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[sly5am]

Dead coin.

You are an idiot.

rather be an idiot than a nerfherder?? LOL

Before Alderaan was destroyed, a Nerf Herder was a high paying job.  Now I have to smuggle spices through Imperial space.

But, at least you admitted you were an idiot. 

LOL after that.. you have about 5 levels to rise before you even become an idiot.  now ba bye.

[n3rfherder]

Dead coin.

You are an idiot.

rather be an idiot than a nerfherder?? LOL

Before Alderaan was destroyed, a Nerf Herder was a high paying job.  Now I have to smuggle spices through Imperial space.

But, at least you admitted you were an idiot.  

LOL after that.. you have about 5 levels to rise before you even become an idiot.  now ba bye.

I can see that you don't understand humor and are too dumb to realize what is going on right now.

5 levels to rise?  Insult me in your native language so I can understand what you are saying.

[hnlzb2010]

we are contacting to the biggest porn sites and porn tubes on the net, to accept it as a payment.

which porn sites??

[raskul]

please note the part which says

"You will get the bounty right after launch..."

still waiting, dev.

here is the address to send it to, do it now

XKMRFPLqM5jxXGBQEZ7TVZotUve4UHpNTZ

all this talk of splitting the premine, bribing exchanges and appointing community managers makes you look like a stinking scammer who merely wants to share the coin between his friends.

No, stop backtracking and pay your bounties.

[coinmasters]

Waiting for bittrex for exchange

[gloryninja]

I hope i didn't mine for no reason.  I hate all this hiding and dishonesty bullshit.

[husky1971]

I hope i didn't mine for no reason.  I hate all this hiding and dishonesty bullshit.

Yes hope is good, me also
which website is xxx coin . (xxxcoin,com and xxxcoin.org not availible)
which pornsite is intrested in xxx coin

[raskul]

I hope i didn't mine for no reason.  I hate all this hiding and dishonesty bullshit.

it seems to be all too commonplace these days.
1. Anonymous dev launches a coin with a massive premine
2. Anonymous dev offers bounties - to be paid at launch
3. Anonymous dev backtracks on bounties and with-holds permine
4. Anonymous dev does backdoor deals with exchanges
5. Anonymous dev dumps the entire premine on first exchange possible.

1+2+3+4+5 = coin dead.

we need to put pressure on the developer to let us know;

1. what merchants he has on board (this coin should never have been launched without prior market interest)
2. when the bounties will be paid
3. premine escrow address (dev assured the pre-mine would go into escrow)

however, he's the usual scrypt;

"We have given x-person the premine to hold as escrow"

wait 48 hours...

"x-person has done a runner with the premine"



 
Until all bounties are paid, I'd advise any exchange looking at this to be very wary.

[n3rfherder]

I hope i didn't mine for no reason.  I hate all this hiding and dishonesty bullshit.

it seems to be all too commonplace these days.
1. Anonymous dev launches a coin with a massive premine
2. Anonymous dev offers bounties - to be paid at launch
3. Anonymous dev backtracks on bounties and with-holds permine
4. Anonymous dev does backdoor deals with exchanges
5. Anonymous dev dumps the entire premine on first exchange possible.

1+2+3+4+5 = coin dead.

we need to put pressure on the developer to let us know;

1. what merchants he has on board (this coin should never have been launched without prior market interest)
2. when the bounties will be paid
3. premine escrow address (dev assured the pre-mine would go into escrow)

however, he's the usual scrypt;

"We have given x-person the premine to hold as escrow"

wait 48 hours...

"x-person has done a runner with the premine"



 
Until all bounties are paid, I'd advise any exchange looking at this to be very wary.

I advise exchanges to take free money so people can buy/trade the coin.  Even if dev dumps that doesn't justify restricting miners and potential investors from having the opportunity to do as they please on an open trading platform.

This idea of encouraging exchanges to not list a coin for certain reasons does nothing but lose the exchange money, lose the investor money, lose the miner money and stops ANY/ALL potential for growth.

I know you mean well, but this approach seems like it helps no one.

1 penny is worth more than zero pennies.

[raskul]

I hope i didn't mine for no reason.  I hate all this hiding and dishonesty bullshit.

it seems to be all too commonplace these days.
1. Anonymous dev launches a coin with a massive premine
2. Anonymous dev offers bounties - to be paid at launch
3. Anonymous dev backtracks on bounties and with-holds permine
4. Anonymous dev does backdoor deals with exchanges
5. Anonymous dev dumps the entire premine on first exchange possible.

1+2+3+4+5 = coin dead.

we need to put pressure on the developer to let us know;

1. what merchants he has on board (this coin should never have been launched without prior market interest)
2. when the bounties will be paid
3. premine escrow address (dev assured the pre-mine would go into escrow)

however, he's the usual scrypt;

"We have given x-person the premine to hold as escrow"

wait 48 hours...

