[ANN] FIMK: 2.5G POS, extra block rewards, messaging, asset colors, p2p shopping

[PilotofBTC]

OK, that's what I expected. Yes, I started the server.

I think I see what is happening... when I sign in with my pass phrase I get a different account than my account.

However, if I open the wallet from the previous version and do show password, it shows the correct passphrase, the same one I am trying to enter in the new wallet when I sign in.

EDIT: Ok, it looks like my passphrase ends with a space. However, I'm guessing the new wallet is trimming that space, cause when I remove the space in the web UI it shows me the same account number that the mofo wallet UI shows.

I'm guessing that's why it's not forging.

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[verymuchso]

OK, that's what I expected. Yes, I started the server.

I think I see what is happening... when I sign in with my pass phrase I get a different account than my account.

However, if I open the wallet from the previous version and do show password, it shows the correct passphrase, the same one I am trying to enter in the new wallet when I sign in.

sure it's the same? not perhaps a missing space at the start or end?
what happens if you only login in for the session..

Sign in / Enter pass phrase / FIMK / [enter the passphrase] / Save to wallet? answer NO / Continue..

[PilotofBTC]

OK, that's what I expected. Yes, I started the server.

I think I see what is happening... when I sign in with my pass phrase I get a different account than my account.

However, if I open the wallet from the previous version and do show password, it shows the correct passphrase, the same one I am trying to enter in the new wallet when I sign in.

sure it's the same? not perhaps a missing space at the start or end?
what happens if you only login in for the session..

Sign in / Enter pass phrase / FIMK / [enter the passphrase] / Save to wallet? answer NO / Continue..

Ok, it looks like my passphrase ends with a space. However, I'm guessing the new wallet is trimming that space, because when I remove the space in the web UI it shows me the same account number that the mofo wallet UI shows.

Why would the wallet from settings display the correct account and phrase that I logged in with but the home show the wrong account?

I am signing in by entering my passphrase and clicking no to the same prompt.


EDIT: So "dashboard" shows the right account, but home shows the wrong account.

[verymuchso]

OK, that's what I expected. Yes, I started the server.

I think I see what is happening... when I sign in with my pass phrase I get a different account than my account.

However, if I open the wallet from the previous version and do show password, it shows the correct passphrase, the same one I am trying to enter in the new wallet when I sign in.

sure it's the same? not perhaps a missing space at the start or end?
what happens if you only login in for the session..

Sign in / Enter pass phrase / FIMK / [enter the passphrase] / Save to wallet? answer NO / Continue..

Ok, it looks like my passphrase ends with a space. However, I'm guessing the new wallet is trimming that space, because when I remove the space in the web UI it shows me the same account number that the mofo wallet UI shows.

Why would the wallet from settings display the correct account and phrase that I logged in with but the home show the wrong account?

I am signing in by entering my passphrase and clicking no to the same prompt.


EDIT: So "dashboard" shows the right account, but home shows the wrong account.

You are correct.
The space at the end is eaten somehow.
I'll fix it right now.

Thank you for pointing this out.

[verymuchso]

Problem turned out to be an angular issue where text input was automatically trimmed (spaces removed at end and start) before it updates the model.
Fix is here: https://github.com/fimkrypto/mofowallet/commit/6458f50fa79857b11be2de55013d0ca1d8c1de0d
Will upload new build when i have a chance.

Thanks PilotBTC! (unfortunately i don't really see a work around atm)

[PilotofBTC]

Problem turned out to be an angular issue where text input was automatically trimmed (spaces removed at end and start) before it updates the model.
Fix is here: https://github.com/fimkrypto/mofowallet/commit/6458f50fa79857b11be2de55013d0ca1d8c1de0d
Will upload new build when i have a chance.

Thanks PilotBTC! (unfortunately i don't really see a work around atm)

No problem. Glad to see it's fixed. I'll install the new build once you get it released.

[NorrisK]

For those of you who still have some FIMK or other currencies on DGEX, you can log in and withdraw again! It will close September 1, so be fast

[Eliphaz Fimk]

FIMK's contribution has been published on ESMA's recent questionnaire on Investment using virtual currency or distributed ledger technology

http://www.esma.europa.eu/consultation/Investment-using-virtual-currency-or-distributed-ledger-technology#responses

All publishers:

Deutsche Bank
Banking Intesa Sanpaolo S.p.A.
Investment Services Tradernet Limited
NxtLegal.org
CFA Institute
DBT Labs
ECSDA (European Central Securities Depositories Association)
Euroclear SA/NV
Krypto Fin ry (issuer of FIMK cryptocurrency)
 
Lykke Corp
Modular FX Services Limited
SWIFT
ABN AMRO Clearing Bank N.V.
Digital Asset Transfer Authority
LedgerX LLC
CME Group
PAYMIUM

[PilotofBTC]

Problem turned out to be an angular issue where text input was automatically trimmed (spaces removed at end and start) before it updates the model.
Fix is here: https://github.com/fimkrypto/mofowallet/commit/6458f50fa79857b11be2de55013d0ca1d8c1de0d
Will upload new build when i have a chance.

