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December 04, 2014, 06:36:58 PM |
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Idol yes you are correct! The ratio is based on the price not the number of coins.
Red5standingby, thank you for those focused words! you have indeed been an inspirational force in my personal development in this crypto world of ours! As have so many others who call Aero their community Thank you ALL !
Im not going to keep on but i have goose bumps when i know how close we are to something remarkable its this very line of thought which Keeps pushing me! As you know I always want whats best for the majority as opposed to the minority, and is why i had to keep this (and my other plans ) locked down deep inside to ensure nobody had any unfair advantage or try to scam this CFC by whatever means. Like i have said time and time again I don't do things with out a very good reason.
It was never my motive to bring such or a shock to you all.
Coin-moron. Lol, I'm a humble man who's love for managing large systems and finding eloquent solutions to complex coding problems which is one of my principle driving factors. Its my job to be ahead of the cure. I find my skills of persuasion are lacking in comparison of others whom i have observed in this arena, however I can only pull you all along so far with words alone I only speak the truth and is all i have ever offered. My character is such that I do have a certain drive which continues to propel me through many problematic and difficult periods in my life. I will leave my life's work do the convincing.
I will elaborate on one point which was made previously which was Revenue Streams, This is not hypothetical and all is more than easily feasible and quite easily achieved. I cannot go into specifics as I am not allowed (yet!) but I have been working tirelessly on deals with "providers" of "services" and other sectors as they can see the "writing on the wall" which will be brought about by the radical cutting edge technologies which are looming on the horizon.
These markets are huge in terms of numbers of end-users and are also take-up rates are astronomical.
But further than being just an OUTLET of said service provider we will take over a key position in a very important market segment which will enable us to vastly out perform any competitors via the exploitation of our technology to enable a paradigm shift and bring about an evolution of the old ridged systems which are currently in use globally today.
I have said previously this is a game changer both in terms of day to day life for us all but just as importantly for the clever ppl who have also seen this imminent shift on the horizon!
How so?If price drop before CFC start holders lose.Start price of CFC no1 is 10000k.and coin supply is 9,12 mil.Holders hold 2.88 mil.And price range between round 1-3 is 10000-11000.Can someone explain this to me?Idol please!
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December 04, 2014, 06:40:00 PM |
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Idol yes you are correct! The ratio is based on the price not the number of coins.
Red5standingby, thank you for those focused words! you have indeed been an inspirational force in my personal development in this crypto world of ours! As have so many others who call Aero their community Thank you ALL !
Im not going to keep on but i have goose bumps when i know how close we are to something remarkable its this very line of thought which Keeps pushing me! As you know I always want whats best for the majority as opposed to the minority, and is why i had to keep this (and my other plans ) locked down deep inside to ensure nobody had any unfair advantage or try to scam this CFC by whatever means. Like i have said time and time again I don't do things with out a very good reason.
It was never my motive to bring such or a shock to you all.
Coin-moron. Lol, I'm a humble man who's love for managing large systems and finding eloquent solutions to complex coding problems which is one of my principle driving factors. Its my job to be ahead of the cure. I find my skills of persuasion are lacking in comparison of others whom i have observed in this arena, however I can only pull you all along so far with words alone I only speak the truth and is all i have ever offered. My character is such that I do have a certain drive which continues to propel me through many problematic and difficult periods in my life. I will leave my life's work do the convincing.
I will elaborate on one point which was made previously which was Revenue Streams, This is not hypothetical and all is more than easily feasible and quite easily achieved. I cannot go into specifics as I am not allowed (yet!) but I have been working tirelessly on deals with "providers" of "services" and other sectors as they can see the "writing on the wall" which will be brought about by the radical cutting edge technologies which are looming on the horizon.
These markets are huge in terms of numbers of end-users and are also take-up rates are astronomical.