"x-person has done a runner with the premine"



 
Until all bounties are paid, I'd advise any exchange looking at this to be very wary.

I advise exchanges to take free money so people can buy/trade the coin.  Even if dev dumps that doesn't justify restricting miners and potential investors from having the opportunity to do as they please on an open trading platform.

This idea of encouraging exchanges to not list a coin for certain reasons does nothing but lose the exchange money, lose the investor money, lose the miner money and stops ANY/ALL potential for growth.

I know you mean well, but this approach seems like it helps no one.

1 penny is worth more than zero pennies.

so what you are saying here, is let you dump your mined coins before the coin dies?
And thus, the blame for this dead coin can be laid to the exchange who listed it, allowing the dev to dump his premine.

yeah, sensible 

[james42]

Did anybody mine this coin without intending to dump it at the first available opportunity?

[raskul]

Did anybody mine this coin without intending to dump it at the first available opportunity?

good point. 
lets make that more generic... does anyone mine ANY new launched coin without the intent of dumping at the first available opportunity?

[n3rfherder]

I hope i didn't mine for no reason.  I hate all this hiding and dishonesty bullshit.

it seems to be all too commonplace these days.
1. Anonymous dev launches a coin with a massive premine
2. Anonymous dev offers bounties - to be paid at launch
3. Anonymous dev backtracks on bounties and with-holds permine
4. Anonymous dev does backdoor deals with exchanges
5. Anonymous dev dumps the entire premine on first exchange possible.

1+2+3+4+5 = coin dead.

we need to put pressure on the developer to let us know;

1. what merchants he has on board (this coin should never have been launched without prior market interest)
2. when the bounties will be paid
3. premine escrow address (dev assured the pre-mine would go into escrow)

however, he's the usual scrypt;

"We have given x-person the premine to hold as escrow"

wait 48 hours...

"x-person has done a runner with the premine"



 
Until all bounties are paid, I'd advise any exchange looking at this to be very wary.

I advise exchanges to take free money so people can buy/trade the coin.  Even if dev dumps that doesn't justify restricting miners and potential investors from having the opportunity to do as they please on an open trading platform.

This idea of encouraging exchanges to not list a coin for certain reasons does nothing but lose the exchange money, lose the investor money, lose the miner money and stops ANY/ALL potential for growth.

I know you mean well, but this approach seems like it helps no one.

1 penny is worth more than zero pennies.

so what you are saying here, is let you dump your mined coins before the coin dies?
And thus, the blame for this dead coin can be laid to the exchange who listed it, allowing the dev to dump his premine.

yeah, sensible 

Why would anyone blame an exchange because people decide to dump?  That makes zero sense.  Seriously, have you ever heard "wow I can't believe bittrex allowed that dev to sell his coins!"...never.  Why is an exchange responsible for anything except providing a platform for trade?

My point was, a dead coin without an exchange helped NO ONE.

It's similar to punishing a whole class of kids because one kid was bad.

Don't you run a pool?  It hurts you too, right?

[raskul]

I hope i didn't mine for no reason.  I hate all this hiding and dishonesty bullshit.

it seems to be all too commonplace these days.
1. Anonymous dev launches a coin with a massive premine
2. Anonymous dev offers bounties - to be paid at launch
3. Anonymous dev backtracks on bounties and with-holds permine
4. Anonymous dev does backdoor deals with exchanges
5. Anonymous dev dumps the entire premine on first exchange possible.

1+2+3+4+5 = coin dead.

we need to put pressure on the developer to let us know;

1. what merchants he has on board (this coin should never have been launched without prior market interest)
2. when the bounties will be paid
3. premine escrow address (dev assured the pre-mine would go into escrow)

however, he's the usual scrypt;

"We have given x-person the premine to hold as escrow"

wait 48 hours...

"x-person has done a runner with the premine"



 
Until all bounties are paid, I'd advise any exchange looking at this to be very wary.

I advise exchanges to take free money so people can buy/trade the coin.  Even if dev dumps that doesn't justify restricting miners and potential investors from having the opportunity to do as they please on an open trading platform.

This idea of encouraging exchanges to not list a coin for certain reasons does nothing but lose the exchange money, lose the investor money, lose the miner money and stops ANY/ALL potential for growth.

I know you mean well, but this approach seems like it helps no one.

1 penny is worth more than zero pennies.

so what you are saying here, is let you dump your mined coins before the coin dies?
And thus, the blame for this dead coin can be laid to the exchange who listed it, allowing the dev to dump his premine.

yeah, sensible  

Why would anyone blame an exchange because people decide to dump?  That makes zero sense.  Seriously, have you ever heard "wow I can't believe bittrex allowed that dev to sell his coins!"...never.  Why is an exchange responsible for anything except providing a platform for trade?

