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Author Topic: [ANN] FIMK: 2.5G POS, extra block rewards, messaging, asset colors, p2p shopping  (Read 179425 times)
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June 16, 2015, 10:24:33 AM
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It would be nice if the FIM wallet was a bit more streamlined (it's kind of clunky and slow) and easy to use... also would be good to stop brandishing the silly mofowallet name.

I agree to that.  Except for the slow part (do you mean the page takes a long time to load initially?). The focus of mofowallet has been mostly at the platform level (translation mechanism, provider mechanism, websockets, live feedback everywhere, modular UI approach - basically doing it the proper angular way).
I'm no UI designer we will hire one when the time is ready but for any UI designer to do anything he needs something he/she can work on, the Angular approach and the strict MVC design allow a designer to basically work on the HTML only. All the javascript (and it's a lot) can stay as is because of the strict separation of the model, view and controller parts.

Edit: Where are you situated if I might ask? In my country even on mobiles 4G/3G the hosted version loads in a few seconds and when all the JS was loaded subsequent loads are almost instant. Are in China by any chance? If so I might have an idea what is causing this.


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June 16, 2015, 10:30:42 AM
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Thank you for the update. Nice to see progress!

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June 16, 2015, 11:14:04 AM
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Thank you for the update. Nice to see progress!

Progress has been picking up since the start, we're getting more comfortable with the platform every day.
But I agree that it might not have been showing that much, as was said before FIMK is not about pumping we have a long term vision and for that to become a reality a lot of 'boring' low level work has to be done first.
Some of that work would not have been possible before since a new platform has to be mastered first.

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One more thing about the new account identifiers. It might have appeared as if everything has to go through our centralized (delegated would be a better word) verification process.
That is not the case, everyone can assign their own name@fimk.fi address. It is also possible to assign a @fimk.fi address to an account you don't own but for that you have to provide a digital signature signed by the owner of the account you are assigning the id to.
All this functionality will be easily available from all the various clients.

The name@fimk.fi addresses will also be fully functional email addresses to which you can send an email. Hosting for those addresses will be provided by the Krypto Fin ry association free of charge and will allow for a whole new set of possibilities (send FIMK to email, get blockchain notifications, fully encrypted emails and 2FA are only but a few).

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June 18, 2015, 05:36:45 AM
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June 18, 2015, 09:28:03 AM
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Spotted this at fimk-forum https://forum.fimk.fi/index.php?topic=589.0

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June 18, 2015, 10:28:29 AM
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Top account holders.  Sell to this man!  Because you want jl777 on board with FIM.  He knows what he is doing, has good ideas and gets things done.

This is a buy signal for me personally: jl777 knows his stuff.

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June 18, 2015, 11:27:39 AM
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Hi James, nice to see you here!  Cheesy

Top account holders.  Sell to this man!  Because you want jl777 on board with FIM.  He knows what he is doing, has good ideas and gets things done.

I agree.

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June 18, 2015, 12:04:24 PM
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I've had some reports of the copying issue. Thats OSX right?

Yes.  Would be great if you can fix it.

But the main method of login will consist of secret URL's that embed the encrypted passphrase in the url, so you'll need to place that url on your toolbar or something or save it somewhere.

Sounds a little scary, but I wil reserve judgement until after I see it.

We have completed the Private Assets feature which has been running on testnet for a while now. It has been used for demoing purposes by Eliphaz his banking contacts.

Thump!  I just passed out and hit the floor.  These are amazing developments.  I am curious how you maintain security with these virtual exchanges and how it fits in with the main blockchain.  Are they decentralized?

It sounds like FIM could be a dark horse, actually backed by innovative ideas and serious developers.

These are major developments that I would not have suspected were going on@

Tho... I've always liked FIM and supported it. I knew something was coming (hero members post to this thread), but would not have suspected developments on this scale.  Solving the block reward issue with NXT showed some promise... but this takes things to a whole new level, with lots of disruptive possibilities.

