Wekkel
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June 08, 2017, 10:11:30 AM |
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"loads of people that actually study crypto have no idea what NEM crypto is!!".
Fixed that for you.
This goes for a large part of the public. That's not a problem as long as the crypto app actually solves an existing problem. In that last category, I see a lot of gaps between story and reality.
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June 08, 2017, 11:53:31 AM
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"loads of people that actually study crypto have no idea what NEM crypto is!!".
Fixed that for you.
This goes for a large part of the public. That's not a problem as long as the crypto app actually solves an existing problem. In that last category, I see a lot of gaps between story and reality.
Thats right, the public has to grasp "crypto" first (i don´t see that really happening yet, on a big scale), only then will they even hear the word: NEM. But give it time and fiat-pressure, and they will. Patience. So, wasting to much money on advertising now, is wasted. NEM is like a spring, coiling up for the right moment . . . (and when that moment comes, then fire our community-funds all out ! ) I like the "blue ocean" approach ! |
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Zylon
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June 08, 2017, 12:13:16 PM
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So, wasting to much money on advertising now, is wasted.
NEM is like a spring, coiling up for the right moment . . .
That is not right, it would not be wasted money! NEM is in competition with other blockchains in present and has to win this war first, after that we can talk about mainstream. Take a look at ETH, their technology is worse than NEM's, but thier marketing is way much better.... Many new Coins are build up by the ETH blockchain, just because ETH is much more popular than NEM is! We are losing time and possibilities right now every day! |
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NEMergizer
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June 08, 2017, 12:25:29 PM |
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You can have the best tech in the whole world, but if no one understands and doesn't want to implement it, it becomes a useless piece of tech. The power is all in the marketing. Why can't they just understand? Apparently the techy people on Nem don't seem to understand and they have now become even lazier since we have become number 4 on coinmarketcap.
I can't buy anything useful with Xem. I don't know where to spend it. It has no debit card either.
NEM needs marketing cause the majority of crypto users do not know anything about NEM yet. Only when NEM jumped to the 4th position people started to read about it. Then they got hit with bunch of Japanese pages. It is funny though that in youtube a lot of blogs refer to NEM as the best Blockchain tech out there. I can imagine how tough it was for them to collect asian pieces of info about NEM before getting into such conclusion. |
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NEMergizer
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June 08, 2017, 12:33:10 PM |
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Tried to contact nem foundation, their contact form throws error when trying to sumbit  They don't keep anything quickly up to date. The main page is rubbish. It should have already be changed, targeting businesses and even the nano wallet isn't perfect after people had to wait for years for a decent mobile wallet. TRUE TRUE TRUE AND TRUE! |
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marketone
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June 08, 2017, 12:35:26 PM |
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You can have the best tech in the whole world, but if no one understands and doesn't want to implement it, it becomes a useless piece of tech. The power is all in the marketing. Why can't they just understand? Apparently the techy people on Nem don't seem to understand and they have now become even lazier since we have become number 4 on coinmarketcap.
I can't buy anything useful with Xem. I don't know where to spend it. It has no debit card either.
NEM needs marketing cause the majority of crypto users do not know anything about NEM yet. Only when NEM jumped to the 4th position people started to read about it. Then they got hit with bunch of Japanese pages. It is funny though that in youtube a lot of blogs they refer to NEM as the best Blockchain tech out there. I can imagine how tough it was for them to collect asian pieces of info about NEM before getting into such conclusion. Yes, NEM is becoming more popular because once people lot of confidence in the project. There are a lot of people who keep on waiting for price pump but now the price is kept on dipping in the market. Many people believe that NEM is the best blockchain tech so only many people are showing interest towards it. |
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NEMergizer
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June 08, 2017, 12:53:56 PM |
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The major problem that is obvious nowadays is that NEM has grown way beyond its current dev, marketing and management teams. Perhaps we should all be thankful for NEM core team, they did everything right to take NEM to the next technical level where it solidly stands as the world's 4th major blockchain technology. In the near future the world will be thankful for these efforts as NEM advances towards #1 position. Today NEM requires much more effort to remain and advance to the next level. Unfortunately it seems that these efforts are private with 100% focus in the technical aspect of NEM. There should be equivalent balanced efforts in marketing NEM to reach and well inform the user base it deserves.
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pfrtlpfmpf
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June 08, 2017, 01:11:21 PM |
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You´re all right, we need marketing, but thats happening in asia right now, as i understand.
I also do not want it to happen the same way as it did with NXT: great super-tech, but understatement until oblivion comes.
You can´t wait, until people will search and find you. Understood.
But its not, as if they´re not working on it. You just can´t see it, because its happening in asian languages.
I wish, we had a team of translators, working full time, bringing the facts to us.
