Big scam in NXT hundreds of BTC stolen with a one post

[From Above]

I know firsthand that NXT was created as a 100% scam coin, but still can be used if the community want to push it forward. They made a lot of money out of the suckers.

U obviously have no idea what u talking about. nice post for a good laugh though

I know what I am talking about

The bigger the effort the more you can make, I am not saying it was a effortless scam, these guys deserved it!  
They are the wolf of wallstreet in the alt world.

NEM will be Wolf of Wallstreet 2 on a lot larger scaler then NXT. 25% of BTCTALK will be hyping it when it's released as part of PMs to high profile community members who have been convinced to invest and join the ranks. NEM will be the ultimate scam... once again well deserved.

define "scam", KenChanYu. so u say a distribution of hundred percent proof of stake coin is to be regarded as scam a priori? that is a very weak argument needless to say definition of scam.

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[KenChanYu]

I know firsthand that NXT was created as a 100% scam coin, but still can be used if the community want to push it forward. They made a lot of money out of the suckers.

U obviously have no idea what u talking about. nice post for a good laugh though

I know what I am talking about

The bigger the effort the more you can make, I am not saying it was a effortless scam, these guys deserved it!  
They are the wolf of wallstreet in the alt world.

NEM will be Wolf of Wallstreet 2 on a lot larger scaler then NXT. 25% of BTCTALK will be hyping it when it's released as part of PMs to high profile community members who have been convinced to invest and join the ranks. NEM will be the ultimate scam... once again well deserved.

define "scam", KenChanYu. so u say a distribution of hundred percent proof of stake coin is to be regarded as scam a priori? that is a very weak argument needless to say definition of scam.

You going to be very dissapointed if you end up bagholding this one.

[From Above]

I know firsthand that NXT was created as a 100% scam coin, but still can be used if the community want to push it forward. They made a lot of money out of the suckers.

U obviously have no idea what u talking about. nice post for a good laugh though

I know what I am talking about

The bigger the effort the more you can make, I am not saying it was a effortless scam, these guys deserved it!  
They are the wolf of wallstreet in the alt world.

NEM will be Wolf of Wallstreet 2 on a lot larger scaler then NXT. 25% of BTCTALK will be hyping it when it's released as part of PMs to high profile community members who have been convinced to invest and join the ranks. NEM will be the ultimate scam... once again well deserved.

define "scam", KenChanYu. so u say a distribution of hundred percent proof of stake coin is to be regarded as scam a priori? that is a very weak argument needless to say definition of scam.

You going to be very dissapointed if you end up bagholding this one.

U did not reply to my request of elaborating ur premise the slightest bit, why is that?

I repeat in case u overlook.  define "scam", KenChanYu. so u say a distribution of hundred percent proof of stake coin is to be regarded as scam a priori? that is a very weak argument, not to mention "definition" of scam.

[Tai Zen]

I know firsthand that NXT was created as a 100% scam coin, but still can be used if the community want to push it forward. They made a lot of money out of the suckers.

U obviously have no idea what u talking about. nice post for a good laugh though

I know what I am talking about

The bigger the effort the more you can make, I am not saying it was a effortless scam, these guys deserved it!  
They are the wolf of wallstreet in the alt world.

NEM will be Wolf of Wallstreet 2 on a lot larger scaler then NXT. 25% of BTCTALK will be hyping it when it's released as part of PMs to high profile community members who have been convinced to invest and join the ranks. NEM will be the ultimate scam... once again well deserved.

You're hilarious!

That was a good laugh! hahaha

Tai Zen

[TwinWinNerD]

Following the retards logic:

BTC IS A FAIL!!!! LOOK 202 BTC WERE STOLEN. NXT IS AWESOME, NOT A SINGLE NXT STOLEN IN THAT SCAM!

fail....

Also: This was a successful scammer, not a failed currency.

[darkota]

NXT was always  a scam. Anyone who actually bought NXT, I have two words for you: SELL NOW!!

[TwinWinNerD]

NXT was always  a scam. Anyone who actually bought NXT, I have two words for you: SELL NOW!!

I got 3 words for you:
FUCK OFF TROLL


Srsly, read some of this guys posting history!

[darkota]

NXT was always  a scam. Anyone who actually bought NXT, I have two words for you: SELL NOW!!

I just sold my remaining NXT before the price reaches 1 satoshi. This coin is dying fast, SELL NOW!!

