Big scam in NXT hundreds of BTC stolen with a one post

[ShroomsKit_Disgrace]

Just gain some credibility and answer vanbreuk's questions.

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[farl4web]

Guys, please let this topic die. Bluemania has an answer to everything. 

[Daedelus]

But in the meantime, lets trump up charges about absolutely nothing to someone who is pointing out what a fraud this is!

How is it trumped up charges? You yourself admitted in this thread you  were paid money for project that you now don't intend to finish?

I never said I was giving up on the project.

-bm

And how are we supposed to read some of your statements in this thread, like the worthlessness of NXT?

I think it's quite simple to understand. Disregard for a moment the whole recent scam story. I come online and see that the developer of one project I invested in has said, among others, that "NXT is essentially worthless", and accuses the Nxt community of being a guild of thieves. Of course, the market value of the project totally sinks. What would you do? Most likely the same a lot of us did, which is simply wait for a statement or an explanation. The questions are very simple.

- Why do you think that NXT is "essentially worthless"?

- Does your opinion imply that AutoDAC is not going to be developed, at least with yourself in the lead?

- If so, what are you going to do with the +1M NXT you received for its development?

Can you please answer these questions to the people who invested and was following the project?

Bump.

[ChekaZ]

Does anyone have the address of the 'collected' bitcoins? 

[bluemeanie1]

But in the meantime, lets trump up charges about absolutely nothing to someone who is pointing out what a fraud this is!

How is it trumped up charges? You yourself admitted in this thread you  were paid money for project that you now don't intend to finish?

I never said I was giving up on the project.

-bm

And how are we supposed to read some of your statements in this thread, like the worthlessness of NXT?

I think it's quite simple to understand. Disregard for a moment the whole recent scam story. I come online and see that the developer of one project I invested in has said, among others, that "NXT is essentially worthless", and accuses the Nxt community of being a guild of thieves. Of course, the market value of the project totally sinks. What would you do? Most likely the same a lot of us did, which is simply wait for a statement or an explanation. The questions are very simple.

- Why do you think that NXT is "essentially worthless"?

- Does your opinion imply that AutoDAC is not going to be developed, at least with yourself in the lead?

- If so, what are you going to do with the +1M NXT you received for its development?

Can you please answer these questions to the people who invested and was following the project?

there were a number of confusing components to this whole thing, intentionally created that was(not by me, I was enthusiastic about the idea).  I have offered to work anything out with anyone who 1) can identify themselves as an actual person 2) can credibly claim they were cheated.

important points:

1) I was not the issuer of this asset.  I was not the fundraiser.

2) I have never sold a single share of NXTautoDAC

3) I did not agree with the asset description and made it clear to the asset issuer

I did begin to suspect that the price of NXTautoDAC was being churned/faked.  I have no way of knowing.  The only right thing to do is to offer to work with anyone who is a real person who might have been involved in this.  So far one person came forward with a claim to 2400 nxt.  Fact is I have no real liabilities here either on an ethical or legal basis.  James is primarily responsible for this.  Most of these claims being made against me are false and the reason why they are emerging is because I'm being critical of NXT.

Why is James not being criticized?  He clearly had a lot to do with this.  The answer is obvious.

-bm

[bluemeanie1]

Guys, please let this topic die. Bluemania has an answer to everything. 

of course Im not even allowed to defend myself, and meanwhile we make excuses for what was obviously theft.

this "NXT community" is a mockery of the word 'community'.

-bm

[Daedelus]

But in the meantime, lets trump up charges about absolutely nothing to someone who is pointing out what a fraud this is!

How is it trumped up charges? You yourself admitted in this thread you  were paid money for project that you now don't intend to finish?

I never said I was giving up on the project.

-bm

And how are we supposed to read some of your statements in this thread, like the worthlessness of NXT?

I think it's quite simple to understand. Disregard for a moment the whole recent scam story. I come online and see that the developer of one project I invested in has said, among others, that "NXT is essentially worthless", and accuses the Nxt community of being a guild of thieves. Of course, the market value of the project totally sinks. What would you do? Most likely the same a lot of us did, which is simply wait for a statement or an explanation. The questions are very simple.

