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June 24, 2014, 03:01:33 AM
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I'm curious that extremepool.org shows I have a Total Paid, but my wallet shows a zero balance after refresh.  It hasn't been very long, but my experience with XMR on a couple different pools was immediate.

I'm further curious as to why the block reward is not always 320000, but usually some much smaller amount.
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June 24, 2014, 03:30:20 AM
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I'm curious that extremepool.org shows I have a Total Paid, but my wallet shows a zero balance after refresh.  It hasn't been very long, but my experience with XMR on a couple different pools was immediate.

I'm further curious as to why the block reward is not always 320000, but usually some much smaller amount.

if you don't understand why the block reward isn't always the same read the op or the white papers it is explained..
as far as not receiving coins yet once the pool pays them I have been told the block chain is taking an extremely long time to sync up.  I transferred some coins to poloniex earlier today and took about 6 hours.

http://www.extremepool.org (BCN) (MRO) (QCN) (XDN) (BBR) (AEON) (ORION) (DSH) (CRR) (INF8)
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June 24, 2014, 04:13:52 AM
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I'm curious that extremepool.org shows I have a Total Paid, but my wallet shows a zero balance after refresh.  It hasn't been very long, but my experience with XMR on a couple different pools was immediate.

I'm further curious as to why the block reward is not always 320000, but usually some much smaller amount.

if you don't understand why the block reward isn't always the same read the op or the white papers it is explained..
as far as not receiving coins yet once the pool pays them I have been told the block chain is taking an extremely long time to sync up.  I transferred some coins to poloniex earlier today and took about 6 hours.

Thank you for attempting to provide some answers, but I'm afraid my curiosity is not yet satisfied.  I found an obscure link in the OP, http://ducknote.org/aboutduckNote, and in it one obscure footnote that says the block reward can vary, apart from halving:  "*Supply chart has an accurate, but approximate values, because block reward for some blocks can be lower than base reward due the big sized block penalties."

That's not much of an explanation; a proper explanation would address why large blocks are penalized, what the reward variance can be, and how often it might be expected to happen.  By observation, the answer to both the latter two is "a lot".

You say "white papers"--could you perhaps provide more clues as to where additional writings reside?

As to block chain sync being the reason for non-existent or slow payment, I don't think so.  My wallet and the pool are reporting the same block height.  I think that extremepool is not actually paying out right now, and that it is likely not something nefarious, but rather that something is broken.
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June 24, 2014, 04:23:27 AM
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I am not sure but either there is an issue with this coin or there two pools are extremely sketchy:
1. Extremepool
Pending Balance: 0.00000000 XDN
 Total Paid: 12.13879839 XDN
 Last Share Submitted: a day ago
 Hash Rate: 0 H/sec
 Total Hashes Submitted: 3577600

No payout since 24hrs +

2. Hashharder
 Last Share Submitted: a day ago
 Hash Rate: 0 H/sec
 Total Hashes Submitted: 508669000
 Total Paid: 0.00000000 DUCK

No payout since 24+ hrs

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June 24, 2014, 04:27:13 AM
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I am not sure but either there is an issue with this coin or there two pools are extremely sketchy:
1. Extremepool
Pending Balance: 0.00000000 XDN
 Total Paid: 12.13879839 XDN
 Last Share Submitted: a day ago
 Hash Rate: 0 H/sec
 Total Hashes Submitted: 3577600

No payout since 24hrs +

2. Hashharder
 Last Share Submitted: a day ago
 Hash Rate: 0 H/sec
 Total Hashes Submitted: 508669000
 Total Paid: 0.00000000 DUCK

No payout since 24+ hrs

Because no block was found yet in that pool lol.
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June 24, 2014, 05:19:15 AM
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pool found block but no pay?

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June 24, 2014, 05:22:24 AM
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the price is too low on bittrex~~~~~~

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June 24, 2014, 05:24:44 AM
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I am not sure but either there is an issue with this coin or there two pools are extremely sketchy:
1. Extremepool
Pending Balance: 0.00000000 XDN
 Total Paid: 12.13879839 XDN
 Last Share Submitted: a day ago
 Hash Rate: 0 H/sec
 Total Hashes Submitted: 3577600

No payout since 24hrs +

2. Hashharder
 Last Share Submitted: a day ago
 Hash Rate: 0 H/sec
 Total Hashes Submitted: 508669000
 Total Paid: 0.00000000 DUCK

No payout since 24+ hrs

no block no pay you mus be join in pool with high hasrate
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June 24, 2014, 05:29:54 AM
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I'm curious that extremepool.org shows I have a Total Paid, but my wallet shows a zero balance after refresh.  It hasn't been very long, but my experience with XMR on a couple different pools was immediate.

