[ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA

[darkproton]

I'm gunna go on a long sloppy rant and feed you trolls.

Community is a huge part of a coin. If it looks as though holders and everyone around it and in it are mature and knowledgeable then I'm confident. If it looks like a bunch of angsty teenage kids who got lucky or are freaking out over $20 then I hesitate. Arguing about features that they will never understand. Plus, and this is the most important one. I come here to read up on updates and news. More than just twitter feeds I want to read about user experiences with betas. I don't have time to read all the shit in the IRC room. I come here for the few of you who wade through all that muck and post the cream of the crop in here so I can cross verify it. (By the way to those of you who do that I am very thankful.)

As far as turning people off, I'm not just talking about whales, but what about people who have a few grand in bitcoin and are looking for a coin to invest in, like I was. You can't say "Well fuck that guy he can't move the market LOL U MAD BRO? [dealwithit.jpg]." Of course he can't move the market, but what about 100 of them? How many people who actually do look at the community as some kind of reflection on the coin (however misguided that might be) have you guys turned away with your childish bullshit? You guys are self fudding yourself by fighting those you deem fudders. Not everyone who holds and "invests" in crypto knows what they're doing.

"good riddance, we don't need noob buying our coin anyway." argument. If everyone who bought cloakcoin to make profit pulled out we would be in single satoshi by now. I argue that we do in fact need those people if our goal is to make money. Please spare me your fake hippy bullshit about making the world a better place.

I understand where you are coming from. I believe that a community can help a coin, however, that is limited to the coin and it's offering. As an example I offer Doge. That was one of the strongest communities in crypto. A serious force du jour that garnered press, invited new people in, etc. The main drawback to Doge is not the community for I argue the community was a plus, but Doge itself. Now, Cloak aims higher and with it brings a certain technicality that threatens other communities. In the early days of darkcoin, that thread was a litter box of trolls and fud, similar to cloak's thread. I see no harm in the community responding to fud with gifs. I believe the community will eventually learn the best way for this community to deal with the 'fud' and trolls. Everyone here is still learning and just coming together as a community. I know you want maturity, but I would rather have developers developing. This is not to insinuate you don't want that either. I think it's a huge jump to make that extrapolating that a thread that doesn't even comprise the whole community makes the community immature and prone to selling. My view, and you may disagree which is cool, is to let the community form freely without restriction. You or others who feel it is immature may post to bring the thread back to more engaging topics. I do not like the trolls, but I do find humor in the gifs, the memes, what have you. These are not the same people working on cloak. We are different but my view is to let the community be and worry about development. I know not everyone shares my thoughts, and I am concerned by the small investors as well. I think if you, and I mean a person of the community and not you directly, want a more mature thread then you must be willing to put forth the effort to make it so. Post questions. Post discussion topics. Post how you think we should handle trolls. This community, nor any other, is not a set thing, but an ever changing mass of ideas and personality which can be shaped by those who participate.

[Coolstoryteller]

I'm gunna go on a long sloppy rant and feed you trolls.

Community is a huge part of a coin. If it looks as though holders and everyone around it and in it are mature and knowledgeable then I'm confident. If it looks like a bunch of angsty teenage kids who got lucky or are freaking out over $20 then I hesitate. Arguing about features that they will never understand. Plus, and this is the most important one. I come here to read up on updates and news. More than just twitter feeds I want to read about user experiences with betas. I don't have time to read all the shit in the IRC room. I come here for the few of you who wade through all that muck and post the cream of the crop in here so I can cross verify it. (By the way to those of you who do that I am very thankful.)

As far as turning people off, I'm not just talking about whales, but what about people who have a few grand in bitcoin and are looking for a coin to invest in, like I was. You can't say "Well fuck that guy he can't move the market LOL U MAD BRO? [dealwithit.jpg]." Of course he can't move the market, but what about 100 of them? How many people who actually do look at the community as some kind of reflection on the coin (however misguided that might be) have you guys turned away with your childish bullshit? You guys are self fudding yourself by fighting those you deem fudders. Not everyone who holds and "invests" in crypto knows what they're doing.