Thanks PilotBTC! (unfortunately i don't really see a work around atm)

So any ETA on that fixed build?

[josegines]

good job with LOMPSA

One question, the transference NXT works well but in Asset I have a problem, it does not reflect my balance and I cannot buy or sell.

in the paragraph of TRADE the balance puts 0, nevertheless, in Account-->more-->asset  the correct balance appears

[PilotofBTC]

Problem turned out to be an angular issue where text input was automatically trimmed (spaces removed at end and start) before it updates the model.
Fix is here: https://github.com/fimkrypto/mofowallet/commit/6458f50fa79857b11be2de55013d0ca1d8c1de0d
Will upload new build when i have a chance.

Thanks PilotBTC! (unfortunately i don't really see a work around atm)

Is this fix going to be released? If not soon let me know... I'll either go back one version or just change my passcode to not have the space and transfer all my coins and stuff.

[verymuchso]

I'm sorry. Totally forgot to update here.
There has been an intermediate release for a few days now which is here https://github.com/fimkrypto/mofowallet/releases/tag/v0.4.6 i'm sorry it's not final but the new (now really) free chat feature (called the gossip protocol btw..) is taking up a lot of time.

[verymuchso]

good job with LOMPSA
One question, the transference NXT works well but in Asset I have a problem, it does not reflect my balance and I cannot buy or sell.
in the paragraph of TRADE the balance puts 0, nevertheless, in Account-->more-->asset  the correct balance appears

sorry for late reply. that part is not automatically updated i know, it's on the list 
just navigate to another page and click back button and it will update.

[PilotofBTC]

I'm sorry. Totally forgot to update here.
There has been an intermediate release for a few days now which is here https://github.com/fimkrypto/mofowallet/releases/tag/v0.4.6 i'm sorry it's not final but the new (now really) free chat feature (called the gossip protocol btw..) is taking up a lot of time.

Yes, working, thanks.

[verymuchso]

Experimenting with new p2p distributed real-time gossip protocol.

http://fimkchat.com/2015/08/experimental-lompsa-0-4-7/
http://forum.fimk.fi/index.php?topic=581.msg4413#msg4413

[verymuchso]

http://fimkchat.com/2015/08/experimental-lompsa-0-4-7/

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Finally I got around to implementing a protocol I've had in mind for a long time.
The idea is extremely simple but at the same time extremely powerful.

With the gossip protocol everyone running a FIMK server can send a message to one or more of his connected peers and be pretty sure that same message is distributed as fast as possible among all other peers.

Nothing is stored however!
All that remains on any of the servers is the ID of the message. And only for a limited amount of time just to make sure we don't keep sending the same message around.

To actually do something with gossip messages the receiving party should be actively listening for them.

A party does not need to listen for all gossip messages!

What you do is create a special key which is built up from a sender, recipient and or topic (or any combination of that) and you'll subscribe to that key through two-way websocket client/server connections.

Now when anyone sends a gossip that matches that key, as soon as that message reaches the (p2p) server your client is connected to you will be notified.

Having a free distributed messaging protocol could potentially come at a cost.
That's why all transactions and blocks on the network always go first.

It is a very early stage and these extra measures have not been enabled yet but this protocol comes with excellent spam prevention methods.
Since every gossip message has a sender and every peer in the network has knowledge of that sender's balance we could easily require a sender to have a minimum balance, we could also limit the number of messages per minute/hour/day etc per account ..

Every gossip message is signed with a secret phrase which proves who send the message (same mechanism as signing blocks).
Every gossip message is timestamped and the timestamp is included in the signature, messages older than - or from more than 15 seconds in the future are discarded.

The live chat feature is just one of it's uses and is what is available in lompsa (used to be mofowallet) 0.4.7 now.

Lompsa 0.4.7 shows how with this relatively simple protocol we can create a sophisticated client side (javascript) distributed real-time communications platform.

# client side protocol implementation
https://github.com/fimkrypto/mofowallet/blob/master/app/scripts/services/gossip-service.js

# messages are stored and served from indexeddb
https://github.com/fimkrypto/mofowallet/blob/master/app/scripts/providers/gossip-chat-messages-provider.js
https://github.com/fimkrypto/mofowallet/blob/master/app/scripts/providers/gossip-chat-list-provider.js

Lots of other uses exist. Free fast real-time communications between FIMK users is just one of them.
Eventually the protocol could be used for anything.. communications, games, live multi-sig, live trading etc..

