Plus Dan has already stated he is also using the premine to help fund development.

And this:

I held a very small bag but thanks to Dan Da Man, its a pretty good little bag now!

The progress made so far has been nothing short of spectacular.  I actually never gave the pre-mine too much weight.  One can argue that the premine is worth a lot to worry about....  But what if the dev just never cared?  How much would the premine be worth now?

The man hired at least 3 or 4 coders to further advance the coin (if my memory serves me still), nothing comes for free...

Edit:  There are early miners who just mined on faith from the start and have a lot more than the premine....Lucky "basterds" lol
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July 06, 2014, 09:13:04 PM
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Can anyone tell me more about the premine? I see that it is on the address: XS4QLi6VpQQo79HLkoFBj5YZkn6p6TuLKG and current balance is 76797.637446. It state that 1261026.235632 was received and 1184228.598186 was sent. How come that large volume? And where can I find a motivation for every transaction? I'm just quite afraid of large premines after being scammed before, and the value of this is currently 210 btc ~= $133,770. That is pretty much and can easily ruin the market if being dumped.

Based on your previous post, it does appear your question is legitimate and you probably did get burned by Silk, however this is a much different coin.  You can read through my post if you like as someone looking at this from a traditional investing standpoint for more detail, however here are the big picture highlights of why this is different and has a bright future:

*Small initial premine that was transparent.  Some of this is used as promotion, but also there is enough to make it worthwhile to see this to fruition.
*Dev has under promised and over delivered each and every deadline.  This is documented.  I expect starting tomorrow this will continue.  
*Anonymity is fully functional and state of the art.  A bounty was given with the last release and was not claimed.
*Dev Team is also transparent with years of experience and great resumes
*Amount of coins is set, mining is complete.  A 3.3% year "dividend" will be distributed.  This will not cause dilution of the coin.
*The older this coin gets the more mature it has become.   The logo, the communication, the PR push and I suspect tomorrow the new wallet and website will be great.  The community is cohesive and understands this may be the one to be the Facebook to Myspace and could push Bitcoin for global acceptance in the future.
The end game is an accepted world wide currency that offers other platform services.

I hope to tell my grandchildren someday that I was part of the early community of XC.  As I have stated in the past, I will continue to believe in the fundamentals and hold until a I see a deviation in the plan.  Reading through many other coin threads, this is the only one I found that continues to deliver and deliver.  The team sees this as a true currency and has a solid plan thats being executed instead of a whitepaper full of hopes and dreams with a couple of kids in an apartment or dorm room hoping to make some quick cash.



Thank you very much, great explanation. I also agree that a premine that is used correctly will help a coin to survive, as it appears to be in this case. It will be really interesting to follow the development of XC. Good luck to you!
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July 06, 2014, 09:17:50 PM
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Can anyone tell me more about the premine? I see that it is on the address: XS4QLi6VpQQo79HLkoFBj5YZkn6p6TuLKG and current balance is 76797.637446. It state that 1261026.235632 was received and 1184228.598186 was sent. How come that large volume? And where can I find a motivation for every transaction? I'm just quite afraid of large premines after being scammed before, and the value of this is currently 210 btc ~= $133,770. That is pretty much and can easily ruin the market if being dumped.

Based on your previous post, it does appear your question is legitimate and you probably did get burned by Silk, however this is a much different coin.  You can read through my post if you like as someone looking at this from a traditional investing standpoint for more detail, however here are the big picture highlights of why this is different and has a bright future:

*Small initial premine that was transparent.  Some of this is used as promotion, but also there is enough to make it worthwhile to see this to fruition.
*Dev has under promised and over delivered each and every deadline.  This is documented.  I expect starting tomorrow this will continue.  
*Anonymity is fully functional and state of the art.  A bounty was given with the last release and was not claimed.
*Dev Team is also transparent with years of experience and great resumes
*Amount of coins is set, mining is complete.  A 3.3% year "dividend" will be distributed.  This will not cause dilution of the coin.
*The older this coin gets the more mature it has become.   The logo, the communication, the PR push and I suspect tomorrow the new wallet and website will be great.  The community is cohesive and understands this may be the one to be the Facebook to Myspace and could push Bitcoin for global acceptance in the future.
The end game is an accepted world wide currency that offers other platform services.

