[ANN][XFC] Finercoin丨X11丨POW+POS丨First Working Anonymous Coin丨Launched June 26

[KeyserSozeMC]

i really pity these these poor bastards who sell low. Anyway thanks to them, more XFC for me

Not trying to start a FUD, but some guy on a trollbox was saying that this coin has 250K premine?
Is it true?

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[W0rkH0rse]

i really pity these these poor bastards who sell low. Anyway thanks to them, more XFC for me

Not trying to start a FUD, but some guy on a trollbox was saying that this coin has 250K premine?
Is it true?

According to the very first richlist, that is certainly not true. Whales probably have more than that by now tho.

[bangomatic]

No response from OP since a while 

Second stage almost complete. Working nonstop now have not abandoned you. More info on stage 2 @ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=661788.msg7458522#msg7458522

Thats great news. Thanks for the update.

[rafetaz]

i really pity these these poor bastards who sell low. Anyway thanks to them, more XFC for me

Not trying to start a FUD, but some guy on a trollbox was saying that this coin has 250K premine?
Is it true?

idk, but I´m buying cheap XFC today, so Thanks to that guy

[G K G]

i really pity these these poor bastards who sell low. Anyway thanks to them, more XFC for me

Not trying to start a FUD, but some guy on a trollbox was saying that this coin has 250K premine?
Is it true?

It has 162.5K premine thats 3.25%

[W0rkH0rse]

i really pity these these poor bastards who sell low. Anyway thanks to them, more XFC for me

Not trying to start a FUD, but some guy on a trollbox was saying that this coin has 250K premine?
Is it true?

It has 162.5K premine thats 3.25%

Looks like a lot of that is used to fill the anonymity coinjoin servers. Some has been paid out for bounties scratched off on first dev post. What does that leave left? about 1 btc worth of XFC? Trolls are complaining because the developers of the first working real anonymous cryptocurrency MIGHT make 1 bitcoin for all their work? You gotta be shitting me.

[G K G]

i really pity these these poor bastards who sell low. Anyway thanks to them, more XFC for me

Not trying to start a FUD, but some guy on a trollbox was saying that this coin has 250K premine?
Is it true?

It has 162.5K premine thats 3.25%

and also Yes, the dev didn't inform about the premine during launch. He did try to cheat.
But he did come out later and accepted his fault. Everyone has their own flaws and no1 is perfect in their character. This coin has a lot of work to be done under the hood and those things cannot be done free and no1 wants to give a good crypto-currency to the community and take nothing back. i assume the dev doesn't have a huge mining force for himself. and for these reasons he did the premine. When the initial announcement had a premine and the dev was crucified for having a premine, then he decided to remove the premine details and hide it, as he was desperate enough to launch this coin. You can check this in the first few pages. Though he is a cheater, he is true believer of his work and this coin(in my view) and so i believe he'll not abandon the coin at anytime and he is desperate enough to make his ideas work through this coin.

This coin has a real working CoinJoin and yes this one IS ANONYMOUS. Some may argue coinjoin is already used, but implementing it rather a tough job. And also the dev doesn't stop there. he does have more future plans for a much more easy implementation and better anon function.

Don't think i blindly support the dev. I only support this coin and the dev's work and not his character. If you read pages 25-33, you'll find iwas continously opposing the dev's action and it was my final effort that made the dev to come out open about the premine

guys thought we have inquired repeatedly about a explanation about the premine from the dev, he hsan't come out with any reply.
This suggests only one thing - that he is a cheater and is trying to scam us all.
Even if the annonymous works or not, the kinda devs don't deserve any forgiveness.

So what i suggest is, if the dev doesn't give us any explanation within 6Hrs we contact all exchanges and suggest them not to take this coin. and we could also tag him scammer

I do know that you all would have invested so much in this by using your own rigs or by renting (i myself had spent 0.12BTC to rent rigs). But that doesn't mean we'll have to support this scammer.

Yes, we accept responsibility for the premine, it is a necessary component.

[NewWorldCoiner]

So, what's going now then?

Apparently the premine was to be kept on an exchange, but now you say it's on some coinjoin server somewhere?

And where was the dev's announcement for this decision then? Seeing as the premine was lied about in the first place, perhaps it would be better to stick to the plan, or at least inform the community about any such changes? Trust isn't exactly running at an all time high is it?