My point was, a dead coin without an exchange helped NO ONE.

It's similar to punishing a whole class of kids because one kid was bad.

Don't you run a pool?  It hurts you too, right?

It's a matter of ethics for exchanges to ensure that the purpose of adding a coin to their markets is not for the sole purpose of the premine being dumped, because when this happens, it's the premine dump which dictates the price at 1satoshi, and the entire community is therefore affected by this.

If the coin purpose is true and the developer has merchants on board, then it needs no exchange. A good XXXCoin website with a p2p trade function is all the coin needs and it will be the merchants who dictate the prices, as opposed to spotty teenagers with parents credit card details.

keep it off exchanges until the developer shows transparency and can be proved to be above board.

[n3rfherder]

I hope i didn't mine for no reason.  I hate all this hiding and dishonesty bullshit.

it seems to be all too commonplace these days.
1. Anonymous dev launches a coin with a massive premine
2. Anonymous dev offers bounties - to be paid at launch
3. Anonymous dev backtracks on bounties and with-holds permine
4. Anonymous dev does backdoor deals with exchanges
5. Anonymous dev dumps the entire premine on first exchange possible.

1+2+3+4+5 = coin dead.

we need to put pressure on the developer to let us know;

1. what merchants he has on board (this coin should never have been launched without prior market interest)
2. when the bounties will be paid
3. premine escrow address (dev assured the pre-mine would go into escrow)

however, he's the usual scrypt;

"We have given x-person the premine to hold as escrow"

wait 48 hours...

"x-person has done a runner with the premine"



 
Until all bounties are paid, I'd advise any exchange looking at this to be very wary.

I advise exchanges to take free money so people can buy/trade the coin.  Even if dev dumps that doesn't justify restricting miners and potential investors from having the opportunity to do as they please on an open trading platform.

This idea of encouraging exchanges to not list a coin for certain reasons does nothing but lose the exchange money, lose the investor money, lose the miner money and stops ANY/ALL potential for growth.

I know you mean well, but this approach seems like it helps no one.

1 penny is worth more than zero pennies.

so what you are saying here, is let you dump your mined coins before the coin dies?
And thus, the blame for this dead coin can be laid to the exchange who listed it, allowing the dev to dump his premine.

yeah, sensible  

Why would anyone blame an exchange because people decide to dump?  That makes zero sense.  Seriously, have you ever heard "wow I can't believe bittrex allowed that dev to sell his coins!"...never.  Why is an exchange responsible for anything except providing a platform for trade?

My point was, a dead coin without an exchange helped NO ONE.

It's similar to punishing a whole class of kids because one kid was bad.

Don't you run a pool?  It hurts you too, right?

It's a matter of ethics for exchanges to ensure that the purpose of adding a coin to their markets is not for the sole purpose of the premine being dumped, because when this happens, it's the premine dump which dictates the price at 1satoshi, and the entire community is therefore affected by this.

If the coin purpose is true and the developer has merchants on board, then it needs no exchange. A good XXXCoin website with a p2p trade function is all the coin needs and it will be the merchants who dictate the prices, as opposed to spotty teenagers with parents credit card details.

keep it off exchanges until the developer shows transparency and can be proved to be above board.

Well I can understand your point about ethics.  Let's be real though, there isn't much ethics behind most coins that get listed anywhere.  

To your second point about merchants.  I am quite sure the merchant needs to be able to transfer their coins into USD/BTC somehow.  Isn't some sort of exchange involved at that point?  Or is there another way to do so?

Either way...all I was saying is that 1 satoshi is better than 0 satoshi.

Btw you seemed like you really care and are polite as well.  Tone is hard to detect in text, so don't take what I say as combative.

Cheers.

[techsolution]

I hope i didn't mine for no reason.  I hate all this hiding and dishonesty bullshit.

it seems to be all too commonplace these days.
1. Anonymous dev launches a coin with a massive premine
2. Anonymous dev offers bounties - to be paid at launch
3. Anonymous dev backtracks on bounties and with-holds permine
4. Anonymous dev does backdoor deals with exchanges
5. Anonymous dev dumps the entire premine on first exchange possible.

1+2+3+4+5 = coin dead.

we need to put pressure on the developer to let us know;

1. what merchants he has on board (this coin should never have been launched without prior market interest)
2. when the bounties will be paid
3. premine escrow address (dev assured the pre-mine would go into escrow)

however, he's the usual scrypt;

"We have given x-person the premine to hold as escrow"

wait 48 hours...

"x-person has done a runner with the premine"



 
Until all bounties are paid, I'd advise any exchange looking at this to be very wary.

why did u have so low hashing on your pool?

