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November 04, 2014, 08:37:24 PM
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Did you guys seriously pushed a release that has a default wallet that can't send to a new address?
(public key is needed but there is no field to provide it)

We have a public faucet plugin available in both the downloadable mofowallet and the online version.

This links directly to the faucet plugin https://fimkrypto.github.io/mofo/launch.html#/plugins/faucet

We also have integrated the public key publishing for new accounts in the UI of mofowallet there is an extended explanation here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=633304.msg9428841#msg9428841.

Finally in mofowallet support has been added for a new address format called a publish addresses. To send FIMK or NXT to an account without a published public key simply add the public key to the address separated with a : symbol. That format is accepted everywhere in Mofowallet.

Example: FIM-KXHG-U8SX-XPA9-9GU6V:24e6e437ecbf5c0921d7ac30d37614c6a3689b5ace0a980a995ec8c6463af216

Support for the default client is being phased out and it is unlikely we'll be investing time in that apart from necessary security updates.

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November 04, 2014, 09:38:25 PM
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Support for the default client is being phased out and it is unlikely we'll be investing time in that apart from necessary security updates.

I actually appreciate the direction that you are taking with the public key issue and the mofowallet, and other developments (this is the reason I'm patently sitting on millions of FIMK) but the fact remains. You bundled 0.3.1 with a wallet that has no way of sending transactions to an unknown address. At least you could've modified the message in the client to let the users know, that this is not a bug, it's just not supported, so do this for alternative.

I'm especiall not happy about this because I'm developing a service that will also accept FIMK and this is a problem as I'll generate a brand new address for every user. No one will be able to use it at the time being, unless they use mofowallet. (Or unless I publish the key myself for every newly generated address, but that is extra development I don't want.)

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November 04, 2014, 09:42:01 PM
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15 more blocks to 203000!  

(Block explorer seems stuck again.  Info according to explorer in Mofo Wallet)

Update to 0.3 NOW if you are forging.

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EDIT: now how can I be sure that I'm forging in MOFO wallet? It says that I am forging, but when I click on it and then on "start forging", it says "Forging started" but the pop up window does not close except if I press on "Cancel".

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November 04, 2014, 10:34:23 PM
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Support for the default client is being phased out and it is unlikely we'll be investing time in that apart from necessary security updates.

I actually appreciate the direction that you are taking with the public key issue and the mofowallet, and other developments (this is the reason I'm patently sitting on millions of FIMK) but the fact remains. You bundled 0.3.1 with a wallet that has no way of sending transactions to an unknown address. At least you could've modified the message in the client to let the users know, that this is not a bug, it's just not supported, so do this for alternative.

I'm especiall not happy about this because I'm developing a service that will also accept FIMK and this is a problem as I'll generate a brand new address for every user. No one will be able to use it at the time being, unless they use mofowallet. (Or unless I publish the key myself for every newly generated address, but that is extra development I don't want.)

You have a point about the missing instruction. We'll see what can be done.

Can you tell more about the service you are working on?

EDIT: now how can I be sure that I'm forging in MOFO wallet? It says that I am forging, but when I click on it and then on "start forging", it says "Forging started" but the pop up window does not close except if I press on "Cancel".

Clicking Cancel will not stop the forging it only closes the dialog.
The forging UI and UX is on the list of being changed, these first days after launch gave some better insights in how we should do that, I agree it's not as clear as it should be.

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November 04, 2014, 10:53:39 PM
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I'll generate a brand new address for every user. No one will be able to use it at the time being, unless they use mofowallet.
Old wallet [frontend client] will no longer be supported, all FIMK users old and new are pushed to use Mofowallet which is included with the downloadable FIMK server starting from the next release.

The chances of many people being unable to use your freshly generated addresses will be thus slim in the near future.

         
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November 05, 2014, 09:44:58 AM
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Can you tell more about the service you are working on?

It's a paid P2P Q&A site, based on crypto instead of FIAT. We are a few months away from open beta.

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November 05, 2014, 02:10:16 PM
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.. all FIMK users old and new are pushed to use Mofowallet
- can I install Mofowallet on my VPS ?  - did not found instruction at http://www.mofowallet.com/

I need to access Mofowallet on my VPS via my tablet's browser, just as I'm accessing NRS at my VPS now.

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November 05, 2014, 03:30:28 PM
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- can I install Mofowallet on my VPS ?  - did not found instruction at http://www.mofowallet.com/
Yes you can, just download https://github.com/fimkrypto/mofowallet/archive/master.zip to your VPS.