I hope to tell my grandchildren someday that I was part of the early community of XC.  As I have stated in the past, I will continue to believe in the fundamentals and hold until a I see a deviation in the plan.  Reading through many other coin threads, this is the only one I found that continues to deliver and deliver.  The team sees this as a true currency and has a solid plan thats being executed instead of a whitepaper full of hopes and dreams with a couple of kids in an apartment or dorm room hoping to make some quick cash.



Thank you very much, great explanation. I also agree that a premine that is used correctly will help a coin to survive, as it appears to be in this case. It will be really interesting to follow the development of XC. Good luck to you!

This is just in it's infancy... You are more than welcome to become part of this awesome opportunity1
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July 06, 2014, 09:18:29 PM
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XC 1/3 of Mintpal last 24H volume, wow!

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July 06, 2014, 09:21:30 PM
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Thank you very much, great explanation. I also agree that a premine that is used correctly will help a coin to survive, as it appears to be in this case. It will be really interesting to follow the development of XC. Good luck to you!

This is just in it's infancy... You are more than welcome to become part of this awesome opportunity1

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July 06, 2014, 09:26:04 PM
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I was debating between CLOAK and XC.  CLOAK is fumbling through a fork as we speak and I was thinking about buying into that, but after hearing in their IRC chatroom that the dev has family over and can't attend to the current crisis they're having, I bought XC instead.  Can't wait to see what happens with this one.

I own both but cloak has a market cap of less than 1/5th of XC which is hard to compare and will have a very different risk/reward prospect for new investors.
Also impressed with the transparency if a dev is willing to communicate issues without remaining silent like many others.

I believe both coins offer unique functions of which there is a demand and a high probability of success.

Good luck to all pioneers! Cheesy
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July 06, 2014, 09:26:11 PM
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XC 1/3 of Mintpal last 24H volume, wow!
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July 06, 2014, 09:26:16 PM
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Can anyone tell me more about the premine? I see that it is on the address: XS4QLi6VpQQo79HLkoFBj5YZkn6p6TuLKG and current balance is 76797.637446. It state that 1261026.235632 was received and 1184228.598186 was sent. How come that large volume? And where can I find a motivation for every transaction? I'm just quite afraid of large premines after being scammed before, and the value of this is currently 210 btc ~= $133,770. That is pretty much and can easily ruin the market if being dumped.

The premine is being used to fund xc, as well as Dan's personal funds. Our team's name is out there and you can find out more: http://xc-official.com/XCPlatform/14-06-16%20Team%20Announcement%20D.pdf . I personally have a proven track record of trustworthines, before xc and dan was a member on here before xc. I believe that we have gained another trust where this no longer an issue to many people.

Also, Dan mentioned that it was split into smaller address to help with staking.

just to confirm  --

I see you sold most of your coins at 240.. must suck.. not too late to buy back before we push pass 003.  

See post from ATCSecure.. the address is also used for staking my friend.. not to worry.. just buy!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=630547.msg7057964#msg7057964

I sold 7K of my stash back in the day for like 6K lol

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July 06, 2014, 09:27:57 PM
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I was debating between CLOAK and XC.  CLOAK is fumbling through a fork as we speak and I was thinking about buying into that, but after hearing in their IRC chatroom that the dev has family over and can't attend to the current crisis they're having, I bought XC instead.  Can't wait to see what happens with this one.

I own both but cloak has a market cap of less than 1/5th of XC which is hard to compare and will have a very different risk/reward prospect for new investors.
Also impressed with the transparency if a dev is willing to communicate issues without remaining silent like many others.

I believe both coins offer unique functions of which there is a demand and a high probability of success.

Good luck to all pioneers! Cheesy
Cloak does not roll off the tongue as well as XC.... when you tell someone cloak they think of bad things... There is a lot in a name too.... dont get me wrong I have nothing personal on cloak, but what I say is a marketing fact.