But further than being just an OUTLET of said service provider we will take over a key position in a very important market segment which will enable us to vastly out perform any competitors via the exploitation of our technology to enable a paradigm shift and bring about an evolution of the old ridged systems which are currently in use globally today.
I have said previously this is a game changer both in terms of day to day life for us all but just as importantly for the clever ppl who have also seen this imminent shift on the horizon!
How so?If price drop before CFC start holders lose.Start price of CFC no1 is 10000k.and coin supply is 9,12 mil.Holders hold 2.88 mil.And price range between round 1-3 is 10000-11000.Can someone explain this to me?Idol please! huh?
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Cloak1
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December 04, 2014, 06:46:35 PM |
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Hehe.Please tell me how you understand swap Thing?
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December 04, 2014, 06:48:10 PM |
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Would have been better to just push through with Aero. So much hasle now, almost like forking with differend coin count + relaunch, just to go forward + rebranding on top of it all
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idol
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December 04, 2014, 06:49:28 PM |
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Hehe.Please tell me how you understand swap Thing?
oh.. 2.88mil coin swap to 7.2mil aero at 2.5 to1 which gives 4000sat price for each aero..since cfc price is 10k thats what i got from the announcement
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December 04, 2014, 06:57:07 PM |
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Hehe.Please tell me how you understand swap Thing?
oh.. 2.88mil coin swap to 7.2mil aero at 2.5 to1 which gives 4000sat price for each aero..since cfc price is 10k thats what i got from the announcement So what number of coins have to do with current price of Aero and price of AeroME?
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idol
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December 04, 2014, 06:59:08 PM |
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Hehe.Please tell me how you understand swap Thing?
oh.. 2.88mil coin swap to 7.2mil aero at 2.5 to1 which gives 4000sat price for each aero..since cfc price is 10k thats what i got from the announcement So what number of coins have to do with current price of Aero and price of AeroME? lol i read the same post as you did and why are you keep asking me?
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December 04, 2014, 07:07:32 PM |
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Hehe.Please tell me how you understand swap Thing?
oh.. 2.88mil coin swap to 7.2mil aero at 2.5 to1 which gives 4000sat price for each aero..since cfc price is 10k thats what i got from the announcement So what number of coins have to do with current price of Aero and price of AeroME? So, howmuch ever quantity of Aero's you are buying lower than 4000 sats, is a steal.
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December 04, 2014, 07:07:50 PM |
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Marketcap of aero are onl 70.000$ or 188btc, do you think can get over 900btc from ico. What if ico fail?
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Cloak1
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December 04, 2014, 07:11:56 PM |
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Hehe.Please tell me how you understand swap Thing?
oh.. 2.88mil coin swap to 7.2mil aero at 2.5 to1 which gives 4000sat price for each aero..since cfc price is 10k thats what i got from the announcement So what number of coins have to do with current price of Aero and price of AeroME? lol i read the same post as you did and why are you keep asking me? LOL Sorry.But it is confusing.CFC price is fixed and current price is not.I dont see logic behind this.This need to be linked to ratio 1:2,5 not price.If i hold some coins the price is not important.
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December 04, 2014, 07:32:12 PM |
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Dev,
I'll hold my 160k coins, but I don't think I can buy more. I think you're a great dev, and I don't question that you can make this happen...But I've put time, and donation, done giveaways, did a lot of free promotion. I've been on this coin since the beginning. I've been one of your strongest supporters. I'm not bashing you, and I'm fine with the changes. This just ads more risk for all of us, please understand that. And I don't think you owe me anything, but... now you do have to prove that you are as good as you say, and actually back up the months of talk. Otherwise you're no better than the others. I'll remember you as Navajocoin, auroracoin, asiacoin, or all the other busts. Hopefully that means something.