The app folder should contain mofowallet UI html and js files.

         
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November 05, 2014, 08:55:46 PM
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A question: I withdrew ~30,000 FIMK (the first FIMK I bought) from DGEX 1-2 days ago to my address FIM-XZXB-V4LF-ZU82-44RPX

The problem is the FIMK haven't yet shown up in my wallet. At the time of my withdrawal I was using the client I downloaded from your website. This was the first transfer I have sent to this address. Then I started using the wallet here: https://fimkrypto.github.io/mofo/launch.html The transfer does not show up in the mofo wallet either. To test whether it works, I then sent 2 FIMK from a faucet to my address and it worked, it showed up in my mofo wallet (although I remember I did something called - if I'm not mistaken - "publishing my public key" from the mofo wallet before the 2 FIMK faucet transfer).

So bottom line: is there something I might have done wrong and that can be corrected to have my balance reflect the ~30,000 FIMK I sent from DGEX? Or does the fault lie entirely on DGEX and I have to keep pressing them for an answer and to speed up the processing of my withdrawal?

Many thanks for your help!
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A question: I withdrew ~30,000 FIMK (the first FIMK I bought) from DGEX 1-2 days ago to my address FIM-XZXB-V4LF-ZU82-44RPX

The problem is the FIMK haven't yet shown up in my wallet. At the time of my withdrawal I was using the client I downloaded from your website. This was the first transfer I have sent to this address. Then I started using the wallet here: https://fimkrypto.github.io/mofo/launch.html The transfer does not show up in the mofo wallet either. To test whether it works, I then sent 2 FIMK from a faucet to my address and it worked, it showed up in my mofo wallet (although I remember I did something called - if I'm not mistaken - "publishing my public key" from the mofo wallet before the 2 FIMK faucet transfer).

So bottom line: is there something I might have done wrong and that can be corrected to have my balance reflect the ~30,000 FIMK I sent from DGEX? Or does the fault lie entirely on DGEX and I have to keep pressing them for an answer and to speed up the processing of my withdrawal?

Many thanks for your help!

Your account has a balance of 32,654.62392. You should see that in your wallet. If not, then you are perhaps your wallet is  on a fork.
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A question: I withdrew ~30,000 FIMK (the first FIMK I bought) from DGEX 1-2 days ago to my address FIM-XZXB-V4LF-ZU82-44RPX

The problem is the FIMK haven't yet shown up in my wallet. At the time of my withdrawal I was using the client I downloaded from your website. This was the first transfer I have sent to this address. Then I started using the wallet here: https://fimkrypto.github.io/mofo/launch.html The transfer does not show up in the mofo wallet either. To test whether it works, I then sent 2 FIMK from a faucet to my address and it worked, it showed up in my mofo wallet (although I remember I did something called - if I'm not mistaken - "publishing my public key" from the mofo wallet before the 2 FIMK faucet transfer).

So bottom line: is there something I might have done wrong and that can be corrected to have my balance reflect the ~30,000 FIMK I sent from DGEX? Or does the fault lie entirely on DGEX and I have to keep pressing them for an answer and to speed up the processing of my withdrawal?

Many thanks for your help!

Seems like the FIMK is there http://80.240.143.139/accounts/FIM-XZXB-V4LF-ZU82-44RPX

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November 05, 2014, 09:16:42 PM
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Can you tell more about the service you are working on?
It's a paid P2P Q&A site, based on crypto instead of FIAT. We are a few months away from open beta.

Thats great. And FIMK is supported too  Grin awesome!!

Too bad it's just a little bit too early or I could have assisted you in tuning mofowallet to your needs, basically help setup a plugin to assist in your NXT + FIMK administration needs I bet a site like that could use at least some backend/administrative software that could be used for (small repetitive) daily administrative tasks. 
Even if it's just to verify the work done by the automated parts that you undoubtedly have built. That would have been another perfect testbed for mofowallet plugins. But you mention a few months so who knows where we are with mofowallet then.

Keep us posted. The idea sounds promising.