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July 06, 2014, 09:29:21 PM
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I couldn't care less what the dev does with the pre-mine so long as the project delivers, which it has been doing.

I highly doubt a programmer of Dan's caliber and real world experience would be working his ass off for this coin if there wasn't a pre-mine.

This.  Plus Dan has already stated he is also using the premine to help fund development.

And this:

I held a very small bag but thanks to Dan Da Man, its a pretty good little bag now!

The progress made so far has been nothing short of spectacular.  I actually never gave the pre-mine too much weight.  One can argue that the premine is worth a lot to worry about....  But what if the dev just never cared?  How much would the premine be worth now?

The man hired at least 3 or 4 coders to further advance the coin (if my memory serves me still), nothing comes for free...

Edit:  There are early miners who just mined on faith from the start and have a lot more than the premine....Lucky "basterds" lol
         You should fear "CryptoG" and "BrewCrew" more  Grin


If people are worried about the premine they also should be worried about us early adapters if nothing else lol.

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July 06, 2014, 09:31:13 PM
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I was debating between CLOAK and XC.  CLOAK is fumbling through a fork as we speak and I was thinking about buying into that, but after hearing in their IRC chatroom that the dev has family over and can't attend to the current crisis they're having, I bought XC instead.  Can't wait to see what happens with this one.

I own both but cloak has a market cap of less than 1/5th of XC which is hard to compare and will have a very different risk/reward prospect for new investors.
Also impressed with the transparency if a dev is willing to communicate issues without remaining silent like many others.

I believe both coins offer unique functions of which there is a demand and a high probability of success.

Good luck to all pioneers! Cheesy
Cloak does not roll off the tongue as well as XC.... when you tell someone cloak they think of bad things... There is a lot in a name too.... dont get me wrong I have nothing personal on cloak, but what I say is a marketing fact.

I won't engage in further discussion about coins other than XC but what you said about names is rubbish. I look at the top coins with the largest market cap and they all have shocking/laughable names.
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July 06, 2014, 09:36:59 PM
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Guys, does anybody know,
1. When rev.2 multipath will be released?
2. When source of XC coin will be opened?

Maybe an official roadmap on official site is available? Couldn't find it.

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July 06, 2014, 09:38:35 PM
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What time will REV 2 be released GMT+1?
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July 06, 2014, 09:41:31 PM
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Is there an updated roadmap?

Haven't seen the OP main dev post for a while.

He posts here when hes not out networking or writing code.  Trust me, he is busy.
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July 06, 2014, 09:46:22 PM
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Hi all

Just to let you know that pratico has now sent me his first $500 donation for the paid Rev 2 press release!

You can confirm the payment here: 19G6JSgvGDHeeRwJDuZhpeXUMMiQP2X3oc

I then exchanged it for USD and sent it to the MasterCard that will pay for the release. The transfer fee was 3% and so the resulting amount in USD is $486.87.

I'll use driv3n's $100 donation to cover the outstanding amount (which is what I did for the previous press release). Thanks again Driv3n!


An enormous thanks to pratico for such a substantial contribution toward sending XC moonward.


Hurrah!

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Hurrah!
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July 06, 2014, 09:49:58 PM
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Hi all

Just to let you know that pratico has now sent me his first $500 donation for the paid Rev 2 press release!

You can confirm the payment here: 19G6JSgvGDHeeRwJDuZhpeXUMMiQP2X3oc

I then exchanged it for USD and sent it to the MasterCard that will pay for the release. The transfer fee was 3% and so the resulting amount in USD is $486.87.

I'll use driv3n's $100 donation to cover the outstanding amount (which is what I did for the previous press release). Thanks again Driv3n!


An enormous thanks to pratico for such a substantial contribution toward sending XC moonward.


Hurrah!


Remember that if the community donates a total of $500 for a paid release for Rev 2.5, then pratico will donate ANOTHER $500!

We're not too far off the target. By all means, donate $20, or whatever you see fit, and let's put XC into the mainstream.


Here's the idea:

- buy XC

- have some money left over to donate to XC's PR

- watch the donation make your trade go to the moon





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