[TwinWinNerD]

NXT was always  a scam. Anyone who actually bought NXT, I have two words for you: BUY NOW!!

I just sold my remaining NXT before the price reaches 1 satoshi. This coin is dying fast, BUY NOW!!

FYP

[darkota]

NXT was always  a scam. Anyone who actually bought NXT, I have two words for you: SELL NOW!!

I just sold my remaining NXT before the price reaches 1 satoshi. This coin is dying fast, SELL NOW!!

Just got my friends to sell all their NXT, they got out early, you can too. SELL NOW!!!

[TwinWinNerD]

NXT was always  a scam. Anyone who actually bought NXT, I have two words for you: BUY NOW!!

I just sold my remaining NXT before the price reaches 1 satoshi. This coin is dying fast, BUY NOW!!

Just got my friends to sell all their NXT, they got out early, you can too. BUY NOW!!!

[darkota]

NXT was always  a scam. Anyone who actually bought NXT, I have two words for you: SELL NOW!!

I just sold my remaining NXT before the price reaches 1 satoshi. This coin is dying fast, SELL NOW!!

Just got my friends to sell all their NXT, they got out early, you can too. SELL NOW!!!

NXT is crashing, price dropped 70%, SELL NOW!!!

[ShroomsKit_Disgrace]

According to Darkota, in crypto world the coins die when they INCREASE in price!!!! Hahaha

NXT +200% last month. Check the charts.

[darkota]

NXT was always  a scam. Anyone who actually bought NXT, I have two words for you: SELL NOW!!

I just sold my remaining NXT before the price reaches 1 satoshi. This coin is dying fast, SELL NOW!!

Just got my friends to sell all their NXT, they got out early, you can too. SELL NOW!!!

NXT is crashing, price dropped 70%, SELL NOW!!!

300million NXT was just sold today....NXT is dead.

[megashira1]

Looks like you want cheap coins. Doesn't seem to be working tho.

[Tai Zen]

1.  I want to let everyone know that myself, QBTC, Uniqueorn, and Damelon have been on video conference with John to investigate this matter.  The others will confirm what I say when we finish the talk with John.

2.  We are trying to be as neutral as possible to investigate this matter.  So far John has answered all our questions and has been very cooperative and has not been evasive in his answers.  He has been open to volunteer access to his personal emails, computers, etc for forensics review.

3.  We will figure out what we need from John to investigate this matter further and he is being cooperative and open to give us access to his personal accounts because he wants his name cleared.

Please give us some time so we can review and research this matter.

Thanks for your patience.

Tai Zen

[bluemeanie1]

Hi Tai!

when are you posting this video to the internet for everyone to view?

-bm

1.  I want to let everyone know that myself, QBTC, Uniqueorn, and Damelon have been on video conference with John to investigate this matter.  The others will confirm what I say when we finish the talk with John.

2.  We are trying to be as neutral as possible to investigate this matter.  So far John has answered all our questions and has been very cooperative and has not been evasive in his answers.  He has been open to volunteer access to his personal emails, computers, etc for forensics review.

3.  We will figure out what we need from John to investigate this matter further and he is being cooperative and open to give us access to his personal accounts because he wants his name cleared.

Please give us some time so we can review and research this matter.

Thanks for your patience.

Tai Zen

[allcoinminer]

1.  I want to let everyone know that myself, QBTC, Uniqueorn, and Damelon have been on video conference with John to investigate this matter.  The others will confirm what I say when we finish the talk with John.

2.  We are trying to be as neutral as possible to investigate this matter.  So far John has answered all our questions and has been very cooperative and has not been evasive in his answers.  He has been open to volunteer access to his personal emails, computers, etc for forensics review.

3.  We will figure out what we need from John to investigate this matter further and he is being cooperative and open to give us access to his personal accounts because he wants his name cleared.

Please give us some time so we can review and research this matter.

Thanks for your patience.

Tai Zen

Any suit filing? IMO, Its a clear case of cheating and can be push to legal action.

[QBTC]

1.  I want to let everyone know that myself, QBTC, Uniqueorn, and Damelon have been on video conference with John to investigate this matter.  The others will confirm what I say when we finish the talk with John.

2.  We are trying to be as neutral as possible to investigate this matter.  So far John has answered all our questions and has been very cooperative and has not been evasive in his answers.  He has been open to volunteer access to his personal emails, computers, etc for forensics review.