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November 05, 2014, 09:27:05 PM
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A question: I withdrew ~30,000 FIMK (the first FIMK I bought) from DGEX 1-2 days ago to my address FIM-XZXB-V4LF-ZU82-44RPX

The problem is the FIMK haven't yet shown up in my wallet. At the time of my withdrawal I was using the client I downloaded from your website. This was the first transfer I have sent to this address. Then I started using the wallet here: https://fimkrypto.github.io/mofo/launch.html The transfer does not show up in the mofo wallet either. To test whether it works, I then sent 2 FIMK from a faucet to my address and it worked, it showed up in my mofo wallet (although I remember I did something called - if I'm not mistaken - "publishing my public key" from the mofo wallet before the 2 FIMK faucet transfer).

So bottom line: is there something I might have done wrong and that can be corrected to have my balance reflect the ~30,000 FIMK I sent from DGEX? Or does the fault lie entirely on DGEX and I have to keep pressing them for an answer and to speed up the processing of my withdrawal?

Many thanks for your help!

Seems like the FIMK is there http://80.240.143.139/accounts/FIM-XZXB-V4LF-ZU82-44RPX

Do you know of a reliable online wallet where I can see my real balance?
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A question: I withdrew ~30,000 FIMK (the first FIMK I bought) from DGEX 1-2 days ago to my address FIM-XZXB-V4LF-ZU82-44RPX

The problem is the FIMK haven't yet shown up in my wallet. At the time of my withdrawal I was using the client I downloaded from your website. This was the first transfer I have sent to this address. Then I started using the wallet here: https://fimkrypto.github.io/mofo/launch.html The transfer does not show up in the mofo wallet either. To test whether it works, I then sent 2 FIMK from a faucet to my address and it worked, it showed up in my mofo wallet (although I remember I did something called - if I'm not mistaken - "publishing my public key" from the mofo wallet before the 2 FIMK faucet transfer).

So bottom line: is there something I might have done wrong and that can be corrected to have my balance reflect the ~30,000 FIMK I sent from DGEX? Or does the fault lie entirely on DGEX and I have to keep pressing them for an answer and to speed up the processing of my withdrawal?

Many thanks for your help!

Seems like the FIMK is there http://80.240.143.139/accounts/FIM-XZXB-V4LF-ZU82-44RPX

Do you know of a reliable online wallet where I can see my real balance?

Mofowallet seems to show your balance https://fimkrypto.github.io/mofo/launch.html#/accounts/FIM-XZXB-V4LF-ZU82-44RPX/show
(notice the show part at the end - hidden feature  Cool) give it some time to load, we are working on the performance issues.


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November 05, 2014, 10:45:54 PM
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We are working on a solution for the performance problems of mofowallet. On some systems it works very well on others it's just slow.
There is a technical explanation of the problem and the solution here http://forum.fimk.fi/index.php?topic=428.msg2382#msg2382

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In the coming days we'll be fixing mofowallet, problem is that it seems to pile up network requests when on a slow(er) connection.
The solution is to optimize bandwidth usage and implement prioritization of certain network requests. The expectation is that it will run much faster even on a slow connection.


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It should just start it on localhost and do away with all the overcomplicated UI.
Which part of the UI is the most overcomplicated in your opinion?

Thanks for actually being interesting in user feedback.  This is so much better than other coins where the developers don't ask and don't care.  You guys are doing a really good job and I hope you receive my comments below constructively.  They are just my opinion.  I'm no expert.

1] I think the MofoWallet will be really good, but I am not keen on the name as it sounds a bit like a joke.

2] I can't see the benefit of the all the front page with all the "Power by..." stuff.  When I bring up a wallet, I want it to go right into my only wallet or give me a list of wallets to choose from.

3] Can't see the point of having whether the server is running as an option.  The less low-level options (in the user's face) the better.  Run the server by default.

4] The application flow of "Create account" -> "Existing FIM Account" does not make sense.  Perhaps you mean "Create wallet" -> "Existing FIM account"?

5] Make opening a wallet give two options: "Brain wallet" or "Wallet file"  Many users actually prefer brain wallet for its simplicity and you shouldn't try to force them into wallet files if they don't like that sort of thing... especially in the NXT community

6] No sure about the option of saving secret phrases to wallet... seems kind of risky.

7] When I click on "Forging" I get a dialog asking me to enter the server URL.  In my opinion this is overcomplicated.  Why not just automatically have the server running (it is energy efficient after all!) and have a toggle button for forging (on or off).  When you switch it on, it asks for your password.

8] I don't care about themes.  I think a uniform branded look is probably best.  Professional icons, etc.  Make it unique.

Other than that, it looks like it will be a very cool wallet.

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i'll also add my 2 cents regarding the name "mofo"

at least here in the US, that name does sound slightly strange, and not very professional.