Are you working on any kind of cross-chain trading mechanism?

The FIM-XXX address will probably remain working forever but all new things we do will focus on the new identifiers. In the current implementation you can have multiple identifiers point to a single account.

Better be.  Anything else is centralized.  Anonymity is an essential part of cryptocurrency.

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June 18, 2015, 01:28:34 PM
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Top account holders.  Sell to this man!  Because you want jl777 on board with FIM.  He knows what he is doing, has good ideas and gets things done.

This is a buy signal for me personally: jl777 knows his stuff.

I sell 3500000 FIMK to jl777 - enjoy

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June 18, 2015, 01:34:08 PM
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WTB FIMK in bulk.

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Top account holders.  Sell to this man!  Because you want jl777 on board with FIM.  He knows what he is doing, has good ideas and gets things done.

This is a buy signal for me personally: jl777 knows his stuff.

I sell 3500000 FIMK to jl777 - enjoy
yes, thanks.
I got FIMK during IPO, I couldnt get it to work for a while, but the latest version worked fine and it was pretty interesting, so I decided to increase my personal stake.

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June 18, 2015, 02:15:24 PM
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But the main method of login will consist of secret URL's that embed the encrypted passphrase in the url, so you'll need to place that url on your toolbar or something or save it somewhere.

Sounds a little scary, but I will reserve judgement until after I see it.

Nothing is ever send to the server your key remains client side. Many other crypto projects are doing the same thing.
Plus there is basically no difference between either having an encrypted file with your passphrase in it or having a URL with the encrypted passphrase, the latter is just easier to work with.
Of course if you need top security for critical accounts the whole brain wallet mechanism remains fully intact, the new developments are more geared to lowering the barrier for when we start developing UI and apps for the average Joe kinda user.

We have completed the Private Assets feature which has been running on testnet for a while now. It has been used for demoing purposes by Eliphaz his banking contacts.

Thump!  I just passed out and hit the floor.  These are amazing developments.  I am curious how you maintain security with these virtual exchanges and how it fits in with the main blockchain.  Are they decentralized?

There is zero risk involved here, all it is basically trying to do is bring the dynamism as is known in the P2P network (which goes beyond the reality we see each time a block is forged) directly to the client.
So in a way the client 1-on-1 reflects whatever is happening on the network.
For this to be possible websocket support had to be added first, which we did a while back the virtual layer now completes it (although it has to be tuned more).

Are you working on any kind of cross-chain trading mechanism?

Asset to asset (as opposed to asset to fimk) trading is what we have been preparing for.

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June 18, 2015, 07:31:40 PM
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There is a #FIMK channel on the supernet slack for anyone interested.

Go here to get an invite http://slackinvite.supernet.org/

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June 19, 2015, 05:33:25 AM
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Nothing is ever send to the server your key remains client side. Many other crypto projects are doing the same thing.

The part that worries me is a mistyped URL.  Most browsers send mistyped URLs (in this case containing your password) directly to a search engine.

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June 26, 2015, 09:41:10 AM
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Nothing is ever send to the server your key remains client side. Many other crypto projects are doing the same thing.

The part that worries me is a mistyped URL.  Most browsers send mistyped URLs (in this case containing your password) directly to a search engine.

The URL's involved are not of the sort you could actually type, they are too long for typing as you can see in the example URL.

Example url (does not work since hosted mofowallet does not run the development version): https://www.mofowallet.com/launch.html#/login/7b0a2020226374223a2022677051734f6b6d506364634b69704c682f34366268644e39624839307970646c6d30766349324c456e334854454b7435766a3074306f2f67726b7367555061666647546e4e52544e31506a726a6f54722b2b416e69483363367a797253396950794a3449526b396b2b71714a4e316c6e54494549416b32453946664f34656f353942762f7a7476783639342b556471436e77302b61413d3d222c0a2020226976223a20226334626462343265366565366261613366393336333061616531353262343735222c0a20202273223a202235346265303034653634363038393132220a7d

You are right that typing it wrong could potentially send the whole thing to a search engine (encrypted) but what is the chance of that happening when clicking the link or pasting it in the url bar?
Copy pasting your secret phrase could in a way also be potentially dangerous, if the key is still on your clipboard and you press paste (CTRL-V) in either the url bar or the search bar it is also send to the search engine but now it's unencrypted, this is how things are done now in both FIMK and NXT.