3.  We will figure out what we need from John to investigate this matter further and he is being cooperative and open to give us access to his personal accounts because he wants his name cleared.

Please give us some time so we can review and research this matter.

Thanks for your patience.

Tai Zen

We have been talking with John for more than one hour and I've been very pleased with his transparency and willingness to help resolve this unfortunate situation.

[EvilDave]

I had a bad feeling about that guy from the start.  Most of the NXT people talk it up, but he was screaming how great it is.  Anytime somebody is screaming on these forums I think it is a scam.  But so far all the NXT people have been really honest and generally involved in the tech.  This guy though didn't have anything to do with developing.  So sad that one guy can pump the price so high and then rip people off.  

It was a hacker which toke the control of Jhon's account, wasn't it? That could happen to anyone.... what we should do now is verify the identity when one of the community members asks for this amount of money.
It was a Hacker which have nothing to do with nxt security or the integrity of this guy... Is like one reputable member of btc community get hacked and ask for funds, no one doubt about his good intentios and everyone send money thinking that is the real account owner

There's no ascertained hacker - only speculation at the moment as no one can apparently get a hold of him.  John is apparently on the world's longest flight, probably has zipped around the equator a few times.  

Shouldn't people have John's phone number?

BM's theory is likely the correct one - John is a crooked guy who saw an opportunity to build hype and now he's gone (in the wind) with $200K+.  He'll probably infiltrate another coin community and try to get money off them.

Here are some observations:

1)  It appears the majority of the btc in the account belong to the scammer and was used to "prime the pump" and create a sense of "social proof" to make it seem legit.  The bitcoins were sent into the account in roughly 3 min and roughly 15 min intervals which is weird.... statistically, it doesn't appear to be statistically probable that random people around the world would just send btc in precise time intervals like that which leads me to think that probably 175 of the those 202 btc already belong to the scammer.

2)  There has NOT been conclusive evidence that John Manglaviti is guilty nor innoccent.  I have friends sitting in u.s. prisons for being accused of drug crimes in which they did not commit or even know about so let's make sure we have irrefutable evidence before we start making judgement or accusations.

Having "feelings about the guy" or he "screaming about how great he was" will probably not constitute as "evidence" in most people's eyes or in any court.

3) I personally know that nearly half a dozen people are in direct contact with John investigating this matter at the moment and they will probably share their findings once they have some solid proof of guilt or innocence.

4)  John is not the "public face" or "public figure" or "leader" of nxt.  We have ricky james, myself, brian snyder, etc. and many others who have spoken publicly about nxt.  does that make us the public figure of nxt? probably not.  all it means is that we spoke about nxt in public.  Don't kid yourself about this "public" or "leader" nonsense.

5) Some say, "The statue of limitations for these sort of crimes is 7 years or less."  This is not true. In the U.S. if the police does not know that a crime existed there is no statue of limitation.  A statue of limitation begins when the police are fully aware that a crime happened and chose not to pursue it. in this case, a crime has occurred but no one knows who is the perpetrator so the crime can be picked up at any time when the police decide to investigate it.

6) The nxt community is made up of very talented and smart individuals n fairly experienced in crypto.  Accusing the nxt community of being foolish about giving up 200 btc to a scammer is retarded especiallly when the majority of the btc in the scammer's account was owned by the scammer himself.  Let's not make a mountain out of an ant hill.

7)  The best way to clear up this mess n move on is not to make accusations but to put yourself in the shoes of John and ask yourself.... if you were innocent... what would you do to provide conclusive evidence that you were innocent to the community?  Then ask John to provide the evidence.
If John is guilty then I do hope he gets what he deserves.  However, if he is innocent, it would be a shame to slam an innocent person with a lifetime ban in crypto.

My comments here are just my opinions based on the experiences I've had with the U.S. federal court systems.  Do not think that I believe John to be innocent or guilty.  I am simply stating what i observe and investigating the truth as well.

Tai Zen

Time for a swift quote from Tai Zen methinks.

I am surprised that we still have posters on BTT who keep on trotting out the old "NXT is a scamcoin" routine. You'd have thought they'd have given up by now......

Anyhow: this scam had precisely f**k all to do with the NXT technology itself. Just people, mail, forum, Twitter, and BTC....NXT hardly got a look in.