[verymuchso]

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Preview release.

Embeds FIMK 0.5.1 and NXT-PLUS based on NXT 1.5.13.

Did a major refactoring of the initial gossip client code. Reason being that
we are in need of adding support for more message types.

Improvements to the chat section, no longer does the online/offline status
of contacts 'flicker' when coming and going online.

Added support to see if a contact successfully received a message.
Added support to see that a contact "starts typing".

Did away with the Send button in the chat section. Send button still available
but only on mobile, on large screens you must hit the ENTER key to send the
message. Use SHIFT+ENTER to add a new line.



                             ~~~ DOWNLOAD ~~~

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[verymuchso]

Cross posting this from the other forum:
http://forum.fimk.fi/index.php?topic=620.msg4425#msg4425

The gossip protocol comes without a built-in storage mechanism.
Gossip messages send to the network are distributed among all peers on the network and that's that, messages are not stored by any of the peers.

The gossip messages are in many ways similar to NXT/FIMK transactions.

- they can use strong encryption
- they always have a sender
- they can have a recipient
- they always have a timestamp
- they always have a topic (which is a free-form number similar to how there are transaction types)
- they all contain a powerful cryptographic signature which can be used to confirm the sender is who he/she says he/she is (this will almost certainly be used at a later stage to manage network access and/or priority for gossip messages - basically spam control)

So how does that work if I cant query the network for messages?

Well thats where the efficiency comes from, it's an event based system.
For anyone familiar with NodeJS or Javascript in general knows that event based systems can be made to scale since they run so efficiently.

For this to work each server (peer) in the network (at least the ones that want to serve clients) needs to be able to have clients register with them as listeners (done over websockets) and when that peer detects a valid gossip message it should forward that to it's registered client listeners.
But not to every listening client of course, only to those interested in that specific topic, sender or recipient (or combination of those).

If done from Perl it might require some reverse engineering the current javascript code but if you do that what you'd end up with is a real-time always on connection from your Perl script basically straight into the gossip network. You can basically code the Perl script to be a lot like a bot that auto-responds to messages it receives from the network.

Other people can have a real-time connection with your script without knowing it's IP address, that is since all messages are directed to any one of the peers in the gossip network. Because of this one-to-one-to-all setup between clients and servers and servers among each other the scale of the number of direct connections becomes enormous. And because each gossip message comes with a sender ID which is your FIMK address (until i add this to NXT-PLUS) each relay node (peer) in the network has access to the same strong identity and balance info as all the others, meaning it can stop spam data at the gate (keeping things really fast).

What can be built on such a free decentralized real-time message bus (since thats what it is basically) I dont know. But I know it's a lot, real-time direct chat is just one it's uses.

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So how to connect from Perl? Don't know about that, but i can point in the right direction as to where the important javascript stuff is.
If you look at the gossip-service.js you'll find the full client-side implementation of it all:

https://github.com/fimkrypto/mofowallet/blob/e5a7db321ff990bb44efe65d3c0a9a620c313f36/app/scripts/services/gossip-service.js

Not all of that is required of course to get a working prototype. I'm planning still on making an easy to use plugin system to tap into Lompsa, it will contain the most easiest gossip support possible I guess.

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So in short - what to remember is - Gossip is a free decentralized messaging protocol - making it possible for people around the world to have real-time, free, encrypted communications with each other.

[NorrisK]

Everybody remember to get your funds out of dgex. This is probably the last month you get a change to move them!

[verymuchso]

Hi Fimkers.

Just a quick heads-up for what to expect in the coming weeks.

We are currently upgrading the FIMK server (java) to the NXT 1.5 code base, which requires a hard fork.
This means we'll automatically be getting support for some excellent new NXT inventions.

• Prunable Messages
• Voting System
• Monetary System
• Websocket P2P Connections (excellent when combined with the FIMK Gossip protocol)

To keep the number of hard forks at a minimum we'll also be rolling out FIMK only features.

• Private Assets for Financial Institutions
• New Account Identifiers (accounts will come in two flavors name@fimk.fi or name@whatever-other-domain-you-have-in-mind.com) (sounds simple but believe me when I say there is a lot more to it)
• New Unique Secret Feature .... Offline Vouchers
• Offchain Free Gossip Protocol Improvements
• Virtual AE Improvements
• Namespaced Alias Improvements

The FIMK Gossip protocol is expected to get a huge boost in speed when combined with the NXT websocket based p2p server.

Cheers,
Dirk

Side note: While going over all the NXT code improvements for NXT 1.5.* I must say they did an excellent job.
Code quality just keeps getting better! You can thank them if you like.