[W0rkH0rse]

Nice to see the trolls poppin in, always a good market indicator!

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[dminer69]

Nice to see the trolls poppin in, always a good market indicator!

lol yea, since i see the premine is now a big factor of question on the coin, i think they would settle if the dev layouts hes premine plan on a details, expenses amount of the coin going to coinjoin, development and future development.

people right now look at the premine like the biggest lie or a factor to keep bashing on the dev.

possible solution: a simple expenses agenda with the details movements of the premine would help those who question the premine and the intentions of the dev.

[portalindo]

Nice to see the trolls poppin in, always a good market indicator!

lol yea, since i see the premine is now a big factor of question on the coin, i think they would settle if the dev layouts hes premine plan on a details, expenses amount of the coin going to coinjoin, development and future development.

people right now look at the premine like the biggest lie or a factor to keep bashing on the dev.

possible solution: a simple expenses agenda with the details movements of the premine would help those who question the premine and the intentions of the dev.

That simple task that even the dev cant provide us with, been through a few pages asking the dev to expose the bounty that he made and how much total premine that he took, no asnwer till now.

[G K G]

So, what's going now then?

Apparently the premine was to be kept on an exchange, but now you say it's on some coinjoin server somewhere?

And where was the dev's announcement for this decision then? Seeing as the premine was lied about in the first place, perhaps it would be better to stick to the plan, or at least inform the community about any such changes? Trust isn't exactly running at an all time high is it?

I really don't get what you're saying. The premine is not in any coinjoin server. I suppose the its in a wallet controlled by the dev team..

I assume the dev intents to use the premine to support the development of XFC and giveaway some bounties and had already given out some and ofcourse he'll keep a major part of it for himself and his team.

Even though he did lie and try to cheat us all, I would give him a second chance only for this coin sake, because i believe this coin has a good future and many scopes for further improvement and sustainability.

There is also one thing, none of the coins will last forever in our crypto-world. Only a handfull of the current cryptos will be alive next year. There are so many coins out there which started out with great innovations but ultimately died out in a few months.
But with a real working anon feature with the hope of further improvement, this coin could last more than the others if the next 2 stages works as good as the dev promised. So i'm willing to take my risks and keep invested in this coin and wait for further announcements.
if you're worried about the dev dumping the 3.25% premine when the price gets a great value, then you must be really worried about something else too. That at the end of POW there will be more miners and traders who'll be holding much greater portions of XFC. even i myself plan to hold atleast 75K before POW ends. 2 or 3 people will definitely hold atleast 10%. This is the case in every coin out there. In the case of coins with complete POW, 3.25% is a high value because only a portion of coin will be mined every year. But in coins where there is only a short POW, all coins would have been mined in less than a month

[shai_]

hit a block ! finally
(mining this coin with 1 gpu)
and sent it to myself using that coinjoin drug dealers privacy thing

[Splatters]

so is this a point to start and buy, or is going to getting still lower?
I'm interested in this coin, but I dont want get in, while is dumping to much.

[diligent]

anon send doesn't work ,anyone tryed it.

[G K G]

anon send doesn't work ,anyone tryed it.

It works. it'll take 325-375confirmations

[shai_]

so is this a point to start and buy, or is going to getting still lower?
I'm interested in this coin, but I dont want get in, while is dumping to much.

only a guess.. it will go lower. maybe i'm wrong
maybe up, and then crash. and then up again ?
or just up, down and die
multipools have a lot of coins to sell because high blocks reward

i finished with buying coins

only mining what i can, only solo

its a game coin for me and was just sending to myself my coins 'Anonymous'
it seems to work... sometimes slow, sometimes quick
don't have a clue if its scam or not

[shai_]

anon send doesn't work ,anyone tryed it.

It works. it'll take 325-375confirmations

i sent to myself 500 coins block in 1 transaction using anonymous... took 8 confirms
i don't know why it was so quicker

[G K G]

anon send doesn't work ,anyone tryed it.

It works. it'll take 325-375confirmations

i sent to myself 500 coins block in 1 transaction using anonymous... took 8 confirms
i don't know why it was so quicker

i think it depends on the traffic in the coinjoin server. don't know exactly how it works.
hey dev if you're awake care to explain this?