"good riddance, we don't need noob buying our coin anyway." argument. If everyone who bought cloakcoin to make profit pulled out we would be in single satoshi by now. I argue that we do in fact need those people if our goal is to make money. Please spare me your fake hippy bullshit about making the world a better place.

I understand where you are coming from. I believe that a community can help a coin, however, that is limited to the coin and it's offering. As an example I offer Doge. That was one of the strongest communities in crypto. A serious force du jour that garnered press, invited new people in, etc. The main drawback to Doge is not the community for I argue the community was a plus, but Doge itself. Now, Cloak aims higher and with it brings a certain technicality that threatens other communities. In the early days of darkcoin, that thread was a litter box of trolls and fud, similar to cloak's thread. I see no harm in the community responding to fud with gifs. I believe the community will eventually learn the best way for this community to deal with the 'fud' and trolls. Everyone here is still learning and just coming together as a community. I know you want maturity, but I would rather have developers developing. This is not to insinuate you don't want that either. I think it's a huge jump to make that extrapolating that a thread that doesn't even comprise the whole community makes the community immature and prone to selling. My view, and you may disagree which is cool, is to let the community form freely without restriction. You or others who feel it is immature may post to bring the thread back to more engaging topics. I do not like the trolls, but I do find humor in the gifs, the memes, what have you. These are not the same people working on cloak. We are different but my view is to let the community be and worry about development. I know not everyone shares my thoughts, and I am concerned by the small investors as well. I think if you, and I mean a person of the community and not you directly, want a more mature thread then you must be willing to put forth the effort to make it so. Post questions. Post discussion topics. Post how you think we should handle trolls. This community, nor any other, is not a set thing, but an ever changing mass of ideas and personality which can be shaped by those who participate.

Brilliant.

[snowman8]

I personally invest in companies, commodities, and the like because of what it offers and not because of the "community". I am only speaking for myself. In other words, I try to do my homework and due diligence and not just log in to see what someone tweeted or said about another coin. I do find it amusing though. But I wouldn't say it persuades me one way or the other. If it did, I probably shouldn't be investing in crypto, or investing period!

[snowman8]

This moon pic is for snowman in IRC....

aaahhh there she is. Thank you!!! 

[djslick]

step 1) create the most technologically advanced, most ambitious coin ever

step 2) actually deliver on your promises continually

step 3) prices starts going up

step 4) other communities are threatened and the trolls start FUDding

step 5) Fudders control the forum to make sure that the story is always about them, is about fear, uncertainty and doubt.

step 6) investors laugh at how pathetic these attempts at bullying are, and the supreme irony of all the fud attempts (Exibit A: These devs who are about to release the world's first decentralised working anon cryptocurrency are themselves anonymous! They must be scammers! They people fighting for the right to privacy and developing a system in which we can all act privately, are themselves private! They are obviously crooks! I will repeat this over and over and over and over until it's people think that it's a legitimate complaint. I will dominate the conversation by being the loudest and sling the most mud, i will do it continually until it's actually believed as fact.) I mean, how do you even respond to stuff like this without some hilarious gif that tries to sum up how desperate they are getting?

step 7) now the story is about how "immature" we who have always supported the coin are, by dealing with our own fudders in a comedic way. Really, let us deal with our own FUDders however the hell we want. It's really unbelievable. We can't win. The FUD wins everytime. This coin really has the possibility to shape the world in which we live, and all this thread is is FUD, and when we defend against the fud we're then belittled for doing that. It's FOX News tactics at it's finest.

It's not the coins fault! they're just continually developing and doing amazing work. Yet Everytime the conversation veers off course and then the next 4 pages are all about some bullshit, the trolls are all smiling, and the thousands of pro-cloak backers are trying to figure out what just happened. it's click-bait, it's troll-bait, it's all intended to keep the conversation away from the REAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS going on right now. (COUGH POSA COMING OUT THIS WEEK) and by the way, any REAL investor knows A) to do their own homework, and B) that when something successful has so many trolls trying to bring it down, that it's probably doing something pretty special. We weren't born yesterday, give me a fucking break.

[nemo]

All I see is children fighting. But do what you want. "he started it. He kicked me first! I'm gunna kick him back. Waaawaaaawaaa." real effective.