- Why do you think that NXT is "essentially worthless"?

- Does your opinion imply that AutoDAC is not going to be developed, at least with yourself in the lead?

- If so, what are you going to do with the +1M NXT you received for its development?

Can you please answer these questions to the people who invested and was following the project?

there were a number of confusing components to this whole thing, intentionally created that was(not by me, I was enthusiastic about the idea).  I have offered to work anything out with anyone who 1) can identify themselves as an actual person 2) can credibly claim they were cheated.

important points:

1) I was not the issuer of this asset.  I was not the fundraiser.

2) I have never sold a single share of NXTautoDAC

3) I did not agree with the asset description and made it clear to the asset issuer

I did begin to suspect that the price of NXTautoDAC was being churned/faked.  I have no way of knowing.  The only right thing to do is to offer to work with anyone who is a real person who might have been involved in this.  So far one person came forward with a claim to 2400 nxt.  Fact is I have no real liabilities here either on an ethical or legal basis.  James is primarily responsible for this.  Most of these claims being made against me are false and the reason why they are emerging is because I'm being critical of NXT.

Why is James not being criticized?  He clearly had a lot to do with this.  The answer is obvious.

-bm

What has James done? Just set it out, don't go off on a tangent.

[VanBreuk]

I'm not claiming I was cheated. Right now I'm not criticizing anything. I'm not demanding any refunds. I'm only asking three questions that are relevant for any person who invested.

Again.

- Why do you think that NXT is "essentially worthless"?

- Does your opinion imply that AutoDAC is not going to be developed, at least with yourself in the lead?

- If so, what are you going to do with the +1M NXT you received for its development?

Can you please answer these questions to the people who invested and was following the project?

This might start to get ridiculous, but for as long as I'm logged in I'll keep repeating them until you deign to reply. It might be a personal quirk of mine, but I don't like being ignored.

Thank you.

[gs02xzz]

On the payments, I made one of them from our community funds (33,700 Nxt) to this account: https://nxtblocks.info/#section/accountId/NXT-BKPE-L5KH-2C5D-BKDXS

I didn't know that BM actually got same bounty from two different Nxt Committee. Pauncer from Tech Committee also sent him same amount of Nxt  - https://nxtforum.org/technical-development-applications/ann-hire-of-bluemeanie1-for-'virtual-corporations'-features-development/

[Eadeqa]

Guys, please let this topic die. Bluemania has an answer to everything.  

of course Im not even allowed to defend myself, and meanwhile we make excuses for what was obviously theft.

Once again it was not obvious if his account was NOT hacked. Why does this guy keep repeating the same lie over and over again calling it "obvious"?

BM is obviously retarded.

Too bad for people who gave him money for a project.

[Vega]

Guys, please let this topic die. Bluemania has an answer to everything. 

of course Im not even allowed to defend myself, and meanwhile we make excuses for what was obviously theft.

this "NXT community" is a mockery of the word 'community'.

-bm

Well we are pretty much united when it comes to you. That is a pretty good community.
You beating the drum about the scam that happened on the forum. I bet you can't even get the people who were scamed, to agree with you. What does that tell you?

Come, on, try it. Get one of the victims to side with you.

[bluemeanie1]

On the payments, I made one of them from our community funds (33,700 Nxt) to this account: https://nxtblocks.info/#section/accountId/NXT-BKPE-L5KH-2C5D-BKDXS

I didn't know that BM actually got same bounty from two different Nxt Committee. Pauncer from Tech Committee also sent him same amount of Nxt  - https://nxtforum.org/technical-development-applications/ann-hire-of-bluemeanie1-for-'virtual-corporations'-features-development/

making up more stories.

-bm

[bluemeanie1]

Guys, please let this topic die. Bluemania has an answer to everything. 

of course Im not even allowed to defend myself, and meanwhile we make excuses for what was obviously theft.

this "NXT community" is a mockery of the word 'community'.