I want to make a few points going further. If you rebrand... Please just make one decsion, and don't leave it to a vote...you need a solid brand, it's actually very important to a company. Also, don't say you're close when it seems like we're a good month out... It's almost as bad as setting a date. Finally, since this is your startup, you're not doing free work, if the company generates revenue you get to decide how the money is spent. This is your investment as much as it is ours. You're planning on making a profit, so please don't bring up that you're not getting paid, it's your risk too, and I don't feel bad for you on that end.
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December 04, 2014, 07:41:20 PM |
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Wouldnt letting market decide the value be the wisest move and just make the swap at 1:1 ratio? adding ~5mil more coins at 10k value just.. i dont get it, more supply at higher rate. Now theres the 7mil coins and supply and demand sets the value at 2-3k...
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December 04, 2014, 07:42:40 PM |
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Hopefully he's got investors lined up, because it only makes sense if that's true. I'd also like to hear from lyding.... He was around 1 million coins. I wonder he's thinking.
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December 04, 2014, 07:49:36 PM |
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I didnt post in this thread, but followed aero since the beginning. Currently I dont hold much coins anymore, as I sold most just recently.
I see one big problem with the ICO: Most of those that currently hold aero, wont buy more via the ICO (my assumption, but this is reasonable). So the success of the ICO depends on "outsiders". As such, I would probably ask myself why my investment gets devalued by 2.88/12 right away. If I would invest 1 BTC I would normally get 1/980*12M coins, with this ICO I will only get 1/980*9.12M coins. Now, the 2.88M coin bring a community with them and they wont be dumped right away, still my share of the network will be considerably smaller than it should be.
Of course you could just ask if 1200BTC is a fair marketcap for this project, and it could still be a decent investment, but the problem remains unless I missed something.
Plus, people will ask why AeroMe was expected to be released soon, and suddenly the dev needs 980BTC funding. Aero was trading at around 150BTC marketcap, now we are looking at a 5x increase. Dont get me wrong, I understand why he is doing this and he really shouldnt be asked to work for free (at best), but those points will be brought up (most likely in a not so nice way). And tbh, I probably would not buy into this ICO because of this (though I rarely buy ICO and when I do I usually dump minutes after the markets have opened).
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December 04, 2014, 07:52:33 PM |
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Hopefully he's got investors lined up, because it only makes sense if that's true...I'd also like to hear from lyding.... He was around 1 million coins. I wonder he's thinking.
Ppl are investing in Aero because Dev is good and honest.The community is also good and growing.This CFC is good thing but there is some misunderstanding with it.
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December 04, 2014, 07:54:22 PM |
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I think it's fair given the bitbay ICO, but like I said before it's going to be more risky. All you're hoping for is that it gives dev enough money to finish the project. If the revenue is as good as he says then there shouldn't be a problem post launch.
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December 04, 2014, 07:54:33 PM |
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I was wrong with coin swap with 12 million coins , but end supply = 12 million coins Swap rate should be at least 1.665, i'm not happy with this nonsense , i get less percent of the supply. Who care's about the price ? it will probably crash after IPO end... just look at Blocknet... ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I hold around 202 k aero, it will give me 80 k after swap, i will probabbly sell after this event ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) i only need a average 3800 sat to play breakeven.
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December 04, 2014, 07:56:08 PM |
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and theres the chance, that ICO fails, what then? Im not invested in Aero any more, just curious about the whole situation. Messing up the market to push coin forward is quite intresting solution
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December 04, 2014, 07:59:54 PM |
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I'm hoping (to god) that he's got an investor or a group who wants in and that's what caused the decision to do an IPO at the price.
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December 04, 2014, 08:05:19 PM |
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I think it's fair given the bitbay ICO, but like I said before it's going to be more risky. All you're hoping for is that it gives dev enough money to finish the project. If the revenue is as good as he says then there shouldn't be a problem post launch.
Bitbay is not exactly a money maker - like most big ICOs - apart from the first 3 minutes after the market opened. Plus I am very sceptical of the devs having bought coins themselves, as the order books were surprisingly thin right from the start for a 3000BTC ICO.
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