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NEMergizer
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June 08, 2017, 01:12:40 PM |
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One of the major reasons that made me interested in NEM at first place is the fact that it is very green when it comes to energy consumption. It is still the main reason why I believe that NEM will gain the #1 position sooner than later. Why such rich straight forward point is not well highlighted in NEM's website? This is what makes NEM superior to Bitcoin and Ethereum.
It is not the banking solution, it is not multi-signature, it is not mosaic or namespaces, it is not the adcanced security features, nor the upcoming high number of transactions per second with Mijin, nor the easy APIs and third party apps integration. It all started with the brilliant POI "Prove of Importance" idea that made NEM free of the traditional attack surfaces, way much more energy efficient and secure than any traditional POW and POS block-chaining technologies.
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June 08, 2017, 01:21:01 PM |
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One of the major reasons that made me interested in NEM at first place is the fact that it is very green when it comes to energy consumption. It is still the main reason why I believe that NEM will gain the #1 position sooner than later. Why such rich straight forward point is not well highlighted in NEM's website? This is what makes NEM superior to Bitcoin and Ethereum.
It is not the banking solution, it is not multi-signature, it is not mosaic or namespaces, it is not the adcanced security features, nor the upcoming high number of transactions per second with Mijin, nor the easy APIs and third party apps integration. It all started with the brilliant POI "Prove of Importance" idea that made NEM free of the traditional attack surfaces, way much more energy efficient and secure than any traditional POW and POS block-chaining technologies.
I became vegetarian, because of NEM  |
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NEMergizer
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June 08, 2017, 01:24:38 PM |
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Currently POI is covered in NEM's website under one of the links that would hardly be followed. And when followed it shows this:
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"Proof-of-Importance" (POI) is the first reputation based blockchain algorithm that just doesn’t reward those that hold as much stake as possible without spending or those that do unrelated work outside of a blockchain ambivalent to the actual activity in it.
Each account’s individual importance score is calculated by stake, how much of that stake has been vested, the transactions going out of the account, and with which accounts it transacts. This encourages accounts on the NEM blockchain to be active accounts in the network
To learn more about POI in NEM please read Chapter 7 of the NEM Technical Reference.
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This doesn't give any good understanding to non-technical users. Instead, the effect of POI should be highlighted in the main page without having to follow a link. NEM should be marketed as the world's greenest most secure fastest environment friendly POI block chaining technology.
This is just one of many point why NEM website needs to be redesigned and why more marketing efforts are needed to better educate non-technical users about NEM.
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NEMergizer
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June 08, 2017, 01:35:30 PM |
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Go to nem official website "NEM.io" and you will find the major highlighted points under "What Makes NEM Unique Among Blockchains?":
Together with Mijin, NEM is the first public/private blockchain combination.
Designed with all new code to be secure, scalable, fast, flexible and easy to build on utilizing a simple API.
NEM features on-chain multisig and multi-user contracts with push notifications, a token feature called Mosaics, and namespaces.
Together with Mijin, NEM is the first public/private blockchain combination.
Designed with all new code to be secure, scalable, fast, flexible and easy to build on utilizing a simple API.
Do you think these are easy points to digest for non-technical users? No wonder why blogs on youtube can't well explain why NEM is superior. These are non-technical bloggers targeting non-technical users. Please do something about better educating users with non-technical words.
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samysamy1
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June 08, 2017, 01:38:00 PM |
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So I asked one of our electronics stores who accepts bitcoin to also accept NEM. They told me they are going to expand on crypto but they are definetly not accepting NEM, since, same as XRP, it is owned by a private subject    so they are not going to support this "synthetic currency" since it's not even crypto. Earlier today there was a crypto ""expert"" explaining top 10 cryptos on twitter, stating that NEM and Ripple are not even blockchains. (yeah both of them put shit Ripple and a diamond NEM in one bag and shook it) Conclusion: loads of people that actually study crypto have no idea what NEM is!! imagine that people would know that NEM is most decentralized public blockchain! We need to somehow communicate what NEM is to the public. There could be a marketer among us who would be willing to educate public for a bounty. Do I see any hands risen? Absolutely right! Nobody knows what NEM is, because we have zero marketing! It is the same old story and the NEM team won't change it! Never, for ever  Calm down (and read up), theres lots and lots in the background going on, but we´re ninja, and when you least expect it: wham ! Btw, where do you think, did the runup lately, come from ? Jeez, for some people it´s never enough ! (i got that "tmtps" again, it starts with a distinct headache, ) Don't get me wrong, I love this project and I know that many things are going on in the background and at least NEM will be no.1 ! But the journey would be much easier and faster with a little bit advertisement... I feel you, but if we would learn japanese, there would be a whole other picture, don´t you think ? Asia first, then the west. Our success is in Asia first. And why would we learn Japanese? English and Arabic are all the languages you need to communicate with the majority of the world. Arabic ? Lol Ehh, yeahhhh. I don't think you have traveled the world that often. |
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samysamy1
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June 08, 2017, 01:42:42 PM |
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"loads of people that actually study crypto have no idea what NEM crypto is!!".