[djslick]

All I see is children fighting. But do what you want. "he started it. He kicked me first! I'm gunna kick him back. Waaawaaaawaaa." real effective.

you're the only one i see who keeps framing everything like this, infact it seems to be a not-so-veiled attempt at again controlling the conversation.

[djslick]

damned if i'm going to be the only one not spamming my opinion over and over and over, so here's a recap:

step 1) create the most technologically advanced, most ambitious coin ever

step 2) actually deliver on your promises continually

step 3) prices starts going up

step 4) other communities are threatened and the trolls start FUDding

step 5) Fudders control the forum to make sure that the story is always about them, is about fear, uncertainty and doubt.

step 6) investors laugh at how pathetic these attempts at bullying are, and the supreme irony of all the fud attempts (Exibit A: These devs who are about to release the world's first decentralised working anon cryptocurrency are themselves anonymous! They must be scammers! They people fighting for the right to privacy and developing a system in which we can all act privately, are themselves private! They are obviously crooks! I will repeat this over and over and over and over until people think that it's a legitimate complaint. I will dominate the conversation by being the loudest and sling the most mud, i will do it continually until it's actually believed as fact.) I mean, how do you even respond to stuff like this without some hilarious gif that tries to sum up how desperate they are getting?

step 7) now the story is about how "immature" we who have always supported the coin are, by dealing with our own fudders in a comedic way. Really, let us deal with our own FUDders however the hell we want. It's really unbelievable. We can't win. The FUD wins everytime. This coin really has the possibility to shape the world in which we live, and all this thread is is FUD, and when we defend against the fud we're then belittled for doing that. It's FOX News tactics at it's finest.

It's not the coins fault! they're just continually developing and doing amazing work. Yet Everytime the conversation veers off course and then the next 4 pages are all about some bullshit, the trolls are all smiling, and the thousands of pro-cloak backers are trying to figure out what just happened. it's click-bait, it's troll-bait, it's all intended to keep the conversation away from the REAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS going on right now. (COUGH POSA COMING OUT THIS WEEK) and by the way, any REAL investor knows A) to do their own homework, and B) that when something successful has so many trolls trying to bring it down, that it's probably doing something pretty special. We weren't born yesterday, give me a fucking break.

[djslick]

POSA THIS WEEK - ALTY

[zing96]

I just typed in this URL at random - does anyone know who made it?  It has a lot of nice information and answers many questions that are posted in this thread.

http://www.cloakcoin.info

[eric.thompson]

POSA THIS WEEK - ALTY

HURRAY! Let the anonymous-festival begin as soon as it happens!

[burner2014]

Good Informations: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=714803.new#new

lol waking up and seeing only fud and discussion about fud. Happy to help new investors with my recap!

[collapse157]

Only a few buys till this thing is soaring again

[dotnetmin]

I was bored and decided to some math.

The DRK ANN thread took 77 days to reach 644 pages.
DRK/BTC at 644 pages=.0014

The CLOAK ANN thread took 59 days to reach 644 pages.
CLOAK/BTC at 644 pages = .00207

What does tell us this math. The first 1000 DRK pages were nearly only about tech. discussions.
This 644 Pages are full of price speculation. You would be much higher if you wouldn´t delete posts in
the moderation mode

[smokim87]

I was bored and decided to some math.

The DRK ANN thread took 77 days to reach 644 pages.
DRK/BTC at 644 pages=.0014

The CLOAK ANN thread took 59 days to reach 644 pages.
CLOAK/BTC at 644 pages = .00207

What does tell us this math. The first 1000 DRK pages were nearly only about tech. discussions.
This 644 Pages are full of price speculation. You would be much higher if you wouldn´t delete posts in
the moderation mode

Then go back to dark's thread.

[djslick]

POSA THIS WEEK - ALTY

i'm just going to repost this anytime a FUDDER tries derailing the conversation

[vertoe]

I'm addind CLOAK to my new app. Please help me, I need one short sentence that describes what CLOAK is and why it is special.
Cheers, v

[youngmike]

"Custom PoSA - ETA: unknown"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=727644.0

what 

[eric.thompson]

"Custom PoSA - ETA: unknown"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=727644.0

what 

I call BS. Obvious scam is obvious.

[smokim87]

Its a joke lol not real!! 

people are mining the coin, spending money on a joke?