I'm further curious as to why the block reward is not always 320000, but usually some much smaller amount.

if you don't understand why the block reward isn't always the same read the op or the white papers it is explained..
as far as not receiving coins yet once the pool pays them I have been told the block chain is taking an extremely long time to sync up.  I transferred some coins to poloniex earlier today and took about 6 hours.

Thank you for attempting to provide some answers, but I'm afraid my curiosity is not yet satisfied.  I found an obscure link in the OP, http://ducknote.org/aboutduckNote, and in it one obscure footnote that says the block reward can vary, apart from halving:  "*Supply chart has an accurate, but approximate values, because block reward for some blocks can be lower than base reward due the big sized block penalties."

That's not much of an explanation; a proper explanation would address why large blocks are penalized, what the reward variance can be, and how often it might be expected to happen.  By observation, the answer to both the latter two is "a lot".

You say "white papers"--could you perhaps provide more clues as to where additional writings reside?

As to block chain sync being the reason for non-existent or slow payment, I don't think so.  My wallet and the pool are reporting the same block height.  I think that extremepool is not actually paying out right now, and that it is likely not something nefarious, but rather that something is broken.


this has been explained in this thread but here it is againExplanation:


1. BLOCK_REWARD = BASE_REWARD(currently = 320000XDN) -  BLOCK_SIZE_PENALTY (Normal block should be < 32000, in other case block reward will be lower than expected)

Here is the block 8160:
https://minergate.com/blockchain/duck/block/b7239e7406e85a1e17965778c29d999fdc98fd2793d233f641b971280ea7628e

Block Size 91514 that is > 32000, because of 10 big transactions, so reward for that block is lower than expected. That is a normal situation for all CryptoNote coins.


as far as there being in thing wrong with the pool I can assure there is not anything abnormal that I am aware of, it takes time for the coins to appear in your wallet.   

http://www.extremepool.org (BCN) (MRO) (QCN) (XDN) (BBR) (AEON) (ORION) (DSH) (CRR) (INF8)
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June 24, 2014, 05:32:07 AM
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I am not sure but either there is an issue with this coin or there two pools are extremely sketchy:
1. Extremepool
Pending Balance: 0.00000000 XDN
 Total Paid: 12.13879839 XDN
 Last Share Submitted: a day ago
 Hash Rate: 0 H/sec
 Total Hashes Submitted: 3577600

No payout since 24hrs +

2. Hashharder
 Last Share Submitted: a day ago
 Hash Rate: 0 H/sec
 Total Hashes Submitted: 508669000
 Total Paid: 0.00000000 DUCK

No payout since 24+ hrs

Because no block was found yet in that pool lol.

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i got almost 400k already for mining for half a day.

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June 24, 2014, 05:37:48 AM
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the in total for the coin is interesting.
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June 24, 2014, 05:41:00 AM
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i got almost 400k already for mining for half a day.

What's your H/s ?

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June 24, 2014, 06:15:24 AM
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the price is too low on bittrex~~~~~~

Let's wait for some sharks to pump ;-)
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June 24, 2014, 06:17:20 AM
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i got almost 400k already for mining for half a day.

What's your H/s ?

only 5500h/s

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June 24, 2014, 06:20:41 AM
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i got almost 400k already for mining for half a day.

What's your H/s ?

only 5500h/s

That is GPU?
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June 24, 2014, 06:23:11 AM
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yeah, 15 gpus.

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June 24, 2014, 06:27:38 AM
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which miner are you using?
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June 24, 2014, 06:29:23 AM
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well, duh.

only claymore.

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June 24, 2014, 08:28:42 AM
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I bought 1000000 XDN at 0.00000006 and sold at 0.00000010
Then bought in again 1600000 at 0.00000006.
I can't believe people are selling this cheap.
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June 24, 2014, 08:51:27 AM
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I bought 1000000 XDN at 0.00000006 and sold at 0.00000010
Then bought in again 1600000 at 0.00000006.
I can't believe people are selling this cheap.

I've missed the 30 train yesterday, keeping them until at least 24.
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