Fixed that for you.
This goes for a large part of the public. That's not a problem as long as the crypto app actually solves an existing problem. In that last category, I see a lot of gaps between story and reality.
You are 100% right, that's why we have to explain Nem to them in a non techy way. They can already look up videos what Bitcoin is and what benefits it brings them to their daily lives. The problem with Nem is that popular people (bloggers) who misunderstands it, may compare it with Ripple (we are on it's tail anyway) and explain it like this to the normal layman. It also doesn't help when they read that stupid catapult paper, because it only proves their suspicions. It is said because of catapult, they price is gonna catapult, well I think we should be happy if it won't come out. |
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samysamy1
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June 08, 2017, 01:43:32 PM |
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Do you want to know what people talk about NEM ? When will be the next up ? There are already 400 members and the number is growing ! Join to the biggest crypto trolling chat ever !!! These are the crypto people ans speculators. We are talking here about people outside of the crypto world. |
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NEMergizer
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June 08, 2017, 01:46:32 PM |
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In NEM you do not need to invest in any electro hungry hardware that is constantly generating poisons electo-magnitic waves wasting energy and heat where tons of cities and towns in the world are lacking electricity for daily life. A blockchain technology that doesn't respect energy consumption is more likely to die sooner than later. In NEM you do not need any hardware, all you need is a NEM balance and be a NEM user. The more you send/receive XEM the more important you are to the network. No assets are wasted in hardware, no energy waste, no heat waste, no waste in resources and no electro-magnetic poison. |
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Zylon
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June 08, 2017, 01:51:58 PM |
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Currently POI is covered in NEM's website under one of the links that would hardly be followed. And when followed it shows this:
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"Proof-of-Importance" (POI) is the first reputation based blockchain algorithm that just doesn’t reward those that hold as much stake as possible without spending or those that do unrelated work outside of a blockchain ambivalent to the actual activity in it.
Each account’s individual importance score is calculated by stake, how much of that stake has been vested, the transactions going out of the account, and with which accounts it transacts. This encourages accounts on the NEM blockchain to be active accounts in the network
To learn more about POI in NEM please read Chapter 7 of the NEM Technical Reference.
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This doesn't give any good understanding to non-technical users. Instead, the effect of POI should be highlighted in the main page without having to follow a link. NEM should be marketed as the world's greenest most secure fastest environment friendly POI block chaining technology.
This is just one of many point why NEM website needs to be redesigned and why more marketing efforts are needed to better educate non-technical users about NEM.
Absolutly right! Not everybody is a NERD who is buying Crypto-Coins, we need much more mainstream explanations! And you are right with your statement that NEM is 'the world's greenest most secure fastest environment friendly POI block chaining technology' ! We have to spread this out to the world ! We have so much power but we are not using it wisely |
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samysamy1
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June 08, 2017, 02:01:39 PM |
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So, wasting to much money on advertising now, is wasted.
NEM is like a spring, coiling up for the right moment . . .
That is not right, it would not be wasted money! NEM is in competition with other blockchains in present and has to win this war first, after that we can talk about mainstream. Take a look at ETH, their technology is worse than NEM's, but thier marketing is way much better.... Many new Coins are build up by the ETH blockchain, just because ETH is much more popular than NEM is! We are losing time and possibilities right now every day! Now we recently reached number 4, people started to turn their backs on us. Haven't you seen Ripple dying already? The same fate waits us. Just look at NVO.io. They have adopted the first top 3 coins and many other coins under us like ETC and LTC. they simply skipped us even though these guys know lots about crypto. There must be something wrong with Nem. If we don't do our best to keep to advance our place on the coinmarketcap, it will slowly slide backwards behind etc and ltc. |
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samysamy1
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June 08, 2017, 02:03:50 PM |
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You can have the best tech in the whole world, but if no one understands and doesn't want to implement it, it becomes a useless piece of tech. The power is all in the marketing. Why can't they just understand? Apparently the techy people on Nem don't seem to understand and they have now become even lazier since we have become number 4 on coinmarketcap.
I can't buy anything useful with Xem. I don't know where to spend it. It has no debit card either.
NEM needs marketing cause the majority of crypto users do not know anything about NEM yet. Only when NEM jumped to the 4th position people started to read about it. Then they got hit with bunch of Japanese pages. It is funny though that in youtube a lot of blogs they refer to NEM as the best Blockchain tech out there. I can imagine how tough it was for them to collect asian pieces of info about NEM before getting into such conclusion. Yes, NEM is becoming more popular because once people lot of confidence in the project. There are a lot of people who keep on waiting for price pump but now the price is kept on dipping in the market. Many people believe that NEM is the best blockchain tech so only many people are showing interest towards it. Have you seen Digibyte's Telegram? Have you seen how many members they have? Compare that with our Telegram. |
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