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November 06, 2014, 09:28:55 AM
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It's always worth consulting an urban slang dictionary before choosing a name, which in this case should certainly command some street credibility but probably not the kind we want - http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mofo
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November 06, 2014, 09:38:56 AM
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Thanks for actually being interesting in user feedback.  This is so much better than other coins where the developers don't ask and don't care.  You guys are doing a really good job and I hope you receive my comments below constructively.  They are just my opinion.  I'm no expert.

1] I think the MofoWallet will be really good, but I am not keen on the name as it sounds a bit like a joke.
2] I can't see the benefit of the all the front page with all the "Power by..." stuff.  When I bring up a wallet, I want it to go right into my only wallet or give me a list of wallets to choose from.
3] Can't see the point of having whether the server is running as an option.  The less low-level options (in the user's face) the better.  Run the server by default.
4] The application flow of "Create account" -> "Existing FIM Account" does not make sense.  Perhaps you mean "Create wallet" -> "Existing FIM account"?
5] Make opening a wallet give two options: "Brain wallet" or "Wallet file"  Many users actually prefer brain wallet for its simplicity and you shouldn't try to force them into wallet files if they don't like that sort of thing... especially in the NXT community
6] No sure about the option of saving secret phrases to wallet... seems kind of risky.
7] When I click on "Forging" I get a dialog asking me to enter the server URL.  In my opinion this is overcomplicated.  Why not just automatically have the server running (it is energy efficient after all!) and have a toggle button for forging (on or off).  When you switch it on, it asks for your password.
8] I don't care about themes.  I think a uniform branded look is probably best.  Professional icons, etc.  Make it unique.

1] Can't comment on that
2] Agreed it makes no sense in the current situation it is a leftover from an earlier plan on how to present mofowallet. I commented it out and it looks much better.
3] Agreed, also a left over from the dev phase. It was mostly for my convenience during development.
Best IMO would be a dialog at startup that asks to start the servers, it explains it will run faster in the end but it will need time to download the chain first.
An option to "Always start servers on startup" should be on the dialog and checked by default.
The server start process could be visualized in the same dialog shown at startup to show start-up progress.
4] Good point.
5] In mofowallet a wallet is considered to be an encrypted file containing a collection of ACCOUNT_ID+SECRET_PHRASE+DISPLAY_NAME.
It seems what you are suggesting is already the case. All dialogs that ask for your secretphrase have the option to enter it by hand or click open wallet and have the secretphrase read from a wallet file, it's a users choice. Personally I use many accounts and I find it extremely difficult to remember those secretphrases so the wallet file really helps me do things quick.
6] The wallet is encrypted plus you store it in a unique place. Users can designate an empty usb thumbdrive for storing their wallet files, only inserting it into your computer when you need it. If that is perceived as dangerous since the file can be stolen when someone (remotely) accesses your computer then consider that an infected pc is already no longer your pc, it simply belongs to the hacker. Trying to protect against that is pointless, you can buy all the locks in the world but if you leave the backdoor open it quickly becomes pointless.
7] Agreed on the compilcated UI it will be reworked. Good point about the energy efficiency makes rethink point 3.
8] I do like themes  Wink But the default one should confirm to the standards you mentioned.

Thank you for the constructive criticism.

It's always worth consulting an urban slang dictionary before choosing a name, which in this case should certainly command some street credibility but probably not the kind you want - http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mofo

I can assure you my parents did not use crack cocaine. I'll have to check with the other team members but I would be highly surprised if that was the case.

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November 06, 2014, 10:36:17 AM
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i'll also add my 2 cents regarding the name "mofo"
at least here in the US, that name does sound slightly strange, and not very professional.

It's always worth consulting an urban slang dictionary before choosing a name, which in this case should certainly command some street credibility but probably not the kind we want - http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mofo

We are well aware of the connotation and it took quite a while of brainstorming to end up with the current name, MOFO Wallet. It's a strategic decision, designated to be strange, jump on your face, maybe cause a bit of facepalming and make a difference. The best way to make a difference in marketing is to make a difference.

As a reference towards this mindset, does Dogecoin look or sound professional? Did the image of it help or hinder the success of that coin which is otherwise substandard in contemporary technical terms?

As for mofo's parents using crack cocaine, it's my policy to not admit to such unless threatened by prison sentence. Dirk dodged the rhetoric question by talking about his own parents, which should be just fine FAPP Grin

         
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