The wallet part in the URL is not send to the mofowallet.com domain. All the mofowallet.com server will see in it's request logs is everything up to the # sign in the URL. This is how all browsers (or better yet the HTTP protocol) works, everything after the # sign stays only client side.

When you land on hosted mofowallet users are asked to unlock the wallet and are then presented with ways to store the (encrypted) key in the browser local storage or to download a file backup. This method is especially easy when using a mobile/small device where all you need to do is click a link you emailed yourself to transfer your keys to your mobile.

Users are asked to unlock their wallet.


Users are asked to name the account and to make a backup.

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June 26, 2015, 01:22:01 PM
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You are right that typing it wrong could potentially send the whole thing to a search engine (encrypted) but what is the chance of that happening when clicking the link or pasting it in the url bar?

It's not encrypted at google's end and there's nothing stopping a google employee from seeing this search in the logs or database and then saying "thank you very much for all your FIM!"

Copy pasting your secret phrase could in a way also be potentially dangerous, if the key is still on your clipboard and you press paste (CTRL-V) in either the url bar or the search bar it is also send to the search engine but now it's unencrypted, this is how things are done now in both FIMK and NXT.

Not really. Most password safes clear the clipboard 30sec after you copy a password specifically to mitigate this risk.

Don't get me wrong. I understand there's not much you can do.  Security versus ease of use is an age old battle, but err on the side of security.

Keep up the good work.  I'm interested to see the real-time exchange once it's ready.

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July 06, 2015, 12:21:03 PM
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We are preparing the upcoming release, part of this release is NXT-PLUS based on 1.5.12 and with the virtual exchange enabled.
Assets can be found by typing part of the name or description in the filter box.



Try it out here:
https://www.mofowallet.com/launch.html#/activity/nxt/assets/latest

The new UI is (at the moment) only available on hosted mofowallet, expect some downtime from time to time while we upload new versions.



Try it out here:
https://www.mofowallet.com/launch.html#/assets/nxt/12071612744977229797/trade

Theme switcher still available under settings menu, current default theme is named "Google", if you used hosted mofowallet before you will still have "Yeti" theme selected. This theme is named "Slate", total of 19 themes available.



The upcoming Private Assets feature (FIMK only) and the new Email Account Identifiers (FIMK only) are available in the java server code but have not been turned on yet. For this a hard fork is required which will likely be happening in the coming weeks.

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July 06, 2015, 12:57:40 PM
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Some more info on the topic:
http://fimkchat.com/2015/07/enabling-virtual-exchange-on-nxt/

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July 11, 2015, 01:53:35 PM
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Q: What good is a an encrypted mobile chat app without emoji support?
A: Not much  Grin

Thats why we support the full-set. Either type the colon format code (if you know it), use smiley faces etc.
Or select one from the menu (as shown below).



Now combine our on-blockchain encrypted messaging with our free encrypted/anonymous transient messaging and I believe we a have a winner.
Better start dumping those WhatsApp stocks  Cheesy

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July 26, 2015, 04:57:53 PM
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Now combine our on-blockchain encrypted messaging with our free encrypted/anonymous
For how long mofowallet on mofowallet.com will be forging after I'll enter my FIM/NXT passphrase? Until server reboot / until I close the browser / other time?

Is it possible already to transfer aliases between accounts?
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July 26, 2015, 05:09:32 PM
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Forging on mofowallet.com is not possible.
For alias transfer go to your account page look up the aliases page click the transfer button next to the alias.

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