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Author Topic: PRCDice.eu - Largest Dice invest site - Open since 2013! Chat, Play, Invest!  (Read 89090 times)
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July 07, 2014, 01:03:25 AM
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It scares me that apparently Dean didn't even verify that his rolls were evenly distributed.  Generating rolls with the flawed algorithm and just binning by integer should reveal the flawed distribution pretty quickly wouldn't it?

Yes.

That's exactly how I found the issue (binning by roll/10):

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July 07, 2014, 01:07:38 AM
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It scares me that apparently Dean didn't even verify that his rolls were evenly distributed.  Generating rolls with the flawed algorithm and just binning by integer should reveal the flawed distribution pretty quickly wouldn't it?

People tell me my distrust of Microsoft is misplaced. Maybe that's the case.

But for anyone who shares my impression that Microsoft's security leaves something to be desired, it turns out that PRCdice is written in .NET, which I guess means it runs on an MS system.

I wouldn't trust my coins on a Windows machine, and wouldn't recommend others do so either.

But maybe I'm just jaded by years being forced to run Windows at various jobs whereas in fact Microsoft do in fact produce stable secure software after all.

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July 07, 2014, 01:17:09 AM
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Pretty sick, was watching him bet earlier today and thought wow this guy will bring up the profit for sure not knowing that he was playing a +EV game.

Good it has been found out now, altho I guess it would have been found out in a few days maximum as more and more people would use the same system and just betting as fast as they could draining the bankroll.
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July 07, 2014, 03:57:56 AM
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Hmmmmm. Will he compensate us? Not likely but I'd like to see something favorable for his heaviest betters at the very least to keep them coming back otherwise he is fucked!
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July 07, 2014, 04:00:43 AM
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i mostly play low winning chances (0.99%  - 0.02%) , so i was right about the feeling,that if i switched LO , the loosing streaks were much longer and devastating for me ,as if i would play HI ? or do i get this wrong?


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July 07, 2014, 05:08:14 AM
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any updates when it will be back and running?
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July 07, 2014, 05:11:50 AM
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any updates when it will be back and running?

Hi, I'm just going through and looking at bets that need refunded. It's going to take a bit of time to make sure everything is 100% correct but hopefully not too much longer.
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July 07, 2014, 05:35:51 AM
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any updates when it will be back and running?

Hi, I'm just going through and looking at bets that need refunded. It's going to take a bit of time to make sure everything is 100% correct but hopefully not too much longer.


hi dean!

after finishing your investigation, could you give us a summary of that dice incident prior to this one?

some user mentioned it in the trollbox, saying there was a another flaw some months ago related to some outsourced dice code.

he also emphasized that you personally reimbursed investors, just in case someone feels I'm trying to spread FUD  Wink

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July 07, 2014, 05:49:29 AM
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Give some time to Dean, for sure he will handle the situation.
For short memory guys : http://calvinayre.com/2013/07/19/business/12k-freeroll-bitcoin-betting-site-just-dice/
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July 07, 2014, 07:23:41 AM
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Give some time to Dean, for sure he will handle the situation.
For short memory guys : http://calvinayre.com/2013/07/19/business/12k-freeroll-bitcoin-betting-site-just-dice/
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July 07, 2014, 08:13:35 AM
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Dean indicated on the chat that he's now copied the JD algorithm -- will be back to work soon.

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July 07, 2014, 08:15:31 AM
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Give some time to Dean, for sure he will handle the situation.
For short memory guys : http://calvinayre.com/2013/07/19/business/12k-freeroll-bitcoin-betting-site-just-dice/
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Very true. It took me several days to figure out how to handle that situation, and that was a lot more clear cut than this case.

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July 07, 2014, 08:17:13 AM
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Dean indicated on the chat that he's now copied the JD algorithm -- will be back to work soon.

I'll have my people talk to his people about licensing that algorithm. I've been looking for a new income stream of late. Wink

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July 07, 2014, 08:31:16 AM
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Dean indicated on the chat that he's now copied the JD algorithm -- will be back to work soon.

I'll have my people talk to his people about licensing that algorithm. I've been looking for a new income stream of late. Wink

Why don't you sell JD then? Didn't you have offers for it in the past? Or relaunch it from a tropical island?


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July 07, 2014, 08:33:12 AM
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I'll have my people talk to his people about licensing that algorithm. I've been looking for a new income stream of late. Wink

Why don't you sell JD then? Didn't you have offers for it in the past? Or relaunch it from a tropical island?

I'm just kidding. The JD algorithm is in the public domain.

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July 07, 2014, 11:05:05 AM
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Update:
I'm working on getting things back to normal and betting available asap.
The flaw in the provably fair code has been fixed.
Investors will be refunded the losses from past 24 hours.
All players who may have lost in error due to the flaw will be refunded also.

This is going to take a bit of time to make sure all balances/investments are as they should be.
Estimated to have dice betting available and refunds issued within the next 6 hours.

I'll post a more detailed report after that too.




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July 07, 2014, 11:25:26 AM
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its nice that i can see teamwork and a progress.
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July 07, 2014, 03:50:34 PM
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Site is currently offline while I do an update to restore player balances.
Back up asap.
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July 07, 2014, 06:29:16 PM
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Any updates Dean?
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July 07, 2014, 06:31:59 PM
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Any updates Dean?

Was just away to post.
Should be back up soon. Just refunds taking some time as I need to make sure that all investment histories (investing/divesting) are as they should be at the time of each and every bet.
I would hope no more than another hour
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