-bm

Well we are pretty much united when it comes to you.

sock puppets unite!

-bm

[ShroomsKit_Disgrace]

Bm,

Answer questions please. I just ask you this.

[Vega]

Guys, please let this topic die. Bluemania has an answer to everything. 

of course Im not even allowed to defend myself, and meanwhile we make excuses for what was obviously theft.

this "NXT community" is a mockery of the word 'community'.

-bm

Well we are pretty much united when it comes to you.

sock puppets unite!

-bm

You are truly delusional.

[Vega]

How about my other suggestion. You scream about the scam. Get one of the victims on your side. I bet you can't.

[VanBreuk]

bm, I don't understand what's so complicated about the questions I'm asking. They are sincere questions. There's no trap involved. I don't have an agenda. I just want them addressed.

Again.

- Why do you think that NXT is "essentially worthless"?

- Does your opinion imply that AutoDAC is not going to be developed, at least with yourself in the lead?

- If so, what are you going to do with the +1M NXT you received for its development?

You could simply answer "I don't know" to each of them, if that's what happens here. I've been in internet forums for twenty years and never had to repeat a question so many times.

[bluemeanie1]

Bm,

Answer questions please. I just ask you this.

continually claiming that Im ignoring the public doesnt make it true.  the answers are all there.

-bm

[Damelon]

33700 Tech fund https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/10278516869046547041
1000000 NXTVenture https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/9677367184378728685
33700 Communit Fund https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/16689648276761346571
5000 jl777 https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/213921033998505729
Rest Raised with Asset and most likely you have control of that funds too still (or sold them)

First: why am I not addressing the John and "sockpuppet" issue anymore?
A1: because I already given my view on how "innocent until proven guilty" works and because "prove to me to the standards I set, or you are a sockpuppet" does not make logical sense.
A2: Because I want to address this issue:

no idea what all that stuff is.  A payment form NXTVenture to me is a 'community payment'?  how do you figure that works?

there was a community tech dev payment that I have already claimed I am willing to refund(even though I dont think I'm liable).  That was really the only credible body that was involved in this and I only intend to cooperate with them.

I am going to use this account here: https://nxtblocks.info/#section/accountId/NXT-BKPE-L5KH-2C5D-BKDXS

It's all open and for all to see:

All these payments came into your account, bluemeanie. Every single one.
Now, I find it passingly strange that if you wondered where these payments were coming from, that you stíll decided to cash out all of them not two weeks ago to bter.
The Assets were put on sale and 419333 Nxt was sent to NXT-WEC8-EV23-6U2M-2EHLP and then on to https://nxtblocks.info/#section/accountId/NXT-AY5L-JF5R-DULG-6VQ8B, from where it was sent to https://nxtblocks.info/#section/accountId/NXT-LSC3-VB9T-2W3V-BH7FB which is the bter account.

1'049'995 NXT was sent to bter, and yet you claim that you had no idea where it came from...

As to the Assets:

The NxtAutoDAC assets were sent on 15-05 and 01-06:
http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=6996594153988857002
http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=17775780885241000806

Bar a few, they were moved to the "intermediate" account on 02-06: http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=1871213445535284844
They are still there.

The NxtVenture Assets were sold off.

So, the question that bugs me here is that you are so adamant in attacking people and apparently baffled by people questioning your taking of funds and then bailing is such a surprising manner, killing people's investments in the process, I might add.

You yourself have made a killing two weeks ago. Some of that MAY have been legitimate wages, they MAY be not.
I dó think it's suggestive.

My last question would be: if you didn't know where those funds came from, did you think a fairy donated them?
I find that hard to believe. In our talks you have proven to be a highly intelligent person, so that just doesn't wash with me.

Edit: also, I find the message attached to this transaction very, véry sad in light of what is happening now: https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/17375996629400525041

[Daedelus]

Bm,

Answer questions please. I just ask you this.

continually claiming that Im ignoring the public doesnt make it true.  the answers are all there.

-bm

No but not answering their questions does.