[raskul]

I hope i didn't mine for no reason.  I hate all this hiding and dishonesty bullshit.

it seems to be all too commonplace these days.
1. Anonymous dev launches a coin with a massive premine
2. Anonymous dev offers bounties - to be paid at launch
3. Anonymous dev backtracks on bounties and with-holds permine
4. Anonymous dev does backdoor deals with exchanges
5. Anonymous dev dumps the entire premine on first exchange possible.

1+2+3+4+5 = coin dead.

we need to put pressure on the developer to let us know;

1. what merchants he has on board (this coin should never have been launched without prior market interest)
2. when the bounties will be paid
3. premine escrow address (dev assured the pre-mine would go into escrow)

however, he's the usual scrypt;

"We have given x-person the premine to hold as escrow"

wait 48 hours...

"x-person has done a runner with the premine"



 
Until all bounties are paid, I'd advise any exchange looking at this to be very wary.

I advise exchanges to take free money so people can buy/trade the coin.  Even if dev dumps that doesn't justify restricting miners and potential investors from having the opportunity to do as they please on an open trading platform.

This idea of encouraging exchanges to not list a coin for certain reasons does nothing but lose the exchange money, lose the investor money, lose the miner money and stops ANY/ALL potential for growth.

I know you mean well, but this approach seems like it helps no one.

1 penny is worth more than zero pennies.

so what you are saying here, is let you dump your mined coins before the coin dies?
And thus, the blame for this dead coin can be laid to the exchange who listed it, allowing the dev to dump his premine.

yeah, sensible  

Why would anyone blame an exchange because people decide to dump?  That makes zero sense.  Seriously, have you ever heard "wow I can't believe bittrex allowed that dev to sell his coins!"...never.  Why is an exchange responsible for anything except providing a platform for trade?

My point was, a dead coin without an exchange helped NO ONE.

It's similar to punishing a whole class of kids because one kid was bad.

Don't you run a pool?  It hurts you too, right?

It's a matter of ethics for exchanges to ensure that the purpose of adding a coin to their markets is not for the sole purpose of the premine being dumped, because when this happens, it's the premine dump which dictates the price at 1satoshi, and the entire community is therefore affected by this.

If the coin purpose is true and the developer has merchants on board, then it needs no exchange. A good XXXCoin website with a p2p trade function is all the coin needs and it will be the merchants who dictate the prices, as opposed to spotty teenagers with parents credit card details.

keep it off exchanges until the developer shows transparency and can be proved to be above board.

Well I can understand your point about ethics.  Let's be real though, there isn't much ethics behind most coins that get listed anywhere.  

To your second point about merchants.  I am quite sure the merchant needs to be able to transfer their coins into USD/BTC somehow.  Isn't some sort of exchange involved at that point?  Or is there another way to do so?

Either way...all I was saying is that 1 satoshi is better than 0 satoshi.

Btw you seemed like you really care and are polite as well.  Tone is hard to detect in text, so don't take what I say as combative.

Cheers.

Of course, I feel it's beneficial to talk about these things, and my whole concern is based on the fact that this coin has the potential to be used for the purposes that the dev has remarked - I wouldn't have offered up a pool if I thought it didn't have some future - it's not my way.

[raskul]

I hope i didn't mine for no reason.  I hate all this hiding and dishonesty bullshit.

it seems to be all too commonplace these days.
1. Anonymous dev launches a coin with a massive premine
2. Anonymous dev offers bounties - to be paid at launch
3. Anonymous dev backtracks on bounties and with-holds permine
4. Anonymous dev does backdoor deals with exchanges
5. Anonymous dev dumps the entire premine on first exchange possible.

1+2+3+4+5 = coin dead.

we need to put pressure on the developer to let us know;

1. what merchants he has on board (this coin should never have been launched without prior market interest)
2. when the bounties will be paid
3. premine escrow address (dev assured the pre-mine would go into escrow)

however, he's the usual scrypt;

"We have given x-person the premine to hold as escrow"

wait 48 hours...

"x-person has done a runner with the premine"



 
Until all bounties are paid, I'd advise any exchange looking at this to be very wary.

why did u have so low hashing on your pool?

I'd have thought that would be obvious; miners are free to choose where they mine. With 0.5% fees, i'm not doing this for profit, it's a service to benefit a coin which I seen to have potential. It makes no difference to me if we have 1MH/s or 100MH/s mining at centralcavern.

[techsolution]

raskul,
you own pool, you know how hard is to get miners if there is many pools around, think how hard is start and go with coin into maket if there is hundred coins, u want any coin go to the moon in 2 days? impossible, maybe possible if coin is pump and dump, but moon is only for a moment then:)

if u see potential in XXX then just wait 1 maybe 2 days for bounty, after coin will be managed, otherway i think u want bounty rushly to dump it:)